Official 2010 NBA Free Agency (UPDATED: Shaq Signs With Celtics)

Wonder if we'll see some more of this from Ron Ron vs. Pierce: 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FD796H08J7w

super dope sig and avatar Orlando...penny used to be the **** back in the day

I see the big key to the series being the Celts bench, which is a lot less deep than it was in 2008. Not too mention Artest is gonna be on Paul, which will cut down on Paul's ability to control the game. Rando is so much better than he was in 2008. Kobe is more banged up, but he's super focused. If Kobe, Pau, and Artest play 40+ mins a game, it might put the Celts on edge, cause they don't have a deep enough bench to deal with that much of those 3. I don't see KG or Pierce being able to play that much each game . . . esp. KG.fat_rob

and LOL at pheonix losing again, i love it. steve nash is such an overrated player. He will NEVER EVER win a championship as long as he is the best player on whatever team he is on. its just never gonna happen, just like Dirk. those guys aren't franchise players that you can build a championship winner around. i sure do love watching them lose though

[QUOTE="fat_rob"]I see the big key to the series being the Celts bench, which is a lot less deep than it was in 2008. Not too mention Artest is gonna be on Paul, which will cut down on Paul's ability to control the game. Rando is so much better than he was in 2008. Kobe is more banged up, but he's super focused. If Kobe, Pau, and Artest play 40+ mins a game, it might put the Celts on edge, cause they don't have a deep enough bench to deal with that much of those 3. I don't see KG or Pierce being able to play that much each game . . . esp. KG.mems_1224

and LOL at pheonix losing again, i love it. steve nash is such an overrated player. He will NEVER EVER win a championship as long as he is the best player on whatever team he is on. its just never gonna happen, just like Dirk. those guys aren't franchise players that you can build a championship winner around. i sure do love watching them lose though

if by putting up his MVP numbers at age 36 is overrated, I'll take it.  You could also argue Amar'e is the best player on the Suns..

[QUOTE="Toriko42"][QUOTE="andyboiii"]

Celtics better be prepared. This isn't the 2008 Lakers they're going up against

elpooz

Not to mention they've got a new aresenal on the bench more then capable to pick it up as proven already thru Davis, Robinson, Sheed, etc. 

AND RONDO

Regular season performance means practically nothing in the playoffs... the 16 that are coming in are coming into an entirely different atmosphere and level of play. That being said, the Celtics having worse records than the Cavs and Magic but beating them doesn't count for much... post-season teams are 10x different than their regular-season counterparts. And even looking at regular season records, the Celtics weren't that far behind either of those teams really... 

Anyway, if you think the Celtics are taking a championship against one of the best teams of this decade because of Davis (lol), Robinson (lol, one semi-big game) and mr. ball don't lie (aka mr. inconsistent as hell), I don't know what to tell you. Odom > your whole bench. Farmar > Robinson. And our starters take some dookies on yours... Only thing I'm even worried about from you offensively is Pierce, and Rondo to a good extent. I'm almost certain Fisher can contain him decently, considering the great defense he played on both Nash and Williams... And Pierce... well, he'll hit, but if you think he'll be answering Kobe offensively, you've got your hopes too high. Overall though, our team is just way different. Bynum being in the paint is going to be a BIG factor (I'm still convinced that him not being there, + our lack of focus late in the series, is why we lost two seasons ago) simply because of his size and strength. Our bench has had extreme energy and their running game is going to confuse your defense on transition quite a bit. And speaking of defense, I wouldn't be surprised if Artest reduced Pierce to just an okay scorer like he did with Durant. Pierce is a great player, but watching the games against the Cavs and the Magic, most of his points came off of easy catch-and-shoots that he was handed by the defense. If the Lakers focus, he won't be getting those easy corner jumpers or open threes...

Lakers in 7. 

Celtics are better than they were in 08. They took out the Cavs, the favorite to take it all, and Orlando. 

