9/11; What really happened?

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#201 knowledge-funk
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[QUOTE="jaydough"][QUOTE="Truth_Seekr"][QUOTE="jaydough"][QUOTE="knowledge-funk"] [QUOTE="jaydough"] You keep saying that we take whatever explanation our goverment gives us, but the truth is, only about half of OT is American, and the other half is just going with the only logical explanation. :| jaydough

I'm willing to guess that 90% of those who responded: pro the governments explanation, is american.

Why do you assume that? You have just made a guess without using any evidence to support your claim.

Whoelse, save for Americans, are willing to buy into any and everything the government has said?

The terrorists. Because they actually were the people who attacked.

watch this movie.

WhoKilledJohn O'Neill?

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-3857917663523144457&q=Who+killed+John+O%27Neil%3F&total=39&start=0&num=10&so=0&type=search&plindex=0

don't respond back until you finish.

It's an hour and 40 minutes. I have ADD. Do the math.... Or at least give me a summary of the video, or point out key points?

I'd recommend you watch b/e it gives you the view point of ALL sides in the complete arguments.

Heres info on it though if you REALLY don't want to watch it.

http://www.judicial-inc.biz/Oneill.htm

http://www.rense.com/general67/close.htm

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kN_IPcsXr5U&feature=related

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#202 Link256
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As always, South Park is the one that has the correct position on the matter... :P

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[QUOTE="jaydough"][QUOTE="knowledge-funk"]

[QUOTE="jaydough"][QUOTE="Truth_Seekr"][QUOTE="jaydough"][QUOTE="knowledge-funk"] [QUOTE="jaydough"] You keep saying that we take whatever explanation our goverment gives us, but the truth is, only about half of OT is American, and the other half is just going with the only logical explanation. :| knowledge-funk

I'm willing to guess that 90% of those who responded: pro the governments explanation, is american.

Why do you assume that? You have just made a guess without using any evidence to support your claim.

Whoelse, save for Americans, are willing to buy into any and everything the government has said?

The terrorists. Because they actually were the people who attacked.

watch this movie.

WhoKilledJohn O'Neill?

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-3857917663523144457&q=Who+killed+John+O%27Neil%3F&total=39&start=0&num=10&so=0&type=search&plindex=0

don't respond back until you finish.

It's an hour and 40 minutes. I have ADD. Do the math.... Or at least give me a summary of the video, or point out key points?

I'd recommend you watch b/e it gives you the view point of ALL sides in the complete arguments.

Heres info on it though if you REALLY don't want to watch it.

http://www.judicial-inc.biz/Oneill.htm

http://www.rense.com/general67/close.htm

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kN_IPcsXr5U&feature=related

I'll watch them later, but for now, I ask you a few questions, and if you don't answer them all with a logical explanation, the 9/11 conspiracy theorists are wrong, and if you argue afterwards about this not being fair, you're a hypocrite.
1. Why have these not been taken down by the goverment if a conspiracy happened?
2. Have you ever heard of Occam's Razor?
3. And if you have heard of it, then what's the best explanation if you go by that theory?
4. Why did they need the bomb to collapse the towers? They already flew a plane into it.
5. If you are correct, what should we do about it? Make a petition to make the flag like this?
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#204 rockon1215
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there is a plane hitting the tower on live television if thats proof enough to debunk all the conspiracy theories.
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#205 Gh0st_Of_0nyx
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2 planes hit the WTC and another hit the pentagon and one crached in pennsyvania

Thats what happend. If you think its a conspiracy your a moron IMO.

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#206 TheFragcat
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i like how people say " stop these conspiracy theories" because the 'official' version of what happened that day is a conspiracy theorie itself. just because the 'official' version of what happened is put on tv & put down on newspapers, it does not mean it is true.

"even if you are in a minority of one , the truth is still the truth" - Ghandi

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i like how people say " stop these conspiracy theories" because the 'official' version of what happened that day is a conspiracy theorie itself. just because the 'official' version of what happened is put on tv & put down on newpapers, it does not mean it is true.

