Bethesda says it will make 'considerably more noise' in 2013

@topeira @Adavanter @DeKuip Seriously does anybody even understand how much they put skyrim and stil its ONLY 3GB of space. If you then also expect the combat to be like that of other rpg like the witcher or something like that you are living is a dream world. There is not nor ever has been a game so detailed and big as the elderscrols and everytime it looks like they are in head of time compared to other company's.

So seriously WTF do you want more out of a game. Bethesda is the only game company i respect and that's because they give me my money's worth.

@Adavanter @DeKuip Combat has been pretty bad in TES games, period. If you think the combat in Skyrim or Oblivion is bad, go play Morrowind. I still think Morrowind is the best of the 3, but god damn did I hate hitting a mudcrab for 3 hours missing 95% of my hits because of dicerolls.

Skyrim was a step in the right direction with combat, though. They did a good job making it a bit more visceral, still pretty dull overall though. They took a step back in the story/character department, and did a some good and bad things with the RPG elements.

@topeira @Adavanter @DeKuip

I think they might rely a little to much on the mod community, which is sad for console-players.

@Adavanter @DeKuip yea. skyrim is huge and absolutely amazing, but the animations and mediocre melee combat is lacking (a lot to do with the feel of the animations). there are mods on the PC that make every hit create a small stagger, time blocking, stamina reduction from blocking instead of health reduction, dual wield blocking etc etc which improves the combat 10 folds, but if these features were a part of the vanilla combat than less ppl would complain about animations and combat.
bethesda are close, but they chose not to do that for reasons i dont fully understand.