Top 10 QBs for 2009

1. Drew Brees-Arguable, but was one completeion away from breaking Dan Marino's passing yards mark last year, threw 34 TDs and just threw for 6 last Sunday.
2. Peyton Manning-Has been racking up the stats since entering the league, and is a 1st ballot HOF.
3. Tom Brady- Only concern is the pass protection he's getting this year.
4. Phillip Rivers- Had the highest QB rating last year, and tied for the most td passes at 34 last season, but O-Line is weak.
5. Aaron Rodgers- Puts up great stats. should be a force this year.
6. Ben Roethlisburger- A clutch QB that you can depend on. Throws too many interceptions and takes too many sacks, but cluch performances make up for it.
7. Joe Flacco- Best QB Baltimore has seen, and can help Baltimores offence be above average while their defence terrorizes opponents.
8. Tony Romo- Great player but can't even win in December
9. Carson Palmer- Injury concern but can play well.
10. Kurt Warner/Matt Ryan- Warners old and an injury concern, but still good, while Ryan is good but benefits from having a better supporting cast on offence than Flacco.

Brees, Brady, and Manning are in a class of their own. There's a huge gap between them and #4.geaux321

Brees!!!  Are you kidding me?  Alex Smith could do well in that offensive system, who knows what would happen if Flacco was in it.

I should have said Peyton but I put down other to back up my boy Romo.

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2009/writers/kerry_byrne/09/16/aikman/index.html 

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10. Peyton Manning

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10. Peyton Manning

CWEBB04z

I finally figured it out, you're just like Lou Holtz.

[QUOTE="CWEBB04z"]

1. Ben Roethlisberger
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10. Peyton Manning

geaux321

I finally figured it out, you're just like Lou Holtz.

Are you telling me that Notre Dame won't make it to the National Championship this year? INCONCEIVABLE SIR.

Had to go Brady. I hate the Pats, but that guy has a golden horseshoe up his a$$.

Roethlisberger would come after. Yeah, he's a little sloppy at times, but he gets the job done when it needs to be done.

1. Drew Brees-Arguable, but was one completeion away from breaking Dan Marino's passing yards mark last year, threw 34 TDs and just threw for 6 last Sunday.
2. Peyton Manning-Has been racking up the stats since entering the league, and is a 1st ballot HOF.
3. Tom Brady- Only concern is the pass protection he's getting this year.
4. Phillip Rivers- Had the highest QB rating last year, and tied for the most td passes at 34 last season, but O-Line is weak.
5. Aaron Rodgers- Puts up great stats. should be a force this year.
6. Ben Roethlisburger- A clutch QB that you can depend on. Throws too many interceptions and takes too many sacks, but cluch performances make up for it.
7. Joe Flacco- Best QB Baltimore has seen, and can help Baltimores offence be above average while their defence terrorizes opponents.
8. Tony Romo- Great player but can't even win in December
9. Carson Palmer- Injury concern but can play well.
10. Kurt Warner/Matt Ryan- Warners old and an injury concern, but still good, while Ryan is good but benefits from having a better supporting cast on offence than Flacco.

Goliath_unit

Not based on fantasy stats:

1. Brees...for same reasons as stated
2. Big Ben...all he does is win and do comebacks
3. Peyton...best on field coach this generation
4. Brady...more comebacks than losses in his career
5. Rivers...best kept secret among great QB's
6. Romo...needs to win late in season, but has been great in first 12 games of the year
7. Rogers...great year, needs to prove it again
8. Ryan...same as Rogers, but not as good numbers
9. Cutler...all the talent, none of the brains...if he can pull it together though
10. Warner...so old, but still good

11. Flaco...good for a rookie, but not that great in comparison to others

Plamer...had 2 great seasons...other than that NOTHING special
-bad knee, bad arm = it's over

[QUOTE="geaux321"][QUOTE="CWEBB04z"]

1. Ben Roethlisberger
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9. Ben Roethlisberger
10. Peyton Manning

haloraider

I finally figured it out, you're just like Lou Holtz.

Are you telling me that Notre Dame won't make it to the National Championship this year? INCONCEIVABLE SIR.

Brady
Brees
Manning
Roethlisberger
Rivers

Not really i any order other than the top 2.

1. Peyton Manning

1a. Tom Brady

3. Drew Brees

4. Carson Palmer

5. Philip Rivers

6. Tony Romo

7. Ben Roethlisberger

8. Eli Manning

9. Aaron Rodgers

10. Matt Ryan

Brady
Brees
Manning
Roethlisberger
Rivers

 

JackBurton

1. Brady
2. Manning
3. Roethlisberger
4. Brees
5. Rivers

I am very, very disgusted with anyone putting Brees over Brady. And Big Ben too? Sickening. Now with that said, did I actually see "Alex Smith could do good in that offense" as to discredit Brees? WTF!?!?! Did you see who Brees was throwing to last year when he nearly broke Dan Marino's single season passing yards record? Alex Smith is capable of that? Get real dude.Bobbles

