Gonna be One Crazy Party: Offical DMC4 Thread

Didn't see this thread when I posted my question in a new topic. I'll just copy and paste the message.

Recently I decided to get DMC4 for the Xbox 360. It's a fantastic game and looks stunning. But there is one thing which has me very disappointed at the moment. For some reason, I'm seeing glitches flashing onto the screen very often. I also saw this in Mass Effect but was not surprised because I had read about them. But now I've also seen them more frequently in Halo 3 and even more so in DMC4 even though I haven't read anything to suggest I should have expected them. So I'm wondering, is it my 360, the game (I doubt it), or my TV? After finishing the first time, I might even get the PS3 version, but I don't want to if there's no point. Does anyone know what's going on?

[QUOTE="_Dez_"]

[QUOTE="Shinoto"]S ranks hate me...As in...How the hell do you get enough orbs?:lol: I seem to always get stuck at a goddam B with them.dvader654

Break everything. If it looks like a bench or trashcan or chair or anything normal, then it's probably breakable. I find it a little annoying how you have to spend a few seconds running around the area smashing everything for red orbs. I'd rather gather the red orbs from all the enemies, but thems the breaks.

Yeah its annoying but you have to do it. All you need is an A rank on the orbs, with a S or two and no items you can S rank easy. I am almost done getting all S rank on DH, still working on finishing SoS mode as well.

I have probably played the game for over 30 hours now (in less than a week, that cant be healthy :P) I am completely addicted to this game, I love it. Its easily one of the best games of this gen.

I have to agree DMC4 is prolly my 2nd or 3rd fav game so far this gen :P.

Does anyone have the song "The Time Has Come" stuck in their head?

I love it!

SPOILERS SPOILERS SPOILERS!

Just finished level 10, and was a tad disappointed in the Dante fight. Easily the cheapest "Boss Battle" in the game so far. I ended up using 2 Vital Stars out of frustration (haven't used any before that). I used table hopper, countering, and Devil Trigger, but he always seemed to evade or counter endlessly. Sort of annoying.

I'm only on level 11, and from the looks of this thread, I gotta catch up with you guys. :) Damn working on the weekends!

playing on devil hunter and I'm on mission 13 or so.

Is it me...or is this game pretty easy compared to DMC3?

None of the bosses *except for the 2nd fight with Dante* haven provided much of a challenge. Meanwhile I remember getting my ass nearly killed fighting Cerberus in DMC3.

I really don't mind easy games (I'm a Zelda fan after all)...but considering that the DMC series is known for it's difficulty...it is kinda disappointing.

Or maybe I'm just getting really good at this genre. I'd probably have to play DMC3 again to see.

Still really great though. So far I'd give it an 8.5.

[QUOTE="Shinobishyguy"]

playing on devil hunter and I'm on mission 13 or so.

Is it me...or is this game pretty easy compared to DMC3?

None of the bosses *except for the 2nd fight with Dante* haven provided much of a challenge. Meanwhile I remember getting my ass nearly killed fighting Cerberus in DMC3.

I really don't mind easy games (I'm a Zelda fan after all)...but considering that the DMC series is known for it's difficulty...it is kinda disappointing.

Or maybe I'm just getting really good at this genre. I'd probably have to play DMC3 again to see.

Still really great though. So far I'd give it an 8.5.

dvader654

Yeah its easier than DMC3. Thats cause DMC3 started us off on hard mode.

Does anyone have the song "The Time Has Come" stuck in their head?

I love it!

martialbullet

If that's the main battle song for Nero then yes, yes I do.

playing on devil hunter and I'm on mission 13 or so.

Is it me...or is this game pretty easy compared to DMC3?

None of the bosses *except for the 2nd fight with Dante* haven provided much of a challenge. Meanwhile I remember getting my ass nearly killed fighting Cerberus in DMC3.

I really don't mind easy games (I'm a Zelda fan after all)...but considering that the DMC series is known for it's difficulty...it is kinda disappointing.

Or maybe I'm just getting really good at this genre. I'd probably have to play DMC3 again to see.

Still really great though. So far I'd give it an 8.5.

Shinobishyguy

The enemies aren't exactly aggressive, but playing DMC3 will make most games seem easier by comparison (except Ninja Gaiden).

To me, what makes this game challenging is trying to get a high score. Most people can go through the game with no problem, but to do stylishly and get a high score... now that can be tough.

