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@lonesamurai1 @u1tradt Which is exactly why it's all relative. These consoles will not be competing with PCs. They're competing with each other. So the only way to judge their specs is against each other. PC specs are irrelevant here for reasons that should be obvious to everyone by now.

And it doesn't matter where the CPU market goes from here. x86 is pretty much set in stone so there's no chance of these consoles holding back PC gaming this gen.

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@Reuwsaat It's not a ploy to match PS4 at all. They were always going to tweak as much as possible before they enter mass production. That's how product design works no matter what company.

In the end they kept their GPU power at about 2/3 of the PS4 (despite the small increase in clock speed) and this overclock means the CPU is at least 175 MHz higher than the PS4's.

They were pretty evenly matched overall to begin with and this doesn't change much.

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@lonesamurai1 A fellow names Einstein once said that everything is relative.

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@Random_Matt @peeessfore @u1tradt Considering you can buy a Gelid Tranquilo for £25 today and that it will keep intel i7s below 50C under load while staying near silent, I think it's fair to assume cooling will not be an issue.

With today's technology you would have to TRY to actually mess up your cooling capabilities. With cooling tech as it is now the lowest common denominator tends to be perfectly adequate. Whereas 7 years ago the lowest common denominator ended up in the 360 and we saw what happened there.

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@peeessfore @u1tradt And it only took 2273 comments.

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@Cristian Angelo Pridon No.

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Pretty sure this doesn't affect the heat much. APUs are super cool in the first place compared to flagship CPUs and this is a below entry-level APU as well. The leeway was there considering the clock speed of the GPU and the size of the chassis compounded by the fact that there won't be an internal power supply.

If you're going to worry about heat dissipation at all then the PS4 represents the bigger risk in that department considering the GPU clock rate, size of the chassis and the internal power supply.

But even then there's nothing to worry about. Judging by the specs I imagine the PS4 will get a lot hotter than X1 under load but not to the point of system failure. Not with those components.

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@Rotondi @u1tradt The guy pitched his own concept of 3D gaming to Nintendo years ago and they refused his pitch. But then they come out with 3D gaming on their own anyway which doesn't actually use the guy's specific technologies. So they ended up owing the guy about $30m. The articles don't state on what basis they owe him money but I'd venture to say it was lawful contractual obligations, which is a bit of a grey area.

If it was an issue of patents then Nintendo would owe the guy far more than $30m considering they've made billions of dollars from 3DS sales. They would also have to pay royalties (which they don't as well).

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@Rotondi They only had to pay the guy a settlement. It was initially $30m and later got reduced (can't remember what the final figure was). They don't need to pay the guy anything else (the issue wasn't about patents).

Estimates so far put the 3DS at well over 30m units sold. So less than a dollar for every unit sold - which is less than 0.5% of total revenue for 3DS - barely affects Nintendo financially. Not to mention they're sitting on roughly $15 billion in assets.

So you can rest assured that lawsuit didn't have diddly squat to do with the release of the 2DS.