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[QUOTE="sSubZerOo"] Yeah people seem not to comprehend this.. IF Andrew Jackson was shot at by today's guns, the guy would have unloaded a clip on and killed him.. Instead of missing with a musket shot in which Jackson instead of waiting for the guy to spend 30 seconds reloading, beat the Sh!t out of him with his cane.. sSubZerOo
I think it's time I link this again: http://www.assaultweapon.info/
What does this have anything to do with what I just said?
Not for you, for people like felipe
Correct, criminals will always find ways to hurt people. The KEY is making these "ways" limited as much as possible. One way is to ban public guns. Another, like you say, is to put more restrictions and harsh penalties. Australia doesn't have these kind of shootings each year like America does. And fyi, the crime rate has gone down in the last few years. Our problem here is ALCOHOL.[QUOTE="FelipeInside"][QUOTE="hartsickdiscipl"]
It's not common sense. What is common sense is that criminals will find ways to hurt people. That has been shown through the increasing violent crime rates in Australia and the UK. People who legally obtain guns aren't doing the damage here. Putting more restrictions on people who do no harm obviously doesn't do much for us.
hartsickdiscipl
So ban Alcohol. See what your next problem is and ban that too. Then the next one, and the next one... You see where we end up?
With the number of guns in the US, outlawing certain types will only keep them out of the hands of law-abiding citizens. Criminals and potentially a tyrannical government will still have them. No dice.
Well, Australia certainly is getting to the point where it might need to. But giving everyone guns doesn't make is safer mate. Also, a GUN is a lot deadlier than Alcohol. I'm not saying TOTALLY ban guns. By all means have laws that make you have to have a certificate to carry one (like people who practice sports with guns). BAN the whole, "I'll buy a carton of milk and a gun in the same shop".Good observation *golf clap*Just about every president from the last 100 years should have been impeached for one thing or another (or quite a few things in a some cases) and yet the only impeachment we have is for lying about having an affair. It's not going to happen
scoots9
[QUOTE="sSubZerOo"]
[QUOTE="wis3boi"]
I think it's time I link this again: http://www.assaultweapon.info/
wis3boi
What does this have anything to do with what I just said?
Not for you, for people like felipe
And thanks for presenting evidence to show what is really wrong with how some Americans think.[QUOTE="hartsickdiscipl"][QUOTE="FelipeInside"]
As for the Guns thing:
Having less access (or less easy access) to guns isn't going to make the country totally safe, but in today's day and age, it WILL make it safer. That's common sense and anyone who doesn't think so is deluded.
I live in Australia. Are we totally safe from wackos like that kid that took out the children? Of course not. But having no public access to an assault rifle makes it a lot more difficult for him to kill.
FelipeInside
It's not common sense. What is common sense is that criminals will find ways to hurt people. That has been shown through the increasing violent crime rates in Australia and the UK. People who legally obtain guns aren't doing the damage here. Putting more restrictions on people who do no harm obviously doesn't do much for us.
Correct, criminals will always find ways to hurt people. The KEY is making these "ways" limited as much as possible. One way is to ban public guns. Another, like you say, is to put more restrictions and harsh penalties. Australia doesn't have these kind of shootings each year like America does. And fyi, the crime rate has gone down in the last few years. Our problem here is ALCOHOL. BRING BACK PROHIBITION[QUOTE="wis3boi"][QUOTE="sSubZerOo"]
What does this have anything to do with what I just said?
FelipeInside
Not for you, for people like felipe
And thanks for presenting evidence to show what is really wrong with how some Americans think. Thanks for showing us that you know nothing about America.[QUOTE="FelipeInside"][QUOTE="wis3boi"]And thanks for presenting evidence to show what is really wrong with how some Americans think. Thanks for showing us that you know nothing about America.Not for you, for people like felipe
Jebus213
I said "some Americans".
And the country is called US, USA, United States. America is the continent.
Those articles are encouraging. I understand that these 19 states alone do not have enough congressmen to impeach Obama, but it would still be a very strong political statement for them and senators to be faced with recall elections, even if they ended up winning the elections. I think it would force politicians to take the possibility of impeachment seriously.I like the idea. However, I don't think it will work due to the number of states needed for something like this to succeed. There are other issues as well.