I'm playing through SoS right now, and while it's not a big leap in difficulty, trying to maintain a high combo rating can be a little hard to do, especially when there doesn't appear to be many audio cues from enemies. Maybe that's just me. If there was a damage rating like there was in DMC3, I'd probably get a bunch of D's and C's in that category.

SPOILERS SPOILERS SPOILERS!

Just finished level 10, and was a tad disappointed in the Dante fight. Easily the cheapest "Boss Battle" in the game so far. I ended up using 2 Vital Stars out of frustration (haven't used any before that). I used table hopper, countering, and Devil Trigger, but he always seemed to evade or counter endlessly. Sort of annoying.

I'm only on level 11, and from the looks of this thread, I gotta catch up with you guys. :) Damn working on the weekends!

Jbul

Best way to take him down easy is by luring him toward you, not too close though and he will do 2-3 slash combo with the sword. If you do it correctly, he won't be able to hit you then you counter with YY+YYYY at first you might not get him all the time, but finish the combo and you'll stun him for a moment. It works most of the time, sometimes he'll roll to the side and evade the attack, but sometimes he'll get caught with that long range combo.

Copied from another post of mine since I'm too lazy to essentially retype the same thing (probably some spoilers in terms of mission structure):

I finished Devil Hunter this weekend. I don't know if I'd say it's easier than DMC3:SE exactly, and the game is fresh on my mind as I just played it for the first time a week or two ago. But it was the new character aspect. 20 missions, with Nero getting the majority of them, I had to get used to the Devil Bringer and using it well (I didn't figure out how to work Buster - can't hold down R1 - until about mission 5 or so, which would have been rather helpful on Berial). But, 13 missions with a brand new character, with you essentially stop using him once things start to ramp up a bit, and it felt like things were over before you really got to know him.

I did struggle with Nero, but flew through the same bosses with Dante. Partially because I had more health and maybe devil trigger and stuff, partially because I knew how they worked, partially because I was familiar with Dante. Even with the serpent boss basically being ready-made for Nero, I still did extremely well on those fights with Dante - my C rankings would jump up to A or S. And it wasn't just that boss, but the Angelos that were certainly simpler with Nero.

The one subtle change I noticed is that while DMC3 was more about defense, this game is more about offense. Normal enemies often have a windup that you can disrupt, so the best defense was just pure offense. While I used Trickster exclusively in DMC3, I pretty much always used Swordmaster in DMC4 (especially since Dante didn't have any aerial combos that isn't that silly downward slash which is wasteful on various enemies, and the high-powered combos are only really there with Swordmaster Level 4 which takes the place of the Buster you'd use on a stunned boss for big damage).

Pandora is just silly crazy, and my only regret is that I only got to use it for pretty much three missions. Gatling guns, bowguns, bazookas, giant laser beams, rocket launchers, riccocheting bladed boomerangs, and so forth, it was just great and finally a reason to use Gunslinger. Plus, they actually took visible damage off of a boss' life!

One thing I disliked was that if you failed a enemy a couple of times in a row, the game would handicap the enemy so you can get by it without giving you an option not to. Ugh. It was so frustrating to work on a boss strategy, almost take him down... and on the next fight just breeze through him since he was gimped when you wanted the satisfaction of beating him at full power. I liked how you had the option not to use Gold Orbs, I wish the same option was present here.

Some characters are just underdeveloped, especially Kyrie. She's the damsel in distress, yet when the villain dangles her in front of Nero, she just glances at you in silence. This was just so... odd. It's good they didn't really try to force Lady in as she didn't really have a purpose (and she was in two scenes, go and get the bonus epilogue!), but they tried to cram too much into too little. It's like a 10-mission game with 2 characters with a decent dose of repetition on Dante. I didn't mind refighting the bosses with Dante since you had to go about a few of them differently with your different moves. The third fight against them that was tossed in very late was just unnecessary, though.

Dante's final mission was awesome, though. Reminded me of a more interactive GoW2 opening. Unfortunately the story was essentially halted during his backtracking back to the start, which disrupted the pacing.

Overall I enjoyed it. It was a step down from DMC3, but it wasn't that far down, they just tried to add too much in too few stages. I think I still like it better than the original and... do I even need to comment about the second game?

