A Man's Eyes Stiched Shut. Another Man's Mouth Stiched Shut. Yes, It's Saw IV.

http://my.break.com/media/view.aspx?ContentID=346234

The firsts four minutes... and one second of Saw IV is right there. I think it has the best beginning of any Saw movie I've ever seen. I forgot what happens at the beginning of the third, though. I don't think there is any brutal act at the beginning of that one, is there?

Anyways, check it out. It's really cool, and I know I'll love this one even more than the last three.

Stupid opening to another stupid torture porn movie.GettingTired

This isn't Hostel. The only time the Saw series had any sexual related themes in it was in the third one. There was a lady freezing to death with absolutely no clothes on. You saw her breasts, but that was it. The other two had nothing like that. And it's not like Saw doesn't have a plot. It does.

Old old old.Scienceblows

Just because you've seen it before, doesn't mean everyone else has. So don't post stupid comments that don't spark up any real discussion.

[QUOTE="Scienceblows"]Old old old.DeathScape666

Just because you've seen it before, doesn't mean everyone else has. So don't post stupid comments that don't spark up any real discussion.

[QUOTE="GettingTired"]Stupid opening to another stupid torture porn movie.DeathScape666

This isn't Hostel. The only time the Saw series had any sexual related themes in it was in the third one. There was a lady freezing to death with absolutely no clothes on. You saw her breasts, but that was it. The other two had nothing like that. And it's not like Saw doesn't have a plot. It does.

Do you even know what "torture porn" means?

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[QUOTE="GettingTired"]Stupid opening to another stupid torture porn movie.MrGeezer

This isn't Hostel. The only time the Saw series had any sexual related themes in it was in the third one. There was a lady freezing to death with absolutely no clothes on. You saw her breasts, but that was it. The other two had nothing like that. And it's not like Saw doesn't have a plot. It does.

Do you even know what "torture porn" means?

I thought he forgot the comma. As a wild guess, there is just a lot of torture involved.

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[QUOTE="Scienceblows"]Old old old.Scienceblows

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No, that isn't true. How would you even know that?

http://my.break.com/media/view.aspx?ContentID=346234

The firsts four minutes... and one second of Saw IV is right there. I think it has the best beginning of any Saw movie I've ever seen. I forgot what happens at the beginning of the third, though. I don't think there is any brutal act at the beginning of that one, is there?

Anyways, check it out. It's really cool, and I know I'll love this one even more than the last three.

DeathScape666

You obviously don't remember the guy with the hooks :lol:

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[QUOTE="Scienceblows"]Old old old.DeathScape666

Just because you've seen it before, doesn't mean everyone else has. So don't post stupid comments that don't spark up any real discussion.

No, that isn't true. How would you even know that?

The premise of the Saw movies is nothing short of amazing. They go deeper than "torture porn," being that the main idea is using one's faults against them in a life or death scenerio, to cure them of their "ailment" is simply brilliant.

By the way, is it just me or did Saw IV pop out of nowhere? I never heard a peep about it, and all of a sudden we're a month away from it's release date.

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http://my.break.com/media/view.aspx?ContentID=346234

The firsts four minutes... and one second of Saw IV is right there. I think it has the best beginning of any Saw movie I've ever seen. I forgot what happens at the beginning of the third, though. I don't think there is any brutal act at the beginning of that one, is there?

Anyways, check it out. It's really cool, and I know I'll love this one even more than the last three.

RoflSponge

You obviously don't remember the guy with the hooks :lol:

Ah, yes, now I remember! I wasn't sure if that was at the beginning or not. The third one had a lot of games in it.

Saw is one of my favorite series, ever. Maybe even my favorite one, ever. I am interesed to see what happens with Jigsaw being dead in this one. That lady in his visions- his ex-wife, I believe- may be featured in this one. I hope so.

Also, wasn't there some tape at the end of the third one that was never played? I never really expected them to make a fourth one, but I guess I was wrong!

The premise of the Saw movies is nothing short of amazing. They go deeper than "torture porn," being that the main idea is using one's faults against them in a life or death scenerio, to cure them of their "ailment" is simply brilliant.

By the way, is it just me or did Saw IV pop out of nowhere? I never heard a peep about it, and all of a sudden we're a month away from it's release date.

RiSkyBiZ-13

I learned about it about a month or two ago. There weren't many mentions of it. I just went to the movie section of Yahoo and looked up Saw and found the fourth installment of the series was coming out soon. A little less than a month ago, the finally released the trailer. It's about a minute long. I just love the music in it.

Ah, yes, now I remember! I wasn't sure if that was at the beginning or not. The third one had a lot of games in it.

Saw is one of my favorite series, ever. Maybe even my favorite one, ever. I am interesed to see what happens with Jigsaw being dead in this one. That lady in his visions- his ex-wife, I believe- may be featured in this one. I hope so.

Also, wasn't there some tape at the end of the third one that was never played? I never really expected them to make a fourth one, but I guess I was wrong!

DeathScape666

They all start with something extra gory ;)

I think the last tape youre talking about is the one

[spoiler] that says Amanda failed her 3rd test which plays while she's dying [/spoiler]

SAW SUCKS

mark4091

Why come to a thread about Saw if you hate it?

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Ah, yes, now I remember! I wasn't sure if that was at the beginning or not. The third one had a lot of games in it.