There are already some people working on getting him impeached-
http://thinkprogress.org/justice/2013/01/16/1455911/trey-radel-impeachment/?mobile=nc
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/01/15/texas-congressman-threatens-impeachment-if-obama-moves-on-guns/
hartsickdiscipl
Thanks for showing us that you know nothing about America.Jebus213
A staggering amount of Americans know nothing about America.
Not that it is particularly relevant...
[QUOTE="hartsickdiscipl"]Those articles are encouraging. I understand that these 19 states alone do not have enough congressmen to impeach Obama, but it would still be a very strong political statement for them and senators to be faced with recall elections, even if they ended up winning the elections. I think it would force politicians to take the possibility of impeachment seriously. You are funnyI like the idea. However, I don't think it will work due to the number of states needed for something like this to succeed. There are other issues as well.
There are already some people working on getting him impeached-
http://thinkprogress.org/justice/2013/01/16/1455911/trey-radel-impeachment/?mobile=nc
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/01/15/texas-congressman-threatens-impeachment-if-obama-moves-on-guns/
Laihendi
[QUOTE="Laihendi"][QUOTE="hartsickdiscipl"]Those articles are encouraging. I understand that these 19 states alone do not have enough congressmen to impeach Obama, but it would still be a very strong political statement for them and senators to be faced with recall elections, even if they ended up winning the elections. I think it would force politicians to take the possibility of impeachment seriously. You are funnyI like the idea. However, I don't think it will work due to the number of states needed for something like this to succeed. There are other issues as well.
There are already some people working on getting him impeached-
http://thinkprogress.org/justice/2013/01/16/1455911/trey-radel-impeachment/?mobile=nc
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/01/15/texas-congressman-threatens-impeachment-if-obama-moves-on-guns/
DroidPhysX
What a shock, 19 red states that don't like Obama..
[QUOTE="FelipeInside"]^^ Someone should PROHIBIT that SIGNATURE of yours... Every time I open it at work everyone says "What are you looking at"......lol....... (jst joking, it's an AWESOME SIG, yum yum) wis3boi
good thing it's only a gif of part of the video
OMFG !!!! Does the video get EVEN BETTER ???[QUOTE="hartsickdiscipl"]Those articles are encouraging. I understand that these 19 states alone do not have enough congressmen to impeach Obama, but it would still be a very strong political statement for them and senators to be faced with recall elections, even if they ended up winning the elections. I think it would force politicians to take the possibility of impeachment seriously.What law will you say the POTUS has broken to get him impeached? Can't plant an intern on this guy because he's happily married.I like the idea. However, I don't think it will work due to the number of states needed for something like this to succeed. There are other issues as well.
There are already some people working on getting him impeached-
http://thinkprogress.org/justice/2013/01/16/1455911/trey-radel-impeachment/?mobile=nc
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/01/15/texas-congressman-threatens-impeachment-if-obama-moves-on-guns/
Laihendi
You are funny[QUOTE="DroidPhysX"][QUOTE="Laihendi"] Those articles are encouraging. I understand that these 19 states alone do not have enough congressmen to impeach Obama, but it would still be a very strong political statement for them and senators to be faced with recall elections, even if they ended up winning the elections. I think it would force politicians to take the possibility of impeachment seriously.sSubZerOo
What a shock, 19 red states that don't like Obama..
Two of those states are Nevada and California. Recall elections could be held for Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid.[QUOTE="sSubZerOo"][QUOTE="DroidPhysX"] You are funnyLaihendi
What a shock, 19 red states that don't like Obama..
Two of those states are Nevada and California. Recall elections could be held for Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid. You are 2x funny.[QUOTE="wis3boi"][QUOTE="FelipeInside"]^^ Someone should PROHIBIT that SIGNATURE of yours... Every time I open it at work everyone says "What are you looking at"......lol....... (jst joking, it's an AWESOME SIG, yum yum) FelipeInside
good thing it's only a gif of part of the video
OMFG !!!! Does the video get EVEN BETTER ???( . Y . )
OMFG !!!! Does the video get EVEN BETTER ???[QUOTE="FelipeInside"][QUOTE="wis3boi"]
good thing it's only a gif of part of the video
wis3boi
( . Y . )
*faints
(PM me the link, PLEASE !!!)