I didn't mind refighting the bosses with Dante since you had to go about a few of them differently with your different moves. The third fight against them that was tossed in very late was just unnecessary, though.

argianas

I normally don't like it when Capcom does this, but I honestly didn't mind the boss repeats this time. Unlike DMC3, where there was mix between some great bosses and some really tedious ones, I found all of DMC4's bosses to be really enjoyable this time around.

Level 12: Playing as Dante is insanely fun, but takes some getting used to (never got into DMC3). I keep trying to throw people. :P The only enemy that seems harder are the wraiths, since I used to use the Devil Bringer to bring them down to their spider forms and maul them on the ground. Any tips? :)

DMC4 is the best in the series, plain and simple.fathoms_basic

My personal favorite is DMC3. This game comes is a close second for me, but I feel that it doesn't make as big of a leap with gameplay as DMC3 did.

I picked up my copy of DMC4 today and will start playing it very soon, can't wait. I've been catching up on the gaming news and perusing the threads and it sounds like I should have alot of fun playing this game.

I picked up my copy of DMC4 today and will start playing it very soon, can't wait. I've been catching up on the gaming news and perusing the threads and it sounds like I should have alot of fun playing this game.

Archangel3371

It's really a good game. I think the backtracking holds it back from being better than DMC3, but it's pretty damn close. The funny thing for me was that I played the HELL out of DMC3, and after playing through as Nero and moving on to Dante, it became apparent how delicately Capcom had crafted the game to suit both playstyles. Going from Nero to Dante was like playing a new game entirely.

This also filled a huge void for me -- action games have been hard to come by this generation. I whetted some of the bloodlust with Conan (which I actually enjoyed, despite its horribly crafted cutscenes), but DMC4 is like moving on from beer to expertly aged whiskey. The game has layers upon layers of technique that you'll slowly uncover as you play. There have been more than a few nights that I've been sitting in the living room and had a though pop in my head about a combo only to run in the den, kick the game on and find that it works. This game is very much about fine-tuned combat and boss fights, which makes it a game after my heart. It hits a few stumbling blocks with a few crappily-designed puzzles and the aforementioned backtracking, but make no mistake -- DMC4 is a masterpiece where it counts. And it looks absolutely sublime.

so how bout dem Blitzes

are they supposed to be invincible until they eventually kill themselves?

[QUOTE="Archangel3371"]

I picked up my copy of DMC4 today and will start playing it very soon, can't wait. I've been catching up on the gaming news and perusing the threads and it sounds like I should have alot of fun playing this game.

Shame-usBlackley

It's really a good game. I think the backtracking holds it back from being better than DMC3, but it's pretty damn close. The funny thing for me was that I played the HELL out of DMC3, and after playing through as Nero and moving on to Dante, it became apparent how delicately Capcom had crafted the game to suit both playstyles. Going from Nero to Dante was like playing a new game entirely.

This also filled a huge void for me -- action games have been hard to come by this generation. I whetted some of the bloodlust with Conan (which I actually enjoyed, despite its horribly crafted cutscenes), but DMC4 is like moving on from beer to expertly aged whiskey. The game has layers upon layers of technique that you'll slowly uncover as you play. There have been more than a few nights that I've been sitting in the living room and had a though pop in my head about a combo only to run in the den, kick the game on and find that it works. This game is very much about fine-tuned combat and boss fights, which makes it a game after my heart. It hits a few stumbling blocks with a few crappily-designed puzzles and the aforementioned backtracking, but make no mistake -- DMC4 is a masterpiece where it counts. And it looks absolutely sublime.

Sweet.

Yeah the cutscenes in Conan looked atrocious but when I played the demo I was surprised with how much I really enjoyed it. Probably because of it's heavily inspired God of War kind of action it has and some ways to finish off enemies are pretty satisfyingly gruesome. It's a game I wouldn't mind picking up sometime or maybe at least renting it.

DMC4 was certainly a game I wanted to buy and I thoroughly enjoyed 3 and despite me preferringthe first DMC game a tad more, mostly in things outside the combat such as Dante's attitude and such the gameplay is definately better in the third game and it sounds like DMC4 kept the gameplay top-notch.

I can be quite tolerable with games using backtracking so this may not be a sore point with me. I've read quite a few solid impressions with what the game delivers graphically and atmospherically so it sounds like I'm in for a treat.

