9/11; What really happened?

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#1 knowledge-funk
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I know that this topic has been brought up countless times everywhere, but it is brought up for a reason.

The following is simply an orientation, introducing the arguement, but not yet the idea.

The Two-Step 9/11 Truth Expedition

Understanding the full truth of 9/11 seems to require two separate awakenings.

The first, awakening to the fraudulence of the "official 9/11 story," is a pretty simple brain function and only requires a little study, logic or curiosity. We can help a lot with that part here and it's a major purpose of this site.

The second step, however, consciously confronting the implications of that knowledge--and what it says about our media, politics and economic system today--is by far the harder awakening and requires an enormous exercise of nerve and heart. (As the Chinese say, "You cannot wake up a man who is pretending to sleep.") In other words, this part of the journey depends more on character than on maps and evidence so we can't help you much here, except to point out inspiring heroes and heroines who have courageously faced that truth, spoken out, and survived. (Though we might also point out the intriguing fact that our 9/11 heroines now outnumber 9/11 heroes by about six to one.)

The 911Truth.org Mission: Where we are going with this and where we are not

Although our members and friends in the truth movement hold a variety of opinions about what actually happened on September 11, 2001, 911truth.org as an organization generally believes that our chance for justice is now best served by focusing on the following five points:

The frequently warned of 9/11 attacks handed a lackluster presidency irresistible political power to increase inequality, repression, corporate domination, and imperial warfare (and even boost its electoral clout);

Since this administration benefited so mightily from these crimes, a reasonable person (or investigation) might find it prudent to at least question its possible complicity. Even the minimalist LIHOP (Let It Happen On Purpose) complicity scenario constitutes high treason--i.e., the supposition that high officials knew a blowback attack was coming, understood the incredible poltical power it might confer, and preemptively disabled the few working parts of government that might have been able to thwart its success (by ignoring foreign warnings, quashing domestic investigations, cancelling Counterterrorism Task Force meetings, rewriting air emergency response protocols, staging distracting aerial war games, etc.)

There is now more than enough compelling evidence of just such official misconduct, foul play, perjury and obstruction of justice to constitute probable cause for a full criminal investigation of all 9/11 events;

Despite continuing avoidance of this issue by our Congress, major parties and corporate press, there is widespread public support for this perception and course of action (as demonstrated by the August 2004 Zogby 9/11 Poll);

If we as a people refuse to demand truth and justice on a matter this grave, we will deserve our leaders' contempt and embolden them to further treachery. (They and their predecessors have, after all, gotten away with the now documented lies of the Tonkin Resolution, the JFK and MLK assassinations, Iran-Contra, Flight 800, the Waco Davidian murders, the Pentagon's "missing" $2.2 trillion, etc, etc. without consequence. Why should they start worrying about what the "sovereign people" think now?) We have to stand up and draw the line somewhere or we can kiss our hopes for security, solvency and democracy goodbye.

Wildlife to be Avoided

There are a good number of irrational and unsupportable 9/11 theories and theorists "out there" that have been used to great effect to discredit 9/11 truth advocates as whole (Check out Rule 4 in "The Twenty-five Rules of Disinformation" to grasp the tactic and then watch it in action in Popular Mechanics' recent 9/11 smear). We are therefore also concerned about these spurious plot lines and how they are exploited, and we criticize many on our site. Every large and growing movement picks up a few noisy dunces or provocateurs in the margins, but they do not in any way invalidate the well researched evidence at its core. We only pray that those drawn to the 9/11 issue by sensationalist claims will stay long enough to learn the less theatrical but equally damning truth.

The Twenty-five Rules of Disinformation http://www.911truth.org/article.php?story=20050116064744556

Popular Mechanics' recent 9/11 smear http://www.911truth.org/article.php?story=20050208093000680

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Stop posting videos that force your beliefs onto others, quite frankly it's offensive.
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A plane hit a building and then another hit the building next to it. They fell down and many people died. The end.
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Planes flew into towers/Thread
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/thread

who destroyed the thread? was it a conspiracy by the governtment to pay kirk4ever to end this thread to stop the truth from spreading? dun dun dunnnnn

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#6 deactivated-5e7f221e304c9
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Some guys were really pissed, and boom.
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Terroists hijacked some planes and drove them into bulidings killing thosuands. that is what I think happened.
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/thread

who destroyed the thread? was it a conspiracy by the governtment to pay kirk4ever to end this thread to stop the truth from spreading? dun dun dunnnnn

kirk4ever
That made my rofl :lol:
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i call out anyone who can answer all these questions, and i DOUBT any of you question dodgers will

How the hell did tower 7 fall?

how did George Bush brother happen to quit his job at WTC the DAY before it happened?

Why did FBI confinscate the pentagon tape? AND why won't they show it to the public just to shut us up?

WHY was congress suspicious enough to form a commission solely to INTERROGATE Bush and Cheney?

Why did these 2 only agree to the inquisition ONLY under their conditions such as specific questions and ONLY being questioned together?

SOMETHING fishy happening, and how does it work out so that invading Iraq is in Bush's mind, "justifiable" and then controlling resources, I respect any american loving patriot but please keep in mind, NONE OF YOU can give me an answer to EACH question so that leaves me to believe you may have some doubt deep within yourself.

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planes hit a building, explosives helped to bring down the buildings, certain experts were bribed by the government to tell people that what hte governement said really happened, goverment had a part in it /thread
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It was a god damn terodactyl that flew into the side of a building. Stupid dinosaurs and their problems...
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i call out anyone who can answer all these questions, and i DOUBT any of you question dodgers will

How the hell did tower 7 fall?

how did George Bush brother happen to quit his job at WTC the DAY before it happened?

