According to the Chief of the fire department, Qu'ran burning event is illegal.

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#51 Snipes_2
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[QUOTE="Snipes_2"]

My my, isn't that convenient. What about the Bible burning? That was perfectly fine.

Ninja-Hippo

Can you please link to the bible burning in the same jurisdiction which you're referring to?

Where did I say it was in the Same Jurisdiction :?

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[QUOTE="GreySeal9"]

[QUOTE="Snipes_2"] Shouldn't have to worry about violence if it's a religion of peace. Snipes_2

What a bunch of small-minded bullcrap.

Followers of religions are not a hive mind. The actions of a few is not indicative of the religion as a whole.

If somebody generalized Christians in this way, you would probably go "LOL. I want some of what he's smokin" or something like that.

"A Few", how many suicide bombings and Attempted bombings have there been in the past 5 years around the world?

I don't know, since you seem to think there are a lot why not provide a number?

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And let me re-iterate....it's disgusting that they are doing this....
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#54 Joker_268
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General Petraeus has said something about this;

Did Gen. David Petraeus cross a civil-military dividing line when he commented on a church's Koran-burning plans? Scholars are divided. But Petraeus tells the Monitor he is obligated to give his assessment of a situation that could endanger US troops.


Wonder if Obama is gona say anything, since the Gen. has spoken.

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By the way Snipes, we're still waiting for you to show us where similar Bible burning was allowed in the same jurisdiction.

worlock77
I'm still waiting for you to tell me where I posted it was in the same Jurisdiction ;) Look up the Fire Laws for Raleigh, North Carolina.
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As long as they're not doing it right next to a building or dry brush, what's the harm?

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[QUOTE="Snipes_2"][QUOTE="GreySeal9"]

What a bunch of small-minded bullcrap.

Followers of religions are not a hive mind. The actions of a few is not indicative of the religion as a whole.

If somebody generalized Christians in this way, you would probably go "LOL. I want some of what he's smokin" or something like that.

chessmaster1989

"A Few", how many suicide bombings and Attempted bombings have there been in the past 5 years around the world?

I don't know, since you seem to think there are a lot why not provide a number?

That's going to take awhile...You want me to research every news source over the past 5 Years and count how many terrorists there were in each plot, then post it on here?
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[QUOTE="Ninja-Hippo"] Could you give an example of this, please? Omni-Slash
Adultry Cases...most states it's illegal...yet rarely if ever prosecuted....more times than niot dismissed if charges are brought to court....

"The enforceability of adultery laws in the United States is unclear following Supreme Court decisions since 1965 relating to privacy and sexual intimacy of consenting adults. However, occasional prosecutions do occur."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adultery#North_America

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[QUOTE="worlock77"]

By the way Snipes, we're still waiting for you to show us where similar Bible burning was allowed in the same jurisdiction.

Snipes_2

I'm still waiting for you to tell me where I posted it was in the same Jurisdiction ;) Look up the Fire Laws for Raleigh, North Carolina.

What happens in Raleigh, NC is irrelevant to Gainsville, FL.

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[QUOTE="GreySeal9"]

[QUOTE="Snipes_2"] Shouldn't have to worry about violence if it's a religion of peace. Snipes_2

What a bunch of small-minded bullcrap.

Followers of religions are not a hive mind. The actions of a few is not indicative of the religion as a whole.

If somebody generalized Christians in this way, you would probably go "LOL. I want some of what he's smokin" or something like that.

"A Few", how many suicide bombings and Attempted bombings have there been in the past 5 years around the world?

I don't know how many, but I know its a small number relative to the millions of Muslims out there.

Why are you trying to defend a cheap generalization?

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[QUOTE="Omni-Slash"][QUOTE="Ninja-Hippo"] Could you give an example of this, please? worlock77

Adultry Cases...most states it's illegal...yet rarely if ever prosecuted....more times than niot dismissed if charges are brought to court....