"even if you are in a minority of one , the truth is still the truth" - Ghandi

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Just becuase you say it's true, doesn't mean it's true. :|
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#208 knowledge-funk
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[QUOTE="knowledge-funk"][QUOTE="jaydough"][QUOTE="knowledge-funk"]

[QUOTE="jaydough"][QUOTE="Truth_Seekr"][QUOTE="jaydough"][QUOTE="knowledge-funk"] [QUOTE="jaydough"] You keep saying that we take whatever explanation our goverment gives us, but the truth is, only about half of OT is American, and the other half is just going with the only logical explanation. :| jaydough

I'm willing to guess that 90% of those who responded: pro the governments explanation, is american.

Why do you assume that? You have just made a guess without using any evidence to support your claim.

Whoelse, save for Americans, are willing to buy into any and everything the government has said?

The terrorists. Because they actually were the people who attacked.

watch this movie.

WhoKilledJohn O'Neill?

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-3857917663523144457&q=Who+killed+John+O%27Neil%3F&total=39&start=0&num=10&so=0&type=search&plindex=0

don't respond back until you finish.

It's an hour and 40 minutes. I have ADD. Do the math.... Or at least give me a summary of the video, or point out key points?

I'd recommend you watch b/e it gives you the view point of ALL sides in the complete arguments.

Heres info on it though if you REALLY don't want to watch it.

http://www.judicial-inc.biz/Oneill.htm

http://www.rense.com/general67/close.htm

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kN_IPcsXr5U&feature=related

I'll watch them later, but for now, I ask you a few questions, and if you don't answer them all with a logical explanation, the 9/11 conspiracy theorists are wrong, and if you argue afterwards about this not being fair, you're a hypocrite.
1. Why have these not been taken down by the goverment if a conspiracy happened?
2. Have you ever heard of Occam's Razor?
3. And if you have heard of it, then what's the best explanation if you go by that theory?
4. Why did they need the bomb to collapse the towers? They already flew a plane into it.
5. If you are correct, what should we do about it? Make a petition to make the flag like this?

I will only give brief answers since you chose to not research what I have given you. I don't understand the point that all are wrong if answer not logically?

1.Because it is in the internet, they don't have the ability or the right.

2. Briefly, however, showing you respect, I will look into it.

3. answer after

4. The plane may not be enough to crash teh collapse. You really don't want to take the risk of the buildings still being up.

I suggest you study the buildings, and its structural facts.

5. No. Those who were part of this conspiracy or still free today. Why? Because the majority (like yourself) choose to ignorantly debunk all that is not the'official' story.

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#209 knowledge-funk
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there is a plane hitting the tower on live television if thats proof enough to debunk all the conspiracy theories.rockon1215

are you trying to suggest that "us crazy conspirators" don't believe that airplanes hit the tower?

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#210 knowledge-funk
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2 planes hit the WTC and another hit the pentagon and one crached in pennsyvania

Thats what happend. If you think its a conspiracy your a moron IMO.

Gh0st_Of_0nyx

Hoe does it make me a moron? I choose to question what is given to me; studying all view points.

If anything, you are a moron, for choosing not to question the official story.

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typical 9/11 conspiracy guy. listen to what a boob he sounds like.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3MSIkH2e28c

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[QUOTE="jaydough"][QUOTE="knowledge-funk"][QUOTE="jaydough"][QUOTE="knowledge-funk"]

[QUOTE="jaydough"][QUOTE="Truth_Seekr"][QUOTE="jaydough"][QUOTE="knowledge-funk"] [QUOTE="jaydough"] You keep saying that we take whatever explanation our goverment gives us, but the truth is, only about half of OT is American, and the other half is just going with the only logical explanation. :| knowledge-funk

I'm willing to guess that 90% of those who responded: pro the governments explanation, is american.

Why do you assume that? You have just made a guess without using any evidence to support your claim.

Whoelse, save for Americans, are willing to buy into any and everything the government has said?