Why did FBI confinscate the pentagon tape? AND why won't they show it to the public just to shut us up?

WHY was congress suspicious enough to form a commission solely to INTERROGATE Bush and Cheney?

Why did these 2 only agree to the inquisition ONLY under their conditions such as specific questions and ONLY being questioned together?

SOMETHING fishy happening, and how does it work out so that invading Iraq is in Bush's mind, "justifiable" and then controlling resources, I respect any american loving patriot but please keep in mind, NONE OF YOU can give me an answer to EACH question so that leaves me to believe you may have some doubt deep within yourself.

-theCHUD-

YES something DID happen but YOU will NEVERRRRRR find it out in a million YEARS in a gaming forums

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But one of them landed in Pennsylvania, because the people on that trip were crazy and took down the hijacker. I want to know what airline service that was, because apparently, they'll let you get wasted on the plane.
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Enough with the conspiracy theories.
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i call out anyone who can answer all these questions, and i DOUBT any of you question dodgers will

How the hell did tower 7 fall?

how did George Bush brother happen to quit his job at WTC the DAY before it happened?

Why did FBI confinscate the pentagon tape? AND why won't they show it to the public just to shut us up?

WHY was congress suspicious enough to form a commission solely to INTERROGATE Bush and Cheney?

Why did these 2 only agree to the inquisition ONLY under their conditions such as specific questions and ONLY being questioned together?

SOMETHING fishy happening, and how does it work out so that invading Iraq is in Bush's mind, "justifiable" and then controlling resources, I respect any american loving patriot but please keep in mind, NONE OF YOU can give me an answer to EACH question so that leaves me to believe you may have some doubt deep within yourself.

-theCHUD-

Why the hell are you asking on GameSpot? This is the community that is probably going to give you "Chuck Norris kicked them accidentally" because we don't care! This is a gaming forum, not a crappy conspiracy forum.

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It's simple as a heck. It's a handfulll of people, who got way too much money and way to much time to find how to make money, who decided to make a bIG MONEY SCHEME a.k.a 9/11. I won't lose my time saying all the facts, cuz first it would take me WAY too long, and secondly, all of you geeks are colse-minded as **** so its uselss. anywayz, if you love having the facts remixed in your face then dont do ****, but if not, search for yourself.

flame me, i will be glad

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Enough with the conspiracy theories.darksword1123

Yes, let's just end with the truth. Amelia Eardhart was flying back from Atlantis, where she had spent a long while living, and was astonished by all of the new technology so much that she was distracted and flew into the World Trade Center.

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#20 AlphaRail
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Kyle Brothlawski(SP) from South Park happened....anything else is a conspirtah!!!
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i call out anyone who can answer all these questions, and i DOUBT any of you question dodgers will

How the hell did tower 7 fall? It got tired and felt like taking a nap.

how did George Bush brother happen to quit his job at WTC the DAY before it happened? He gave someone a paper that said he quit.

Why did FBI confinscate the pentagon tape? AND why won't they show it to the public just to shut us up? To see what happened.

WHY was congress suspicious enough to form a commission solely to INTERROGATE Bush and Cheney? Because you never know what's hiding in a bush... And Cheney's just crazy.

Why did these 2 only agree to the inquisition ONLY under their conditions such as specific questions and ONLY being questioned together? They're in love.

SOMETHING fishy happening, and how does it work out so that invading Iraq is in Bush's mind, "justifiable" and then controlling resources, I respect any american loving patriot but please keep in mind, NONE OF YOU can give me an answer to EACH question Just did. so that leaves me to believe you may have some doubt deep within yourself.

-theCHUD-
Great. .
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#22 oback
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people crashed planes into buildings.

you conspiracy nuts are just that, nuts.

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horrible attempt at being a smart aleck, you put "just did" in the wrong spot and one of your answers isn't highlighted. YOU FAIL!
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[QUOTE="-theCHUD-"]

i call out anyone who can answer all these questions, and i DOUBT any of you question dodgers will

How the hell did tower 7 fall? It got tired and felt like taking a nap.

how did George Bush brother happen to quit his job at WTC the DAY before it happened? He gave someone a paper that said he quit.

Why did FBI confinscate the pentagon tape? AND why won't they show it to the public just to shut us up? To see what happened.

WHY was congress suspicious enough to form a commission solely to INTERROGATE Bush and Cheney? Because you never know what's hiding in a bush... And Cheney's just crazy.

Why did these 2 only agree to the inquisition ONLY under their conditions such as specific questions and ONLY being questioned together? They're in love.

SOMETHING fishy happening, and how does it work out so that invading Iraq is in Bush's mind, "justifiable" and then controlling resources, I respect any american loving patriot but please keep in mind, NONE OF YOU can give me an answer to EACH question Just did. so that leaves me to believe you may have some doubt deep within yourself.

jaydough

Great. .

Oh jay dough you slay me.

- Gan

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I'll say it how you can understand it, knowlege funk. Some bad guys drove a plane, the big ones that fly in the air, not one of your model ones, into the side of a very tall building. It fell, lots of people died. The end.
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you twoofers are quite entertaining. seriously dude, just use occams razor and find out what really happened

I know that this topic has been brought up countless times everywhere, but it is brought up for a reason.knowledge-funk

a bad reason at that

The following is simply an orientation, introducing the arguement, but not yet the idea.

The Two-Step 9/11 Truth Expedition

Understanding the full truth of 9/11 seems to require two separate awakenings. knowledge-funk

awakenings? you're kidding right?

