Top 10 QBs for 2009

drew brees is doing wonderful and better than the other qbsflo17602

Bens 417 yards > Brees 300+ yards..

[QUOTE="Espurs117"]Neon stop being a little girl, it is really that simple. K thanks. Koi-Neon-X

THIS is exactly what I'm talking about. Nobody needs to hear from you because you really have nothing intelligent to say. Oh, wait you heard your name being mentioned and just had to reply with a weak response right? only a matter of time before you slip up again and the mods get rid of you for good and I'm sure you'll provide them with a good reason in the near future. Your immaturity will be your downfall and with your post you only prove me right.

WTF happeped[/QUOTE

It seems a few people have taken issue with who I picked as my top ten QBs for 2009 and quite frankly the whole thing is just really out of hand. It's nice to see Goliath_unit get things back on track with what this is supposed to be all about. It shows maturity where othesr lack it. Something very simple turned into something complicated and what makes me laugh is it doesn't make sense! just take a look at darth revans 666 responses and you'll see what I mean. He's basically screaming for attention! he doesn't like who I picked so now he has to show out and basically say "please, someone look at me" bobbles is utterly confused (guess the screenname fits) with the difference between slurring people with mental disabilities and simply defending yourself when someone bad mouths you for no good reason and espurs it goes without saying. He decided to bad mouth me and my thoughts on my favorite NFL player LT and so I dish it back to him, he can't take it, and goes crying to the union leader over the whole debate. Everybody has their own opinion and there is no need to slam someone just because your opinion doesn't match yours. All I can say is-WHATEVER.

kalabo10688

I don't know how to put this but...im kinda a big deal, people know me. Nobody really cares what you say dude. Im sorry but I am awesome, you on the other hand...lol. Also, you messaged Wally, I didn't. Want Wally to clarify? You also messaged me crying about how your life sucks right now and why you got angry over the internet. I will be honest, I laughed. I took the time to come back and post this because it is important for you to realize how much more awesome I am than you.

[QUOTE="flo17602"]drew brees is doing wonderful and better than the other qbsCWEBB04z

Bens 417 yards > Brees 300+ yards..

Giants D >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Browns D

Keep trying.

[QUOTE="Koi-Neon-X"]

[QUOTE="Espurs117"]Neon stop being a little girl, it is really that simple. K thanks. Espurs117

THIS is exactly what I'm talking about. Nobody needs to hear from you because you really have nothing intelligent to say. Oh, wait you heard your name being mentioned and just had to reply with a weak response right? only a matter of time before you slip up again and the mods get rid of you for good and I'm sure you'll provide them with a good reason in the near future. Your immaturity will be your downfall and with your post you only prove me right.

WTF happeped[/QUOTE

It seems a few people have taken issue with who I picked as my top ten QBs for 2009 and quite frankly the whole thing is just really out of hand. It's nice to see Goliath_unit get things back on track with what this is supposed to be all about. It shows maturity where othesr lack it. Something very simple turned into something complicated and what makes me laugh is it doesn't make sense! just take a look at darth revans 666 responses and you'll see what I mean. He's basically screaming for attention! he doesn't like who I picked so now he has to show out and basically say "please, someone look at me" bobbles is utterly confused (guess the screenname fits) with the difference between slurring people with mental disabilities and simply defending yourself when someone bad mouths you for no good reason and espurs it goes without saying. He decided to bad mouth me and my thoughts on my favorite NFL player LT and so I dish it back to him, he can't take it, and goes crying to the union leader over the whole debate. Everybody has their own opinion and there is no need to slam someone just because your opinion doesn't match yours. All I can say is-WHATEVER.

kalabo10688

I don't know how to put this but...im kinda a big deal, people know me. Nobody really cares what you say dude. Im sorry but I am awesome, you on the other hand...lol. Also, you messaged Wally, I didn't. Want Wally to clarify? You also messaged me crying about how your life sucks right now and why you got angry over the internet. I will be honest, I laughed. I took the time to come back and post this because it is important for you to realize how much more awesome I am than you.