The terrorists. Because they actually were the people who attacked.

watch this movie.

WhoKilledJohn O'Neill?

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-3857917663523144457&q=Who+killed+John+O%27Neil%3F&total=39&start=0&num=10&so=0&type=search&plindex=0

don't respond back until you finish.

It's an hour and 40 minutes. I have ADD. Do the math.... Or at least give me a summary of the video, or point out key points?

I'd recommend you watch b/e it gives you the view point of ALL sides in the complete arguments.

Heres info on it though if you REALLY don't want to watch it.

http://www.judicial-inc.biz/Oneill.htm

http://www.rense.com/general67/close.htm

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kN_IPcsXr5U&feature=related

I'll watch them later, but for now, I ask you a few questions, and if you don't answer them all with a logical explanation, the 9/11 conspiracy theorists are wrong, and if you argue afterwards about this not being fair, you're a hypocrite.
1. Why have these not been taken down by the goverment if a conspiracy happened?
2. Have you ever heard of Occam's Razor?
3. And if you have heard of it, then what's the best explanation if you go by that theory?
4. Why did they need the bomb to collapse the towers? They already flew a plane into it.
5. If you are correct, what should we do about it? Make a petition to make the flag like this?

I will only give brief answers since you chose to not research what I have given you. I don't understand the point that all are wrong if answer not logically?

1.Because it is in the internet, they don't have the ability or the right. They don't have the ability or right to crash planes into towers either.

2. Briefly, however, showing you respect, I will look into it. It goes something like, "The simplest answer is usually the correct one."

3. answer after

4. The plane may not be enough to crash teh collapse. You really don't want to take the risk of the buildings still being up. Even if it didn't collapse, since it was believed to be caused by terrorist attacks, people would still be devastated.

I suggest you study the buildings, and its structural facts. They're basicly the simplest buildings made. They're two quarter mile tall buildings, reinforced by steel beams.

5. No. Those who were part of this conspiracy or still free today. Why? Because the majority (like yourself) choose to ignorantly debunk all that is not the'official' story. "Those who were part of this conspiracy or still free today" Ehh... What?

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#213 knowledge-funk
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1.Because it is in the internet, they don't have the ability or the right. They don't have the ability or right to crash planes into towers either.

There is no proof that the governemnt really did not delete websites and such. However, if they were to, it would only cause suspicion. They do not want that, they already have enough.

2. Briefly, however, showing you respect, I will look into it. It goes something like, "The simplest answer is usually the correct one."

3. answer after

4. The plane may not be enough to crash teh collapse. You really don't want to take the risk of the buildings still being up. Even if it didn't collapse, since it was believed to be caused by terrorist attacks, people would still be devastated.

How ever their goal of getting the buildings destroyed, and destroying all the evidence would not be completed.

Once again, watch the movie i posted.

I suggest you study the buildings, and its structural facts. They're basicly the simplest buildings made. They're two quarter mile tall buildings, reinforced by steel beams.

I meant study its capabilites. what it can take.

5. Those who were part of this conspiracy or still free today. Why? Because the majority (like yourself) choose to ignorantly debunk all that is not the'official' story. "Those who were part of this conspiracy or still free today" Ehh... What?

Reread it?

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#214 knowledge-funk
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typical 9/11 conspiracy guy. listen to what a boob he sounds like.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3MSIkH2e28c

comp_atkins

so rather then debating with me you choose to bring my credibility down? I see. Really only brings yourself down.

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#215 comp_atkins
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[QUOTE="comp_atkins"]

typical 9/11 conspiracy guy. listen to what a boob he sounds like.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3MSIkH2e28c

knowledge-funk

so rather then debating with me you choose to bring my credibility down? I see. Really only brings yourself down.

not at all. the people actualy make good arguments against the theory... did u actually watch all 3 videos? the boobishness comes from the people being so anti-estabilishment and rebellious that they'll beleive anything without taking the time to think things thourgh logically.

