Zelda timeline revealed in Hyrule Historia?

Ok,GS is not allowing me to post the link,so check ONM site or the internet.

I doubt that 3 way thing is true mainly because they siad skyward sword is right before Ocarina of Time so that list doesn't make sense

I doubt that 3 way thing is true mainly because they siad skyward sword is right before Ocarina of Time so that list doesn't make sense

painguy1

It's the first game in the timeline, but it doesn't take place directly before SS.

As for the timeline itself, I always thought that Awakening took place after Oracles, considering at the end of the Oracles you see Link sailing away.

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I doubt that 3 way thing is true mainly because they siad skyward sword is right before Ocarina of Time so that list doesn't make sense

Legendaryscmt

It's the first game in the timeline, but it doesn't take place directly before SS.

As for the timeline itself, I always thought that Awakening took place after Oracles, considering at the end of the Oracles you see Link sailing away.

SS doesn't take place before SS? im sorry kinda confused by ur post. Anyway i still stand find this hard to believe for the reason I stated previously. They siad Skyward Sword takes place right before Ocarina.

Hmmm. I am confused. I don't understand the adult/child branches. I must be misunderstanding, because in an adult branch you are a kid? lol

yeah alot of this isn't making anysense. lets wait for more info.

Hmmm. I am confused. I don't understand the adult/child branches. I must be misunderstanding, because in an adult branch you are a kid? lol

NaveedLife

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Hmmm. I am confused. I don't understand the adult/child branches. I must be misunderstanding, because in an adult branch you are a kid? lol

AvatarMan96

I guess that makes sense...sorta. But...

[spoiler] at the end of OoT Zelda says sorry for putting you through this and makes you a kid again. So I kinda figured you were a kid either way, and MM follows that. I mean what good is ridding ganon if you he is still there in the past when you go back? [/spoiler]

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[QUOTE="painguy1"]

I doubt that 3 way thing is true mainly because they siad skyward sword is right before Ocarina of Time so that list doesn't make sense

painguy1

It's the first game in the timeline, but it doesn't take place directly before SS.

As for the timeline itself, I always thought that Awakening took place after Oracles, considering at the end of the Oracles you see Link sailing away.

SS doesn't take place before SS? im sorry kinda confused by ur post. Anyway i still stand find this hard to believe for the reason I stated previously. They siad Skyward Sword takes place right before Ocarina.

Ah, messed it up. Skyward Sword does take place before Ocarina, but not directly before it. SS is the first game in the timeline.

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[QUOTE="Legendaryscmt"]

It's the first game in the timeline, but it doesn't take place directly before SS.

As for the timeline itself, I always thought that Awakening took place after Oracles, considering at the end of the Oracles you see Link sailing away.

Legendaryscmt

SS doesn't take place before SS? im sorry kinda confused by ur post. Anyway i still stand find this hard to believe for the reason I stated previously. They siad Skyward Sword takes place right before Ocarina.

Ah, messed it up. Skyward Sword does take place before Ocarina, but not directly before it. SS is the first game in the timeline.

at the end of OoT Zelda says sorry for putting you through this and makes you a kid again. So I kinda figured you were a kid either way, and MM follows that. I mean what good is ridding ganon if you he is still there in the past when you go back?

NaveedLife

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at the end of OoT Zelda says sorry for putting you through this and makes you a kid again. So I kinda figured you were a kid either way, and MM follows that. I mean what good is ridding ganon if you he is still there in the past when you go back?

Sepewrath

I use spoiler tags for every game, since there are still people who have not played them, expecially one that just got remade. I think its wrong after any given amount of time to spoil a story ;).

As for Link failing in any of them, that just would not happen. I mean didnt you know the Link in OoT was a lazy son of a gun? :P He was prone to fail ;) lol JK obviously.