I disagree. Your a loser.

[QUOTE="CWEBB04z"]

[QUOTE="flo17602"]drew brees is doing wonderful and better than the other qbsgeaux321

Bens 417 yards > Brees 300+ yards..

Giants D >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Browns D

Keep trying.

yea, and didnt Brees throw 6 TDs against the Lions, and you wall were like "OMG! Brees is the best evar!"

''I disagree. Your a loser.''

Thats exactly why your opinions has no relevance CWEBB...

[QUOTE="geaux321"][QUOTE="CWEBB04z"]

[QUOTE="flo17602"]drew brees is doing wonderful and better than the other qbsCWEBB04z

Bens 417 yards > Brees 300+ yards..

Giants D >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Browns D

Keep trying.

yea, and didnt Brees throw 6 TDs against the Lions, and you wall were like "OMG! Brees is the best evar!"

Nobody said that, the medias did though.

''I disagree. Your a loser.''

Thats exactly why your opinions has no relevance CWEBB...

Darth_Revan_666

your just jealous!

[QUOTE="flo17602"]drew brees is doing wonderful and better than the other qbsCWEBB04z

Bens 417 yards > Brees 300+ yards..

Brees 4 TDs >>>>>> Roesthliburgers 2 TDS
Saints 48 pts against Giants >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Steelers 24 against Browns
Saints 5-0 Record >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Steelers 4-2

Don't bring up this crap about Roesthlisburger having 2 rings and Brees having none. Brees has never had any defence close to the calibur that Roesthlisburger has, and if the Steelers never had the defence they've had, Roesthlisburger would look average.

[QUOTE="CWEBB04z"]

[QUOTE="flo17602"]drew brees is doing wonderful and better than the other qbsGoliath_unit

Bens 417 yards > Brees 300+ yards..

Brees 4 TDs >>>>>> Roesthliburgers 2 TDS
Saints 48 pts against Giants >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Steelers 24 against Browns
Saints 5-0 Record >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Steelers 4-2

Don't bring up this crap about Roesthlisburger having 2 rings and Brees having none. Brees has never had any defence close to the calibur that Roesthlisburger has, and if the Steelers never had the defence they've had, Roesthlisburger would look average.

Fine. Lets use the season stats.

Bens 1887 passing yards > Brees 1400 passing yards. Even though Brees had a bye, he would have to throw 487 yards to match Ben.

And BTW last years stats:

Brees: 5069 passing yards, 34 TDs 17 INTs

Roethlisberger: 3301 passing yards, 17 TDs 15 INTs

They dont even belong in the same freaking universe

And BTW last years stats:

Brees: 5069 passing yards, 34 TDs 17 INTs

Roethlisberger: 3301 passing yards, 17 TDs 15 INTs

They dont even belong in the same freaking universe

Darth_Revan_666

Living in the past I see. Brees threw the ball 600+ times, Ben threw it 400+ times. I wanna see them both throw the same amount of passes. We'll see who is better.

[QUOTE="Darth_Revan_666"]

And BTW last years stats:

 

Brees: 5069 passing yards, 34 TDs 17 INTs

 

Roethlisberger: 3301 passing yards, 17 TDs 15 INTs

 

They dont even belong in the same freaking universe

 

 

CWEBB04z

Living in the past I see. Brees threw the ball 600+ times, Ben threw it 400+ times. I wanna see them both throw the same amount of passes. We'll see who is better.

With the amount of 3 nd outs he produced, no wonder why he threw so few passes. And WTF ''living in the past''? You're the first guy in line to brag about his 2 rings and the lack of rings of Brees. You're worst than a console fanboy.

[QUOTE="Darth_Revan_666"]

And BTW last years stats:

 

Brees: 5069 passing yards, 34 TDs 17 INTs

 

Roethlisberger: 3301 passing yards, 17 TDs 15 INTs

 

They dont even belong in the same freaking universe

 

 

CWEBB04z

Living in the past I see. Brees threw the ball 600+ times, Ben threw it 400+ times. I wanna see them both throw the same amount of passes. We'll see who is better.