The first, awakening to the fraudulence of the "official 9/11 story," is a pretty simple brain function and only requires a little study, logic or curiosity. We can help a lot with that part here and it's a major purpose of this site.knowledge-funk

that was an appeal to ridicule

The second step, however, consciously confronting the implications of that knowledge--and what it says about our media, politics and economic system today--is by far the harder awakening and requires an enormous exercise of nerve and heart. (As the Chinese say, "You cannot wake up a man who is pretending to sleep.") In other words, this part of the journey depends more on character than on maps and evidence so we can't help you much here, except to point out inspiring heroes and heroines who have courageously faced that truth, spoken out, and survived. (Though we might also point out the intriguing fact that our 9/11 heroines now outnumber 9/11 heroes by about six to one.) knowledge-funk

people promoting this conspiracy theory are not heroes in any sense of the word

The 911Truth.org Mission: Where we are going with this and where we are not

Although our members and friends in the truth movement hold a variety of opinions about what actually happened on September 11, 2001, 911truth.org as an organization generally believes that our chance for justice is now best served by focusing on the following five points:

The frequently warned of 9/11 attacks handed a lackluster presidency irresistible political power to increase inequality, repression, corporate domination, and imperial warfare (and even boost its electoral clout); knowledge-funk

there was no warning of an attack taking place on 9/11/01 in New York City.

Since this administration benefited so mightily from these crimes, a reasonable person (or investigation) might find it prudent to at least question its possible complicity. knowledge-funk

im sorry, but how has the administration benefitted from 9/11? the approval rating has plummeted since the invasion of Iraq

Even the minimalist LIHOP (Let It Happen On Purpose) complicity scenario constitutes high treason--i.e., the supposition that high officials knew a blowback attack was coming, understood the incredible poltical power it might confer, and preemptively disabled the few working parts of government that might have been able to thwart its success (by ignoring foreign warnings, quashing domestic investigations, cancelling Counterterrorism Task Force meetings, rewriting air emergency response protocols, staging distracting aerial war games, etc.) knowledge-funk

good things its complete BS. there isn't a shred of evidence that this happened

There is now more than enough compelling evidence of just such official misconduct, foul play, perjury and obstruction of justice to constitute probable cause for a full criminal investigation of all 9/11 events;knowledge-funk

what evidence? i'd love to see it

Despite continuing avoidance of this issue by our Congress, major parties and corporate press, there is widespread public support for this perception and course of action (as demonstrated by the August 2004 Zogby 9/11 Poll);

If we as a people refuse to demand truth and justice on a matter this grave, we will deserve our leaders' contempt and embolden them to further treachery. (They and their predecessors have, after all, gotten away with the now documented lies of the Tonkin Resolution, the JFK and MLK assassinations, Iran-Contra, Flight 800, the Waco Davidian murders, the Pentagon's "missing" $2.2 trillion, etc, etc. without consequence. Why should they start worrying about what the "sovereign people" think now?) We have to stand up and draw the line somewhere or we can kiss our hopes for security, solvency and democracy goodbye. knowledge-funk

the 2.2 trillion was lost to a faulty accounting system. The Tonkin Gulf incident (the first attack anyway) did actually happen. the 2nd attack may have been staged

Wildlife to be Avoided

There are a good number of irrational and unsupportable 9/11 theories and theorists "out there" that have been used to great effect to discredit 9/11 truth advocates as whole (Check out Rule 4 in "The Twenty-five Rules of Disinformation" to grasp the tactic and then watch it in action in Popular Mechanics' recent 9/11 smear). We are therefore also concerned about these spurious plot lines and how they are exploited, and we criticize many on our site. Every large and growing movement picks up a few noisy dunces or provocateurs in the margins, but they do not in any way invalidate the well researched evidence at its core. We only pray that those drawn to the 9/11 issue by sensationalist claims will stay long enough to learn the less theatrical but equally damning truth.

The Twenty-five Rules of Disinformation http://www.911truth.org/article.php?story=20050116064744556

Popular Mechanics' recent 9/11 smear http://www.911truth.org/article.php?story=20050208093000680

knowledge-funk

ummm, yeah. you have not presented any evidence

here's my take on 9/11

Al-Qaeda was really pissed off at America for the state of moral decay and our support of Israel in the Arab-Israeli conflict. In an attempt to scare us into submission, they hijacked 4 commercial aircraft and flew them into the WTC and the Pentagon. Due to the fire and the immense kinetic energy put onto the towers, the towers collapsed soonafter

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#27 knowledge-funk
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By simply reading the comments, I have the impression that either you didn't even bother reading my post because it includes more than 200 words, or that you simply do not care, and love your government too much to even slightly question their conspiracy theory of 9/11.
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horrible attempt at being a smart aleck, you put "just did" in the wrong spot and one of your answers isn't highlighted. YOU FAIL!-theCHUD-
You believe that 9/11 was a consiracy. I believe that you fail. :|
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By simply reading the comments, I have the impression that either you didn't even bother reading my post because it includes more than 200 words, or that you simply do not care, and love your government too much to even slightly question their conspiracy theory of 9/11.knowledge-funk

I read it and it says nothing new that I have not heard before.

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By simply reading the comments, I have the impression that either you didn't even bother reading my post because it includes more than 200 words, or that you simply do not care, and love your government too much to even slightly question their conspiracy theory of 9/11.knowledge-funk
No, we're just not retarded. Next you're going to say, "Scientology is the ONLY correct religion, and if you don't believe in it, you deserve to die."
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i call out anyone who can answer all these questions, and i DOUBT any of you question dodgers will

How the hell did tower 7 fall?-theCHUD-

debris fell onto WTC 7 and heavily damaged the poorly designed support structure

how did George Bush brother happen to quit his job at WTC the DAY before it happened?-theCHUD-

I'll answer that question with another question: WHERE'S YOUR SOURCE?

