Are atheists apes???

I think you've got science confused with math.

Silenthps

Science is responsible for every single technological advancement, ever. And you can't separate math from science. Math is largely simply the language of science; it has no real practical purpose except when applied to reality.

Christianity isn't a religion and if you don't understand that, then you wont understand %90 of what it is.

Silenthps

In what way is Christianity not a religion? :?

[QUOTE="Silenthps"][QUOTE="foxhound_fox"]Wow... just wow...

Christianity is just like mostly every other religion throughout human history. It has lead to countless religious-based conflicts between other sects of Christianity itself and other religions, especially Islam and has seen the death of countless millions of people. It started the Spanish Inquisition, the paranoia induced execution of completely innocent people for nothing more than being human enough to submit to torture and cry out that they are a witch because they just want the pain to stop.

Science leads to everything objective... which means it leads to medicine, modern electronic technology and weapons... but people don't fight over science, they fight over beliefs... and science isn't a belief, it is only a system of explaining observable facts. Too much of science is a wholly good thing. This world needs more unbiased objectivism... it will prevent a lot of people from getting hurt over differing religious beliefs.

Your misconceptions about science and blindness to the truth of Christianity is astounding. It is time to start accepting science not as a belief but as something that explain how the natural world works and gives you all the technology you take for granted. MattUD1

oh and the inquisition and all that was by the RCC, not Christianity. Christianity isn't a religion and if you don't understand that, then you wont understand %90 of what it is.

[QUOTE="MattUD1"] Catholicism is Christianity, in fact it pretty much WAS Christianity until Luther decided to lodge complaints.Silenthps

Let's not be sentimental about those things.

And whether you like it or not Catholicism IS a sect of Christianity, AND Christianity IS a religion. I hope the capitals help put those things into your brain even as just a consideration over-night; something to ponder about in your free time. >__>Teenaged

[QUOTE="Teenaged"]And whether you like it or not Catholicism IS a sect of Christianity, AND Christianity IS a religion. I hope the capitals help put those things into your brain even as just a consideration over-night; something to ponder about in your free time. >__>Silenthps

You can't just throw Jesus into your religion and act like thats a sect of Christianity. Saying catholicism is christianity is like saying mormonism is. Infact, Jesus is very important in islam either yet they're not considered christians. Catholics have soo many unbiblical teachings that are either not in the bible, or completely contradict the bible. They are in no way a representation of what true Christianity is. Silenthps

You are aware that Catholicism was the original Christianity, yes?

[QUOTE="Silenthps"]

I think you've got science confused with math.

GabuEx

Science is responsible for every single technological advancement, ever. And you can't separate math from science. Math is largely simply the language of science; it has no real practical purpose except when applied to reality.

Christianity isn't a religion and if you don't understand that, then you wont understand %90 of what it is.

Silenthps

In what way is Christianity not a religion? :?

[QUOTE="GabuEx"][QUOTE="Silenthps"]

I think you've got science confused with math.

Silenthps

Science is responsible for every single technological advancement, ever. And you can't separate math from science. Math is largely simply the language of science; it has no real practical purpose except when applied to reality.

Christianity isn't a religion and if you don't understand that, then you wont understand %90 of what it is.

Silenthps

In what way is Christianity not a religion? :?

[QUOTE="Silenthps"][QUOTE="Teenaged"]And whether you like it or not Catholicism IS a sect of Christianity, AND Christianity IS a religion. I hope the capitals help put those things into your brain even as just a consideration over-night; something to ponder about in your free time. >__>Teenaged

[QUOTE="Silenthps"][QUOTE="GabuEx"]

In what way is Christianity not a religion? :?

Funky_Llama

Yes but science isn't 100% objective.Silenthps

Yes, yes it is. It has a bunch of things that are asserted and which are then experimentally either verified or disproven. Scientists may not be 100% objective, but that doesn't mean that science is not.

And it's not a religion because its just straight up reality. Silenthps

re⋅li⋅gion[ri-lij-uhn]
–noun

1. a set of beliefs concerning the cause, nature, and purpose of the universe (yes), esp. when considered as the creation of a superhuman agency or agencies (yes), usually involving devotional and ritual observances (yes), and often containing a moral code governing the conduct of human affairs (yes).

Please show me the parts of the definition of "religion" that Christianity does not meet.

[QUOTE="Silenthps"]You can't just throw Jesus into your religion and act like thats a sect of Christianity. Saying catholicism is christianity is like saying mormonism is. Infact, Jesus is very important in islam either yet they're not considered christians. Catholics have soo many unbiblical teachings that are either not in the bible, or completely contradict the bible. They are in no way a representation of what true Christianity is. GabuEx

You are aware that Catholicism was the original Christianity, yes?

