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#1 SaintWalrus
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1. If God created everything, who created GOD?

Answer: God created time, thus the beginning does not apply to him, because he created it.


2. If the earth is only 10,000 years old, explain starlight and how it takes billions of years to reach earth


Answer: God created that light in transit.


3. Why is the Old testament God so evil? (I.E why did he maul 42 children with bears?)


You must remember that My god...OUR god is a kind and wonderful God. And like us, our God is a jealous God. He also is a forgiving God. He saw the error of his ways and gladly changed. And those children deserved their wrath. God warned them and they disobeyed God. And so God sent his wrath upon the wicked.

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#2 Serraph105
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I wish that people would stop making religion threads.

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#3 Krelian-co
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1. If God created everything, who created GOD?

Answer: God created time, thus the beginning does not apply to him, because he created it.


2. If the earth is only 10,000 years old, explain starlight and how it takes billions of years to reach earth


Answer: God created that light in transit.


3. Why is the Old testament God so evil? (I.E why did he maul 42 children with bears?)


You must remember that My god...OUR god is a kind and wonderful God. And like us, our God is a jealous God. He also is a forgiving God. He saw the error of his ways and gladly changed. And those children deserved their wrath. God warned them and they disobeyed God. And so God sent his wrath upon the wicked.

SaintWalrus

leaving the obvious nonsense that your post contains to any sane logical person the parts i colored red i found them just lol. Great arguments, nice god.

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#4 Tylendal
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1. God created himself? o_O 2. God is messing with us? 3. That's not an argument, it's a question, and you refuted nothing, if anything, you helped confirm it.
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#5 Shottayouth13-
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:lol: And I'm not even an atheist! :lol:
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#6 taterfrickintot
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I wish that people would stop making religion threads.

Serraph105
This.
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#7 Chris_Williams
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[QUOTE="Serraph105"]

I wish that people would stop making religion threads.

taterfrickintot
This.

This.
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#8 FMAB_GTO
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Well at least you tried I guess.....
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#9 rocinante_
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your third point made me lol really hard. troll...unsuccessful? :lol:

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#10 Zeviander
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This thread is a waste of bandwidth and electricity.
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#11 FMAB_GTO
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He saw the error of his ways SaintWalrus
wait what?
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#12 XilePrincess
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I thought god was supposed to be perfect? You don't 'realize the error of your ways' and change when you're perfect. You can make up an answer for anything to rationalize it. It doesn't mean it has any factual backing whatsoever. It's the same thing as, oh wait, EVERY MOVIE EVER where unanswerable things happen. You can make up answers and you can't prove them and they can't be disproven because there is no answer. Except here, and like every other religious argument, where pulling things out of your ass is a completely valid argument tactic in terms of God.
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#13 bigfoot2045
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I wish that people would stop making religion threads.

Serraph105

Agreed. Most of them are pretty dumb.

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#14 SaintWalrus
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[QUOTE="XilePrincess"]I thought god was supposed to be perfect? You don't 'realize the error of your ways' and change when you're perfect. You can make up an answer for anything to rationalize it. It doesn't mean it has any factual backing whatsoever. It's the same thing as, oh wait, EVERY MOVIE EVER where unanswerable things happen. You can make up answers and you can't prove them and they can't be disproven because there is no answer. Except here, and like every other religious argument, where pulling things out of your ass is a completely valid argument tactic in terms of God.

He knew that he'd have to change one day He already knew and planned it out accordingly Thus he is still perfect.
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Your font size is large so you must be correct.
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#17 FMAB_GTO
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[QUOTE="SaintWalrus"][QUOTE="XilePrincess"]I thought god was supposed to be perfect? You don't 'realize the error of your ways' and change when you're perfect. You can make up an answer for anything to rationalize it. It doesn't mean it has any factual backing whatsoever. It's the same thing as, oh wait, EVERY MOVIE EVER where unanswerable things happen. You can make up answers and you can't prove them and they can't be disproven because there is no answer. Except here, and like every other religious argument, where pulling things out of your ass is a completely valid argument tactic in terms of God.

He knew that he'd have to change one day He already knew and planned it out accordingly Thus he is still perfect.

Are you saying GOD have psychological problems?o__O
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#18 eboyishere
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I wish that people would stop making religion threads.