Why did FBI confinscate the pentagon tape? AND why won't they show it to the public just to shut us up?-theCHUD-

The tapes were being used in a criminal investigation of zacharias Mussoui. as of now, all pentagon tapes have been released, but when they're being used in an investigation, its illegal to release them to the public

WHY was congress suspicious enough to form a commission solely to INTERROGATE Bush and Cheney?-theCHUD-

again, WHERE IS YOUR SOURCE?

Why did these 2 only agree to the inquisition ONLY under their conditions such as specific questions and ONLY being questioned together?-theCHUD-

WTF was that? could you please make more grammatical sense?

SOMETHING fishy happening, and how does it work out so that invading Iraq is in Bush's mind, "justifiable" and then controlling resources, I respect any american loving patriot but please keep in mind, NONE OF YOU can give me an answer to EACH question so that leaves me to believe you may have some doubt deep within yourself.

-theCHUD-
Iraq had nothing to do with 9/11. Bush admitted that
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[QUOTE="-theCHUD-"]horrible attempt at being a smart aleck, you put "just did" in the wrong spot and one of your answers isn't highlighted. YOU FAIL!jaydough
You believe that 9/11 was a consiracy. I believe that you fail. :|

yet you can't even give any logical explanation to ONE of my questions so maybe you're the failure

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[QUOTE="jaydough"][QUOTE="-theCHUD-"]horrible attempt at being a smart aleck, you put "just did" in the wrong spot and one of your answers isn't highlighted. YOU FAIL!-theCHUD-

You believe that 9/11 was a consiracy. I believe that you fail. :|

yet you can't even give any logical explanation to ONE of my questions so maybe you're the failure

he's not being serious. I am. I answered all of your questions
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i call out anyone who can answer all these questions, and i DOUBT any of you question dodgers will

How the hell did tower 7 fall?

how did George Bush brother happen to quit his job at WTC the DAY before it happened?

Why did FBI confinscate the pentagon tape? AND why won't they show it to the public just to shut us up?

WHY was congress suspicious enough to form a commission solely to INTERROGATE Bush and Cheney?

Why did these 2 only agree to the inquisition ONLY under their conditions such as specific questions and ONLY being questioned together?

SOMETHING fishy happening, and how does it work out so that invading Iraq is in Bush's mind, "justifiable" and then controlling resources, I respect any american loving patriot but please keep in mind, NONE OF YOU can give me an answer to EACH question so that leaves me to believe you may have some doubt deep within yourself.

-theCHUD-

Blah blah blah. Same annoying and absurd conspiracy weirdo bull**** as usual. The least you could is try to be original, and you know, *not* regurgitate the same exact argument thousands of conspiracy morons before you have tried to enlighten us with. You even have the exact same morally arrogant self righteous attitude they do. "Look for the truth man! Stop being sheep!" Yeah, what ever Timmy. Go play with your Hotwheels cars now.

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you twoofers are quite entertaining. seriously dude, just use occams razor and find out what really happened

[QUOTE="knowledge-funk"]

I know that this topic has been brought up countless times everywhere, but it is brought up for a reason.notconspiracy

a bad reason at that

The following is simply an orientation, introducing the arguement, but not yet the idea.

The Two-Step 9/11 Truth Expedition

Understanding the full truth of 9/11 seems to require two separate awakenings. knowledge-funk

awakenings? you're kidding right?

The first, awakening to the fraudulence of the "official 9/11 story," is a pretty simple brain function and only requires a little study, logic or curiosity. We can help a lot with that part here and it's a major purpose of this site.knowledge-funk

that was an appeal to ridicule

The second step, however, consciously confronting the implications of that knowledge--and what it says about our media, politics and economic system today--is by far the harder awakening and requires an enormous exercise of nerve and heart. (As the Chinese say, "You cannot wake up a man who is pretending to sleep.") In other words, this part of the journey depends more on character than on maps and evidence so we can't help you much here, except to point out inspiring heroes and heroines who have courageously faced that truth, spoken out, and survived. (Though we might also point out the intriguing fact that our 9/11 heroines now outnumber 9/11 heroes by about six to one.) knowledge-funk

people promoting this conspiracy theory are not heroes in any sense of the word

The 911Truth.org Mission: Where we are going with this and where we are not

Although our members and friends in the truth movement hold a variety of opinions about what actually happened on September 11, 2001, 911truth.org as an organization generally believes that our chance for justice is now best served by focusing on the following five points:

The frequently warned of 9/11 attacks handed a lackluster presidency irresistible political power to increase inequality, repression, corporate domination, and imperial warfare (and even boost its electoral clout); knowledge-funk

there was no warning of an attack taking place on 9/11/01 in New York City.

Since this administration benefited so mightily from these crimes, a reasonable person (or investigation) might find it prudent to at least question its possible complicity. knowledge-funk

im sorry, but how has the administration benefitted from 9/11? the approval rating has plummeted since the invasion of Iraq

Even the minimalist LIHOP (Let It Happen On Purpose) complicity scenario constitutes high treason--i.e., the supposition that high officials knew a blowback attack was coming, understood the incredible poltical power it might confer, and preemptively disabled the few working parts of government that might have been able to thwart its success (by ignoring foreign warnings, quashing domestic investigations, cancelling Counterterrorism Task Force meetings, rewriting air emergency response protocols, staging distracting aerial war games, etc.) knowledge-funk

good things its complete BS. there isn't a shred of evidence that this happened

There is now more than enough compelling evidence of just such official misconduct, foul play, perjury and obstruction of justice to constitute probable cause for a full criminal investigation of all 9/11 events;knowledge-funk

what evidence? i'd love to see it

Despite continuing avoidance of this issue by our Congress, major parties and corporate press, there is widespread public support for this perception and course of action (as demonstrated by the August 2004 Zogby 9/11 Poll);