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#216 knowledge-funk
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[QUOTE="knowledge-funk"][QUOTE="comp_atkins"]

typical 9/11 conspiracy guy. listen to what a boob he sounds like.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3MSIkH2e28c

comp_atkins

so rather then debating with me you choose to bring my credibility down? I see. Really only brings yourself down.

not at all. the people actualy make good arguments against the theory... did u actually watch all 3 videos? the boobishness comes from the people being so anti-estabilishment and rebellious that they'll beleive anything without taking the time to think things thourgh logically.

once again, you choose to try and bring me cedibility down rather than showing interest in my understanding, and giving it a chance through your own research.

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#217 knowledge-funk
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There is simply so much to argue and debate on this topic. 9/11 was not something planed in short time. It was progressed throughout time, after many events and planning.

Before all you of continue to critisize and mock me, research what I claim.

I present you a movie which presents ALL view points of all events leading to 9/11.

I highly recommend it, it is uniquly made, and requires simple logic and most importantly tolerance.

Show me some respect by viewing the movie, and than I'll be happy to continue and debate this.

Who Killed John O'Neill?

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-3857917663523144457&q=Who+killed+John+O%27Neil%3F&total=39&start=0&num=10&so=0&type=search&plindex=0

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#218 Zaeryn
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People still argue over this 9/11 conspiracy crap? Oh boy...
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#219 knowledge-funk
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People still argue over this 9/11 conspiracy crap? Oh boy...Zaeryn

Not crap. One of the most horrific events in the history of the US. It warrants a full, credible investigation.
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There is simply so much to argue and debate on this topic. 9/11 was not something planed in short time. It was progressed throughout time, after many events and planning.

Before all you of continue to critisize and mock me, research what I claim.

I present you a movie which presents ALL view points of all events leading to 9/11.

I highly recommend it, it is uniquly made, and requires simple logic and most importantly tolerance.

Show me some respect by viewing the movie, and than I'll be happy to continue and debate this.

Who Killed John O'Neill?

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-3857917663523144457&q=Who+killed+John+O%27Neil%3F&total=39&start=0&num=10&so=0&type=search&plindex=0

knowledge-funk

i stopped watching when i saw the guy using a mac... :P.. wel, that and the whole attempt at trying to be more entertaining than informative is really pissing me off...

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How about we forget about this 9/11 bussiness, and go get some ice cream?
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How about we forget about this 9/11 bussiness, and go get some ice cream?jaydough

What flavor?

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[QUOTE="knowledge-funk"]

There is simply so much to argue and debate on this topic. 9/11 was not something planed in short time. It was progressed throughout time, after many events and planning.

Before all you of continue to critisize and mock me, research what I claim.

I present you a movie which presents ALL view points of all events leading to 9/11.

I highly recommend it, it is uniquly made, and requires simple logic and most importantly tolerance.

Show me some respect by viewing the movie, and than I'll be happy to continue and debate this.

Who Killed John O'Neill?

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-3857917663523144457&q=Who+killed+John+O%27Neil%3F&total=39&start=0&num=10&so=0&type=search&plindex=0

comp_atkins

i stopped watching when i saw the guy using a mac... :P

As we all know, Mac users don't exist, so this video doesn't exist either.
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[QUOTE="jaydough"]How about we forget about this 9/11 bussiness, and go get some ice cream?pintabear49blue

What flavor?

How about vanilla, with crumbled bits of Butterfingers on it?
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#225 pintabear49blue
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[QUOTE="jaydough"]How about we forget about this 9/11 bussiness, and go get some ice cream?jaydough

What flavor?

How about vanilla, with crumbled bits of Butterfingers on it?

Sounds like a plan.

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#226 knowledge-funk
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Lol, juding from the last comments posted, I'm guessing the thread is now forever.

thankyou for those who showed atleast some tolerance and interest

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[QUOTE="jaydough"][QUOTE="pintabear49blue"]

[QUOTE="jaydough"]How about we forget about this 9/11 bussiness, and go get some ice cream?pintabear49blue

What flavor?

How about vanilla, with crumbled bits of Butterfingers on it?