Serraph105

this

as a christian im even tired of it. Your not changing people's opinion

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#19 ZumaJones07
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actually, the real reason the earth is young is because god reversed time (while maintaining space) a few times during earth's history.
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#20 almasdeathchild
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no god is a douche

and sending me to hell wouldnt punish me satan(mr evil) wouldnt punish the wicket wtf?:lol:

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#21 Zeviander
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Your not changing people's opinioneboyishere
Maybe not with a single thread, but any amount of discussion can implant the seed of doubt. I cannot count how many users I've seen over the years drastically change their beliefs... mine included. I don't doubt some of them were influenced in some way by this community and the discussions had here. This kind of canned statement is as bad as the OP's waste of bandwidth.
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#22 theone86
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1. If God created everything, who created GOD?

Answer: God created time, thus the beginning does not apply to him, because he created it.


2. If the earth is only 10,000 years old, explain starlight and how it takes billions of years to reach earth


Answer: God created that light in transit.


3. Why is the Old testament God so evil? (I.E why did he maul 42 children with bears?)


You must remember that My god...OUR god is a kind and wonderful God. And like us, our God is a jealous God. He also is a forgiving God. He saw the error of his ways and gladly changed. And those children deserved their wrath. God warned them and they disobeyed God. And so God sent his wrath upon the wicked.

SaintWalrus

This is a really horrible post. For one, atheists don't use this first argument against god, at least not smart atheists and not in the way you presented it. The correct argument starts with the theist arguing that every effect has a cause, therefore there MUST be a first cause. The atheist then debunks that argument because it is self-refuting. Your premise is fine in theory, but it runs counter to the theist argument. If god created time then not everything has a first cause, ergo god's existence is not necessary. As a further critique, saying "god did it, it doesn't need an explanation," as a rebuttal to every critique isn't very effective. Sure it's possible, but anyone can pull any crazy guess about anything out of their rear ends, doesn't make it a sound argument.

Okay, god created that light in transit so, why, so we would THINK that the universe is billions of years old when it's only thousands of years old, even though he WANTS us to believe that it's only thousands of years old, and even though thinking according to the natural capacities that HE gave us will lead us to believe it's billions of years old and probably to not believe in him, even though he WANTS us to believe in him. Awesome reasoning, there, by a supposedly omnipotent being, sounds a lot more like a spoiled child.

Here's the best one, you say god is kind and then say he isn't kind, way to refute yourself! Makes about as much sense as saying that a kind god would make eternal salvation contingent on our belief in him, then turn around and make all the evidence point to his abscence.

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#23 Brozekial
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Fail troll.
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#24 XilePrincess
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[QUOTE="SaintWalrus"] He knew that he'd have to change one day He already knew and planned it out accordingly Thus he is still perfect.

I guess these threads are how we out the dinguses in society and mark them for prompt snuffing out.
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#25 VaguelyTagged
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your god is witty,i'd hang out with him..on a really slow sunday.

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#26 TopTierHustler
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Not sure if stupid or if troll.

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#27 FelipeInside
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AND IDIOTS like this guy is why the Logical Religious People get a bad rep.... way to go dude.

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#28 ZIVX
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Okay, god created that light in transit so, why, so we would THINK that the universe is billions of years old when it's only thousands of years old, even though he WANTS us to believe that it's only thousands of years old, and even though thinking according to the natural capacities that HE gave us will lead us to believe it's billions of years old and probably to not believe in him, even though he WANTS us to believe in him. Awesome reasoning, there, by a supposedly omnipotent being, sounds a lot more like a spoiled child.

theone86

wow that's a pretty good arguement first time I've heard of it

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#29 chaoscougar1
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lol Oh this is disgraceful You should feel bad Walrus
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#30 Philokalia
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You'll just make them think they are smarter. Which was probably your intention.

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#31 wis3boi
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You'll just make them think they are smarter. Which was probably your intention.