If we as a people refuse to demand truth and justice on a matter this grave, we will deserve our leaders' contempt and embolden them to further treachery. (They and their predecessors have, after all, gotten away with the now documented lies of the Tonkin Resolution, the JFK and MLK assassinations, Iran-Contra, Flight 800, the Waco Davidian murders, the Pentagon's "missing" $2.2 trillion, etc, etc. without consequence. Why should they start worrying about what the "sovereign people" think now?) We have to stand up and draw the line somewhere or we can kiss our hopes for security, solvency and democracy goodbye. knowledge-funk

the 2.2 trillion was lost to a faulty accounting system. The Tonkin Gulf incident (the first attack anyway) did actually happen. the 2nd attack may have been staged

Wildlife to be Avoided

There are a good number of irrational and unsupportable 9/11 theories and theorists "out there" that have been used to great effect to discredit 9/11 truth advocates as whole (Check out Rule 4 in "The Twenty-five Rules of Disinformation" to grasp the tactic and then watch it in action in Popular Mechanics' recent 9/11 smear). We are therefore also concerned about these spurious plot lines and how they are exploited, and we criticize many on our site. Every large and growing movement picks up a few noisy dunces or provocateurs in the margins, but they do not in any way invalidate the well researched evidence at its core. We only pray that those drawn to the 9/11 issue by sensationalist claims will stay long enough to learn the less theatrical but equally damning truth.

The Twenty-five Rules of Disinformation http://www.911truth.org/article.php?story=20050116064744556

Popular Mechanics' recent 9/11 smear http://www.911truth.org/article.php?story=20050208093000680

knowledge-funk

ummm, yeah. you have not presented any evidence

here's my take on 9/11

Al-Qaeda was really pissed off at America for the state of moral decay and our support of Israel in the Arab-Israeli conflict. In an attempt to scare us into submission, they hijacked 4 commercial aircraft and flew them into the WTC and the Pentagon. Due to the fire and the immense kinetic energy put onto the towers, the towers collapsed soonafter

wtf kinetic energy people heard the sound of bombs when the towers collapsed, and the way they fell can only be like this cuz of bombs inside. This is the perfect set-up, nothing else, and it worked perfectly. anywayz, everyone has the right to an opinion

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[QUOTE="jaydough"][QUOTE="-theCHUD-"]horrible attempt at being a smart aleck, you put "just did" in the wrong spot and one of your answers isn't highlighted. YOU FAIL!-theCHUD-

You believe that 9/11 was a consiracy. I believe that you fail. :|

yet you can't even give any logical explanation to ONE of my questions so maybe you're the failure

:lol: You guys really are a dime a dozen. This is some funny stuff.

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[QUOTE="jaydough"][QUOTE="-theCHUD-"]horrible attempt at being a smart aleck, you put "just did" in the wrong spot and one of your answers isn't highlighted. YOU FAIL!-theCHUD-

You believe that 9/11 was a consiracy. I believe that you fail. :|

yet you can't even give any logical explanation to ONE of my questions so maybe you're the failure

:o! You're right!!!
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Planes flew into towers/ThreadVilot_Hero

Exactly, it happened, it's over.

A lot happened that day, nobody alive knows 100% of what happened, don't pretend like you do.

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By simply reading the comments, I have the impression that either you didn't even bother reading my post because it includes more than 200 words, or that you simply do not care, and love your government too much to even slightly question their conspiracy theory of 9/11.knowledge-funk

Please. You think we love our government? These people are the jackasses that sent us into nine trillion dollars of debt. We just don't believe you because apparently you don't understand foreign affairs and how everyone hates the United States, so maybe they'd want to do bad things to us. Al-Qaeda hates the U.S. because it has a strong backbone and we still have enough money to not be freaking out. They attacked the U.K. too, in case you didn't notice. Everything isn't Bush's fault, you know.

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to "notconspiracy"

I really hope your name was not inspired by 9/11 because you obviously are not educated on the subject, ESPECIALLY if you didn't know about the 9/11 commission, so I refuse to do any research for you, all the questions I asked stem from factual issues or events.

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[QUOTE="knowledge-funk"]By simply reading the comments, I have the impression that either you didn't even bother reading my post because it includes more than 200 words, or that you simply do not care, and love your government too much to even slightly question their conspiracy theory of 9/11.jaydough
No, we're just not retarded. Next you're going to say, "Scientology is the ONLY correct religion, and if you don't believe in it, you deserve to die."

Nope, I'm agnostic.

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[QUOTE="notconspiracy"]

you twoofers are quite entertaining. seriously dude, just use occams razor and find out what really happened

[QUOTE="knowledge-funk"]

many had prior knowledge of what would come. This has been proven, Why not stop why you could?

David Schippers tells Metcalf feds 'ignored' warnings of WTC attacks

http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=25008

I know that this topic has been brought up countless times everywhere, but it is brought up for a reason.knowledge-funk

a bad reason at that

The following is simply an orientation, introducing the arguement, but not yet the idea.

The Two-Step 9/11 Truth Expedition

Understanding the full truth of 9/11 seems to require two separate awakenings. knowledge-funk

awakenings? you're kidding right?