Oh and here's a comparison of the passing defenses each QB has played this year:

Ben:
Titans- 31st ranked

Bears- 20th ranked

Bengals- 22nd ranked

Chargers: 12th ranked

Lions- 27th ranked

Browns- 10th ranked

Brees:

Lions- 27th ranked

Egals- 4th ranked

Bills- 6th ranked

Jets- 8th ranked

Giants- 1st ranked

Hmm, looks like Brees has played better passing defenses thus far. Once again, Brees>>>Ben.

[QUOTE="Goliath_unit"][QUOTE="CWEBB04z"]

[QUOTE="flo17602"]drew brees is doing wonderful and better than the other qbsCWEBB04z

Bens 417 yards > Brees 300+ yards..

>

Brees 4 TDs >>>>>> Roesthliburgers 2 TDS
Saints 48 pts against Giants >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Steelers 24 against Browns
Saints 5-0 Record >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Steelers 4-2

Don't bring up this crap about Roesthlisburger having 2 rings and Brees having none. Brees has never had any defence close to the calibur that Roesthlisburger has, and if the Steelers never had the defence they've had, Roesthlisburger would look average.

Fine. Lets use the season stats.

Bens 1887 passing yards > Brees 1400 passing yards. Even though Brees had a bye, he would have to throw 487 yards to match Ben.

Cwebbs if that the case

Kevin Kolb > NFL qbs

700+ yards and 4 tds  in 2 games

1. Peyton - Hes always been the best in the game

2. Brees - in the regular season i would rather have brees than peyton...but in the postseason id rather have peyton

3. Brady - hes one of the best...but i think the patriots are good because of the system...not brady

4. Aaron Rodgers

5. Matt Schuab

6. Joe Flacco - putting up great numbers with not the best WRs

7. Brett Farve - give him some credit

8.  Kurt Warner

9.  Tony Romo

10. Jay Cutler

1. Peyton - Hes always been the best in the game

2. Brees - in the regular season i would rather have brees than peyton...but in the postseason id rather have peyton

3. Brady - hes one of the best...but i think the patriots are good because of the system...not brady

4. Aaron Rodgers

5. Matt Schuab

6. Joe Flacco - putting up great numbers with not the best WRs

7. Brett Farve - give him some credit

8. Kurt Warner

9. Tony Romo

10. Jay Cutler

chAzN93

you serious :|

[QUOTE="chAzN93"]

1. Peyton - Hes always been the best in the game

2. Brees - in the regular season i would rather have brees than peyton...but in the postseason id rather have peyton

3. Brady - hes one of the best...but i think the patriots are good because of the system...not brady

4. Aaron Rodgers

5. Matt Schuab

6. Joe Flacco - putting up great numbers with not the best WRs

7. Brett Farve - give him some credit

8. Kurt Warner

9. Tony Romo

10. Jay Cutler

 

CWEBB04z

you serious :|

very influenced by ones i like

[QUOTE="CWEBB04z"][QUOTE="chAzN93"]

1. Peyton - Hes always been the best in the game

2. Brees - in the regular season i would rather have brees than peyton...but in the postseason id rather have peyton

3. Brady - hes one of the best...but i think the patriots are good because of the system...not brady

4. Aaron Rodgers

5. Matt Schuab

6. Joe Flacco - putting up great numbers with not the best WRs

7. Brett Farve - give him some credit

8. Kurt Warner

9. Tony Romo

10. Jay Cutler

chAzN93

you serious :|

very influenced by ones i like

Im just saying..where is Big Ben!