"The enforceability of adultery laws in the United States is unclear following Supreme Court decisions since 1965 relating to privacy and sexual intimacy of consenting adults. However, occasional prosecutions do occur."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adultery#North_America

thanks for agree with me...
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[QUOTE="Snipes_2"][QUOTE="worlock77"]

By the way Snipes, we're still waiting for you to show us where similar Bible burning was allowed in the same jurisdiction.

worlock77

I'm still waiting for you to tell me where I posted it was in the same Jurisdiction ;) Look up the Fire Laws for Raleigh, North Carolina.

What happens in Raleigh, NC is irrelevant to Gainsville, FL.

No, It's not. Both instances they burned a Holy Book, only one instance is bringing this much outcry. Why didn't any "Christian Extremists" resort to violence when their holy book was burned?
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[QUOTE="Snipes_2"][QUOTE="Ultimas_Blade"]

[QUOTE="Snipes_2"]

My my, isn't that convenient. What about the Bible burning? That was perfectly fine.

Why are you whining again? One could inference that you support this foolish act.

Don't you care about what'll happen to our soldiers?

Calls for sense and sensitivity fall on deaf ears :|

Shouldn't have to worry about violence if it's a religion of peace.

Exactly. If it's really a religion of peace, there wouldn't have to be all these dire warning of increased violence in the Muslim world. There are, however, many dire warnings, even from the top general in the U.S. He, if anyone, would know what they are like.
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[QUOTE="Snipes_2"][QUOTE="GreySeal9"]

What a bunch of small-minded bullcrap.

Followers of religions are not a hive mind. The actions of a few is not indicative of the religion as a whole.

If somebody generalized Christians in this way, you would probably go "LOL. I want some of what he's smokin" or something like that.

GreySeal9

"A Few", how many suicide bombings and Attempted bombings have there been in the past 5 years around the world?

I don't know how many, but I know its a small number relative to the millions of Muslims out there.

Why are you trying to defend a cheap generalization?

Take into account the number of extremists and the amount of lives they have taken...Thousands just in 9/11 alone.
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[QUOTE="Omni-Slash"]And let me re-iterate....it's disgusting that they are doing this....chessmaster1989

How disgusting that they would enforce the city's fire code! :roll:

I was talking about burning the Qurans :|
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#67 GreySeal9
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  • [QUOTE="worlock77"]

[QUOTE="Snipes_2"] I'm still waiting for you to tell me where I posted it was in the same Jurisdiction ;) Look up the Fire Laws for Raleigh, North Carolina. Snipes_2

What happens in Raleigh, NC is irrelevant to Gainsville, FL.

No, It's not. Both instances they burned a Holy Book, only one instance is bringing this much outcry. Why didn't any "Christian Extremists" resort to violence when their holy book was burned?

Because Christianity isn't having a problem with extremists on the same magnitude right now. Islam's current problem with extremism is due to sociopolitical factors, not because it is some sort of inferior religion as your ilk would like to believe.

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[QUOTE="chessmaster1989"]

[QUOTE="Omni-Slash"]And let me re-iterate....it's disgusting that they are doing this....Omni-Slash

How disgusting that they would enforce the city's fire code! :roll:

I was talking about burning the Qurans :|

My fault, sorry, misinterpreted your post. Deleted my post.

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[QUOTE="worlock77"]

[QUOTE="Omni-Slash"] Adultry Cases...most states it's illegal...yet rarely if ever prosecuted....more times than niot dismissed if charges are brought to court....Omni-Slash

"The enforceability of adultery laws in the United States is unclear following Supreme Court decisions since 1965 relating to privacy and sexual intimacy of consenting adults. However, occasional prosecutions do occur."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adultery#North_America

thanks for agree with me...

I didn't agree with you. Adultry cases aren't dismissed because they're rarely prosectued, they're rarely prosecuted because Supreme Court rulings have made the legalities of such cases murky.

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[QUOTE="Ninja-Hippo"][QUOTE="aransom"]

[QUOTE="Ultimas_Blade"]

Don't you care about what'll happen to our soldiers?