[QUOTE="Funky_Llama"][QUOTE="Silenthps"] Yes but science isn't 100% objective. And it's not a religion because its just straight up reality. Silenthps

[QUOTE="Teenaged"]And whether you like it or not Catholicism IS a sect of Christianity, AND Christianity IS a religion. I hope the capitals help put those things into your brain even as just a consideration over-night; something to ponder about in your free time. >__>Silenthps

An opinion is just an opinion, and the Bible whether many Christians like it or not, is subject to many opinions.

It doesn't mean literally, it means that what seperates humans from Apes is our ability to rationalize and make connections. One of the connections we made was life after death.

Oh, I should probably address something that's been bothering me: you can't believe or not believe in science, because science is fact. Whether you believe in it or not, Chimpanzees have 97% the same DNA as us.

However, you believe in religions. In order to believe, there has to be no definitive proof it exists, or it would be fact. Therefore, what seperates humans from Apes, is the ability to make assumptions that are not based on data obtained by our senses, i.e. believe God made earth so you can explain how it got here. Etc.

[QUOTE="Silenthps"]Yes but science isn't 100% objective.GabuEx

Yes, yes it is. It has a bunch of things that are asserted and which are then experimentally either verified or disproven. Scientists may not be 100% objective, but that doesn't mean that science is not.

And it's not a religion because its just straight up reality. Silenthps

re⋅li⋅gion[ri-lij-uhn]
–noun

1. a set of beliefs concerning the cause, nature, and purpose of the universe (yes), esp. when considered as the creation of a superhuman agency or agencies (yes), usually involving devotional and ritual observances (yes), and often containing a moral code governing the conduct of human affairs (yes).

Please show me the parts of the definition of "religion" that Christianity does not meet.

Jesus certainly wasn't a catholic. Silenthps

Jesus wasn't a Christian either.

For over a thousand years, Roman Catholicism (although it obviously wasn't called that) was the only form of Christianity in existence.

That definition of religion is false. And Christianity isn't really a set of belief's. Its just true and if you don't believe it then your just wrong. Silenthps

Well, I'm glad to know you're so open for discussion. :P

That definition of religion is false. And Christianity isn't really a set of belief's. Its just true and if you don't believe it then your just wrong. Silenthps

[QUOTE="Silenthps"][QUOTE="Teenaged"]And whether you like it or not Catholicism IS a sect of Christianity, AND Christianity IS a religion. I hope the capitals help put those things into your brain even as just a consideration over-night; something to ponder about in your free time. >__>Teenaged

An opinion is just an opinion, and the Bible whether many Christians like it or not, is subject to many opinions.

[QUOTE="GabuEx"]

[QUOTE="Silenthps"]Yes but science isn't 100% objective.Silenthps

Yes, yes it is. It has a bunch of things that are asserted and which are then experimentally either verified or disproven. Scientists may not be 100% objective, but that doesn't mean that science is not.

And it's not a religion because its just straight up reality. Silenthps

re⋅li⋅gion[ri-lij-uhn]
–noun

1. a set of beliefs concerning the cause, nature, and purpose of the universe (yes), esp. when considered as the creation of a superhuman agency or agencies (yes), usually involving devotional and ritual observances (yes), and often containing a moral code governing the conduct of human affairs (yes).

Please show me the parts of the definition of "religion" that Christianity does not meet.

Calm down, we are not bashing anyone's beliefs in here...

Or are you just trolling??

[QUOTE="Teenaged"]

[QUOTE="Silenthps"]You can't just throw Jesus into your religion and act like thats a sect of Christianity. Saying catholicism is christianity is like saying mormonism is. Infact, Jesus is very important in islam either yet they're not considered christians. Catholics have soo many unbiblical teachings that are either not in the bible, or completely contradict the bible. They are in no way a representation of what true Christianity is. Silenthps

An opinion is just an opinion, and the Bible whether many Christians like it or not, is subject to many opinions.

Having said that, we are in the position to only assume things about the Bible and choose a direction to take. It is only natural that some people will dissagree with certain interpretations and think of their own. Those interpretations are not better nor worse, they are just different and imo should be respected, because one way or another neither you or me are sure about what the Bible says in key-points 100%. We can assume, we can dissagree or disagree. That is an entirely different issue...

[QUOTE="Silenthps"][QUOTE="Funky_Llama"]Since when was being 'straight up reality' mutually exclusive with being a religion? :roll:Vanadium2k8

[QUOTE="Silenthps"][QUOTE="Teenaged"]They don't just throw Jesus into their religion and you know it. This is an exaggerated and over-simplified statement that summarizes your dissagreement with the Catholic dogma. But that means nothing in reality.

An opinion is just an opinion, and the Bible whether many Christians like it or not, is subject to many opinions.

