I'm all eyes for any legitimate argument whatsoever.
I'm honestly starting to believe it's some kind of conspiracy.
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I'm all eyes for any legitimate argument whatsoever.
I'm honestly starting to believe it's some kind of conspiracy.
So the federal government can destabilize the **** out of Mexico, and then have a pretext for establishing a military presence there and perhaps eventually taking over the rest of Mexico.
Okay, maybe that's not the idea, but I don't consider it an entirely far-fetched scenario anyway.
That doesn't answer the question. Marijuana isn't illegal because it's marijuana.Maybe because its a drug? You think that if Alcohol and Tobacco were still illegal they'd legalize them today?
magnax1
Ok, so what if it's a drug, so is advil, and tylenol, and aspirin, it doesn't matter, the government has no right to deny people freedoms, as long as they don't impose on other people's freedoms.Maybe because its a drug? You think that if Alcohol and Tobacco were still illegal they'd legalize them today?
magnax1
[QUOTE="magnax1"]Ok, so what if it's a drug, so is advil, and tylenol, and aspirin, it doesn't matter, the government has no right to deny people freedoms, as long as they don't impose on other people's freedoms.Maybe because its a drug? You think that if Alcohol and Tobacco were still illegal they'd legalize them today?
Franklinstein
Yeah, they do when they cause danger to other people.
Stigma.Cherokee_JackI don't think so, I think it's more because of this...
Because big business, tobacco and alcohol, don't want it legalized (more competition). Agent-ZeroI kind of agree with you, not only that, but also all the people that benefit from it being illegal. High level drug dealers want it to stay illegal because if it were legal then they would not make any money, for example.
Ok, so what if it's a drug, so is advil, and tylenol, and aspirin, it doesn't matter, the government has no right to deny people freedoms, as long as they don't impose on other people's freedoms.[QUOTE="Franklinstein"][QUOTE="magnax1"]
Maybe because its a drug? You think that if Alcohol and Tobacco were still illegal they'd legalize them today?
magnax1
Yeah, they do when they cause danger to other people.
How is marijuana dangerous? Especially compared to LEGAL substances such as alcohol?So we can destabilize the **** out of Mexico, apparently.StopThePressesThat's probably a factor of it, on that same note, the cotton farmers in the United States, probably still don't want it legalized.
[QUOTE="magnax1"][QUOTE="Franklinstein"] Ok, so what if it's a drug, so is advil, and tylenol, and aspirin, it doesn't matter, the government has no right to deny people freedoms, as long as they don't impose on other people's freedoms.Franklinstein
Yeah, they do when they cause danger to other people.
How is marijuana dangerous? Especially compared to LEGAL substances such as alcohol?In the same way that Alcohol is dangerous. I never said it was fair, I'm just telling you why. The government already has attempted to illegalize, and tax alcohol out of existence, so we know that it wouldn't be legal if possible.
Because it causes brain damagechris_yz80I think that they've actually disproven that, and even if it did, that causes no damage to other people, only one's self.
How is marijuana dangerous? Especially compared to LEGAL substances such as alcohol?[QUOTE="Franklinstein"][QUOTE="magnax1"]
Yeah, they do when they cause danger to other people.
magnax1
In the same way that Alcohol is dangerous. I never said it was fair, I'm just telling you why. The government already has attempted to illegalize, and tax alcohol out of existence, so we know that it wouldn't be legal if possible.
I mean, tell me how it's dangerous, it's not dangerous in the same way that alcohol is.I wouldn't protest legalizing it for free use in one's private home so long as there is no children in the household, and so long as one cannot smoke it, grow it, ect. in public places. Make a lot of restrictions, and I'm there for your right to screw with your body.Stevo_the_gamerThe more I research it, I'm actually starting to believe that it is beneficial to your body.
[QUOTE="Cherokee_Jack"]Stigma.FranklinsteinI don't think so, I think it's more because of this...
Because big business, tobacco and alcohol, don't want it legalized (more competition). Agent-ZeroI kind of agree with you, not only that, but also all the people that benefit from it being illegal. There's still a large (I'd say majority) segment of the voting population that thinks of marijuana as a "bad drug" and will view an attempt to legalize it as an advocation of "bad drugs", and as a move that only benefits current drug users. I don't doubt that there is some degree of influence from tobacco corporations, but I think the larger problem is that the voters are simply against it.
[QUOTE="chris_yz80"]Because it causes brain damageFranklinsteinI think that they've actually disproven that, and even if it did, that causes no damage to other people, only one's self. think secondary smoke
Ok, so what if it's a drug, so is advil, and tylenol, and aspirin, it doesn't matter, the government has no right to deny people freedoms, as long as they don't impose on other people's freedoms.[QUOTE="Franklinstein"][QUOTE="magnax1"]
Maybe because its a drug? You think that if Alcohol and Tobacco were still illegal they'd legalize them today?
magnax1
Yeah, they do when they cause danger to other people.
