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#1 Zeggelaar
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@recloud said:

@zeggelaar: there's a gap of 50 million sales between Xbox one and PS4 and that's mostly because of its exclusives.

Nintendo consoles sell because of its exclusives.

Consoles need exclusives to have an identity of their own.

When you think Nintendo, you think of Mario, Zelda and Pokemon.

When you think Sony, you think of uncharted, the last of us and God of War.

When you think Xbox, you used to think Halo and Gears of War.

This is what exclusives are about.

https://www.dsogaming.com/news/pc-games-sales-in-2017-are-almost-as-big-all-console-sales-combined/

That is a massive disparity, imagine even a 1/4 of those players are PC only, Sony is literally losing money to the PC only crowd, they can forgo the X1X if they really want because Microsoft made money off the sales of Windows and that is it, that way Microsoft gets no cut from their Xbox. They lose a cut to Steam or Blizzard or whatever platform they chose to sell on, hell I'm sure Sony could make their own platform on PC.

This is a pure numbers game and has nothing to do with brand identity. Sony is losing money.

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@Juub1990 said:

@zeggelaar: The money they would make on PC migh be offset by the brand recognition it gets the Playstation platform.

Let's make the argument that there is three million people on PC that play PC only. Now imagine even half of them bought Spiderman, that is a rather large net profit for Sony.

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#3  Edited By Zeggelaar
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@recloud said:
@zeggelaar said:
@recloud said:
@zeggelaar said:

You should bitch about it, people can't get a game because of the box they own. It is ridicolous.

The Arkham games were not worse because they came to Playstation, Xbox, PC and Wii U

This is free market, sweetie, you do what you can to survive. Free market allows this. Free market is this.

Sony is funding this game so it is in their right to make it exclusive.

Are you agaisnt free market?

Are you saying they would lose money if they released to PC? PC is the largest gaming market outside of mobile worldwide. Sony essentially is asking to lose a lot of money skipping that market.

Free market is great and I fully support it, so when companies don't take advantage of the free market, they miss marketing to the wider crowd when they know there is money to be made it seems idiotic.

They would be devaluing PS4. What makes PS4 a valuable asset on the gaming market is its exclusives, without it, it would become an Xbox one: an useless console. Learn something about marketing and branding strategies.

There is a very large crowd that won't buy the Playstation or any console for that matter regardless of exclusives and I bet they will stick to that thinking. Do you not think that Sony is leaving money on the table?

God I would have bought GoW, HZD, Detroit and other games but $500 for the console and how ever much for those games gets me either a very nice upgrade to my PC or a ton of games on my PC.

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@locopatho said:
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Anticipating... they are saying it is great when the game hasn't even released yet. It will sell a lot due to hype but I bet the game is mediocre at best. I suspect a 6.5/10 on Metacritic.

Based on what exactly?

Insomniac are a great dev, if Metacritic is your bag they have a career average of 78 and a high of 91. They are a rock solid dev and make excellent games.

Source: http://www.metacritic.com/company/insomniac-games

Rare was an amazing company as well, they released solid games over and over again and look at them now.

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@recloud said:
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@davillain- said:

Insomniac signed an exclusive deal with Sony and Sony still owns the rights to Spider-Man and Marvel themselves have permission to use Spider-Man as they see fit. I believe when Sony was negotiating the movie rights they wanted the game rights as well since Activision's rights to Spider-Man had just expired. Me personally, I go where the games are, regardless if Spider-Man game was exclusive or not, I wouldn't care but the fact this is coming to PS4 only and I really want to play it, I gotta get it on PS4. I wish it came to PC but I'm NOT gonna bitch about it. Plus I like Marvel, Spider-Man was my first ever comic book character that introduce me to the world of Marvel growing up in the early 90's.

You should bitch about it, people can't get a game because of the box they own. It is ridicolous.

The Arkham games were not worse because they came to Playstation, Xbox, PC and Wii U

This is free market, sweetie, you do what you can to survive. Free market allows this. Free market is this.

Sony is funding this game so it is in their right to make it exclusive.

Are you agaisnt free market?

Are you saying they would lose money if they released to PC? PC is the largest gaming market outside of mobile worldwide. Sony essentially is asking to lose a lot of money skipping that market.
Free market is great and I fully support it, so when companies don't take advantage of the free market, they miss marketing to the wider crowd when they know there is money to be made it seems idiotic.

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@Ant_17 said:
@Juub1990 said:

@davillain-: Dude I’m a huge comic book geek(something implied when I indirectly mentioned A Serious House on a Serious Earth). My point is simply the MCU has nothing to do with the premise of the OP. Spider-Man was a huge name decades before the MCU and his games didn’t sell particularly well despite this.

There have been Spider-Man games in the past but not with this marketing nor exclusivity.

1 - Spiderman is prety much the face of Marvel.

2 - All the Spiderman games sold well, last one was 1 in the UK and that was Actvision garbage.

1 - I would bet that Iron Man is still the face of the MCU at the momet even without a new Iron Man movie, hell it may even be Black Panter at the moment.

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@davillain- said:

Insomniac signed an exclusive deal with Sony and Sony still owns the rights to Spider-Man and Marvel themselves have permission to use Spider-Man as they see fit. I believe when Sony was negotiating the movie rights they wanted the game rights as well since Activision's rights to Spider-Man had just expired. Me personally, I go where the games are, regardless if Spider-Man game was exclusive or not, I wouldn't care but the fact this is coming to PS4 only and I really want to play it, I gotta get it on PS4. I wish it came to PC but I'm NOT gonna bitch about it. Plus I like Marvel, Spider-Man was my first ever comic book character that introduce me to the world of Marvel growing up in the early 90's.

You should bitch about it, people can't get a game because of the box they own. It is ridicolous.
The Arkham games were not worse because they came to Playstation, Xbox, PC and Wii U

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@BenjaminBanklin said:
@Pedro said:

Some people enjoy the idea of exclusive games on their system more that the games themselves. I recall the hate Sunset had when it was revealed that it look repetitive, in come Spiderman with the same formula,Epic. LOL.

Can't wait 'til you tell us how awesome Crackdown 3 is.

It is unfortunate that Playstation, Switch and PC don't get it (if we even get it). I enjoyed the first 2 and I want other people to get it, shouldn't be locked just because of the box they own. I don't understand this slave to a corporation thing.

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@Pedro said:

Some people enjoy the idea of exclusive games on their system more that the games themselves. I recall the hate Sunset had when it was revealed that it look repetitive, in come Spiderman with the same formula,Epic. LOL.

That is fanboys in a nutshell and there is plenty of Sony fanboys on this site (@recloud)

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@recloud said:

@Juub1990: lmao, you're butthurt because people are anticipating the game, I'm just eager to see how you'll be when the game gets good scores and sell a lot.

Anticipating... they are saying it is great when the game hasn't even released yet. It will sell a lot due to hype but I bet the game is mediocre at best. I suspect a 6.5/10 on Metacritic.