If you look at the 3 lines it makes alot of sense. Its legit

No one seems to have actually posted it

No one seems to have actually posted it

LaytonsCat

Its also full of plot holes, like the Master Sword becoming the Picori Blade Sepewrath

What?

When did the Master Sword become the Picori Blade?

The Four Sword was used to defeat Ganon in FSA right? The Four Sword came from the Picori Blade, but the only thing that can defeat Ganon is the Master Sword, so that must mean the Picori Blade was in fact the Master Sword. Sepewrath

In the original Legend of Zelda, Ganon was killed with a combination of Silver Arrows and a Sword that is not the Master Sword. There is the Wooden Sword, the White Sword, and the Magical Sword. But there is no Master Sword, yet Ganon dies.

All other instances involving Ganon / Ganondorf would likely otherwise match up that it takes the Master Sword to defeat Ganon (fully revived, anyway)if the Picori Blade was forged from the Master Sword which then evolved to the Four Sword.

But the original Legend of Zelda seems to contradict this. Have you a reasonable explanation for this?

I think that's the point I'm making, the fact it doesn't make sense, hence me using the term "plot hole". Of course when making the original Zelda, they didn't have the Master Sword in mind, but that's the problem with trying to establish a timeline at this point, so much has to be ignored for it to make sense. But with the original Zelda, they could always just say the White Sword was the Master Sword, so that one they could actually get away with.

Ganon wasn't revived in FSA, he was very much alive, in fact he had just left the Gerudo if I'm remembering correctly. But that's tough to do when he had just before that been stabbed in the chest and had his neck broken. But he was still standing, so I guess he could have been OK lol. Sepewrath

It seems like this timeline was made with the fan speculation in mind. They wanted to make it so that the real timeline was nothing that anyone had suggested before. Imo they should have just went for the 2 timelines theory.

Having said that, this third timeline is really stupid. The only reason that there could be a split timeline in Ocarina of Time is because Zelda specifically wished for Link to be able to have his childhood back. Zelda's magic was the explanation of where the 2nd timeline came from.

This third timeline was not created by magic for any purpose. It is a 'what if?' scenerio by the authors of Nintendo. Hopefully a future game creates an explanation of this. Maybe when Zelda was captured by Ganondorf he used her power to look into the future, see his death, and conjure a new timeline for himself. ugghh

I also loved the idea that the two Oracle games were occurring simultaneously in different timelines. I guess that went out the door.

It seems like this timeline was made with the fan speculation in mind. They wanted to make it so that the real timeline was nothing that anyone had suggested before. Imo they should have just went for the 2 timelines theory.

Having said that, this third timeline is really stupid. The only reason that there could be a split timeline in Ocarina of Time is because Zelda specifically wished for Link to be able to have his childhood back. Zelda's magic was the explanation of where the 2nd timeline came from.

This third timeline was not created by magic for any purpose. It is a 'what if?' scenerio by the authors of Nintendo. Hopefully a future game creates an explanation of this. Maybe when Zelda was captured by Ganondorf he used her power to look into the future, see his death, and conjure a new timeline for himself. ugghh

I also loved the idea that the two Oracle games were occurring simultaneously in different timelines. I guess that went out the door.

GunSmith1_basic

Ganon wasn't revived in FSA, he was very much alive, in fact he had just left the Gerudo if I'm remembering correctly. But that's tough to do when he had just before that been stabbed in the chest and had his neck broken. But he was still standing, so I guess he could have been OK lol. Sepewrath

It's just one big screwed up mess. 3 now.

I've yet to see evidence or a source showing this timeline here is legit.wiifan001

Well, we know the official artbook/encyclopedia is released today, so it's safe to assume the timeline would be leaked by now and I've yet to see any other ones released.

