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#1 Fried_Shrimp
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The best racers this gen are Forza and Mario Kart.

[spoiler] Mario Kart DS 9.2 Mario Kart Wii 8.5 Forza 2 9.2 Forza 3 9.5 [/spoiler]

Discuss.

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#2 jg4xchamp
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Forza Motorsport 3 and Project Gotham Racing 4. Love me some PGR 4. Shame we won't get a 5 ;(
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#4 teknic1200
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The best racers this gen are Forza and Mario Kart.

Mario Kart DS 9.2 Mario Kart Wii 8.5 Forza 2 9.2 Forza 3 9.5

Discuss.

Fried_Shrimp
eXciteBots. sadly underrated, but amazing gameplay. I sunk 500 hours into it to come to that conclusion. It very much destroys mario kart and is also a 1st party game.
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#5 Fried_Shrimp
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Forza Motorsport 3 and Project Gotham Racing 4. Love me some PGR 4. Shame we won't get a 5 ;(jg4xchamp
No Project Gotham game got a 9.2.
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#6 razgriz_101
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by score yes but personal preference nah.

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#7 Fried_Shrimp
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by score yes but personal preference nah.

razgriz_101
You mean YOUR personal BIAS. By Score it's Forza and Mario Kart and that's what we go by.
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[QUOTE="jg4xchamp"]Forza Motorsport 3 and Project Gotham Racing 4. Love me some PGR 4. Shame we won't get a 5 ;(Fried_Shrimp
No Project Gotham game got a 9.2.

We only going by scores? or am I allowed to have my own thought process? Just wanted some clarification yo. Mario Kart is always fun, but eh the rubber band aspects of it were lame.
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#9 Fried_Shrimp
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[QUOTE="Fried_Shrimp"][QUOTE="jg4xchamp"]Forza Motorsport 3 and Project Gotham Racing 4. Love me some PGR 4. Shame we won't get a 5 ;(jg4xchamp
No Project Gotham game got a 9.2.

We only going by scores? or am I allowed to have my own thought process? Just wanted some clarification yo. Mario Kart is always fun, but eh the rubber band aspects of it were lame.

Scores obviously.
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#10 UCF_Knight
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[QUOTE="razgriz_101"]

by score yes but personal preference nah.

Fried_Shrimp
You mean YOUR personal BIAS. By Score it's Forza and Mario Kart and that's what we go by.

That would be personal preference.. lol It doesn't do much good to just tell people what the two highest scores are, we can look for ourselves. :o If there's no discussing personal preference in this thread, we're basically talking about how nice the numbers look in the review score..
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#11 jg4xchamp
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[QUOTE="Fried_Shrimp"][QUOTE="jg4xchamp"][QUOTE="Fried_Shrimp"] No Project Gotham game got a 9.2.

We only going by scores? or am I allowed to have my own thought process? Just wanted some clarification yo. Mario Kart is always fun, but eh the rubber band aspects of it were lame.

Scores obviously.

Fine based on scores The top 2 racers this gen are Forza Motorsport 3 and Forza Motorsport 2. Two separate games in the same franchise. If we want a second franchise in on this. Burnout gets a say with Paradise.
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Dirt 2. Under-appreciated. :(
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#13 Fried_Shrimp
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[QUOTE="Fried_Shrimp"][QUOTE="razgriz_101"]

by score yes but personal preference nah.

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You mean YOUR personal BIAS. By Score it's Forza and Mario Kart and that's what we go by.

That would be personal preference.. lol It doesn't do much good to just tell people what the two highest scores are, we can look for ourselves. :o If there's no discussing personal preference in this thread, we're basically talking about how nice the numbers look in the review score..

We can discuss which of the 8.5 games are better and stuff like that but scores matter here.
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#14 UCF_Knight
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We can discuss which of the 8.5 games are better and stuff like that but scores matter here.Fried_Shrimp

In the forum, yes. Coming up with topics for people to talk about is entirely up to topic creators.

I'll go along though.. Mario Kart and Forza have both had really good games. There, don't get too carried away in discussion! :P

But isn't talking about which one is a better high score bringing up your personal 'bias' that you said no to previously?

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#15 jg4xchamp
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[QUOTE="UCF_Knight"][QUOTE="Fried_Shrimp"] You mean YOUR personal BIAS. By Score it's Forza and Mario Kart and that's what we go by.Fried_Shrimp
That would be personal preference.. lol It doesn't do much good to just tell people what the two highest scores are, we can look for ourselves. :o If there's no discussing personal preference in this thread, we're basically talking about how nice the numbers look in the review score..

We can discuss which of the 8.5 games are better and stuff like that but scores matter here.