Thanks for showing us that you know nothing about America.[QUOTE="Jebus213"][QUOTE="FelipeInside"] And thanks for presenting evidence to show what is really wrong with how some Americans think.FelipeInside
I said "some Americans".
And the country is called US, USA, United States. America is the continent.
This guy^ lol.... Yeah, United States of America. I said "America" for short.... like most people. "The America's" are comprised of two continents known as North and South America. True story.[QUOTE="FelipeInside"][QUOTE="Jebus213"] Thanks for showing us that you know nothing about America.Jebus213
I said "some Americans".
And the country is called US, USA, United States. America is the continent.
This guy^ lol.... Yeah, United States of America. I said "America" for short.... like most people. "The America's" are compromised of two continents known as North and South America. True story.I know. It just bothers me when the US is called America.
[QUOTE="Jebus213"][QUOTE="FelipeInside"]This guy^ lol.... Yeah, United States of America. I said "America" for short.... like most people. "The America's" are compromised of two continents known as North and South America. True story. I know. It just bothers me when the US is called America.I said "some Americans".
And the country is called US, USA, United States. America is the continent.
FelipeInside
Name me another country with America in its name and I'll give you a free cookie :P
I know. It just bothers me when the US is called America.[QUOTE="FelipeInside"][QUOTE="Jebus213"] This guy^ lol.... Yeah, United States of America. I said "America" for short.... like most people. "The America's" are compromised of two continents known as North and South America. True story.wis3boi
Name me another country with America in its name and I'll give you a free cookie :P
I know WHY sometimes it's called America, but I prefer the term US, United States, USA.
America is mostly the continent. If you are from Argentina (like me) you are also "technically" from America.
Can I get the FREE Cookie anyway?
This guy^ lol.... Yeah, United States of America. I said "America" for short.... like most people. "The America's" are compromised of two continents known as North and South America. True story.[QUOTE="Jebus213"][QUOTE="FelipeInside"]
I said "some Americans".
And the country is called US, USA, United States. America is the continent.
FelipeInside
I know. It just bothers me when the US is called America.
Like most Europeans, Australians, etc. you oversimplify the gun debate. You also use your own countries as examples which doesn't work.[QUOTE="FelipeInside"][QUOTE="Jebus213"] This guy^ lol.... Yeah, United States of America. I said "America" for short.... like most people. "The America's" are compromised of two continents known as North and South America. True story.Jebus213
I know. It just bothers me when the US is called America.
Like most Europeans, Australians, etc. you oversimplify the gun debate. You also use your own countries as examples which doesn't work.There's nothing "simple" about it. Making guns publicly available just gives people more (and easier) choices to acquire them. What's so hard to understand about that?
Also, Australia has problems, but they don't have shootings like these.
Like most Europeans, Australians, etc. you oversimplify the gun debate. You also use your own countries as examples which doesn't work.[QUOTE="Jebus213"][QUOTE="FelipeInside"]
I know. It just bothers me when the US is called America.
FelipeInside
There's nothing "simple" about it. Making guns publicly available just gives people more (and easier) choices to acquire them. What's so hard to understand about that?
Also, Australia has problems, but they don't have shootings like these.
And making things illegal doesn't help much. America banned all alcohol in the 1920s. Guess what happened. Gang culture exploded as people made underground liquor, sold it illegally, and transported it across the Canadian border.
[QUOTE="FelipeInside"]
[QUOTE="Jebus213"] Like most Europeans, Australians, etc. you oversimplify the gun debate. You also use your own countries as examples which doesn't work.wis3boi
There's nothing "simple" about it. Making guns publicly available just gives people more (and easier) choices to acquire them. What's so hard to understand about that?
Also, Australia has problems, but they don't have shootings like these.
And making things illegal doesn't help much. America banned all alcohol in the 1920s. Guess what happened. Gang culture exploded as people made underground liquor, sold it illegally, and transported it across the Canadian border.
Not illegal. CONTROLLED more.