LaytonsCat

This third timeline was not created by magic for any purpose. It is a 'what if?' scenerio by the authors of Nintendo. Hopefully a future game creates an explanation of this. Maybe when Zelda was captured by Ganondorf he used her power to look into the future, see his death, and conjure a new timeline for himself. ugghhGunSmith1_basic

[QUOTE="GunSmith1_basic"]This third timeline was not created by magic for any purpose. It is a 'what if?' scenerio by the authors of Nintendo. Hopefully a future game creates an explanation of this. Maybe when Zelda was captured by Ganondorf he used her power to look into the future, see his death, and conjure a new timeline for himself. ugghhGamerForca

Here's how I see it.

The Link to the Past timeline would actually be the "original" timeline; the timeline where there is no medling with time and Link doesn't go in to the future during Ocarina of Time, so there's no split at all. When he takes the sword that's the original split of two timelines, and then the third one is created when Link goes back to be a child again at the end of the game.And the more I think about it, the more it makes sense. A Link to the Past talks about the Imprisoning War, which sounds an awful lot like the events of Ocarina of Time except for a few key differences that can mostly be accounted for if Link does not get all time-travelly and gets the Master Sword.

It's no less of a "what if" as any other split timeline theory.

It's no less of a "what if" as any other split timeline theory.

_BlueDuck_

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It's no less of a "what if" as any other split timeline theory.

GamerForca

We also saw Link go back to his childhood at the end of the game but that doesn't mean that his adult timeline doesn't still theoretically go on.

And I'd argue the Link to the Past timeline is just a continuation of the original, young Link in Ocarina of Time. Link needs to go into the future to defeat Ganon, which creates a new timeline. What happens to young Link? He can't do anything unless he goes into the future. We can even put the Master Sword back and return to the childhood in the game, but he is powerless. I see this timeline as the continuation of that story. If we can accept that the timeline is split when Link goes back at the end of Ocarina of Time, we can also accept that the timeline is split when he first goes into the future. So even if Link gets the Master Sword, in that original timeline he still just kind of dissapears and there's no hero to save the day.

Regardless though, that's the beauty of fiction, it let's us explore all kinds of questions and hypothetical what ifs. I don't see a problem with it.

Yeah I'm rather curious if this is official, it could be Nintendo testing the waters with something they didn't say official so if people react negatively, they can say its unofficial. Sepewrath

My initial reaction to this supposed "3 branched" timeline is a negative reaction.

But I will cross examine and investigate before my final verdict be it through contradiction, understandment, or inconclusive.

There is so much wrong information in this thread....

In Ocarina of Time, you had two endings: one before Link went ahead 7 years where he went back and met Zelda. However, when he went forward and defeated Ganondorf with the Master Sword, that created an alternate universe where Ganondorf was sealed into the Dark Realm.

He was sealed in the Sacred Realm not the Dark Realm.

at the end of OoT Zelda says sorry for putting you through this and makes you a kid again. So I kinda figured you were a kid either way, and MM follows that. I mean what good is ridding ganon if you he is still there in the past when you go back?

After Link goes back to the child timelin Ganon is put on trial and is sent to execution; however, they couldn't do it, so they had to seal him in the twilight realm.

im pretty sure it's right before. The master sword isn't randomly gonna turn into the piccori blade then turn into the four sword then turn right back into the master sword. it would make sense for those two games to take place after wind waker or spirit tracks or w/e IMO since teh master sword is gone.

You're right it's not and it never will mainly because they're two distinct swords.The goddess sword (Skyward Sword) turns into the Master Sword and the Picori Blade turns into the Four Sword.

The Four Sword was used to defeat Ganon in FSA right? The Four Sword came from the Picori Blade, but the only thing that can defeat Ganon is the Master Sword, so that must mean the Picori Blade was in fact the Master Sword. There's also the issue of the Ganon timeline, what exactly did Link fail at?

The Four Sword didn't defeat Ganon it sealed him away...

We also saw Link go back to his childhood at the end of the game but that doesn't mean that his adult timeline doesn't still theoretically go on.

