Ok I'll point things out then if I must.

You started off by saying you were setting 'fanboyism' aside and using facts to make your argument. Then you went ahead and made some stamements which were foundated on your own opinions and predictions.  What you find fun, and your statements of the success of a game that hasen't been released yet are not facts. Sure you can say "well there's a lot of hype behind ____ and the prequel or _____ sold millions." That doesn't make any of your "LMAO! SONY WILL KILL 360 CAUSE IT HAS THESE GAMEZZZ" a fact. What you used were biased predictions.

"Without Halo, the xbox would be a total flop" Is this a fact? Do you have Microsoft's figures and income reports over the past 7 years? Did you crunch the numbers and determine that the software sales of Halo and Halo 2 were the only reason that Microsoft made money on this console? Or did you just quickly think of other popular titles, couldn't, and determine that the success and failure of the Xbox console in its entierty was due to Halo? This is not a fact, nor an argument. It is an opinion based off of the dislike of the console and the community.

"Halo is over rated" Well now, how could a game that is over rated be the sole reason that the Xbox was a success? That doesn't make sense. Maybe you don't like Halo, but that doesn't make it over rated. It's not my cup of tea either, I'm not defending it. I played it single player and multiplayer, it was ok. Over rated? Over rating a game would be a game mag giving it a 10.0 no questions asked. I wouldn't say its over rated if it sells millions of copies, as well as it's sequel. I would say it'a very popular game that isnt really what I like playing. Saying it is over rated is ignorant, and close minded.

"The PS3 is going to rape the 360"  That's a fact? No. It's a prediction. Please don't confuse the two.

You mentioned that gamers, real gamers, dont care about graphics that much and want substance. I'd agree with you there. I play more Diablo 2, Final Fantasy Tactics and Xenogears that anything that's come out withing the past 2 years. I like a challenge, I like having to think, I like something a bit less mindless than shooting something because it's moving. But you then need to realize that 'real gamers' are above the bias, above the fanboyism, and take a game for just that. A game. Regardless of its console requirement, it doesn't make it suck. And it doesnt make any certian console suck because game X Y and Z aren't on it. I own most consoles and systems, and play them all frequently. I play what I like, and I play what I enjoy. Why should one console "suck" because you like 3 games for another? Why cant it be equally good? Once you learn to do that, and you take a game for a game, and a console for a console, you can call yourself "a true gamer." Until then, please refrain from giving gamers who are a bit more openminded a bad name.

Edit: Fixed a typo.

LOL all "fanboyism" aside here, but.......

Warkunt

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the PS3 is going to rape the 360 right off the next-gen throne that it's sitting on right now in a few more months. wait and see, Xbox fanboyz. Heavenly Sword, MGS4, GOW3, GT5, Lair, Ratchet and Clank: Tools of Destruction, Killzone, Warhawk, Ninja Gaiden Sigma, Tekken 6, Uncharted, are just SOME of the PS3 exclusives worth mentioning. look into them a bit and weep. and cry some more because Bioshock is going to the PS3 ROFL! and so is Ninja Gaiden. the only incredibily AMAZING fantasy action game on the Xbox is now going to the PS3, LMAO! HAHAHAHA! and to answer the thread question, Sony doesn't need Mario OR Halo. but if i had to choose, i'd choose Halo. it's a lot more fun. :D

Warkunt

 Hmm. Need I say more?

I got over my fanboyism and learned to appreciate titles on their own platforms.

 Try it, you'll like it.

Edit: This isn't a vote for Halo, but seriously, Mario on something other than nintendo? Did you think about this?