So some guy's sitting around in Afghanistan, minding his own business. Suddenly he says, "I used to love Americans, but one guy burned a Koran so I now hate him and the 299,999,999 Americans that didn't burn a Koran. Yi yi yi yi yi!"

Our politically correct rules of engagement are endangering our soldiers far more than this one wacko preacher ever will.

That's not really how it works. How it works is groups and regimes like the Taliban and Al Queda broadcast images of a burning stack of Qur'rans on TV, or in posters, and say stuff like 'the zionist west wants to exterminate all muslims!', and people become and incensed and upset at what they're seeing and believe it. It is the image which is the problem.

All they have to do is read the Quran to get that idea.
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[QUOTE="worlock77"]

[QUOTE="Snipes_2"] I'm still waiting for you to tell me where I posted it was in the same Jurisdiction ;) Look up the Fire Laws for Raleigh, North Carolina. Snipes_2

What happens in Raleigh, NC is irrelevant to Gainsville, FL.

No, It's not. Both instances they burned a Holy Book, only one instance is bringing this much outcry. Why didn't any "Christian Extremists" resort to violence when their holy book was burned?

The Jurisdiction of Raiegn, NC is not the same as the jurisdiction of Gainsville, FL. I think that's what he was referring to..
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[QUOTE="GreySeal9"]

[QUOTE="Snipes_2"] "A Few", how many suicide bombings and Attempted bombings have there been in the past 5 years around the world?Snipes_2

I don't know how many, but I know its a small number relative to the millions of Muslims out there.

Why are you trying to defend a cheap generalization?

Take into account the number of extremists and the amount of lives they have taken...Thousands just in 9/11 alone.

I'm not going to be roped into your ugly cheap generalizations aimed at demonizing Islam.

Relative to the Muslim population, the number of extremists is small.

You are being extremely unfair.

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[QUOTE="Ultimas_Blade"]

[QUOTE="Snipes_2"]

My my, isn't that convenient. What about the Bible burning? That was perfectly fine.

Snipes_2

Why are you whining again? One could inference that you support this foolish act.

Don't you care about what'll happen to our soldiers?

Calls for sense and sensitivity fall on deaf ears :|

Shouldn't have to worry about violence if it's a religion of peace.

Yea islam is a religion of peace, in no way in islams teaching does it condemn violence or murder. If a muslim chooses violence then it is from the personal desire of that person and has nothing to do with islam's teachings
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[QUOTE="worlock77"]

[QUOTE="Snipes_2"] I'm still waiting for you to tell me where I posted it was in the same Jurisdiction ;) Look up the Fire Laws for Raleigh, North Carolina. Snipes_2

What happens in Raleigh, NC is irrelevant to Gainsville, FL.

No, It's not. Both instances they burned a Holy Book, only one instance is bringing this much outcry. Why didn't any "Christian Extremists" resort to violence when their holy book was burned?

Yeah it is irrelevant. The subject here isn't outrage about the burnings, it's a question of the legality of it in the church's jurisdiction.

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My fault, sorry, misinterpreted your post. Deleted my post.

chessmaster1989
No problem....and no worries....I think it sucks that they are burning the books...(hate that no matter how much I hate religion)......I just can't bring myself to not allow them to do it no matter how much I'm opposed t the act... and seriously worlock...do you think every smalltown judge is worred abotu a 1965 ruling?....most don't even know it exists.....people don;t prosicute it anymore because it's a forgotten and dated law.....
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[QUOTE="Snipes_2"][QUOTE="Ultimas_Blade"]

Why are you whining again? One could inference that you support this foolish act.

Don't you care about what'll happen to our soldiers?

Calls for sense and sensitivity fall on deaf ears :|

MclovinKilledU

Shouldn't have to worry about violence if it's a religion of peace.

