This is an odd statement, if you like them you would want more and different games, which doesnt happen if nothing actually breaks through.

This is an odd example because its one franchise and a frnchise were most of the players dont think of it as a Jrpg, and also usually dont play other Jrpgs. In fact, this helps my argument that ithere are few exceptions and nobody else gets anywhere. What other, over here, games in the genre touch pokemon. How many sold over 1 million units, not many, in fact, very very few.

But when were Jrpgs cool, and I ssk this because when FF7 came out only Squasre games were cool. Some interest in other big sales exceptions, occurred, though few, and then it just stopped after that and almost always became exclusive to Square, then becoming SE.

What were the coll Jrpgs in even decent mainstream circles, it was all Square all the time, and maybe 3 exceptions. I mean HD wont help them if they al have the same issues then they did before, I agree with you that HD and all was a part of the problem for output but what about breaking out of the barriar to success, that didnt change even with the ones we got.

Granted a lot of the early 36o and ps3 jrpgs tried some different strategies, but both failed at that.

3DO, despite straight up false info, its region free, large game library filled with best versions and exclusives is so underrated Im afraid the damage is permanent by the idiots and the youtube reviewrs, who only talked about 3 games that were nitpicked to be bad.

As the years go by the 3DO dev community is vanishing, the fans ,and the emulation guys are still around. But man, 3DO is going to become what the CDi was outside of Europe. What gets me is while not really bad, the Jaguar is getting more coverage instead, I dont even.

Oh and I guess the Dreamcast was alright, still not really too good woith a questionable library, but it has some worth. Of course its slowly being shadowed by the fact its games are slowly becoming ported or shared, and usually better, on other systems.

Just in time for the 4th republican national debate.

Are you going to address my post. I have no idea why based on this post you think persona and DragonQuest will do good things for the western market but very well.

Oh hey, theres a similar thread on neogaf to, looks like I wasnt the only one thinking this, I play them a lot but its starting to become repetitive. Which is why I made this thread, if they can break the repetition, then they can well, get the genre to be big outside a few franchises.

Dr3 sold over a million coies and was considered a cuccess. Titanfall is a multi million seller and as of now is still the best selling Xbox exclusive, and still selling. Ryse was said to have sold well, only reason no Ryse 2 is because of the buyout. Also directly said by them.

Also we dont know Forza 6 sales so uh ok.. And why are you saying Halo 5 will flop in sales when that is impossible, I mean come on.

But you know, the best selling The Order 1886 and oh wait...

@charizard1605: The Wii U being BC with a system with a horrible rep isnt the best way of trying to say they did something right. Its not important at all. Its why no one cares. Hence, the sales.

@charizard1605: Im sorry they were never a major genre over here. FF7 was a Square Enix gate not a Jrpg gate. This is why so many such as yourself are longing for days that never existed without realizing why they failed.

With that said, they are at least not as relevant as they were, especially with output, however of your list only one game could fix the issue. The other 2 are the prime examples of what I said before, they wont do anything to shake things up and they arent popular.

Its a question Ive had on my mind. i went back to think for a second, jrpgs were nothing in the US, or rather, west in general with some decent hits.

FF7 is credited for making Jrpgs big but this is why people are confused about the state of Jrpgs the last decade and the decrease half a decade before that. Its flase.

FF7 did nothing but give Square some leverage, and mostly only Square, outside of that, and some associates who got a temp sales boost, we got the same poor sales, arguably worse going forward, and the same occasional big hit. Symphonia is not going to happen again, especially in the firection a lot of Jrpgs are going to, which is odd because by now you would think devs would see the money they are throwing in the garbage by going for the Love Hina Neptunia audience most of them have been going for all these years.

Hers an interesting take, excluding all Square games, Mortal Kombat 1, 2, and 3, regular 3, along with Street Fighter 2 SNES and Super Street Fighter 2 SNES, along with ClayFighter 1 and 2, that is 7 games in the fighting genre, not even all the games in some of the series released in the same time period, Outsold all the Jrpgs on the psx, and guess what, also the ps2. If you exclude Symphonia.

This genre was never anything but niche, and until guys realize that I dont think Jrpgs wil not only fail to evolve, but also never become a genre.

Its the only genre I can think of that wasnt a major Genre off the top of my head. At least outside Japan. Even on handhelds, its the same thing, the main big wig there is pokemon, which tio many isnt seen as a Jrpg, and guys who usually play pokemon dont play other Jrpgs.

If only there was some dev willing to cause a shake u with a successful Jrpg removing the issues they currently have.