Celtics in 6

[QUOTE="mems_1224"]

[QUOTE="fat_rob"]I see the big key to the series being the Celts bench, which is a lot less deep than it was in 2008. Not too mention Artest is gonna be on Paul, which will cut down on Paul's ability to control the game. Rando is so much better than he was in 2008. Kobe is more banged up, but he's super focused. If Kobe, Pau, and Artest play 40+ mins a game, it might put the Celts on edge, cause they don't have a deep enough bench to deal with that much of those 3. I don't see KG or Pierce being able to play that much each game . . . esp. KG.Apocalypse33

and LOL at pheonix losing again, i love it. steve nash is such an overrated player. He will NEVER EVER win a championship as long as he is the best player on whatever team he is on. its just never gonna happen, just like Dirk. those guys aren't franchise players that you can build a championship winner around. i sure do love watching them lose though

if by putting up his MVP numbers at age 36 is overrated, I'll take it.  You could also argue Amar'e is the best player on the Suns..

[QUOTE="Apocalypse33"][QUOTE="mems_1224"]

[QUOTE="fat_rob"]I see the big key to the series being the Celts bench, which is a lot less deep than it was in 2008. Not too mention Artest is gonna be on Paul, which will cut down on Paul's ability to control the game. Rando is so much better than he was in 2008. Kobe is more banged up, but he's super focused. If Kobe, Pau, and Artest play 40+ mins a game, it might put the Celts on edge, cause they don't have a deep enough bench to deal with that much of those 3. I don't see KG or Pierce being able to play that much each game . . . esp. KG.mems_1224

and LOL at pheonix losing again, i love it. steve nash is such an overrated player. He will NEVER EVER win a championship as long as he is the best player on whatever team he is on. its just never gonna happen, just like Dirk. those guys aren't franchise players that you can build a championship winner around. i sure do love watching them lose though

if by putting up his MVP numbers at age 36 is overrated, I'll take it.  You could also argue Amar'e is the best player on the Suns..

[QUOTE="elpooz"][QUOTE="Toriko42"][QUOTE="andyboiii"]

Celtics better be prepared. This isn't the 2008 Lakers they're going up against

Toriko42

Not to mention they've got a new aresenal on the bench more then capable to pick it up as proven already thru Davis, Robinson, Sheed, etc. 

AND RONDO

Regular season performance means practically nothing in the playoffs... the 16 that are coming in are coming into an entirely different atmosphere and level of play. That being said, the Celtics having worse records than the Cavs and Magic but beating them doesn't count for much... post-season teams are 10x different than their regular-season counterparts. And even looking at regular season records, the Celtics weren't that far behind either of those teams really... 

Anyway, if you think the Celtics are taking a championship against one of the best teams of this decade because of Davis (lol), Robinson (lol, one semi-big game) and mr. ball don't lie (aka mr. inconsistent as hell), I don't know what to tell you. Odom > your whole bench. Farmar > Robinson. And our starters take some dookies on yours... Only thing I'm even worried about from you offensively is Pierce, and Rondo to a good extent. I'm almost certain Fisher can contain him decently, considering the great defense he played on both Nash and Williams... And Pierce... well, he'll hit, but if you think he'll be answering Kobe offensively, you've got your hopes too high. Overall though, our team is just way different. Bynum being in the paint is going to be a BIG factor (I'm still convinced that him not being there, + our lack of focus late in the series, is why we lost two seasons ago) simply because of his size and strength. Our bench has had extreme energy and their running game is going to confuse your defense on transition quite a bit. And speaking of defense, I wouldn't be surprised if Artest reduced Pierce to just an okay scorer like he did with Durant. Pierce is a great player, but watching the games against the Cavs and the Magic, most of his points came off of easy catch-and-shoots that he was handed by the defense. If the Lakers focus, he won't be getting those easy corner jumpers or open threes...

Lakers in 7. 

Celtics are better than they were in 08. They took out the Cavs, the favorite to take it all, and Orlando. 

Celtics in 6

No, really, they're not at all... We took down a BETTER Orlando team in 4-1 last year, and would have rocked both them and the Cavs this year as well. I don't know how, as a Boston fan, you can say that these Celts are better than the ones in 08... 