Yea islam is a religion of peace, in no way in islams teaching does it condemn violence or murder. If a muslim chooses violence then it is from the personal desire of that person and has nothing to do with islam's teachings

I know it doesn't condemn violence or murder in its teachings, that's why people are doing these things ;)

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not posting anymore...the coding is getting nutz to read...sorry guys...
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[QUOTE="Snipes_2"][QUOTE="worlock77"]

What happens in Raleigh, NC is irrelevant to Gainsville, FL.

worlock77

No, It's not. Both instances they burned a Holy Book, only one instance is bringing this much outcry. Why didn't any "Christian Extremists" resort to violence when their holy book was burned?

Yeah it is irrelevant. The subject here isn't outrage about the burnings, it's a question of the legality of it in the church's jurisdiction.

That's why I said Look up Raleighs Fire laws...

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[QUOTE="worlock77"]

[QUOTE="Snipes_2"] No, It's not. Both instances they burned a Holy Book, only one instance is bringing this much outcry. Why didn't any "Christian Extremists" resort to violence when their holy book was burned?Snipes_2

Yeah it is irrelevant. The subject here isn't outrage about the burnings, it's a question of the legality of it in the church's jurisdiction.

That's why I said Look up Raleighs Fire laws...

Which are of no relevance to Gainsville, Florida, where the church is question is located.

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[QUOTE="Snipes_2"][QUOTE="GreySeal9"]

I don't know how many, but I know its a small number relative to the millions of Muslims out there.

Why are you trying to defend a cheap generalization?

GreySeal9

Take into account the number of extremists and the amount of lives they have taken...Thousands just in 9/11 alone.

I'm not going to be roped into your ugly cheap generalizations aimed at demonizing Islam.

Relative to the Muslim population, the number of extremists is small.

You are being extremely unfair.

"ugly cheap generalizations aimed at demonizing Islam."

Lol What? I didn't generalize anything :?

How can you definitively say the number is "small", obviously not every Muslim is a terrorist, but take into account the number of lives taken by these "Extremists".

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[QUOTE="Snipes_2"]

[QUOTE="worlock77"]

Yeah it is irrelevant. The subject here isn't outrage about the burnings, it's a question of the legality of it in the church's jurisdiction.

worlock77

That's why I said Look up Raleighs Fire laws...

Which are of no relevance to Gainsville, Florida, where the church is question is located.

Oh my God...If you looked up the fire laws, and compare them to Gainesvilles....

Raleigh is where the Bibles were burned, no one even cared about it.

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[QUOTE="Ultimas_Blade"]

[QUOTE="Snipes_2"]

My my, isn't that convenient. What about the Bible burning? That was perfectly fine.

Snipes_2

Why are you whining again? One could inference that you support this foolish act.

Don't you care about what'll happen to our soldiers?

Calls for sense and sensitivity fall on deaf ears :|

Shouldn't have to worry about violence if it's a religion of peace.

Oh snap.

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[QUOTE="GreySeal9"]

[QUOTE="Snipes_2"] Take into account the number of extremists and the amount of lives they have taken...Thousands just in 9/11 alone.Snipes_2

I'm not going to be roped into your ugly cheap generalizations aimed at demonizing Islam.

Relative to the Muslim population, the number of extremists is small.

You are being extremely unfair.

"ugly cheap generalizations aimed at demonizing Islam."

Lol What? I didn't generalize anything :?

How can you definitively say the number is "small", obviously not every Muslim is a terrorist, but take into account the number of lives taken by these "Extremists".

I'm not going to let you rope me into this ugliness.

And yes you did generalize. You are trying to equate Muslim as a whole to the extremists. The game you are playing is obvious. You are fooling no one.

The number of Muslims that are terrorists and have taken lives is small relative to the general population of Muslims. Do you realize how large the Muslim population is?

Your bit about how many lives were taken is irrelevant and cheap. A small amount of people can take a large amount of lives.

If you are going to keep responding to my posts, try to answer with a shred of intellectual honesty instead of veiled attempts to demonize Islam.