Scores matter to who? The same scores are consistently also brought into question when we get the usual "how did x game score higher than y" or "B game is overrated" or "C game clearly only got that score because of lower standards that year". Scores are a meaningless number, and just saying such and such game is better because of it is flawed. There needs to be you know reasoning, logic, and a rational thought process or argument behind why such and such is better.

Besides if you leave it to just scores...what's the point of this thread.

It ended at "Forza 3 got a 9.5, and Forza 2 got a 9.2" Both got Best Racers of the Year on gamespot in those years, and thus they are the top 2 racers this gen based on gamespot. End Thread.

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[QUOTE="razgriz_101"]

by score yes but personal preference nah.

Fried_Shrimp
You mean YOUR personal BIAS. By Score it's Forza and Mario Kart and that's what we go by.

And the score was chosen by someone with a personal opinion on each part of the game, if an impatient reviewer did the review for GT5 it would have gotten about 6.0... If a very patient person reviewed it and didn't mind the waiting then it'd probably score more, if he had bad eyesight then he probably wouldn't notice the visual difference... So score isn't a good judge on a better game, it just shows what the reviewer thought about it. Although if any i'd say PGR4 i love that game and still play it the odd time so yeah definitely a good game and deserved a good score. I never played Forza so can't really comment on it but i cant see it being too much different from GT5 other than slight visuals.
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going by scores yeah whatever is, going by what i had th most fun with it's dirt 2, moto gp and pgr4.

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Review scores do NOT = fact guys.

Anyway my favorate racing series this gen is probably Dirt or GRID. Both made by CODEMASTERS.

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#19 PAL360
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Forza 3 and PGR 4

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#20 Fried_Shrimp
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Review scores do NOT = fact guys.

Anyway my favorate racing series this gen is probably Dirt or GRID. Both made by CODEMASTERS.

MobilechicaneX
Codemasters have been MEH since they stopped making Dizzy games.
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#21 mD-
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Modnation Racer's is a better kart racer than both Mario Kart's. Stop abusing review scores please

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#22 Wanderer5
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[QUOTE="MobilechicaneX"]

Review scores do NOT = fact guys.

Anyway my favorate racing series this gen is probably Dirt or GRID. Both made by CODEMASTERS.

Fried_Shrimp

Codemasters have been MEH since they stopped making Dizzy games.

Dirt series and Grid got many great scores. The PC version of Grid and Dirt 2 are high AA at gamerankings.

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[QUOTE="Fried_Shrimp"][QUOTE="UCF_Knight"] That would be personal preference.. lol It doesn't do much good to just tell people what the two highest scores are, we can look for ourselves. :o If there's no discussing personal preference in this thread, we're basically talking about how nice the numbers look in the review score..jg4xchamp
We can discuss which of the 8.5 games are better and stuff like that but scores matter here.

Scores matter to who? The same scores are consistently also brought into question when we get the usual "how did x game score higher than y" or "B game is overrated" or "C game clearly only got that score because of lower standards that year". Scores are a meaningless number, and just saying such and such game is better because of it is flawed. There needs to be you know reasoning, logic, and a rational thought process or argument behind why such and such is better.Besides if you leave it to just scores...what's the point of this thread.It ended at "Forza 3 got a 9.5, and Forza 2 got a 9.2" Both got Best Racers of the Year on gamespot in those years, and thus they are the top 2 racers this gen based on gamespot. End Thread.

Great post!
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#24 johny300
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[QUOTE="MobilechicaneX"]

Review scores do NOT = fact guys.

Anyway my favorate racing series this gen is probably Dirt or GRID. Both made by CODEMASTERS.

Fried_Shrimp
Codemasters have been MEH since they stopped making Dizzy games.

What codemasters are awesome.
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#25 razgriz_101
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[QUOTE="razgriz_101"]

by score yes but personal preference nah.

Fried_Shrimp

You mean YOUR personal BIAS. By Score it's Forza and Mario Kart and that's what we go by.

ok ignorance seems to be your policy doesnt it?

im not biased against forza i have played and completed 1, played a fair bit of 2 and enjoyed playing 3.Neither am i biased against mario kart which i actually own.So before you start your malarky i implore you to kindly stop trying that troll bait on pal.

Just cause i agreed with it being by score but remembber were not ALL robots and follow what is gamespot gospel round here even you yourself are one of those i mean cmon your sig none of those games were any higher rated than other games in their genre or respective consoles but you deem them underrateed.

Pot calling the kettle black? indeed it is.