[QUOTE="mems_1224"][QUOTE="Apocalypse33"][QUOTE="mems_1224"]

[QUOTE="fat_rob"]I see the big key to the series being the Celts bench, which is a lot less deep than it was in 2008. Not too mention Artest is gonna be on Paul, which will cut down on Paul's ability to control the game. Rando is so much better than he was in 2008. Kobe is more banged up, but he's super focused. If Kobe, Pau, and Artest play 40+ mins a game, it might put the Celts on edge, cause they don't have a deep enough bench to deal with that much of those 3. I don't see KG or Pierce being able to play that much each game . . . esp. KG.Apocalypse33

and LOL at pheonix losing again, i love it. steve nash is such an overrated player. He will NEVER EVER win a championship as long as he is the best player on whatever team he is on. its just never gonna happen, just like Dirk. those guys aren't franchise players that you can build a championship winner around. i sure do love watching them lose though

if by putting up his MVP numbers at age 36 is overrated, I'll take it.  You could also argue Amar'e is the best player on the Suns..

so i guess they're never wrong huh...i mean dirk definitely desereved his the year he got bounced out of the first round

[QUOTE="Apocalypse33"][QUOTE="mems_1224"][QUOTE="Apocalypse33"][QUOTE="mems_1224"]

[QUOTE="fat_rob"]I see the big key to the series being the Celts bench, which is a lot less deep than it was in 2008. Not too mention Artest is gonna be on Paul, which will cut down on Paul's ability to control the game. Rando is so much better than he was in 2008. Kobe is more banged up, but he's super focused. If Kobe, Pau, and Artest play 40+ mins a game, it might put the Celts on edge, cause they don't have a deep enough bench to deal with that much of those 3. I don't see KG or Pierce being able to play that much each game . . . esp. KG.mems_1224

and LOL at pheonix losing again, i love it. steve nash is such an overrated player. He will NEVER EVER win a championship as long as he is the best player on whatever team he is on. its just never gonna happen, just like Dirk. those guys aren't franchise players that you can build a championship winner around. i sure do love watching them lose though

if by putting up his MVP numbers at age 36 is overrated, I'll take it.  You could also argue Amar'e is the best player on the Suns..

so i guess they're never wrong huh...i mean dirk definitely desereved his the year he got bounced out of the first round

MVP is a regular season award....playoffs should have no bearing on them at all, granted they usually only go to players on playoff bound teams.  Still the award is for performance during the regular season.  You are saying they were wrong two years in a row.Apocalypse33

they're wrong most of the time. if you actually watched basketball you might know that

they're wrong most of the time. if you actually watched basketball you might know thatmems_1224

there have been other huge snubs...CP3 deserved it the year New Orleans made a serious title run.

if playoffs should have no bearing on them at all, then why does it always go to players on playoff bound teams? your logic is terribly flawed....as is the inconveniant time in which the voters get to vote.Colt45fool

not always do their teams go to the playoffs, but usually, I don't necesarily agree with that logic.  I just know that is how it works.  But I firmly believe only regular season performance should have bearing on that award.

[QUOTE="Colt45fool"]if playoffs should have no bearing on them at all, then why does it always go to players on playoff bound teams? your logic is terribly flawed....as is the inconveniant time in which the voters get to vote.Apocalypse33

not always do their teams go to the playoffs, but usually, I don't necesarily agree with that logic. I just know that is how it works. But I firmly believe only regular season performance should have bearing on that award.

if that's how it works, then they should include the playoffs also. clearly the only people winning the award are people who are going to the post season anyways...

[QUOTE="Apocalypse33"]

[QUOTE="Colt45fool"]if playoffs should have no bearing on them at all, then why does it always go to players on playoff bound teams? your logic is terribly flawed....as is the inconveniant time in which the voters get to vote.Colt45fool

not always do their teams go to the playoffs, but usually, I don't necesarily agree with that logic. I just know that is how it works. But I firmly believe only regular season performance should have bearing on that award.

if that's how it works, then they should include the playoffs also. clearly the only people winning the award are people who are going to the post season anyways...

[QUOTE="mems_1224"][QUOTE="Apocalypse33"][QUOTE="mems_1224"]

[QUOTE="fat_rob"]I see the big key to the series being the Celts bench, which is a lot less deep than it was in 2008. Not too mention Artest is gonna be on Paul, which will cut down on Paul's ability to control the game. Rando is so much better than he was in 2008. Kobe is more banged up, but he's super focused. If Kobe, Pau, and Artest play 40+ mins a game, it might put the Celts on edge, cause they don't have a deep enough bench to deal with that much of those 3. I don't see KG or Pierce being able to play that much each game . . . esp. KG.Apocalypse33

and LOL at pheonix losing again, i love it. steve nash is such an overrated player. He will NEVER EVER win a championship as long as he is the best player on whatever team he is on. its just never gonna happen, just like Dirk. those guys aren't franchise players that you can build a championship winner around. i sure do love watching them lose though

if by putting up his MVP numbers at age 36 is overrated, I'll take it.  You could also argue Amar'e is the best player on the Suns..