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[QUOTE="worlock77"]

[QUOTE="Snipes_2"]

Oh my God...If you looked up the fire laws, and compare them to Gainesvilles....

Raleigh is where the Bibles were burned, no one even cared about it.

Snipes_2

You're kind of thick aren't you?

Maybe it is you who are "Thick"? Look up the Raleigh Fire Laws, Compare them to Gainesville. IF they match, nothing was done about the Bibles being burned...

How on Earth do you figure Raleigh, North Carolina's fire codes have any bearing whatsoever on Gainsville, Florida?

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[QUOTE="Snipes_2"]

[QUOTE="GreySeal9"]

I'm not going to be roped into your ugly cheap generalizations aimed at demonizing Islam.

Relative to the Muslim population, the number of extremists is small.

You are being extremely unfair.

GreySeal9

"ugly cheap generalizations aimed at demonizing Islam."

Lol What? I didn't generalize anything :?

How can you definitively say the number is "small", obviously not every Muslim is a terrorist, but take into account the number of lives taken by these "Extremists".

I'm not going to let you rope me into your ugliness.

And yes you did generalize. You are trying to equate Muslim as a whole to the extremists. The game you are playing is obvious. You are fooling no one.

The number of Muslims that are terrorists and have taken lives is small relative to the general population of Muslims. Do you realize how large the Muslim population is?

Your bit about how many lives were taken is irrelevant and cheap. A small amount of people can take a large amount of lives.

If you are going to keep responding to my posts, try to answer with a shred of intellectual honesty instead of veiled attempts to demonize Islam.

I didn't equate Muslims as a whole to extremists :? Now where's that shovel... :"try to answer with a shred of intellectual honesty i" The irony...is...unbearable... So, now lives are cheap? We shouldn't take into account the lives taken by this "Relatively Small" number of "Extremists".

http://www.uncoverage.net/2010/08/how-many-people-have-been-killed-by-muslims/

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[QUOTE="Ninja-Hippo"][QUOTE="Snipes_2"]

My my, isn't that convenient. What about the Bible burning? That was perfectly fine.

Snipes_2

Can you please link to the bible burning in the same jurisdiction which you're referring to?

Where did I say it was in the Same Jurisdiction :?

Well it would have to be for that to be a relevant point.
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[QUOTE="Snipes_2"][QUOTE="worlock77"]

You're kind of thick aren't you?

worlock77

Maybe it is you who are "Thick"? Look up the Raleigh Fire Laws, Compare them to Gainesville. IF they match, nothing was done about the Bibles being burned...

How on Earth do you figure Raleigh, North Carolina's fire codes have any bearing whatsoever on Gainsville, Florida?

They don't, I'm going to state this one more time. If the Fire Laws in Raleigh are the same as Gainesvilles and the bible was burned anyway without a fuss. Why is this creating such a Fuss?
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[QUOTE="Snipes_2"]

[QUOTE="Ninja-Hippo"] Can you please link to the bible burning in the same jurisdiction which you're referring to? Ninja-Hippo

Where did I say it was in the Same Jurisdiction :?

Well it would have to be for that to be a relevant point.

No, IT wouldn't. Same Laws, Same situation...
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[QUOTE="Snipes_2"] "A Few", how many suicide bombings and Attempted bombings have there been in the past 5 years around the world?Snipes_2

I don't know how many, but I know its a small number relative to the millions of Muslims out there.

Why are you trying to defend a cheap generalization?

Take into account the number of extremists and the amount of lives they have taken...Thousands just in 9/11 alone.

Considering the extremists were excellent planners who managed to take the lives triple the lives they took in 9/11. Does it make Muslims worse?

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#92 worlock77
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[QUOTE="Snipes_2"] Maybe it is you who are "Thick"? Look up the Raleigh Fire Laws, Compare them to Gainesville. IF they match, nothing was done about the Bibles being burned...Snipes_2

How on Earth do you figure Raleigh, North Carolina's fire codes have any bearing whatsoever on Gainsville, Florida?