And I'd argue the Link to the Past timeline is just a continuation of the original, young Link in Ocarina of Time. Link needs to go into the future to defeat Ganon, which creates a new timeline. What happens to young Link? He can't do anything unless he goes into the future. We can even put the Master Sword back and return to the childhood in the game, but he is powerless. I see this timeline as the continuation of that story. If we can accept that the timeline is split when Link goes back at the end of Ocarina of Time, we can also accept that the timeline is split when he first goes into the future. So even if Link gets the Master Sword, in that original timeline he still just kind of dissapears and there's no hero to save the day.

Regardless though, that's the beauty of fiction, it let's us explore all kinds of questions and hypothetical what ifs. I don't see a problem with it.

_BlueDuck_

I don't know how I feel about that timeline theory. Why does only the first time Link goes forward in time create a new timeline? I thought the new timeline was not made by the act of time travelling but by Zelda out of compassion. I suppose moving through time created only one extra timeline because they were identical anyway, but then again they weren't completely identical.

Besides, there wasn't much question about what happened to the young Link who first went forward through time. He was doing the kind of time travel that we might be able to do some day: just freeze ourselves and wake up in the future. Pulling out the master sword opened up a door to the Sacred Realm where Link was kept there and then depositted in the future. He aged because I suppose that's just how the Sacred Realm holds a person

After Link goes back to the child timelin Ganon is put on trial and is sent to execution; however, they couldn't do it, so they had to seal him in the twilight realm.

Minishdriveby

This part I do not understand with the new timeline. By going back in time to give Link his childhood, they seem to have dropped off Link at the moment where he first met Zelda in the castle without Impa. At that point Ganondorf didn't have the Triforce of Power so it would be an easy thing to execute him or imprison him

If Ganon did have the Triforce then why did they make a new timeline where the Sages try to take on a full powered Ganondorf??? Did child Link help? He couldn't even use Light Arrows and didn't have the Master Sword

It's going to be about 70 pages in the book. Of course, it's going to make more sense reading all of it, with more details given (already shown on the preview page). And even looking at it now makes sense. The old games can't fit in there, since OoT was a prequel to them, but Aonuma then made sequels for OoT. So the old games are basically a ,what if' scenario if you really want to link them to the rest of the series. Only Minish Cap and Four Swords (Adventures) look awkward right now.

at the end of OoT Zelda says sorry for putting you through this and makes you a kid again. So I kinda figured you were a kid either way, and MM follows that. I mean what good is ridding ganon if you he is still there in the past when you go back?

After Link goes back to the child timelin Ganon is put on trial and is sent to execution; however, they couldn't do it, so they had to seal him in the twilight realm.

Minishdriveby

Timeline discussions are always so ridiculous. So you're saying that these

Are the same as these?

:|

I for one don't have a real problem with this,they fixed it.

The FS saga placement does seem weird though...

+LA after Oracles?

Really?

@meetoid8, after 100s maybe 1000s of years yes.

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at the end of OoT Zelda says sorry for putting you through this and makes you a kid again. So I kinda figured you were a kid either way, and MM follows that. I mean what good is ridding ganon if you he is still there in the past when you go back?

After Link goes back to the child timelin Ganon is put on trial and is sent to execution; however, they couldn't do it, so they had to seal him in the twilight realm.

meetroid8

Timeline discussions are always so ridiculous. So you're saying that these

Are the same as these?

:|

[QUOTE="Minishdriveby"]

at the end of OoT Zelda says sorry for putting you through this and makes you a kid again. So I kinda figured you were a kid either way, and MM follows that. I mean what good is ridding ganon if you he is still there in the past when you go back?

After Link goes back to the child timelin Ganon is put on trial and is sent to execution; however, they couldn't do it, so they had to seal him in the twilight realm.

meetroid8

Timeline discussions are always so ridiculous. So you're saying that these

Are the same as these?

:|

wind waker follows the adult timeline, and you get to see both a zora and a kokiri sage, probably descendants from saria and ruto (my guess).