The first, awakening to the fraudulence of the "official 9/11 story," is a pretty simple brain function and only requires a little study, logic or curiosity. We can help a lot with that part here and it's a major purpose of this site.knowledge-funk

that was an appeal to ridicule

The second step, however, consciously confronting the implications of that knowledge--and what it says about our media, politics and economic system today--is by far the harder awakening and requires an enormous exercise of nerve and heart. (As the Chinese say, "You cannot wake up a man who is pretending to sleep.") In other words, this part of the journey depends more on character than on maps and evidence so we can't help you much here, except to point out inspiring heroes and heroines who have courageously faced that truth, spoken out, and survived. (Though we might also point out the intriguing fact that our 9/11 heroines now outnumber 9/11 heroes by about six to one.) knowledge-funk

people promoting this conspiracy theory are not heroes in any sense of the word

The 911Truth.org Mission: Where we are going with this and where we are not

Although our members and friends in the truth movement hold a variety of opinions about what actually happened on September 11, 2001, 911truth.org as an organization generally believes that our chance for justice is now best served by focusing on the following five points:

The frequently warned of 9/11 attacks handed a lackluster presidency irresistible political power to increase inequality, repression, corporate domination, and imperial warfare (and even boost its electoral clout); knowledge-funk

there was no warning of an attack taking place on 9/11/01 in New York City.

Since this administration benefited so mightily from these crimes, a reasonable person (or investigation) might find it prudent to at least question its possible complicity. knowledge-funk

im sorry, but how has the administration benefitted from 9/11? the approval rating has plummeted since the invasion of Iraq

Even the minimalist LIHOP (Let It Happen On Purpose) complicity scenario constitutes high treason--i.e., the supposition that high officials knew a blowback attack was coming, understood the incredible poltical power it might confer, and preemptively disabled the few working parts of government that might have been able to thwart its success (by ignoring foreign warnings, quashing domestic investigations, cancelling Counterterrorism Task Force meetings, rewriting air emergency response protocols, staging distracting aerial war games, etc.) knowledge-funk

good things its complete BS. there isn't a shred of evidence that this happened

There is now more than enough compelling evidence of just such official misconduct, foul play, perjury and obstruction of justice to constitute probable cause for a full criminal investigation of all 9/11 events;knowledge-funk

what evidence? i'd love to see it

Despite continuing avoidance of this issue by our Congress, major parties and corporate press, there is widespread public support for this perception and course of action (as demonstrated by the August 2004 Zogby 9/11 Poll);

If we as a people refuse to demand truth and justice on a matter this grave, we will deserve our leaders' contempt and embolden them to further treachery. (They and their predecessors have, after all, gotten away with the now documented lies of the Tonkin Resolution, the JFK and MLK assassinations, Iran-Contra, Flight 800, the Waco Davidian murders, the Pentagon's "missing" $2.2 trillion, etc, etc. without consequence. Why should they start worrying about what the "sovereign people" think now?) We have to stand up and draw the line somewhere or we can kiss our hopes for security, solvency and democracy goodbye. knowledge-funk

the 2.2 trillion was lost to a faulty accounting system. The Tonkin Gulf incident (the first attack anyway) did actually happen. the 2nd attack may have been staged

Wildlife to be Avoided

There are a good number of irrational and unsupportable 9/11 theories and theorists "out there" that have been used to great effect to discredit 9/11 truth advocates as whole (Check out Rule 4 in "The Twenty-five Rules of Disinformation" to grasp the tactic and then watch it in action in Popular Mechanics' recent 9/11 smear). We are therefore also concerned about these spurious plot lines and how they are exploited, and we criticize many on our site. Every large and growing movement picks up a few noisy dunces or provocateurs in the margins, but they do not in any way invalidate the well researched evidence at its core. We only pray that those drawn to the 9/11 issue by sensationalist claims will stay long enough to learn the less theatrical but equally damning truth.

The Twenty-five Rules of Disinformation http://www.911truth.org/article.php?story=20050116064744556

Popular Mechanics' recent 9/11 smear http://www.911truth.org/article.php?story=20050208093000680

knowledge-funk

ummm, yeah. you have not presented any evidence

here's my take on 9/11

Al-Qaeda was really pissed off at America for the state of moral decay and our support of Israel in the Arab-Israeli conflict. In an attempt to scare us into submission, they hijacked 4 commercial aircraft and flew them into the WTC and the Pentagon. Due to the fire and the immense kinetic energy put onto the towers, the towers collapsed soonafter

But...but that is a conspiracy...Kyle Brawlflowski did it :(...but really, you forgot to mention that last time we were in Iraq, we stayed in their holy lands, even though they said not to.

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many had prior knowledge of what would come. This has been proven, Why not stop why you could?

David Schippers tells Metcalf feds 'ignored' warnings of WTC attacks

http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=25008

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[QUOTE="notconspiracy"]

you twoofers are quite entertaining. seriously dude, just use occams razor and find out what really happened

[QUOTE="knowledge-funk"]

I know that this topic has been brought up countless times everywhere, but it is brought up for a reason.DrCoCoPiMp

a bad reason at that

The following is simply an orientation, introducing the arguement, but not yet the idea.

The Two-Step 9/11 Truth Expedition

Understanding the full truth of 9/11 seems to require two separate awakenings. knowledge-funk

awakenings? you're kidding right?