They don't, I'm going to state this one more time. If the Fire Laws in Raleigh are the same as Gainesvilles and the bible was burned anyway without a fuss. Why is this creating such a Fuss?

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#93 Ninja-Hippo
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[QUOTE="Snipes_2"][QUOTE="Ninja-Hippo"][QUOTE="Snipes_2"] Shouldn't have to worry about violence if it's a religion of peace.

Since when does anyone follow the teachings of the religion they supposedly follow? I mean, i hear some guy who calls himself a christian is planning to burn a huge stack of holy books even though he's been told it will likely endanger the lives of soldiers.

Non Denominational. "In Christianity, non-denominational institutions or churches are those not formally aligned with an established denomination, or that remain otherwise officially autonomous." Burning books is hardly comparable to suicide bombings etc...

This isn't a matter of links and quotes, snipes. A person who is supposedly a christian should not be doing something which they know full well may endanger the lives of others, should they? Therefore, to act as if all muslims should be peaceful and gentle-hearted because the Qu'ran says so is folly. Are all christians gentle-hearted samaritans who give up all they have to help others? Heck no. Besides, how on earth is it fair for you to look to muslims to condemn for acts of violence while completing ignoring the man who knowingly and willfully incited that violence?
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#94 Ninja-Hippo
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[QUOTE="Snipes_2"] Shouldn't have to worry about violence if it's a religion of peace. Snipes_2

What a bunch of small-minded bullcrap.

Followers of religions are not a hive mind. The actions of a few is not indicative of the religion as a whole.

If somebody generalized Christians in this way, you would probably go "LOL. I want some of what he's smokin" or something like that.

"A Few", how many suicide bombings and Attempted bombings have there been in the past 5 years around the world?

Out of the 1.2 billion muslims in the world? Not many, snipes...
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#95 Snipes_2
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[QUOTE="Snipes_2"][QUOTE="GreySeal9"]

I don't know how many, but I know its a small number relative to the millions of Muslims out there.

Why are you trying to defend a cheap generalization?

krazy-blazer

Take into account the number of extremists and the amount of lives they have taken...Thousands just in 9/11 alone.

Considering the extremists were excellent planners who managed to take the lives triple the lives they took in 9/11. Does it make Muslims worse?

Does it make "Muslims" as a whole worse? As individual people?
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#96 GreySeal9
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[QUOTE="GreySeal9"]

[QUOTE="Snipes_2"]

"ugly cheap generalizations aimed at demonizing Islam."

Lol What? I didn't generalize anything :?

How can you definitively say the number is "small", obviously not every Muslim is a terrorist, but take into account the number of lives taken by these "Extremists".

Snipes_2

I'm not going to let you rope me into your ugliness.

And yes you did generalize. You are trying to equate Muslim as a whole to the extremists. The game you are playing is obvious. You are fooling no one.

The number of Muslims that are terrorists and have taken lives is small relative to the general population of Muslims. Do you realize how large the Muslim population is?

Your bit about how many lives were taken is irrelevant and cheap. A small amount of people can take a large amount of lives.

If you are going to keep responding to my posts, try to answer with a shred of intellectual honesty instead of veiled attempts to demonize Islam.

I didn't equate Muslims as a whole to extremists :? Now where's that shovel... :"try to answer with a shred of intellectual honesty i" The irony...is...unbearable... So, now lives are cheap? We shouldn't take into account the lives taken by this "Relatively Small" number of "Extremists".

Yes, you are generalizing. It is apparent from your general argument. That's why you are arguing with me right now. We could both agree that the extremists don't account for the millions of Muslims yet you keep trying to throw these little "but what about all the lives they took?" sort of BS.

I never said lives were cheap. There goes the dishonesty again. I said that a relatively small amount of Muslims can take a whole bunch of lives, so your attempt to use the amount of lives taken to say something about Islam is irrelevant. Your attempt to to try to make it look like a said that lives are cheap is deeply dishonest.