Sounds like a plan.

All right. :) But don't tell Gan.
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[QUOTE="pintabear49blue"][QUOTE="jaydough"][QUOTE="pintabear49blue"]

[QUOTE="jaydough"]How about we forget about this 9/11 bussiness, and go get some ice cream?jaydough

What flavor?

How about vanilla, with crumbled bits of Butterfingers on it?

Sounds like a plan.

All right. :) But don't tell Gan.

I won't

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Here is part of the truth

I always think somebody is out to try to "put one over on us" so-called common people. So I'm always analyzing actions of politicians and their histories and what not.

Through my research I came to the conclusion that 9/11 was pulled off not by terrorists but by most likely by "bankers" like the Rockerfellers and others, with the help of Cheney and a few other key government officials.

Every year a group of bankers (and media controllers and politicians...but mainly bankers) from around the world to get together to discuss how they're going to direct world politics. Everything from poverty to wars...they cover it and decide how to get people under their control. This group is known as the Bilderberg group. Look them up if you don't believe me.

Hillary Clinton is an "active attendee" of these Bilderberg meetings. I am 100% positive she will be president no matter what, as a result of her loyalty to this group. And here's why...

"In August everyone discounted John McCain saying he had all but given up on his presidential race. Around that time I noticed he started to make GREAT changes in his rhetoric. Almost like he was trying to distance himself with his "liberal past." But with McCain out it gave other republicans a chance to step in. McCain is most likely a Bilderberg attendee or Bohemian Club member...taking political orders from people who have promised him power or a chance to achieve power.

With other republicans trying to take the lead, the fight over the democratic nomination received extremely little attention when compared to that of the republican nomination. There was no real talk of policies for the democrats, just people reporting on how Hillary and Barrack were "taking off the gloves." I believe they attempted to reveal as little about Hillary as possible and control everything that everybody sees about her. The less people know, they less they'll want Obama to be the nominee.

Romney just dropped out of the race in what seemed to be a lucrative suggestion. I can almost guarantee he was told to drop out so he could be vice president. Solidify McCain as the Republican nominee.

And with McCain as the republican nominee...there is no way Hillary can lose.

And why do I think Obama is going to lose to Hillary? Because we still have voting machines without paper trails." - D9-THC(a member of these forums)

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I can't figure why everyone wants to let terrorists off the hook because they love conspiracies and hate government. Without diligence they will strike again.
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#231 notconspiracy
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Here is part of the truth

I always think somebody is out to try to "put one over on us" so-called common people. So I'm always analyzing actions of politicians and their histories and what not.

Through my research I came to the conclusion that 9/11 was pulled off not by terrorists but by most likely by "bankers" like the Rockerfellers and others, with the help of Cheney and a few other key government officials.dave123321

what sort of research have you done? do you have scholarly sources?

Every year a group of bankers (and media controllers and politicians...but mainly bankers) from around the world to get together to discuss how they're going to direct world politics. Everything from poverty to wars...they cover it and decide how to get people under their control. This group is known as the Bilderberg group. Look them up if you don't believe me.dave123321

Look them up? you're kidding right? well, its sort of YOUR job to provide YOUR proof. as in, YOU have to cite your sources. maybe cite someone with credentials

Hillary Clinton is an "active attendee" of these Bilderberg meetings. I am 100% positive she will be president no matter what, as a result of her loyalty to this group. And here's why...

"In August everyone discounted John McCain saying he had all but given up on his presidential race. Around that time I noticed he started to make GREAT changes in his rhetoric. Almost like he was trying to distance himself with his "liberal past." But with McCain out it gave other republicans a chance to step in. McCain is most likely a Bilderberg attendee or Bohemian Club member...taking political orders from people who have promised him power or a chance to achieve power.

With other republicans trying to take the lead, the fight over the democratic nomination received extremely little attention when compared to that of the republican nomination. There was no real talk of policies for the democrats, just people reporting on how Hillary and Barrack were "taking off the gloves." I believe they attempted to reveal as little about Hillary as possible and control everything that everybody sees about her. The less people know, they less they'll want Obama to be the nominee.