Teenaged

Having said that, we are in the position to only assume things about the Bible and choose a direction to take. It is only natural that some people will dissagree with certain interpretations and think of their own. Those interpretations are not better nor worse, they are just different and imo should be respected, because one way or another neither you or me are sure about what the Bible says in key-points 100%. We can assume, we can dissagree or disagree. That is an entirely different issue...

[QUOTE="Vanadium2k8"][QUOTE="Silenthps"]Since Christianity is the only "religion" that's true. Silenthps

Silenthps wins /threadAlmighty_God

To answer your second question, TC, our ancestors buried their dead with gifts not because of the afterlife, but because of attachment. They developed the emotional attachment to their family, and when one died, they felt sad, just as you would, and giving them gifts is a way of making ourselves feel better (i.e. now many people send cards to the deceased, merely to help themselves say goodbye).

[QUOTE="Vanadium2k8"][QUOTE="Silenthps"]Since Christianity is the only "religion" that's true. Silenthps

Do you actually know what Catholics believe as opposed to Christians? Their beliefs are too far out there to be considered Christian. Silenthps

[QUOTE="Silenthps"]Jesus certainly wasn't a catholic. GabuEx

Jesus wasn't a Christian either.

For over a thousand years, Roman Catholicism (although it obviously wasn't called that) was the only form of Christianity in existence.

[QUOTE="Silenthps"][QUOTE="Vanadium2k8"] What is that suppose to mean and how are you so sure?PovietSanda

The thread title was fantastic.Jandurin

[QUOTE="Jandurin"]The thread title was fantastic.fanboy-buster

[QUOTE="PovietSanda"][QUOTE="Silenthps"]I'm sure because when we all die, God himself will let us know who's right.Silenthps

[QUOTE="Silenthps"][QUOTE="PovietSanda"] Or when you die, your body goes into a state of unconsciousness from which it never recovers and after organ function ceases, tissue decay begins to set in. With the aid of bacteria and other outside influences the body eventually decomposes into raw nutrient matter. No god, no judgment, no purpose. Isn't life just easier that way?Teenaged

I'm not trolling...

...well ok i guess i was having a little fun with the whole christianity isn't a religion cause its true thing (although i still believe it) I'll give a less close minded response to why its not a religion after i get back from church.

peace

I'm not trolling...Silenthps

[QUOTE="Funky_Llama"][QUOTE="Silenthps"] Yes but science isn't 100% objective. And it's not a religion because its just straight up reality. Silenthps

Well, to start, I am disappointed with this thread. After reading the title, I got all excited that I was gonna earn a good laugh out of some Christian extremist and possibly find some new quotes for FSTDT. Instead, I am given this loathesome thread. The only creationist in this thread is silenthps, and everybody else got done dealing with him already.

Second, your science teacher (or whoever you gained that information about) is an idiot. What separates humans from other primates isn't our beliefs, but our genetic structure. Although humans are certainly one of the four great apes (alongside gorillas, chimpanzees and orangutans), atheists aren't any less human than, say, a Jew or a Muslim. The fact that humans began to believe in an afterlife early within their existance only shows an increase in intelligence through evolution--the actual beliefs don't make us human or not.

Well, to start, I am disappointed with this thread. After reading the title, I got all excited that I was gonna earn a good laugh out of some Christian extremist and possibly find some new quotes for FSTDT. Instead, I am given this loathesome thread. The only creationist in this thread is silenthps, and everybody else got done dealing with him already.

Second, your science teacher (or whoever you gained that information about) is an idiot. What separates humans from other primates isn't our beliefs, but our genetic structure. Although humans are certainly one of the four great apes (alongside gorillas, chimpanzees and orangutans), atheists aren't any less human than, say, a Jew or a Muslim. The fact that humans began to believe in an afterlife early within their existance only shows an increase in intelligence through evolution--the actual beliefs don't make us human or not.

-Jiggles-

[QUOTE="-Jiggles-"]

Well, to start, I am disappointed with this thread. After reading the title, I got all excited that I was gonna earn a good laugh out of some Christian extremist and possibly find some new quotes for FSTDT. Instead, I am given this loathesome thread. The only creationist in this thread is silenthps, and everybody else got done dealing with him already.

Second, your science teacher (or whoever you gained that information about) is an idiot. What separates humans from other primates isn't our beliefs, but our genetic structure. Although humans are certainly one of the four great apes (alongside gorillas, chimpanzees and orangutans), atheists aren't any less human than, say, a Jew or a Muslim. The fact that humans began to believe in an afterlife early within their existance only shows an increase in intelligence through evolution--the actual beliefs don't make us human or not.

Teenaged

Hence, an idiot.

To the TC: I'd recommend you spend more time reading a science textbook than listening to whatever your teacher has to say. His opinion is obviously diluted with bias and that could negatively affect your own education as well.