You know what? This is really starting to remind me of the Saturn days. Only Sony was actually convincing devs not to dev on the Saturn at all. It was looked at as a deving nightmare due to its "Duel Core Styled" technology and "Lack of Tech Support" which really translated into shoddy ports if it got one at all. Most if not all the multiplats shared by the saturn and the PSX sold more on the Sony machine which just adding more fuel to the flame.

The same can be applied today. The reason Sony is in the pickle that they are in right now is a combination of 4 things.

1. Price - Self Explanatory

2. Dev Environment - The Cell architecture which takes alot of time and money to take advantage of in a time where dev costs are going through the roof.

3. Brand Name Recognition - Relying on the "Playstation" name to instantly propel them to the top spot from the jump.

Last but not least........drum roll please......................

4. Gross underestimation of the Competition - No one on God's green earth can defend this one. Sony clearly underestimated MS and the Ninty BIG TIME. This kinda ties in with number 3 but takes on a life of its own when studied. All they saw was a 100 million+ PS2 userbase that they thought they had eating out of their hands so what do they do? Totally ignore MS and Ninty's strategies until reality started setting in. And it started setting in pretty early for Sony.

They never imagined that the Wii would be doing the hardware numbers that it is currently doing all because of its architecture and the fact that it's by Nintendo. Then they look on over to MS who not only started to snag what once were PS only games but now these shared games are starting to appeal better visually on the 360. Not to mention sell more units. Who in their right mind would have thought that Madden 360 would have outsold the PS3 and PS2 versions? That right there is the tell tale mark of where things are headed.

Sony's only hope now is that the $400 model appeals to enough people between now and the time top tier 3rd party games like MGS4 is supposed to launch or you might wake up to read some disturbing news. This holiday season is CRUCIAL for Sony. Let me repeat that....this holiday season is CRUCIAL for Sony.

Devs and investors alike are going to be watching PS3's hardware performance like a hawk from Oct-Dec. and if things don't look promising (500k - Up/month) for the rest of the year in the NPDs, well let's just say there may be some new years resolutions taking place that could leave the Sony's beloved hype machine high and dry. sinseers

great post i cant wait to see how things turn out, this holiday season is def gonna play a big role

ive played kameo and viva pinata and i loved both of them especially viva pinata was a great game so dont compare beautiful katamari to it.

if u played one katamari game u played them all its just the same garbage. yea sure it was fun and quirky the first time on my ps2 but now its just boring. hell even the review said its like basically the same thing with small graphics update

and i love how ppl keep saying 360 has no good variety in games yet the ps3 has like no good games period. every month is the same excuses with cows when npd comes out they say ps3 isnt selling that bad cause no good software came out and they critizise 360 saying it should of sold better cause good games came out. if it has such great games why dont u buy it, ffs i dont know why ppl have brand loyalty just look at the games and buy whichever console plays them

so its actually shipping on time not early considering it was pushed back a week then just brought back a week

anyway looks great cant wait to play it

This game very well might be the sleeper hit. That being said I will wait for the Gamespot review before I get the game.

On another note, it is funny to notice that the lemmings always point out to IGN reviews when a PS3 game flops. However, when it does manage to get a great score - "Only Gamespot counts!". We all know GS scores count in SW but at least stop with the double standards :roll:

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the reason they do that is because most of the time gamespot usually givves the game the a lower score or the same thing.

so if it flops on ign it will most likely flop on gs. and since the ign reveiw comes out first its somewhat expected. when its a score like 9.0 its close to call so they still wait for gs score. all fandboys do the same so i dunno why u guys are complaining.

[QUOTE="Miles0T0Prower"]to bad their Bizzares last game before activision kills the qualityMasterTony

Microsoft owns the rights to PGR...i'm willing to betTurn10 will take over

turn 10 will just ruin it i hope ms doesnt leave it to them

altho bizarre will prob create a new racing ip and since it will be published by activision will probably go multiplatform

Dont listen to all the ppl that say u will regret selling the ps3 later

honestly i dont know how u can regret playing great games NOW

as for the ps3 maybe it will pick up in the future but the way i see it by then it will be cheaper and u can always pick one up once it has a better established library and has a price range of 200-300

umm actually the best selling xbox 360 sku is the premium which is 400 and if sony lowers the price by 100 so would ms, and we are back to square one

[QUOTE="skyvader"]Do these devs take marketing classes or what? The first part was basically restating the obvious that the ps3 comes with the hdd. With that in mind, this game can be done on the 360 because of...guess what...it too has a hdd. So f***ing what that it doesnt come in every box. It does come in every "premium" and "elite" box though. These guys are part of sony so (again with the obvious) they will say their sony backed game can't be done on any other platform. Sheesh!leejohnson7

Like MS would care but here goes anyway.

Imagine some parent buys a 360 core and a game that requires a HDD. You know the rest.

oh pls that doesnt mean the game cant be done on the system, i guess demos, downloadable content and all the other stuff found on xbl marketplace also cant be done for the 360 aswell conssidering the core doesnt have an hdd. oh wait it is on the 360....durrrr