Romney just dropped out of the race in what seemed to be a lucrative suggestion. I can almost guarantee he was told to drop out so he could be vice president. Solidify McCain as the Republican nominee.

And with McCain as the republican nominee...there is no way Hillary can lose.

And why do I think Obama is going to lose to Hillary? Because we still have voting machines without paper trails." - D9-THC(a member of these forums)

dave123321
that last incoherent rambling had nothing to do with 9/11 at all.
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#232 pintabear49blue
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Here is part of the truth

I always think somebody is out to try to "put one over on us" so-called common people. So I'm always analyzing actions of politicians and their histories and what not.

Through my research I came to the conclusion that 9/11 was pulled off not by terrorists but by most likely by "bankers" like the Rockerfellers and others, with the help of Cheney and a few other key government officials.

Every year a group of bankers (and media controllers and politicians...but mainly bankers) from around the world to get together to discuss how they're going to direct world politics. Everything from poverty to wars...they cover it and decide how to get people under their control. This group is known as the Bilderberg group. Look them up if you don't believe me.

Hillary Clinton is an "active attendee" of these Bilderberg meetings. I am 100% positive she will be president no matter what, as a result of her loyalty to this group. And here's why...

"In August everyone discounted John McCain saying he had all but given up on his presidential race. Around that time I noticed he started to make GREAT changes in his rhetoric. Almost like he was trying to distance himself with his "liberal past." But with McCain out it gave other republicans a chance to step in. McCain is most likely a Bilderberg attendee or Bohemian Club member...taking political orders from people who have promised him power or a chance to achieve power.

With other republicans trying to take the lead, the fight over the democratic nomination received extremely little attention when compared to that of the republican nomination. There was no real talk of policies for the democrats, just people reporting on how Hillary and Barrack were "taking off the gloves." I believe they attempted to reveal as little about Hillary as possible and control everything that everybody sees about her. The less people know, they less they'll want Obama to be the nominee.

Romney just dropped out of the race in what seemed to be a lucrative suggestion. I can almost guarantee he was told to drop out so he could be vice president. Solidify McCain as the Republican nominee.

And with McCain as the republican nominee...there is no way Hillary can lose.

And why do I think Obama is going to lose to Hillary? Because we still have voting machines without paper trails." - D9-THC(a member of these forums)

dave123321

And where did he get this info? Sources?

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#233 dave123321
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[QUOTE="dave123321"]

Here is part of the truth

I always think somebody is out to try to "put one over on us" so-called common people. So I'm always analyzing actions of politicians and their histories and what not.

Through my research I came to the conclusion that 9/11 was pulled off not by terrorists but by most likely by "bankers" like the Rockerfellers and others, with the help of Cheney and a few other key government officials.notconspiracy

what sort of research have you done? do you have scholarly sources?

Every year a group of bankers (and media controllers and politicians...but mainly bankers) from around the world to get together to discuss how they're going to direct world politics. Everything from poverty to wars...they cover it and decide how to get people under their control. This group is known as the Bilderberg group. Look them up if you don't believe me.dave123321

Look them up? you're kidding right? well, its sort of YOUR job to provide YOUR proof. as in, YOU have to cite your sources. maybe cite someone with credentials

Hillary Clinton is an "active attendee" of these Bilderberg meetings. I am 100% positive she will be president no matter what, as a result of her loyalty to this group. And here's why...

"In August everyone discounted John McCain saying he had all but given up on his presidential race. Around that time I noticed he started to make GREAT changes in his rhetoric. Almost like he was trying to distance himself with his "liberal past." But with McCain out it gave other republicans a chance to step in. McCain is most likely a Bilderberg attendee or Bohemian Club member...taking political orders from people who have promised him power or a chance to achieve power.