The first, awakening to the fraudulence of the "official 9/11 story," is a pretty simple brain function and only requires a little study, logic or curiosity. We can help a lot with that part here and it's a major purpose of this site.knowledge-funk

that was an appeal to ridicule

The second step, however, consciously confronting the implications of that knowledge--and what it says about our media, politics and economic system today--is by far the harder awakening and requires an enormous exercise of nerve and heart. (As the Chinese say, "You cannot wake up a man who is pretending to sleep.") In other words, this part of the journey depends more on character than on maps and evidence so we can't help you much here, except to point out inspiring heroes and heroines who have courageously faced that truth, spoken out, and survived. (Though we might also point out the intriguing fact that our 9/11 heroines now outnumber 9/11 heroes by about six to one.) knowledge-funk

people promoting this conspiracy theory are not heroes in any sense of the word

The 911Truth.org Mission: Where we are going with this and where we are not

Although our members and friends in the truth movement hold a variety of opinions about what actually happened on September 11, 2001, 911truth.org as an organization generally believes that our chance for justice is now best served by focusing on the following five points:

The frequently warned of 9/11 attacks handed a lackluster presidency irresistible political power to increase inequality, repression, corporate domination, and imperial warfare (and even boost its electoral clout); knowledge-funk

there was no warning of an attack taking place on 9/11/01 in New York City.

Since this administration benefited so mightily from these crimes, a reasonable person (or investigation) might find it prudent to at least question its possible complicity. knowledge-funk

im sorry, but how has the administration benefitted from 9/11? the approval rating has plummeted since the invasion of Iraq

Even the minimalist LIHOP (Let It Happen On Purpose) complicity scenario constitutes high treason--i.e., the supposition that high officials knew a blowback attack was coming, understood the incredible poltical power it might confer, and preemptively disabled the few working parts of government that might have been able to thwart its success (by ignoring foreign warnings, quashing domestic investigations, cancelling Counterterrorism Task Force meetings, rewriting air emergency response protocols, staging distracting aerial war games, etc.) knowledge-funk

good things its complete BS. there isn't a shred of evidence that this happened

There is now more than enough compelling evidence of just such official misconduct, foul play, perjury and obstruction of justice to constitute probable cause for a full criminal investigation of all 9/11 events;knowledge-funk

what evidence? i'd love to see it

Despite continuing avoidance of this issue by our Congress, major parties and corporate press, there is widespread public support for this perception and course of action (as demonstrated by the August 2004 Zogby 9/11 Poll);

If we as a people refuse to demand truth and justice on a matter this grave, we will deserve our leaders' contempt and embolden them to further treachery. (They and their predecessors have, after all, gotten away with the now documented lies of the Tonkin Resolution, the JFK and MLK assassinations, Iran-Contra, Flight 800, the Waco Davidian murders, the Pentagon's "missing" $2.2 trillion, etc, etc. without consequence. Why should they start worrying about what the "sovereign people" think now?) We have to stand up and draw the line somewhere or we can kiss our hopes for security, solvency and democracy goodbye. knowledge-funk

the 2.2 trillion was lost to a faulty accounting system. The Tonkin Gulf incident (the first attack anyway) did actually happen. the 2nd attack may have been staged

Wildlife to be Avoided

There are a good number of irrational and unsupportable 9/11 theories and theorists "out there" that have been used to great effect to discredit 9/11 truth advocates as whole (Check out Rule 4 in "The Twenty-five Rules of Disinformation" to grasp the tactic and then watch it in action in Popular Mechanics' recent 9/11 smear). We are therefore also concerned about these spurious plot lines and how they are exploited, and we criticize many on our site. Every large and growing movement picks up a few noisy dunces or provocateurs in the margins, but they do not in any way invalidate the well researched evidence at its core. We only pray that those drawn to the 9/11 issue by sensationalist claims will stay long enough to learn the less theatrical but equally damning truth.

The Twenty-five Rules of Disinformation http://www.911truth.org/article.php?story=20050116064744556

Popular Mechanics' recent 9/11 smear http://www.911truth.org/article.php?story=20050208093000680

knowledge-funk

ummm, yeah. you have not presented any evidence

here's my take on 9/11

Al-Qaeda was really pissed off at America for the state of moral decay and our support of Israel in the Arab-Israeli conflict. In an attempt to scare us into submission, they hijacked 4 commercial aircraft and flew them into the WTC and the Pentagon. Due to the fire and the immense kinetic energy put onto the towers, the towers collapsed soonafter

wtf kinetic energy people heard the sound of bombs when the towers collapsed, and the way they fell can only be like this cuz of bombs inside. This is the perfect set-up, nothing else, and it worked perfectly. anywayz, everyone has the right to an opinion

bombs? people *heard* explosions. remember! explosion =/= bomb

also, no one saw any bombs, and if there were bombs, they would have been easily seen.

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many had prior knowledge of what would come. This has been proven, Why not stop why you could?

David Schippers tells Metcalf feds 'ignored' warnings of WTC attacks

http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=25008

knowledge-funk

Because the single rantings and anecdotes of a single crazed reporter, (Hint: A reported from the same media you so despise.) automatically disprove the findings of the entire scientific and engineering communities. :lol:

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[QUOTE="jaydough"][QUOTE="knowledge-funk"]By simply reading the comments, I have the impression that either you didn't even bother reading my post because it includes more than 200 words, or that you simply do not care, and love your government too much to even slightly question their conspiracy theory of 9/11.knowledge-funk

No, we're just not retarded. Next you're going to say, "Scientology is the ONLY correct religion, and if you don't believe in it, you deserve to die."

Nope, I'm agnostic.

That's not the point. Jaydough was making an emphasis on how you're spewing this garbage, so you might as well spew some more.

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[QUOTE="notconspiracy"]

you twoofers are quite entertaining. seriously dude, just use occams razor and find out what really happened

[QUOTE="knowledge-funk"]

I know that this topic has been brought up countless times everywhere, but it is brought up for a reason.DrCoCoPiMp

a bad reason at that

The following is simply an orientation, introducing the arguement, but not yet the idea.

The Two-Step 9/11 Truth Expedition

Understanding the full truth of 9/11 seems to require two separate awakenings. knowledge-funk

awakenings? you're kidding right?