If anything, Big Ben is better than Brees...2 Superbowls > 0 Superbowls

[QUOTE="Bobbles"]I am very, very disgusted with anyone putting Brees over Brady. And Big Ben too? Sickening. Now with that said, did I actually see "Alex Smith could do good in that offense" as to discredit Brees? WTF!?!?! Did you see who Brees was throwing to last year when he nearly broke Dan Marino's single season passing yards record? Alex Smith is capable of that? Get real dude.CWEBB04z

If anything, Big Ben is better than Brees...2 Superbowls > 0 Superbowls

[QUOTE="CWEBB04z"]

[QUOTE="Bobbles"]I am very, very disgusted with anyone putting Brees over Brady. And Big Ben too? Sickening. Now with that said, did I actually see "Alex Smith could do good in that offense" as to discredit Brees? WTF!?!?! Did you see who Brees was throwing to last year when he nearly broke Dan Marino's single season passing yards record? Alex Smith is capable of that? Get real dude.Bobbles

If anything, Big Ben is better than Brees...2 Superbowls > 0 Superbowls

I was just sayin...Brees shouldnt be put over Ben thats all..

and do you expect me to put one of my most hated players over my favorite player? no...bubbles...you disappoint me, here's a pic for you.

[QUOTE="Bobbles"]I am very, very disgusted with anyone putting Brees over Brady. And Big Ben too? Sickening. Now with that said, did I actually see "Alex Smith could do good in that offense" as to discredit Brees? WTF!?!?! Did you see who Brees was throwing to last year when he nearly broke Dan Marino's single season passing yards record? Alex Smith is capable of that? Get real dude.CWEBB04z

If anything, Big Ben is better than Brees...2 Superbowls > 0 Superbowls

Brees has never had the supporting cast or defence that Big Ben has. He can't do it by himself. He pretty much carried the Saints for the past three years.

Peyton Manning,

Tom Brady,

Drew Brees

Kurt Warner

Donovan McNabb

Philip Rivers,

Eli Manning,

Tony Romo,

Aaron Rodgers

Ben Roethlisberger

Peyton Manning,

Tom Brady,

Drew Brees

Kurt Warner

Donovan McNabb

Philip Rivers,

Eli Manning,

Tony Romo,

Aaron Rodgers

Ben Roethlisberger

kalabo10688

Big Ben and his 2 Super Bowls and tons of comebacks at the bottom...really?
Below 1 year starter Aaron Rogers
Below no playoff victories Romo (and I am a Cowboy fan)
Below 85 year old Kurt Warner

Big Ben is not an elite QB as of yet in my eyes. He is very close, i want to see him win a few shootouts without his Defense helping him then i'll be convinced.Mister__Awesome

He did several times...like the superbowl game, the Steelers defense only made one play the whole game, Fitz was all over that defense.

When Ben doesn't take like 8 sacks a game let me know and I'll consider putting him above Brees.geaux321

when Brees has a superbowl ring, let me know, and I'll consider putting him over Ben.

[QUOTE="geaux321"]When Ben doesn't take like 8 sacks a game let me know and I'll consider putting him above Brees.CWEBB04z

when Brees has a superbowl ring, let me know, and I'll consider putting him over Ben.

When your defense carries you to the game and all you have to do is not make mistakes and your going to tell me he's better than someone who carries his team without any help from the people on the other side of the ball.  Keep it up Lou.

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[QUOTE="geaux321"]When Ben doesn't take like 8 sacks a game let me know and I'll consider putting him above Brees.geaux321

when Brees has a superbowl ring, let me know, and I'll consider putting him over Ben.

When your defense carries you to the game and all you have to do is not make mistakes and your going to tell me he's better than someone who carries his team without any help from the people on the other side of the ball.  Keep it up Lou.

[QUOTE="geaux321"]When Ben doesn't take like 8 sacks a game let me know and I'll consider putting him above Brees.CWEBB04z

when Brees has a superbowl ring, let me know, and I'll consider putting him over Ben.

So according to your logic:

Trent Dilfer> Dan Marino, Warren Moon, Randall Cunningham, Steve McNair, Rich Gannon.

Seriously???

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[QUOTE="geaux321"]When Ben doesn't take like 8 sacks a game let me know and I'll consider putting him above Brees.Darth_Revan_666

when Brees has a superbowl ring, let me know, and I'll consider putting him over Ben.

So according to your logic:

Trent Dilfer> Dan Marino, Warren Moon, Randall Cunningham, Steve McNair, Rich Gannon.

Seriously???

Don't forget Dan Fouts, Jim Kelly and Fran Tarkenton.

[QUOTE="Darth_Revan_666"][QUOTE="CWEBB04z"]

[QUOTE="geaux321"]When Ben doesn't take like 8 sacks a game let me know and I'll consider putting him above Brees.Goliath_unit

when Brees has a superbowl ring, let me know, and I'll consider putting him over Ben.

So according to your logic:

Trent Dilfer> Dan Marino, Warren Moon, Randall Cunningham, Steve McNair, Rich Gannon.

Seriously???

Don't forget Dan Fouts, Jim Kelly and Fran Tarkenton.