Saw is one of my favorite series, ever. Maybe even my favorite one, ever. I am interesed to see what happens with Jigsaw being dead in this one. That lady in his visions- his ex-wife, I believe- may be featured in this one. I hope so.

Also, wasn't there some tape at the end of the third one that was never played? I never really expected them to make a fourth one, but I guess I was wrong!

RoflSponge

They all start with something extra gory ;)

I think the last tape youre talking about is the one

*SPOILER!*

Yeah, my favorite beginning was the second one with the eyeball. My favorite movie, though... That's a hard decision. Maybe the third or first.

It could've been that one. I remember going on the Saw III forum and hearing people say that wasn't the one. I don't know, though. I'll have to watch it again.

Also, do you know if Jigsaw planned all the games happening in the fourth one before he died at the end of the third one, or will there be a new Jigsaw? I really can't imagine replacing the original Jigsaw. He was so clever.

Yeah, my favorite beginning was the second one with the eyeball. My favorite movie, though... That's a hard decision. Maybe the third or first.

It could've been that one. I remember going on the Saw III forum and hearing people say that wasn't the one. I don't know, though. I'll have to watch it again.

Also, do you know if Jigsaw planned all the games happening in the fourth one before he died at the end of the third one, or will there be a new Jigsaw? I really can't imagine replacing the original Jigsaw. He was so clever.

DeathScape666

I don't know, I thought the guy at the end of Saw 3 was gonna take over Jigsaw?

The premise of the Saw movies is nothing short of amazing. They go deeper than "torture porn," being that the main idea is using one's faults against them in a life or death scenerio, to cure them of their "ailment" is simply brilliant.

By the way, is it just me or did Saw IV pop out of nowhere? I never heard a peep about it, and all of a sudden we're a month away from it's release date.

RiSkyBiZ-13

No, that's just the plot's justification for the torture porn.

The whole point though, is still to just show ever more gory and sadistic murders so that viewers can saw "wow, that was AWESOME!"

Stupid opening to another stupid torture porn movie.GettingTired

[QUOTE="GettingTired"]Stupid opening to another stupid torture porn movie.Def_Jef88

Innocent? Apparantly you haven't seen the movies. Plus, there's more to them than that.

On topic... Loved the first, hated the 2nd, thought the 3rd was ok. I hope this one is as amazing as the first.

the first one was actually surprisingly good for me

the 2nd was much worse and the 3rd wasn't great either

I will still give this one a chance in hope of it returning to the quality of the 1st (however unlikely it is) but if this one doesn't live up, I'll pass on the all too likely Saw 5, 6, etc.

The whole point though, is still to just show ever more gory and sadistic murders so that viewers can saw "wow, that was AWESOME!"

MrGeezer

It's too bad that you lack the mental capacity to appreciate a deep and philosophical screen writer... go back to "Fast and the Furious" or whatever it is that you watch.

[QUOTE="Def_Jef88"][QUOTE="GettingTired"]Stupid opening to another stupid torture porn movie.Dethshoot

Innocent? Apparantly you haven't seen the movies. Plus, there's more to them than that.

On topic... Loved the first, hated the 2nd, thought the 3rd was ok. I hope this one is as amazing as the first.

"You skipped work so you DIE!!!!!!!"

"You cut yourself so you DIE!!!!!!"

"You did drugs so you DIE!!!!!!"

Please, this guy makes god look like.... god.

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[QUOTE="Scienceblows"]Old old old.Scienceblows

Just because you've seen it before, doesn't mean everyone else has. So don't post stupid comments that don't spark up any real discussion.

No, that isn't true. How would you even know that?

I haven't seen it. And I know lots of other people that haven't.

[QUOTE="MrGeezer"]

The whole point though, is still to just show ever more gory and sadistic murders so that viewers can saw "wow, that was AWESOME!"

RiSkyBiZ-13

It's too bad that you lack the mental capacity to appreciate a deep and philosophical screen writer... go back to "Fast and the Furious" or whatever it is that you watch.

[QUOTE="DeathScape666"]

[QUOTE="Scienceblows"]Old old old.Scienceblows

Just because you've seen it before, doesn't mean everyone else has. So don't post stupid comments that don't spark up any real discussion.

Fail. I haven't

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[QUOTE="Scienceblows"]Old old old.soroush7

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Fail. I haven't

Me either. :? Well, not until now.

If you think Saw is one of the best "philosophical" films, you need to watch more films..... I wouldn't used the word "deep" to describe Saw...ever.GettingTired

...I never said it was one of the best philosophical films, I said that the screen writer is a philosophical person.... dammit..

Another Halloween, another Saw movie. It's apperent the Lionsgate doesn't really give too craps about the qualityof the actuall movie as long as they can make decent bank off the filmgoers If they did, they wouldn't be cranking out a new installment year after year. Also when the original creators say "Enough is enough" and decide to walk away from the franchise they started, that says something about the quality of the movie, and it usually isn't good.

This is to the person who said they don't like innocent people being tortured: in the first couple movies, the person being tortured always did something wrong ie. drugs. So technically they are not totally innocent.USmellLikePoopy

And yeah, it's okay to cut somebody to death with barb wire as long as he uses drugs!

Please. The moralizing in this story is bull**** grade school level stuff. If you watch the movies, Jigsaw's moral motivation doesn't even make sense within the context of the story, as the victims are never intended to pass the tests.