With other republicans trying to take the lead, the fight over the democratic nomination received extremely little attention when compared to that of the republican nomination. There was no real talk of policies for the democrats, just people reporting on how Hillary and Barrack were "taking off the gloves." I believe they attempted to reveal as little about Hillary as possible and control everything that everybody sees about her. The less people know, they less they'll want Obama to be the nominee.

Romney just dropped out of the race in what seemed to be a lucrative suggestion. I can almost guarantee he was told to drop out so he could be vice president. Solidify McCain as the Republican nominee.

And with McCain as the republican nominee...there is no way Hillary can lose.

And why do I think Obama is going to lose to Hillary? Because we still have voting machines without paper trails." - D9-THC(a member of these forums)

dave123321

that last incoherent rambling had nothing to do with 9/11 at all.

It has everything to do with it. Thi is from another member. Look up his account. He has given sources in his blog.

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#234 notconspiracy
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[QUOTE="notconspiracy"][QUOTE="dave123321"]

Here is part of the truth

I always think somebody is out to try to "put one over on us" so-called common people. So I'm always analyzing actions of politicians and their histories and what not.

Through my research I came to the conclusion that 9/11 was pulled off not by terrorists but by most likely by "bankers" like the Rockerfellers and others, with the help of Cheney and a few other key government officials.dave123321

what sort of research have you done? do you have scholarly sources?

Every year a group of bankers (and media controllers and politicians...but mainly bankers) from around the world to get together to discuss how they're going to direct world politics. Everything from poverty to wars...they cover it and decide how to get people under their control. This group is known as the Bilderberg group. Look them up if you don't believe me.dave123321

Look them up? you're kidding right? well, its sort of YOUR job to provide YOUR proof. as in, YOU have to cite your sources. maybe cite someone with credentials

Hillary Clinton is an "active attendee" of these Bilderberg meetings. I am 100% positive she will be president no matter what, as a result of her loyalty to this group. And here's why...

"In August everyone discounted John McCain saying he had all but given up on his presidential race. Around that time I noticed he started to make GREAT changes in his rhetoric. Almost like he was trying to distance himself with his "liberal past." But with McCain out it gave other republicans a chance to step in. McCain is most likely a Bilderberg attendee or Bohemian Club member...taking political orders from people who have promised him power or a chance to achieve power.

With other republicans trying to take the lead, the fight over the democratic nomination received extremely little attention when compared to that of the republican nomination. There was no real talk of policies for the democrats, just people reporting on how Hillary and Barrack were "taking off the gloves." I believe they attempted to reveal as little about Hillary as possible and control everything that everybody sees about her. The less people know, they less they'll want Obama to be the nominee.

Romney just dropped out of the race in what seemed to be a lucrative suggestion. I can almost guarantee he was told to drop out so he could be vice president. Solidify McCain as the Republican nominee.

And with McCain as the republican nominee...there is no way Hillary can lose.

And why do I think Obama is going to lose to Hillary? Because we still have voting machines without paper trails." - D9-THC(a member of these forums)

dave123321

that last incoherent rambling had nothing to do with 9/11 at all.

It has everything to do with it. Thi is from another member. Look up his account. He has given sources in his blog.

I would but for some reason he was banned
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#235 LJS9502_basic
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Here is part of the truth

I always think somebody is out to try to "put one over on us" so-called common people. So I'm always analyzing actions of politicians and their histories and what not.

Through my research I came to the conclusion that 9/11 was pulled off not by terrorists but by most likely by "bankers" like the Rockerfellers and others, with the help of Cheney and a few other key government officials.

Every year a group of bankers (and media controllers and politicians...but mainly bankers) from around the world to get together to discuss how they're going to direct world politics. Everything from poverty to wars...they cover it and decide how to get people under their control. This group is known as the Bilderberg group. Look them up if you don't believe me.

Hillary Clinton is an "active attendee" of these Bilderberg meetings. I am 100% positive she will be president no matter what, as a result of her loyalty to this group. And here's why...