How do you find the Achievemants? Too hard? Too easy? Or nicely balanced?

Sweet.

Yeah the cutscenes in Conan looked atrocious but when I played the demo I was surprised with how much I really enjoyed it. Probably because of it's heavily inspired God of War kind of action it has and some ways to finish off enemies are pretty satisfyingly gruesome. It's a game I wouldn't mind picking up sometime or maybe at least renting it.

DMC4 was certainly a game I wanted to buy and I thoroughly enjoyed 3 and despite me preferringthe first DMC game a tad more, mostly in things outside the combat such as Dante's attitude and such the gameplay is definately better in the third game and it sounds like DMC4 kept the gameplay top-notch.

I can be quite tolerable with games using backtracking so this may not be a sore point with me. I've read quite a few solid impressions with what the game delivers graphically and atmospherically so it sounds like I'm in for a treat.

How do you find the Achievemants? Too hard? Too easy? Or nicely balanced?

Archangel3371

The achievements are pretty brutal. Most of them are based around beating the different modes (including Dante Must Die) with S rankings. There are also achievements for each tier of the Bloody Palace, which is hard but great fun. The achievements are definitely geared towards high-level play, but they tie in nicely with the nature of the game, which is mastery in short doses.

They're hard as hell, and definitely not something I'll be able to blow through right away, but they'll keep me coming back to the game for a long while. What really scares me is thinking about Ninja Gaiden II's achievements, which are bound to be just silly.

Also, some places have Conan on sale for around $25 now, and at that price, it's a buy. The combat is fun and gory, and the bosses (with the exception of the last one, especially on King Mode) are pretty fun as well.

[QUOTE="Archangel3371"]

I picked up my copy of DMC4 today and will start playing it very soon, can't wait. I've been catching up on the gaming news and perusing the threads and it sounds like I should have alot of fun playing this game.

Shame-usBlackley

It's really a good game. I think the backtracking holds it back from being better than DMC3, but it's pretty damn close. The funny thing for me was that I played the HELL out of DMC3, and after playing through as Nero and moving on to Dante, it became apparent how delicately Capcom had crafted the game to suit both playstyles. Going from Nero to Dante was like playing a new game entirely.

This also filled a huge void for me -- action games have been hard to come by this generation. I whetted some of the bloodlust with Conan (which I actually enjoyed, despite its horribly crafted cutscenes), but DMC4 is like moving on from beer to expertly aged whiskey. The game has layers upon layers of technique that you'll slowly uncover as you play. There have been more than a few nights that I've been sitting in the living room and had a though pop in my head about a combo only to run in the den, kick the game on and find that it works. This game is very much about fine-tuned combat and boss fights, which makes it a game after my heart. It hits a few stumbling blocks with a few crappily-designed puzzles and the aforementioned backtracking, but make no mistake -- DMC4 is a masterpiece where it counts. And it looks absolutely sublime.

My review shall reflect this.

Thanks for the achievement impressions there dvader and Shame_us. I kind of like the way most of them sound since I enjoy playing like that and trying to get as good as I can section by section. I don't know if I'll ever get through the game on the hardest mode especially since I never did on the other DMC games, however I never really tried them at those levels anyway.

I'm really looking forward to seeing what achievements will be in Ninja Gaiden 2 as well especially since they are also taking suggestions from the gamers themselves. If you didn't know already you can submit ideas for achievements for Ninja Gaiden 2 at gamerscoreblog.com. You can suggest what the achievement is, how many points, and also what kind of picture it may be.

I noticed that Conan was cheaper then the typical full game price and $25 for it is definately worth the pick up for me. Thanks for the heads up.

[QUOTE="_Bear"]I got mine yesterday, I'm having a blast with it so far I'm on the 5th mission. I find it has a nice balance between challenge and maybe being a little easy, which for me is great! I had very hard time with DMC3 I think I'm getting a bit old I look at my scores compared tp others on XBLA friends list, and well I'm not doing as well as others :( But I'm still having a ton of fun, this is great game make no mistake about it. I find it a lot more accessible than past DMC titles. I know to some this is disappointment, but for me it means I can play it this time around and even have a chance of finishing it. I own both the DMC 1 and 3 and I never even got close to finishing before I became too frustrated to continue.dvader654

Glad you enjoy it. The easier difficulty is fine, there are plenty of modes for the veterans after they beat the game. Its the best of both worlds really.