1. Peyton - Hes always been the best in the game

2. Brees - in the regular season i would rather have brees than peyton...but in the postseason id rather have peyton

3. Brady - hes one of the best...but i think the patriots are good because of the system...not brady

4. Aaron Rodgers

5. Matt Schuab

6. Joe Flacco - putting up great numbers with not the best WRs

7. Brett Farve - give him some credit

8.  Kurt Warner

9.  Tony Romo

10. Jay Cutler

 

chAzN93

In the postseason it is easily

 Brady > Manning > Brees

[QUOTE="chAzN93"]

1. Peyton - Hes always been the best in the game

2. Brees - in the regular season i would rather have brees than peyton...but in the postseason id rather have peyton

3. Brady - hes one of the best...but i think the patriots are good because of the system...not brady

4. Aaron Rodgers

5. Matt Schuab

6. Joe Flacco - putting up great numbers with not the best WRs

7. Brett Farve - give him some credit

8.  Kurt Warner

9.  Tony Romo

10. Jay Cutler

 

Mister__Awesome

In the postseason it is easily

 Brady > Manning > Brees

Put Brees out of there, he barely played any playoff games to prove himself.

[QUOTE="Mister__Awesome"][QUOTE="chAzN93"]

1. Peyton - Hes always been the best in the game

2. Brees - in the regular season i would rather have brees than peyton...but in the postseason id rather have peyton

3. Brady - hes one of the best...but i think the patriots are good because of the system...not brady

4. Aaron Rodgers

5. Matt Schuab

6. Joe Flacco - putting up great numbers with not the best WRs

7. Brett Farve - give him some credit

8.  Kurt Warner

9.  Tony Romo

10. Jay Cutler

 

Darth_Revan_666

In the postseason it is easily

 Brady > Manning > Brees

Put Brees out of there, he barely played any playoff games to prove himself.

I only put Brees because that is a QB everyone seems to be hot with right now so i did that so people can realize that Postseason he isn't close to those two if it were up to my Top 5 Postseason QBs now

 -Tom Brady

-Peyton Manning

-Ben Roethlisberger

-Kurt Warner

-Eli Manning

Brees isnt looking too good now. He threw 3 picks to Bens 0...CWEBB04z

A good QB finds a way to win games like those. Brady sort of did it Week 1 and countless times before. Brees just did it and I am actually impressed, big ups

Brees isnt looking too good now. He threw 3 picks to Bens 0...CWEBB04z

Brees offense: 48 points against the Giants defense

Roethlisberger offense: 13 points against Vikings defense

DO THE MATH

[QUOTE="CWEBB04z"]Brees isnt looking too good now. He threw 3 picks to Bens 0...Darth_Revan_666

Brees offense: 48 points against the Giants defense

Roethlisberger offense: 13 points against Vikings defense

DO THE MATH

Brees - 3 INTS against the Dolphins Defense, they are ranked 15th in the league in pass defense, while the Giants were 7th, and yet Brees threw 3 picks against a worse pass defensive team? oh wait...it doesnt matter, he got a win...but if Ben plays like this, he isnt elite, and Brees still is. Great logic!

[QUOTE="Darth_Revan_666"]

[QUOTE="CWEBB04z"]Brees isnt looking too good now. He threw 3 picks to Bens 0...CWEBB04z

Brees offense: 48 points against the Giants defense

Roethlisberger offense: 13 points against Vikings defense

DO THE MATH

Brees - 3 INTS against the Dolphins Defense, they are ranked 15th in the league in pass defense, while the Giants were 7th, and yet Brees threw 3 picks against a worse pass defensive team? oh wait...it doesnt matter, he got a win...but if Ben plays like this, he isnt elite, and Brees still is. Great logic!

Isn't your usual "Ben is the best because 2 Super Bowl wins > 0" based on the same logic?

[QUOTE="CWEBB04z"][QUOTE="Darth_Revan_666"]

[QUOTE="CWEBB04z"]Brees isnt looking too good now. He threw 3 picks to Bens 0...wallymartin

Brees offense: 48 points against the Giants defense

Roethlisberger offense: 13 points against Vikings defense

DO THE MATH

Brees - 3 INTS against the Dolphins Defense, they are ranked 15th in the league in pass defense, while the Giants were 7th, and yet Brees threw 3 picks against a worse pass defensive team? oh wait...it doesnt matter, he got a win...but if Ben plays like this, he isnt elite, and Brees still is. Great logic!