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Never been a fan of MK. On the HD consoles, PGR and Forza are highly rated. PGR3 - 8.8/10 PGR4 - 8.5/10 Forza 2 - 9.2/10 Forza 3 - 9.5/10 The 360 sure has a fantastic choice of racing games.
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#27 jg4xchamp
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Modnation Racer's is a better kart racer than both Mario Kart's. Stop abusing review scores please

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The racing is so mediocre though, and the controls aren't anywhere near as tight or as responsive. Plus the standard track design is so uninspired it isn't even funny. Modnation is more like a poor man's Mario Kart if anything.
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#28 PAL360
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[QUOTE="MobilechicaneX"]

Review scores do NOT = fact guys.

Anyway my favorate racing series this gen is probably Dirt or GRID. Both made by CODEMASTERS.

Fried_Shrimp

Codemasters have been MEH since they stopped making Dizzy games.

Ahh...i still have some Dizzy games for my Amiga500! Good times :)

But no, Codemasters are still great devs ;)

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#29 chocolate1325
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Yep can't argue there.

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Forza Motorsport 3 and Project Gotham Racing 4. Love me some PGR 4. Shame we won't get a 5 ;(jg4xchamp
?? MS confrimed that they're bringing back PGR and are intrested in buying BC to do it
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#31 RandomWinner
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Mario Kart... WII!?

That was

Without a doubt

The worst game I've ever played.

Switch it with the new Need for Speed, DiRT, Burnout, or Grid.

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#32 ZippySlappy
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Burnout Paradise>all. i liek it.
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GT5 and Forza. Why? Because they're both sims and as far as sims go, GT5 is "the most uncompromisingly realistic driving game on a console to date" and Forza has a high score so eat it!
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#34 GTSaiyanjin2
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My top 2 are Pure, and Dirt 2.... All time would be Burnout 3 and Burnout Revenge 8) hated paradise btw. Oh and I hated Mario Kart on the Wii, the DS version was miles better.

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#35 ImaPirate0202
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If your numbers are correct, then yes, those are the top racers on Gamespot.

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#36 Hakkai007
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I don't care about scores.

GS gave Legend of Dragoon a 6.4 but I thought the game was better than FFVII.

Heck most members gave it around a 9.

They also gave Strange Journey a 6 when that was one of my top DS games and most people felt that way too.

Scores are also based on bias and taste.

It's not like the GS editors are robots who use some complicated algorithm to get a score.

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Sad lemmings trying to rub it in. :P

Its a shame though, despite thinking they have the best racer on their console none of them are even playing it.

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#38 bigM10231
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sales console: Mario kart, GT5

Graphics Console:Forza3, GT5

gameplay IMO:MCLA, GT5

Sales Handheld: Mario kart, GTPSP

Graphics Handheld:MCLA, GTPSP

Gameplay handheld: MCLA GTPSP

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#39 Keiji993
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GT5-best sim NFS-best arcade. Mario kart-best kart
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#40 bigM10231
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why forza has a higher score than GT: because its easier to turn in forza and higher HP gains

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#41 OreoMilkshake
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Burnout Paradise > Forza :D Racing sims bore me.
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Don't care for Forza since I can't get into racing sims. Burnout Paradise and Mario Kart DS are the best to me, and I will see if Need for Speed: Hot Pursuit can top them along with Dirt 2.

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#43 inggrish
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[QUOTE="UCF_Knight"][QUOTE="Fried_Shrimp"] You mean YOUR personal BIAS. By Score it's Forza and Mario Kart and that's what we go by.Fried_Shrimp
That would be personal preference.. lol It doesn't do much good to just tell people what the two highest scores are, we can look for ourselves. :o If there's no discussing personal preference in this thread, we're basically talking about how nice the numbers look in the review score..

We can discuss which of the 8.5 games are better and stuff like that but scores matter here.

so what you have created rules for this thread?

haha nah personal preference all the way... Forza 3 and GT5 :)

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Shift for fon.

Forza for sim.

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Dirt 2. Under-appreciated. :(shalashaska88
I feel ya man. Got that game on Steam for $5 yesterday. I'm lovin' it.
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#46 Pug-Nasty
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MR > MK

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#47 _SWAG_
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sorry i dont agree. the top 2 racers are gt5p and gt5 and if you dont agree youre not a true racer fan imho

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#48 kozzy1234
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1/2. Forza3

1/2 . Gt5

3. DIRT2 (PC)

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As many have said, id say Forza 3 and PGR4, that game is criminally underlooked in every way..
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#50 GulliversTravel
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Don't care for Forza since I can't get into racing sims. Burnout Paradise and Mario Kart DS are the best to me, and I will see if Need for Speed: Hot Pursuit can top them along with Dirt 2.

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Thats because you havent given FM3 a try:) Its one of the most accessible racers EVER, and as you get more comfortable youll turn off assists. I never ever dreamed of playing with them off and a force feedback wheel but given the games customisation, it eases you in.