Alcohol is worse than marijuana.It should be legal. Just think of all the uses we could have for hemp. We could really use the tax money too.
I wouldn't protest legalizing it for free use in one's private home so long as there is no children in the household, and so long as one cannot smoke it, grow it, ect. in public places. Make a lot of restrictions, and I'm there for your right to screw with your body.Stevo_the_gamerThat's basically what it is now, unless you get caught, that is. (i think it should be illegal by the way)
[QUOTE="Franklinstein"][QUOTE="chris_yz80"]Because it causes brain damagechris_yz80I think that they've actually disproven that, and even if it did, that causes no damage to other people, only one's self. think secondary smoke Cigarettes cause cancer, heart and lung disease, etc. and second hand smoke causes all that as well.
[QUOTE="magnax1"][QUOTE="Franklinstein"] How is marijuana dangerous? Especially compared to LEGAL substances such as alcohol?Franklinstein
In the same way that Alcohol is dangerous. I never said it was fair, I'm just telling you why. The government already has attempted to illegalize, and tax alcohol out of existence, so we know that it wouldn't be legal if possible.
I mean, tell me how it's dangerous, it's not dangerous in the same way that alcohol is.Yeah it is. Impaired driving (though not as bad) and general stupidity.
What's the benefit from it again?Ringx55Apparently, one of the effects is that it makes you cool. I beg to differ though. heh. :P
[QUOTE="Ringx55"]What's the benefit from it again?Stevo_the_gamerApparently, one of the effects is that it makes you cool. I beg to differ though. heh. :P Good times is one of the benefits. :)
cause unlike alcohol, where there are ways to test how drunk you are. you can't test how high you are. RPG-erSure you can. It's directly correlated to how much you enjoy listening to the band Phish.
I mean, tell me how it's dangerous, it's not dangerous in the same way that alcohol is.[QUOTE="Franklinstein"][QUOTE="magnax1"]
In the same way that Alcohol is dangerous. I never said it was fair, I'm just telling you why. The government already has attempted to illegalize, and tax alcohol out of existence, so we know that it wouldn't be legal if possible.
magnax1
Yeah it is. Impaired driving (though not as bad) and general stupidity.
I don't think that "general stupidity" is a very good argument, I've seen pot heads that can easily out smart and intellectually out maneuver people that have never smoked.[QUOTE="Franklinstein"][QUOTE="chris_yz80"]Because it causes brain damagechris_yz80I think that they've actually disproven that, and even if it did, that causes no damage to other people, only one's self. think secondary smoke Marijuana doesn't have the same tar as cigarettes do. Marijuana has never been proven to lead to lung cancer. But there have been studies where prolonged extensive use raised chances of testicular cancer. Not likely though.
Marijuana doesn't have the same tar as cigarettes do. Marijuana has never been proven to lead to lung cancer. But there have been studies where prolonged extensive use raised chances of testicular cancer. Not likely though.sexy-hippoI've seen research which states that there's four times the amount of tar compared to cigarettes.
[QUOTE="magnax1"][QUOTE="Franklinstein"] I mean, tell me how it's dangerous, it's not dangerous in the same way that alcohol is. Franklinstein
Yeah it is. Impaired driving (though not as bad) and general stupidity.
I don't think that "general stupidity" is a very good argument, I've seen pot heads that can easily out smart and intellectually out maneuver people that have never smoked.Thats great, but either way your ability to think is impaired when you're high.
Anyway, I thought the point of this thread was to show why its illegal. Anybody can figure out why its illegal, what you wan't to know is why people dislike it.
[QUOTE="sexy-hippo"]Marijuana doesn't have the same tar as cigarettes do. Marijuana has never been proven to lead to lung cancer. But there have been studies where prolonged extensive use raised chances of testicular cancer. Not likely though.Stevo_the_gamerI've seen research which states that there's four times the amount of tar compared to cigarettes. Find out who conducted that research and then you'll see why I believe it's a conspiracy. It's not true, it's a flat out lie.
[QUOTE="magnax1"][QUOTE="Franklinstein"] I mean, tell me how it's dangerous, it's not dangerous in the same way that alcohol is. Franklinstein
Yeah it is. Impaired driving (though not as bad) and general stupidity.
I don't think that "general stupidity" is a very good argument, I've seen pot heads that can easily out smart and intellectually out maneuver people that have never smoked. However bad an argument that may or may not be, I'm pretty sure the one you just made is worse.What's the benefit from it again?Ringx55Stopping illegal distribution and the criminal activities surrounding that, for one.
[QUOTE="chris_yz80"][QUOTE="Franklinstein"] I think that they've actually disproven that, and even if it did, that causes no damage to other people, only one's self.sexy-hippothink secondary smoke Marijuana doesn't have the same tar as cigarettes do. Marijuana has never been proven to lead to lung cancer. But there have been studies where prolonged extensive use raised chances of testicular cancer. Not likely though. read between the lines, i was implying shared brain damage
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