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@sebb said:

@jillians: they are too stupid to realise they are training their audience to not invest in watching anything. Which will eventually lead to all shows being cancelled and them earning nothing.

Yep. They might not have to pay for the last 2-5 seasons, but they also won't have billions of streaming hours for those shows later on. Even if you just go an extra season and complete the story, you've got something you don't have to produce/pay for anymore but that people might watch for the next three decades.

I don't even start 2-season shows. There's no point. Which is sad because some of them, like Russian Doll, should have gone on at least 4 seasons and could have gone on longer than that. Instead of investing in those extra seasons, they let them die forever.

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@ZombieVirolina: Did you know that some people who grew up in the 80s are still alive and watching TV?

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@fenriz275 said:

There are too many shows getting the greenlight these days and the quality of most of them is not up to par. Evil is the only on this list I've watched and it's been declining in quality since season 1. I don't know if I'll bother to watch season 4.

Creator attention span and viewer attention span has dropped to goldfish. Which is a shame. There are a whole lot of promising plots/characters on this page completely wasted.

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@Ayato_Kamina_1: They're making a mistake - long-run - by doing this. A lot of people when they go to stream a show will look at the number of seasons available. If it's less than 3 seasons, it's not worth streaming. A 1-2 season show is just asking to for heartbreak. Even if you like it, it just ends (Russian Doll is a good example).

Some of these shows would have weathered a slow start or bad sophomore season and come back strong in later seasons, making it streamable later on. So short-term, they might save on production costs, but they've got a dud forever when they don't see it through or go at least 3 seasons. Suits is a good example of this. It was never a top 10 show in its original run, but people stream the shit out of it.

I'd see completing at least 3-4 seasons a show even in the marginal range as a worthwhile investment long term. You never know when its format or subject matter might make it popular later on.

But that won't ever happen because $$$.

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@faithxvoid: Right, there would be legions of content online, another South Park episode, and tons of merchandise would be rolling out for it again. I remember back when it was at its biggest. It wasn't just a headline on gaming sites, it was everywhere.

And even with BFA, I could find LFR and mythic+ dungeons at any hour of the day or night. By the second month of Dragonflight, it was a ghost town except at the top of the week. I haven't played it for over a year, though, so maybe numbers picked up some, but I would be surprised if it did.

The only thing I can think of is that with the recent onslaught of AI programs, maybe bots are inflating the count or Microsoft is flat out lying. The government should have reigned in Microsoft 20 years ago, but if it wasn't then, it's never. They all pretty much have free reign to strip personal data down for profit and do whatever they want now.

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@jenovaschilld: I've loved WOW since it came out, but I stopped at Dragonflight. It was pathetic. And you could see posts in the forums go down, too. I'm sure a few million Twitchers and YouTubers get accounts and bots keep it going, but the last time I played, it was sad. Even with BFA I could get into a dungeon or raid at 4 AM. In Dragonflight, it was a ghosttown, there were literally times I couldn't get into a dungeon at noon. No one was even bothering.

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@alledragonfyre: WOW has support? Well damn, that's new, when did that start?

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@ticktockman1979: You really think after all these years of Microsoft getting away with murder they're worried about a little FCC violation? lol Does the FCC even still function anymore?

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@cameronk845: it's 100% clear. WoW is not online in China and hasn't been for years.

it did not have 12 million 'subs'. It's a well establish misnomer because China didn't have subs. I've seen estimates of 4 million Chinese players.

That puts us back at my 8 million subs at peak number. A peak that saw every celebrity doing commercials, Southpark episodes, and normie doing leeroy memes.

But it's only down 1 mil since that?

Gotta be crazy or the other one to believe 7 million paying subs today.

Even MMO sites don't cover wow much. Look at the page views for wow head. More players are playing but less are looking for strats?

Just more Microsoft lying because they can. The last time I played the expansion was only a couple months in, and most of the week it was a ghosttown. I was sometimes the only person playing in any given area. They're just lying. Right, and it has abysmal aggregate ratings. People don't pay for games they didn't like.

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@cameronk845: Microsoft executives must laugh so hard at night when people believe their bullshit. Except for twitchers and YouTubers probably buying subscriptions to keep their businesses going, the place is a ghosttown. The last time I played Dragonflight there were massive areas early in the game where it felt more like Everquest. No one was there. Even in capital cities most of the week, no one was there. It's not hard to see when someone is playing a game like that. They're in the world. With Dragonflight, it's usually one day a week when there's anyone there, and other areas of the game are abandoned. It was the first expansion I've ever played where I had trouble getting into early raids/dungeons because no one was online to play.