Isn't your usual "Ben is the best because 2 Super Bowl wins > 0" based on the same logic?

Tom Brady really doesnt put up big numbers in the regular season, he didnt even throw more than 30 TDS in a season until '07 but since he has 3 superbowls, hes been on the top list.

Ben is 8th all-time in NFL passer rating (90.9), 7th in yards per attempt (7.97), and 7th in completion percentage (63.3%) with a minimum of 1500 career attempts, has thrown 3 perfect games, and 2 Superbowl Wins.

Brees has a passer rating of (90.6), (7.3) yards per attempt, a completion percentage of (64%),

Pretty close imo

[QUOTE="wallymartin"][QUOTE="CWEBB04z"][QUOTE="Darth_Revan_666"]

[QUOTE="CWEBB04z"]Brees isnt looking too good now. He threw 3 picks to Bens 0...CWEBB04z

Brees offense: 48 points against the Giants defense

Roethlisberger offense: 13 points against Vikings defense

DO THE MATH

Brees - 3 INTS against the Dolphins Defense, they are ranked 15th in the league in pass defense, while the Giants were 7th, and yet Brees threw 3 picks against a worse pass defensive team? oh wait...it doesnt matter, he got a win...but if Ben plays like this, he isnt elite, and Brees still is. Great logic!

Isn't your usual "Ben is the best because 2 Super Bowl wins > 0" based on the same logic?

Tom Brady really doesnt put up big numbers in the regular season, he didnt even throw more than 30 TDS in a season until '07 but since he has 3 superbowls, hes been on the top list.

Ben is 8th all-time in NFL passer rating (90.9), 7th in yards per attempt (7.97), and 7th in completion percentage (63.3%) with a minimum of 1500 career attempts, has thrown 3 perfect games, and 2 Superbowl Wins.

Brees has a passer rating of (90.6), (7.3) yards per attempt, a completion percentage of (64%),

Pretty close imo

[QUOTE="CWEBB04z"][QUOTE="wallymartin"][QUOTE="CWEBB04z"][QUOTE="Darth_Revan_666"]

[QUOTE="CWEBB04z"]Brees isnt looking too good now. He threw 3 picks to Bens 0...themyrmidon

Brees offense: 48 points against the Giants defense

Roethlisberger offense: 13 points against Vikings defense

DO THE MATH

Brees - 3 INTS against the Dolphins Defense, they are ranked 15th in the league in pass defense, while the Giants were 7th, and yet Brees threw 3 picks against a worse pass defensive team? oh wait...it doesnt matter, he got a win...but if Ben plays like this, he isnt elite, and Brees still is. Great logic!

Isn't your usual "Ben is the best because 2 Super Bowl wins > 0" based on the same logic?

Tom Brady really doesnt put up big numbers in the regular season, he didnt even throw more than 30 TDS in a season until '07 but since he has 3 superbowls, hes been on the top list.

Ben is 8th all-time in NFL passer rating (90.9), 7th in yards per attempt (7.97), and 7th in completion percentage (63.3%) with a minimum of 1500 career attempts, has thrown 3 perfect games, and 2 Superbowl Wins.

Brees has a passer rating of (90.6), (7.3) yards per attempt, a completion percentage of (64%),

Pretty close imo

Bens 2 Superbowls > Romo's 0

Like I said. Brady doesnt have the regular season stats like Brees, yet Brady is ranked #1 or #2...because of his Superbowl rings. Ben should get the same treatment.