The first, awakening to the fraudulence of the "official 9/11 story," is a pretty simple brain function and only requires a little study, logic or curiosity. We can help a lot with that part here and it's a major purpose of this site.knowledge-funk

that was an appeal to ridicule

The second step, however, consciously confronting the implications of that knowledge--and what it says about our media, politics and economic system today--is by far the harder awakening and requires an enormous exercise of nerve and heart. (As the Chinese say, "You cannot wake up a man who is pretending to sleep.") In other words, this part of the journey depends more on character than on maps and evidence so we can't help you much here, except to point out inspiring heroes and heroines who have courageously faced that truth, spoken out, and survived. (Though we might also point out the intriguing fact that our 9/11 heroines now outnumber 9/11 heroes by about six to one.) knowledge-funk

people promoting this conspiracy theory are not heroes in any sense of the word

The 911Truth.org Mission: Where we are going with this and where we are not

Although our members and friends in the truth movement hold a variety of opinions about what actually happened on September 11, 2001, 911truth.org as an organization generally believes that our chance for justice is now best served by focusing on the following five points:

The frequently warned of 9/11 attacks handed a lackluster presidency irresistible political power to increase inequality, repression, corporate domination, and imperial warfare (and even boost its electoral clout); knowledge-funk

there was no warning of an attack taking place on 9/11/01 in New York City.

Since this administration benefited so mightily from these crimes, a reasonable person (or investigation) might find it prudent to at least question its possible complicity. knowledge-funk

im sorry, but how has the administration benefitted from 9/11? the approval rating has plummeted since the invasion of Iraq

Even the minimalist LIHOP (Let It Happen On Purpose) complicity scenario constitutes high treason--i.e., the supposition that high officials knew a blowback attack was coming, understood the incredible poltical power it might confer, and preemptively disabled the few working parts of government that might have been able to thwart its success (by ignoring foreign warnings, quashing domestic investigations, cancelling Counterterrorism Task Force meetings, rewriting air emergency response protocols, staging distracting aerial war games, etc.) knowledge-funk

good things its complete BS. there isn't a shred of evidence that this happened

There is now more than enough compelling evidence of just such official misconduct, foul play, perjury and obstruction of justice to constitute probable cause for a full criminal investigation of all 9/11 events;knowledge-funk

what evidence? i'd love to see it

Despite continuing avoidance of this issue by our Congress, major parties and corporate press, there is widespread public support for this perception and course of action (as demonstrated by the August 2004 Zogby 9/11 Poll);

If we as a people refuse to demand truth and justice on a matter this grave, we will deserve our leaders' contempt and embolden them to further treachery. (They and their predecessors have, after all, gotten away with the now documented lies of the Tonkin Resolution, the JFK and MLK assassinations, Iran-Contra, Flight 800, the Waco Davidian murders, the Pentagon's "missing" $2.2 trillion, etc, etc. without consequence. Why should they start worrying about what the "sovereign people" think now?) We have to stand up and draw the line somewhere or we can kiss our hopes for security, solvency and democracy goodbye. knowledge-funk

the 2.2 trillion was lost to a faulty accounting system. The Tonkin Gulf incident (the first attack anyway) did actually happen. the 2nd attack may have been staged

Wildlife to be Avoided

There are a good number of irrational and unsupportable 9/11 theories and theorists "out there" that have been used to great effect to discredit 9/11 truth advocates as whole (Check out Rule 4 in "The Twenty-five Rules of Disinformation" to grasp the tactic and then watch it in action in Popular Mechanics' recent 9/11 smear). We are therefore also concerned about these spurious plot lines and how they are exploited, and we criticize many on our site. Every large and growing movement picks up a few noisy dunces or provocateurs in the margins, but they do not in any way invalidate the well researched evidence at its core. We only pray that those drawn to the 9/11 issue by sensationalist claims will stay long enough to learn the less theatrical but equally damning truth.

The Twenty-five Rules of Disinformation http://www.911truth.org/article.php?story=20050116064744556

Popular Mechanics' recent 9/11 smear http://www.911truth.org/article.php?story=20050208093000680

knowledge-funk

ummm, yeah. you have not presented any evidence

here's my take on 9/11

Al-Qaeda was really pissed off at America for the state of moral decay and our support of Israel in the Arab-Israeli conflict. In an attempt to scare us into submission, they hijacked 4 commercial aircraft and flew them into the WTC and the Pentagon. Due to the fire and the immense kinetic energy put onto the towers, the towers collapsed soonafter

wtf kinetic energy people heard the sound of bombs when the towers collapsed, Have these people ever heard a bomb? And it's a freaking huge building. Of course it's gonna sound loud, like a bomb. and the way they fell can only be like this cuz of bombs inside Yep, it sure has nothing to do with a freaking PLANE hitting it. :roll: . This is the perfect set-up, nothing else, and it worked perfectly. anywayz, everyone has the right to an opinion Except you, because you obviously abuse it.

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I really hope your name was not inspired by 9/11 because you obviously are not educated on the subject, ESPECIALLY if you didn't know about the 9/11 commission, so I refuse to do any research for you, all the questions I asked stem from factual issues or events.

-theCHUD-
actually my name was inspired by all conspiracy theories in general. second, instead of claiming that I am not educated on this subject, why not actually address the points that I made?
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[QUOTE="knowledge-funk"]

many had prior knowledge of what would come. This has been proven, Why not stop why you could?

David Schippers tells Metcalf feds 'ignored' warnings of WTC attacks

http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=25008

CaptHawkeye

So you admit it was a terrorist attack anyway? LAWL.

OWNED! Seriously dude, you just made my day with that. You guys are so witty. I love it.