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#32 8-Bitterness
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My answer to those would be god is a big pooface and he must have his necktie peed on.
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#33 punkpunker
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i dont know why do some christians believe that the earth is 10000 years old :lol:

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#34 wis3boi
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i dont know why do some christians believe that the earth is 10000 years old :lol:

punkpunker
I dunno, ask AussiePet....who thinks its 6k years old and was split in two and rebuilt :cry:
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#35 FMAB_GTO
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[QUOTE="punkpunker"]

i dont know why do some christians believe that the earth is 10000 years old :lol:

wis3boi
I dunno, ask AussiePet....who thinks its 6k years old and was split in two and rebuilt :cry:

Science is wonderful thing eh :P
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#36 FelipeInside
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[QUOTE="wis3boi"][QUOTE="punkpunker"]

i dont know why do some christians believe that the earth is 10000 years old :lol:

FMAB_GTO
I dunno, ask AussiePet....who thinks its 6k years old and was split in two and rebuilt :cry:

Science is wonderful thing eh :P

But to be realistic, no one knows how old it really is...
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#37 Vaultboy-101
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AND IDIOTS like this guy is why the Logical Religious People get a bad rep.... way to go dude.

FelipeInside

Logical religious people? There's such a creature in existence?

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#38 GrayF0X786
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OUR god is a jealous God


He saw the error of his ways and gladly changed.


SaintWalrus

Thats not God. Thats your way of seeing a Blonde man with blue eyes taking the form of God from a Roman pagan God concept then forming your own storys around it. im getting fkin fed up with people making God into a human.....:x

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#39 GrayF0X786
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[QUOTE="FelipeInside"]

AND IDIOTS like this guy is why the Logical Religious People get a bad rep.... way to go dude.

Vaultboy-101

Logical religious people? There's such a creature in existence?

theres also the ignorant people like you.

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#40 FelipeInside
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[QUOTE="FelipeInside"]

AND IDIOTS like this guy is why the Logical Religious People get a bad rep.... way to go dude.

Vaultboy-101

Logical religious people? There's such a creature in existence?

Yep, im such a creature.
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#41 FMAB_GTO
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[QUOTE="FelipeInside"][QUOTE="FMAB_GTO"][QUOTE="wis3boi"] I dunno, ask AussiePet....who thinks its 6k years old and was split in two and rebuilt :cry:

Science is wonderful thing eh :P

But to be realistic, no one knows how old it really is...

yeah,but some evidence already showed that it is more than 6k years old at least. Who knows?
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#43 Hatiko
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[QUOTE="FelipeInside"][QUOTE="FMAB_GTO"] Science is wonderful thing eh :PFMAB_GTO
But to be realistic, no one knows how old it really is...

yeah,but some evidence already showed that it is more than 6k years old at least. Who knows?

My friend the dinosaur told me he was the first one, he's only 10 years old. Crap, we have been made up memories!

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#44 chaoscougar1
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[QUOTE="FelipeInside"][QUOTE="FMAB_GTO"][QUOTE="wis3boi"] I dunno, ask AussiePet....who thinks its 6k years old and was split in two and rebuilt :cry:

Science is wonderful thing eh :P

But to be realistic, no one knows how old it really is...

About 4.5 billion years
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#45 Ninja-Hippo
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Obvious troll thread is obvious.
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#47 FMAB_GTO
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[QUOTE="FMAB_GTO"][QUOTE="FelipeInside"] But to be realistic, no one knows how old it really is...Hatiko

yeah,but some evidence already showed that it is more than 6k years old at least. Who knows?

My friend the dinosaur told me he was the first one, he's only 10 years old. Crap, we have been made up memories!

uhh...what?
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#48 poptart
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God created 'light in transit' to fool us into thinking the earth is older than it actually is? I can only assume that was the old testament god before he matured a bit the little trickster. Stiill he's paying the price now what with the all these atheists running amok... In fact it would make more sense to suggest the devil made these beams of light when god had one of his infinite number of backs turned. The devils beams of light made atheists as without them they'd be in a pickle.

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#49 GazaAli
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1 and 2 are ok, but 3? Seriously?
And I'm not even an atheist.

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#50 SaintWalrus
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God created 'light in transit' to fool us into thinking the earth is older than it actually is? I can only assume that was the old testament god before he matured a bit the little trickster. Stiill he's paying the price now what with the all these atheists running amok... In fact it would make more sense to suggest the devil made these beams of light when god had one of his infinite number of backs turned. The devils beams of light made atheists as without them they'd be in a pickle.

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GOD MADE LIGHT IN TRANSIT SO HUMANS COULD HAVE LIGHT IN THE NIGHT SKY GOD DAMN IT IT'S NOT THAT HARD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!