What is the point of talking about how many lives they took? Nobody's arguing that big amounts of lives were taken? But again, extremists/=/whole. You seem to not be able to agree with that notion or if you do, you're sure doing a lot of unneccessary arguing.

So what conclusion are you trying to arrive at with the point about the amount of lives?

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#97 Snipes_2
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[QUOTE="Snipes_2"][QUOTE="GreySeal9"]

What a bunch of small-minded bullcrap.

Followers of religions are not a hive mind. The actions of a few is not indicative of the religion as a whole.

If somebody generalized Christians in this way, you would probably go "LOL. I want some of what he's smokin" or something like that.

Ninja-Hippo

"A Few", how many suicide bombings and Attempted bombings have there been in the past 5 years around the world?

Out of the 1.2 billion muslims in the world? Not many, snipes...

In 5 years? Compared to 2 billion it would not be many, how about the last 15 or 20 years. I think you'll see the numbers to be a little closer.

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#98 worlock77
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[QUOTE="Ninja-Hippo"][QUOTE="Snipes_2"] "A Few", how many suicide bombings and Attempted bombings have there been in the past 5 years around the world?Snipes_2

Out of the 1.2 billion muslims in the world? Not many, snipes...

In 5 years? Compared to 2 billion it would not be many, how about the last 15 or 20 years. I think you'll see the numbers to be a little closer.

Even if it were a million that's still a fraction out of 1.2 billion.

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#99 Snipes_2
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[QUOTE="Snipes_2"][QUOTE="GreySeal9"]

I'm not going to let you rope me into your ugliness.

And yes you did generalize. You are trying to equate Muslim as a whole to the extremists. The game you are playing is obvious. You are fooling no one.

The number of Muslims that are terrorists and have taken lives is small relative to the general population of Muslims. Do you realize how large the Muslim population is?

Your bit about how many lives were taken is irrelevant and cheap. A small amount of people can take a large amount of lives.

If you are going to keep responding to my posts, try to answer with a shred of intellectual honesty instead of veiled attempts to demonize Islam.

GreySeal9

I didn't equate Muslims as a whole to extremists :? Now where's that shovel... :"try to answer with a shred of intellectual honesty i" The irony...is...unbearable... So, now lives are cheap? We shouldn't take into account the lives taken by this "Relatively Small" number of "Extremists".

Yes, you are generalizing. It is apparent from your general argument. That's why you are arguing with me right now. We could both agree that the extremists don't account for the millions of Muslims yet you keep trying to throw these little "but what about all the lives they took?" sort of BS.

I never said lives were cheap. There goes the dishonesty again. I said that a relatively small amount of Muslims can take a whole bunch of lives, so your attempt to use the amount of lives taken to say something about Islam is irrelevant. Your attempt to to try to make it look like a said that lives are cheap is deeply dishonest.

What is the point of talking about how many lives they took? Nobody's arguing that big amounts of lives were taken? But again, extremists/=/whole. You seem to not be able to agree with that notion or if you do, you're sure doing a lot of unneccessary arguing.

So what conclusion are you trying to arrive at with the point about the amount of lives?

No, You're arguing the number is "Relatively Small", while I'm arguing that they have taken many lives no matter how small a number they are. Uhh"Your bit about how many lives were taken is irrelevant and cheap." Stop saying I'm dishonest, you're not getting anywhere with that, since I'm clearly not, as you can see by this quote from your post. Again the irony, I never said Extremists represented EVERYONE In the religion...
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[QUOTE="Ninja-Hippo"][QUOTE="Snipes_2"] "A Few", how many suicide bombings and Attempted bombings have there been in the past 5 years around the world?Snipes_2

Out of the 1.2 billion muslims in the world? Not many, snipes...

In 5 years? Compared to 2 billion it would not be many, how about the last 15 or 20 years. I think you'll see the numbers to be a little closer.

Protip: statistics works a lot better when you actually have numbers to work with.