But that's fine. Keep making excuses and keep guns easy to access. Public Shooting have been happening since Columbine and before, but I guess you guys think that's part of life?
[QUOTE="wis3boi"][QUOTE="FelipeInside"]
There's nothing "simple" about it. Making guns publicly available just gives people more (and easier) choices to acquire them. What's so hard to understand about that?
Also, Australia has problems, but they don't have shootings like these.
FelipeInside
And making things illegal doesn't help much. America banned all alcohol in the 1920s. Guess what happened. Gang culture exploded as people made underground liquor, sold it illegally, and transported it across the Canadian border.
Not illegal. CONTROLLED more.It's already really heavily controlled. Larger background checks is all you really need.
Not illegal. CONTROLLED more.[QUOTE="FelipeInside"][QUOTE="wis3boi"]
And making things illegal doesn't help much. America banned all alcohol in the 1920s. Guess what happened. Gang culture exploded as people made underground liquor, sold it illegally, and transported it across the Canadian border.
wis3boi
It's already really heavily controlled. Larger background checks is all you really need.
It's not. I've seen videos of people going into A-Mart or whatever and walking out with a gun. You can't do that in other countries.[QUOTE="wis3boi"][QUOTE="FelipeInside"] Not illegal. CONTROLLED more.FelipeInside
It's already really heavily controlled. Larger background checks is all you really need.
It's not. I've seen videos of people going into A-Mart or whatever and walking out with a gun. You can't do that in other countries.And you can't buy them without licensing, training, background checks for criminal records, etc. Any person can't just walk into wal-mart and buy a rifle.
It's not. I've seen videos of people going into A-Mart or whatever and walking out with a gun. You can't do that in other countries.[QUOTE="FelipeInside"][QUOTE="wis3boi"]
It's already really heavily controlled. Larger background checks is all you really need.
wis3boi
And you can't buy them without licensing, training, background checks for criminal records, etc. Any person can't just walk into wal-mart and buy a rifle.
You haven't been to a Wal-mart in Texas lol. There isn't even a waiting period if you buy from a Pawn shop here :(It's not. I've seen videos of people going into A-Mart or whatever and walking out with a gun. You can't do that in other countries.[QUOTE="FelipeInside"][QUOTE="wis3boi"]
It's already really heavily controlled. Larger background checks is all you really need.
wis3boi
And you can't buy them without licensing, training, background checks for criminal records, etc. Any person can't just walk into wal-mart and buy a rifle.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=baPgr_tw79Q Lots of more examples available.[QUOTE="wis3boi"]
[QUOTE="FelipeInside"] It's not. I've seen videos of people going into A-Mart or whatever and walking out with a gun. You can't do that in other countries.Yusuke420
And you can't buy them without licensing, training, background checks for criminal records, etc. Any person can't just walk into wal-mart and buy a rifle.
You haven't been to a Wal-mart in Texas lol. There isn't even a waiting period if you buy from a Pawn shop here :(My local shop
Nixon would have been impeached, but he resigned first, and Obama has yet to do anything near impeachable, because executive orders whether we like them are not, are within his authority, and is stated vaguely in Article II, Section 1, Clause 1 of the Constitution, and furthered by the declaration "take Care that the Laws be faithfully executed" made in Article II, Section 3, Clause 5. So executive while may be a stretch are not unconstitutional if used in a matter of national security.Just about every president from the last 100 years should have been impeached for one thing or another (or quite a few things in a some cases) and yet the only impeachment we have is for lying about having an affair. It's not going to happen
scoots9
[QUOTE="FelipeInside"]
[QUOTE="Jebus213"] Like most Europeans, Australians, etc. you oversimplify the gun debate. You also use your own countries as examples which doesn't work.wis3boi
There's nothing "simple" about it. Making guns publicly available just gives people more (and easier) choices to acquire them. What's so hard to understand about that?
Also, Australia has problems, but they don't have shootings like these.
And making things illegal doesn't help much. America banned all alcohol in the 1920s. Guess what happened. Gang culture exploded as people made underground liquor, sold it illegally, and transported it across the Canadian border.
actually use and the crime associated with it dropped by about 50%, and that was the goal of banning it.Reducing crime and violence associated with it.
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