[QUOTE="themyrmidon"]So you admit Romo is better than both? 94.7 rating, 8.1 ypa, 63.2 completion %.CWEBB04z

Bens 2 Superbowls >Romo's 0 playoff wins

[QUOTE="themyrmidon"][QUOTE="CWEBB04z"][QUOTE="wallymartin"][QUOTE="CWEBB04z"][QUOTE="Darth_Revan_666"]

[QUOTE="CWEBB04z"]Brees isnt looking too good now. He threw 3 picks to Bens 0...CWEBB04z

Brees offense: 48 points against the Giants defense

Roethlisberger offense: 13 points against Vikings defense

DO THE MATH

Brees - 3 INTS against the Dolphins Defense, they are ranked 15th in the league in pass defense, while the Giants were 7th, and yet Brees threw 3 picks against a worse pass defensive team? oh wait...it doesnt matter, he got a win...but if Ben plays like this, he isnt elite, and Brees still is. Great logic!

Isn't your usual "Ben is the best because 2 Super Bowl wins > 0" based on the same logic?

Tom Brady really doesnt put up big numbers in the regular season, he didnt even throw more than 30 TDS in a season until '07 but since he has 3 superbowls, hes been on the top list.

Ben is 8th all-time in NFL passer rating (90.9), 7th in yards per attempt (7.97), and 7th in completion percentage (63.3%) with a minimum of 1500 career attempts, has thrown 3 perfect games, and 2 Superbowl Wins.

Brees has a passer rating of (90.6), (7.3) yards per attempt, a completion percentage of (64%),

Pretty close imo

Bens 2 Superbowls > Romo's 0

Like I said. Brady doesnt have the regular season stats like Brees, yet Brady is ranked #1 or #2...because of his Superbowl rings. Ben should get the same treatment.

I am always going to say Brady #1 (I'm a homer like that) but are you saying that Big Ben is better than Peyton Manning then? Ben 2 > Manning 1? I'd take Manning over Ben any day of the week.

I think that I'll just agree to disagree. We'll never convince CWEBB that Brees is better than Big Ben and vice versia.

What do you guys think of Peyton Manning's play this year? He is playing the best football of his career and some of the best QB play ever. He's my early canidite for MVP, by a landslide. Given that the Chargers likely won't win the Super Bowl, I'm pulling for the Colts to win it this year.

Had to go Brady. I hate the Pats, but that guy has a golden horseshoe up his a$$.

Roethlisberger would come after. Yeah, he's a little sloppy at times, but he gets the job done when it needs to be done.

garey017

LMAO that pitt offenSe is medeocre at best.  Roethlisberger is garb.  

What do you guys think of Peyton Manning's play this year? He is playing the best football of his career and some of the best QB play ever. He's my early canidite for MVP, by a landslide. Goliath_unit

Not hatin on Peyton, but by a landslide?

Manning: 156/215, 72.6%, 1880 yds, 8.74 YPA, 15 TD, 4 INT
D. Brees: 132/197, 67.0%, 1698 yds, 8.62 YPA, 14 TD, 5 INT
Roethlisberger: 164/233, 70.4%, 2062 yds, 8.85 YPA, 11 TD, 6 INT

[QUOTE="Goliath_unit"]

What do you guys think of Peyton Manning's play this year? He is playing the best football of his career and some of the best QB play ever. He's my early canidite for MVP, by a landslide. JackBurton

Not hatin on Peyton, but by a landslide?

Manning: 156/215, 72.6%, 1880 yds, 8.74 YPA, 15 TD, 4 INT
D. Brees: 132/197, 67.0%, 1698 yds, 8.62 YPA, 14 TD, 5 INT
Roethlisberger: 164/233, 70.4%, 2062 yds, 8.85 YPA, 11 TD, 6 INT

Left out some guy named Tom Brady

179/273, 65.6%, 2032 yds, 7.44 YPA, 15 TD, 4 INT

It is criminal to mention QBs and now throw in Brady especially if you throw in Big Ben.

As for Peyton Manning, i think this will be like his many years before, great stats great season, but a team in the playoffs will beat them. I think that year they won the Superbowl was the peak of the team, not Manning though he still peaking. But if they do make it there I wouldn't be surprised.