Yea I never finished Ninja Gaiden either I got too frustrated, but I feel I'm going to finish this, its that same feeling I had with Uncharted. Great review BTW, I think this is the best action game I have played a long while.

[QUOTE="_Bear"][QUOTE="dvader654"]

[QUOTE="_Bear"]I got mine yesterday, I'm having a blast with it so far I'm on the 5th mission. I find it has a nice balance between challenge and maybe being a little easy, which for me is great! I had very hard time with DMC3 I think I'm getting a bit old I look at my scores compared tp others on XBLA friends list, and well I'm not doing as well as others :( But I'm still having a ton of fun, this is great game make no mistake about it. I find it a lot more accessible than past DMC titles. I know to some this is disappointment, but for me it means I can play it this time around and even have a chance of finishing it. I own both the DMC 1 and 3 and I never even got close to finishing before I became too frustrated to continue.dvader654

Glad you enjoy it. The easier difficulty is fine, there are plenty of modes for the veterans after they beat the game. Its the best of both worlds really.

Yea I never finished Ninja Gaiden either I got too frustrated, but I feel I'm going to finish this, its that same feeling I had with Uncharted. Great review BTW, I think this is the best action game I have played a long while.

There is this game board part of the game that seemed to frustrate people, so if you get there and are having issues I want to let you know that there is an easy way to get past it. Ask me if you ever need the help, no reason to get stuck in that part.

I think I just went through that part, there is like this giant die you shoot to roll it and move your other self across the game board? Is that it ? Was not a problem the fight coming up though with the boss and the flying Sword parts that is kicking my ass right now ! :evil: BTW thanks for the help offer if I get stuck I know who I'm going to ask! HEH.

Wow, I completely underestimated the usefulness of charging Nero's gun. At level 3 it demolishes everything. I mapped the gun attack to the R2 button and tried it on Bloody Palace and I managed to make it all the way to level 80! Before, I could barely get past Berial, but this thing is really useful, and looks like it's the best way to take out Blitz enemies with Nero.

Anybody here on DMD mode? I'm surprised to see that even bosses have DT now. It's really scary how much damage they do to you. Right now, I don't find it frustratingly difficult like it was in the first DMC, but I'm only on Mission 6 right now.

I felt that DMC3 was better in general. The gameplay felt fresh, theres alot more variety in the bosses, no level progressment which I loved in DMC3, less weapon variety, being specialized in a specific area instead of being the jack of all trades like Dante is in DMC4 and I actually liked the difficulty that DMC3 presented in comparison to DMC4 for some odd reason.

Thats not to put DMC4 down though, my review of the game reflects my view on the game.

Level 18...

I have to say; Pandora is one of the coolest weapons I've ever seen in a game, period. The gameplay changes pretty signifigantly with Dante, and I love it. This is fast becoming one of my favorite current-gen action games.

Look what I got! XD

anyways if the game is not cool I WILL KILL YOU! *goes back to playing*

I'm at Chapter 8 now in Devil Hunter difficulty setting and so far I'm enjoying the game quite abit. I really like Nero from a gameplay standpoint with the ability to grapple an enemy and rev up his sword. The only annoyance I have so far would be with some points in the game with the camera work are a little more frustrating then they should be for instance Secret Mission 5 where you need to bounce and grapple your way up to a blue orb piece within a set amount of time gave me a bit of a headache.

Nothing in particular has really blown me away yet but the game is very nice looking and playing and it has had it's cool moments so I'd certainly say that so far it is a really solid game. Boss battles have been fun also.

I really like how the atmosphere of the game is more in line with the first game where it's feels like it is "just enough" of being over the top.

I'm looking forward to start playing as Dante and to see some of the other characters from the series to start making their appearances as well.

Hey Arch, I hated the platforming segments too. Don't worry, they're only in the beginning, and the game gets even better as it progresses.

Can anyone help me with Bloody Palace mode?

I've only gone as far to level 19.

Even after all those crazy battles, a countless number of SSS combos and that ridiculous fight with Berial, I died from that level with the electric monster and lizards! and I still got a D!

WTF?

This game hates me :cry:

Beat the game a few minutes ago. Seriously awesome. This game has a few small flaws, but the backtracking didn't bother me one bit, neither did the repeated boss fights.

This may be one of my favorite games this generation. 9/10.