"In August everyone discounted John McCain saying he had all but given up on his presidential race. Around that time I noticed he started to make GREAT changes in his rhetoric. Almost like he was trying to distance himself with his "liberal past." But with McCain out it gave other republicans a chance to step in. McCain is most likely a Bilderberg attendee or Bohemian Club member...taking political orders from people who have promised him power or a chance to achieve power.

With other republicans trying to take the lead, the fight over the democratic nomination received extremely little attention when compared to that of the republican nomination. There was no real talk of policies for the democrats, just people reporting on how Hillary and Barrack were "taking off the gloves." I believe they attempted to reveal as little about Hillary as possible and control everything that everybody sees about her. The less people know, they less they'll want Obama to be the nominee.

Romney just dropped out of the race in what seemed to be a lucrative suggestion. I can almost guarantee he was told to drop out so he could be vice president. Solidify McCain as the Republican nominee.

And with McCain as the republican nominee...there is no way Hillary can lose.

And why do I think Obama is going to lose to Hillary? Because we still have voting machines without paper trails." - D9-THC(a member of these forums)

dave123321

I don't believe any of that....

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#236 knowledge-funk
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Not completely sure about what he fully stated, but the point of the bilderberg is true. I'm honestly surprised you haven't heard of them, lately reporters have been catching on with their scretive meetings.

http://www.bilderberg.org/

http://www.prisonplanet.com/archive_bilderberg.html

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#237 HyruleSage89
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Idc if I get flamed for this or w/e but I still think the government's fault for 9/11
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#238 deactivated-5e7f221e304c9
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I thought I told you guys to forget this, and get some ice cream. :x You love ice cream. You love ice cream. You love ice cream. You love ice cream. You love ice cream.
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#239 pintabear49blue
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I thought I told you guys to forget this, and get some ice cream. :x You love ice cream. You love ice cream. You love ice cream. You love ice cream. You love ice cream.jaydough

Yes I love ice cream. I love ice cream.I love ice cream.I love ice cream.I love ice cream.

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[QUOTE="jaydough"] I thought I told you guys to forget this, and get some ice cream. :x You love ice cream. You love ice cream. You love ice cream. You love ice cream. You love ice cream.pintabear49blue

Yes I love ice cream. I love ice cream.I love ice cream.I love ice cream.I love ice cream.

The terrists hate er freedum. :|
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#241 notconspiracy
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Idc if I get flamed for this or w/e but I still think the government's fault for 9/11HyruleSage89
how is it their fault?
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#242 Truth_Seekr
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[QUOTE="Truth_Seekr"][QUOTE="jaydough"][QUOTE="knowledge-funk"] [QUOTE="jaydough"] You keep saying that we take whatever explanation our goverment gives us, but the truth is, only about half of OT is American, and the other half is just going with the only logical explanation. :| jaydough
I'm willing to guess that 90% of those who responded: pro the governments explanation, is american.

Why do you assume that? You have just made a guess without using any evidence to support your claim.

Whoelse, save for Americans, are willing to buy into any and everything the government has said?

I'm actually willing to guess that most Americans feel or sense, whatever you wanna call it, that something if fishy either about the events of 9/11 or previous catastrophes, but maybe they're afraid of what they may come across, and so they just go with what the daily news media machine tells em. At this point, I'm just speculating tho....

The terrorists. Because they actually were the people who attacked.

The thing that get's to me is, what or how would these terrorist organizations have had benefitted if infact they were the real perpetrators? As far as my understanding goes, the alleged perpetrators have lost everything they had before due to the supposed fact that at one point in time, Al Qaeda(sp?) - Osama bin Laden etc., were once assets of the CIA and/or other various agencies of the US. The one's that did benefit a GREAT deal IMO would be the one's who actually had financial & political motivation.

I'd go further, but I doubt my post will taken seriously or into consideration for that matter. Also, I came across a video that pretty much explains very nicely what I'm attempting to go into, but I sometimes refrain from posting the link because then ppl will say that only after I saw that video, did I think the way I am describing my view point on all of this.

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#243 Dracargen
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The 9/11 "truth movement" is a quack. Terrorists flew planes into the buildings.