[QUOTE="Goliath_unit"]

What do you guys think of Peyton Manning's play this year? He is playing the best football of his career and some of the best QB play ever. He's my early canidite for MVP, by a landslide. JackBurton

Not hatin on Peyton, but by a landslide?

Manning: 156/215, 72.6%, 1880 yds, 8.74 YPA, 15 TD, 4 INT
D. Brees: 132/197, 67.0%, 1698 yds, 8.62 YPA, 14 TD, 5 INT
Roethlisberger: 164/233, 70.4%, 2062 yds, 8.85 YPA, 11 TD, 6 INT

I really don't think those stats say everything. Remember when he threw the pick against the Titans, and when he threw it he just looked motivated to destroy that Titans D, and he did? Incredible. He's also done it with the loss of Harrison and Anthony Gonzelez (for several weeks). He makes his receivers look great, not vise versia.

Roethlisberger has done well, but he's been behind in a lot of games so he's had to throw more than he usually would. Plus, I'm not destorying his entire season based on that one game, but he nearly threw quite a few costly picks.

Also, Manning actually doesn't have a great offensive line, yet he rarely takes sacks and he performs remarkably. I'd definetly take Manning, hands down. Brees, Roethlisburger and Brady do deserve consideration, but Manning deserves it the most. This is the finest he's ever played, and he deserves MVP (and a Super Bowl Ring).

[QUOTE="JackBurton"][QUOTE="Goliath_unit"]

What do you guys think of Peyton Manning's play this year? He is playing the best football of his career and some of the best QB play ever. He's my early canidite for MVP, by a landslide. Goliath_unit

Not hatin on Peyton, but by a landslide?

Manning: 156/215, 72.6%, 1880 yds, 8.74 YPA, 15 TD, 4 INT
D. Brees: 132/197, 67.0%, 1698 yds, 8.62 YPA, 14 TD, 5 INT
Roethlisberger: 164/233, 70.4%, 2062 yds, 8.85 YPA, 11 TD, 6 INT

I really don't think those stats say everything. Remember when he threw the pick against the Titans, and when he threw it he just looked motivated to destroy that Titans D, and he did? Incredible. He's also done it with the loss of Harrison and Anthony Gonzelez (for several weeks). He makes his receivers look great, not vise versia.

Roethlisberger has done well, but he's been behind in a lot of games so he's had to throw more than he usually would. Plus, I'm not destorying his entire season based on that one game, but he nearly threw quite a few costly picks.

Also, Manning actually doesn't have a great offensive line, yet he rarely takes sacks and he performs remarkably. I'd definetly take Manning, hands down. Brees, Roethlisburger and Brady do deserve consideration, but Manning deserves it the most. This is the finest he's ever played, and he deserves MVP (and a Super Bowl Ring).

I got a good question.

Is this year Peyton Manning playing better than the Manning that threw for 49 TD's? I think he is since he is doing it without a great Marvin Harrison and pretty much with Pierre Garcon, Collie and whoever they throw in opposite to Reggie Wayne.

Ben 3 TD passes against one of the best defenses in the league

Brees 1 against the struggling panthers.

Ben 3 TD passes against one of the best defenses in the league

Brees 1 against the struggling panthers.

CWEBB04z

Broncos pass defence is wearing down since they're all old. They're on the decline.

Panthers just came off game where they intercepted Warner 5 times. Also, Brees threw for 330 yards, while Roethisburger threw for 233, and while Brees completed just three more passes than Roethlisburger.

1. Jason Campbell

2. Ronnie Brown

3. Matthew Stafford

4. Matt Leinart

5. David Garrard

6. Jason Campbell

7. Jon Kitna

8. Vinny Testaverde

9. Jason Campbell

10. Michael Vick 

1. Jason Campbell

2. Ronnie Brown

3. Matthew Stafford

4. Matt Leinart

5. David Garrard

6. Jason Campbell

7. Jon Kitna

8. Vinny Testaverde

9. Jason Campbell

10. Michael Vick 

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