Yeah, these were just off the the top of my head. But you get my point.

Ben is below Brees, both Manning's, Brady and McNabb. The Steelers win games because of its defense and well rounded offense, not Ben.D-Tru-King

Defense is good
But
They have had almost no running gams for the past 2 years.

Ben is below Brees, both Manning's, Brady and McNabb. The Steelers win games because of its defense and well rounded offense, not Ben.D-Tru-King

McNabb??? Seriously?

[QUOTE="D-Tru-King"]Ben is below Brees, both Manning's, Brady and McNabb. The Steelers win games because of its defense and well rounded offense, not Ben.rawsavon

Defense is good
But
They have had almost no running gams for the past 2 years.

[QUOTE="D-Tru-King"]Ben is below Brees, both Manning's, Brady and McNabb. The Steelers win games because of its defense and well rounded offense, not Ben.garey017

McNabb??? Seriously?

[QUOTE="rawsavon"]

[QUOTE="D-Tru-King"]Ben is below Brees, both Manning's, Brady and McNabb. The Steelers win games because of its defense and well rounded offense, not Ben.D-Tru-King

Defense is good
But
They have had almost no running gams for the past 2 years.

[QUOTE="D-Tru-King"]Ben is below Brees, both Manning's, Brady and McNabb. The Steelers win games because of its defense and well rounded offense, not Ben.garey017

McNabb??? Seriously?

I can't tell if you are agreeing or not...but the steelers have not had a good running game since Bettis left.
-Big Ben does have a good D though.

McNabb is good...if healthy...huge if...always hurt.
Plus he can't win the big one.

I was agreeing.

And McNabb is great when healthy. If he had a top wide receiver, he'd win the big one.

I was agreeing.

And McNabb is great when healthy. If he had a top wide receiver, he'd win the big one.

D-Tru-King

Just being a sarcastic a-hole.  McNabb is good...if he's, wait, we've done this already.

As a Cowboys fan it pains me yet elates me to say that Randall Cunningham is my favorite QB all time. 

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I was agreeing.

And McNabb is great when healthy. If he had a top wide receiver, he'd win the big one.

themyrmidon

Just being a sarcastic a-hole.  McNabb is good...if he's, wait, we've done this already.

As a Cowboys fan it pains me yet elates me to say that Randall Cunningham is my favorite QB all time. 

At least he was a Cowboy too...for about a minute

As a Cowboys fan it pains me yet elates me to say that Randall Cunningham is my favorite QB all time. themyrmidon

Randall Frakkin Cunningham is your fave QB of all time, are you kidding me?! GTFO!!! :evil:

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As a Cowboys fan it pains me yet elates me to say that Randall Cunningham is my favorite QB all time. JackBurton

Randall Frakkin Cunningham is your fave QB of all time, are you kidding me?! GTFO!!! :evil:

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As a Cowboys fan it pains me yet elates me to say that Randall Cunningham is my favorite QB all time. themyrmidon

Randall Frakkin Cunningham is your fave QB of all time, are you kidding me?! GTFO!!! :evil:

[QUOTE="Bobbles"]I am very, very disgusted with anyone putting Brees over Brady. And Big Ben too? Sickening. Now with that said, did I actually see "Alex Smith could do good in that offense" as to discredit Brees? WTF!?!?! Did you see who Brees was throwing to last year when he nearly broke Dan Marino's single season passing yards record? Alex Smith is capable of that? Get real dude.CWEBB04z

If anything, Big Ben is better than Brees...2 Superbowls > 0 Superbowls

Brees may not have a Superbowl ring, but at least he doesn't have to pay off the ref to win superbowls, both actully, everyone cane say that I'm still living in the past but the Seahawks, and the Cardinals, were screwed in the two superbowls.

But to get back on topic it should go, Brees, Brady(As much I hate to say that), Eli, Ryan, Payton, Big Ben, Rivers, Collins, Palmer, Flacco.

I think at the end of the season and pretty much when it is all set and done the best QB of all time will be Brady over Manning. 3 Superbowl wins over 1 (As it stands now) is a huge factor to me. Manning might have his MVP's but Brady got an MVP too and 2 Superbowl MVP's :) Perhaps Im biased lol that is just how i feel.Mister__Awesome

After your stupid post about Madden having better ratings than NFL 2k games in the sports games discussion forum (while its obviously not true, if you use your eyes and your brain, something you may not be familiar with) and now this, saying somehow Superbowl wins is the ultimate way to measure the quality of a QB, I officially hate you :) . So yes, not only you're biased, but your arguments are worthless too. You winz teh internetz sir.

I think at the end of the season and pretty much when it is all set and done the best QB of all time will be Brady over Manning. 3 Superbowl wins over 1 (As it stands now) is a huge factor to me. Manning might have his MVP's but Brady got an MVP too and 2 Superbowl MVP's :) Perhaps Im biased lol that is just how i feel.Mister__Awesome

Now I think that if your going to compare one Manning from another, then say who your talking about, I believe your ment to say Payton Manning, and not Manning, but I really already said who I thought was the best IMHO. :)