Mems is right, Nash didn't deserve either MVP award.... Shaq deserved it in 05 and Kobe deserved it in 06. Most overrated MVP player ever....

As for the Finals, this is gonna be fun. Gonna be tough series, chippy. I got my Lakers in 6, I think homecourt is gonna be huge. We could have won 2 years ago if not for the huge brain fart in game 4, still makes me mad to this day.

hey halftime...

since I know this is the only thread you consistently post in...tell me what you think of this song...not saying it's a good song or a bad song, just tell me what you think. Is it good? Is it bad? What does it remind you of if anything...Apoc and I have a little debate going on ;)

Based on the Draft Measurements that came out Greg Monroe can play center in the NBA...

and Demarcus Cousins in huge. 6'11" 290 lbs...

http://www.draftexpress.com/nba-pre-draft-measurements/?year=2010&sort2=DESC&draft=&pos=&sort=3 

And I bet Petrie tries to play him at Center...christ...

Greg Monroe as the 5th overall pick is pretty much a given at this point.

:lol: at Chris Rock

when Kobe is in the zone, he's in the zone

I know its the NBA Finals but did you guys see the covers of the new SLAM Magazine that just went on sale....

wow 

I can see Wade on the Bulls... but I dunno about that Lebron picture...

If one of them goes to Chicago, I think it will be Lebron... but I wouldn't be too surprised if he stuck with the Cavs. 

Watch the Lakers get another win against the Celtics! Steve Nash celebrated on Thursday when the Lakers took Game 1!

here's how i think this will go down.

lebron: ny
wade: chi
bosh: ny
amare: phx
dirk: dal
jj: miami
rubbersouI

I need Game 2 already... mad pumped right now. Game 1 had me yelling and jumping off my couch non-stop... let's hope my Lakers deliver and bring that same intensity. elpooz

Celtics will bring it anyways. Remember that horrific loss they had against the magic, then they came back on fiyah

Celtics will win in a nailbiter. I can't watch it though cause I have an exam tomorrow :cry:

That game was far from boring, anyone who says that is a straight up Lakers hater. No basketball fan would have disliked that beautiful walton-to-bynum pass and bynum's slam (or any of his nasty dunks that night), Kobe's dunk off the steal, Kobe's alley off the BLOCK (which, in itself, was amazing), Rondo's buzzer beater (I hate the Celtics and this had my jaw dropping..), Artest stuffing Davis and then recovering the ball ( :| MONSTER) or Gasol squishing Rondo with that huge block/steal. I'm sure if you had won, you'd be saying it was an entertaining game lol.. learn to appreciate more than just your band of angry, egotistic players... the Celtics couldn't BUY class or sportsmanship. elpooz

And no, I can admit an entertaining game win or lose. The first time Orlando won against the Celtics was one of the dopest game I've ever seen live. 

Either way, we'll see how it goes tonight. I hope to catch the last half.

Yes because he is such an evident part of our team... you know, he makes the press go nuts, he gets tons of minutes :lol:. that was weak toriko, come on now... just accept that your team is full of PO'd bums with anger management issues that are way too cocky. I'm sorry the team I support knows what respect is ;)elpooz

the lakers are not fun to watchrubbersouI

[QUOTE="elpooz"]Yes because he is such an evident part of our team... you know, he makes the press go nuts, he gets tons of minutes :lol:. that was weak toriko, come on now... just accept that your team is full of PO'd bums with anger management issues that are way too cocky. I'm sorry the team I support knows what respect is ;)Toriko42

If any other team in the NBA deserves their respect, it's the Lakers, so wtf :|?

[QUOTE="rubbersouI"]the lakers are not fun to watchColt45fool

If you think that foul on Kobe on the bank was a good call, you're nuts ^. Gasol's fouls have been BS as well...

I'm going to laugh if the Celtics take this one and everyone talks about how much they fixed their game up... it's a one man show out there, if it wasn't for Allen's 3 pointers, they would be getting it handed to them again lol...