Are martial arts effective in street fights ?

[QUOTE="lo_Pine"][QUOTE="October_Tide"]

A hit to the the nuts doesn't have to be hard and I would assume most people would not be expecting it, because really who wants to fight like a girl?

October_Tide

You are under the assumption that martial arts magically makes the opponent unable to stop/block/dodge any blows. You are also under the assumption that the blows would do enough damage first time around, they may or may not. Unless you know your opponent, then no fight is that black and white.

Therefore shot to the balls winz teh game. Whether you can land a hit, well that's just another matter.

what if the rapist was also a martial artist? I've played enough street fighter to know its effective..OmegaAxl

no, the rapist probably too busy unzipping his pants unless...the rapist is a woman and the victim is a man then its going to be a very awkward public sex :P

I would let the person tackle me.. then I would grab his nuts squeeze as hard as I can twisting in all directions.. When he begs for mercy.. I would just keep squeezing and twisting untill he threw up and was crying... THen I would stand up and stomp on his nuts about 5-10 times more.

Somewhat relevant and awesome.

BluRayHiDef

Judo is effective in street fighting, since it's about grabbing your attackers clothes and throw him down, hard, on the ground.

A good judo throw on concrete can cause serious injuries and even be quite deadly.

That being said, a small thin girl who maybe didn't really "earn" her blackbelt is still an easy target to larger stronger male. I'm sorry girls, it's just a sad fact.

Besides Judo, Muay Thai works well as does boxing, wrestling, jiu-jitsu and combat sambo.

Early UFC, where there was hardly any rules, showed the strengths of Jiu-Jitsu (Royce Gracie), Sambo/Judo (Oleg Taktarov), Wrestling (Randy Couture), Muay Thai (Pedro Rizzo). Black belts in Karate and Taekwondo, even Kung Fu martial artists, always got their asses handed to them.

Example.

BluRayHiDef

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Example.

Victorious_Fize

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Example.

m25105

I don't mean to sound like a dick, but MMA (particulary early UFC where there was hardly any rules at all) showed how ineffective alot styles was against seasoned fighters, who weren't intimidated.

I don't mean to sound like a dick, but MMA (particulary early UFC where there was hardly any rules at all) showed how ineffective alot styles was against seasoned fighters, who weren't intimidated.

m25105

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I don't mean to sound like a dick, but MMA (particulary early UFC where there was hardly any rules at all) showed how ineffective alot styles was against seasoned fighters, who weren't intimidated.

Victorious_Fize

It really depends on the person practicing it.

A guy with a weak will, can put as many hours in a dojo as he can, put him up against a seasoned brawler with no fighting credentials and he'll lose. However if you're tough (mentally), and you spar a lot (How are you going to become a good fighter, if you never fight? A swimmer swims to get better, a fighter fights), got good balance and can sprawl and avoid being taken down, then it's pretty much sick.

It all depends on YOU the person and your mind.

[QUOTE="m25105"][QUOTE="Victorious_Fize"] I don't know, I've seen Bruce Lee do some pretty incredible things.Victorious_Fize

Bruce Lee, was a visionist. He took what was effective from each art and incorporate into what would work for self defense and street fighting. His encounter with Gene LeBell, while he played Kato in the Green Hornet series for example, introduced him to the concept of effective grappling.

Master the testicle attacks... and you will lose no fight.. I've gotten into five fights.. all five ended up on the floor crying clenching onto their sacks.

[QUOTE="Victorious_Fize"][QUOTE="m25105"]

I don't mean to sound like a dick, but MMA (particulary early UFC where there was hardly any rules at all) showed how ineffective alot styles was against seasoned fighters, who weren't intimidated.

m25105

It really depends on the person practicing it.

A guy with a weak will, can put as many hours in a dojo as he can, put him up against a seasoned brawler with no fighting credentials and he'll lose. However if you're tough (mentally), and you spar a lot (How are you going to become a good fighter, if you never fight? A swimmer swims to get better, a fighter fights), got good balance and can sprawl and avoid being taken down, then it's pretty much sick.

It all depends on YOU the person and your mind.

[QUOTE="Victorious_Fize"][QUOTE="m25105"] If you read Bruce Lee's book you can see he incorporated a lot of boxing technique in his style, since it's far more effective. He may have started with Wing Chun, but he evolved. m25105

Bruce Lee, was a visionist. He took what was effective from each art and incorporate into what would work for self defense and street fighting. His encounter with Gene LeBell, while he Kato in the Green Hornet series for example, introduced him to the concept of effective grappling.

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[QUOTE="Victorious_Fize"] I wouldn't be surprised if this is true. Martial arts tend to be a little fantastical, I'll say.Victorious_Fize

Bruce Lee, was a visionist. He took what was effective from each art and incorporate into what would work for self defense and street fighting. His encounter with Gene LeBell, while he Kato in the Green Hornet series for example, introduced him to the concept of effective grappling.

Cung Le Highlights

Best defense is being aware and not getting into problems. 2nd best is a gun that you are trained with and or real mace. Third is being in shape because martial arts are not very effective if you are weak,slow with no stamina. If you can not win then run.

noscope-ak47

If you can win, running is still a good idea.

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Bruce Lee, was a visionist. He took what was effective from each art and incorporate into what would work for self defense and street fighting. His encounter with Gene LeBell, while he Kato in the Green Hornet series for example, introduced him to the concept of effective grappling.

m25105

Cung Le Highlights

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[QUOTE="Victorious_Fize"] I see, Bruce Lee was quite pragmatic then. And I will check out the fighters you listed.Victorious_Fize

Cung Le Highlights

[QUOTE="Victorious_Fize"][QUOTE="m25105"] If you read Bruce Lee's book you can see he incorporated a lot of boxing technique in his style, since it's far more effective. He may have started with Wing Chun, but he evolved. m25105

Bruce Lee, was a visionist. He took what was effective from each art and incorporate into what would work for self defense and street fighting. His encounter with Gene LeBell, while he played Kato in the Green Hornet series for example, introduced him to the concept of effective grappling.

Bruce Lee was a visionary and he did incorporate many techniques into his style. But he started with Wing Chun

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[QUOTE="Victorious_Fize"] I wouldn't be surprised if this is true. Martial arts tend to be a little fantastical, I'll say.sayyy-gaa

Bruce Lee, was a visionist. He took what was effective from each art and incorporate into what would work for self defense and street fighting. His encounter with Gene LeBell, while he played Kato in the Green Hornet series for example, introduced him to the concept of effective grappling.

Bruce Lee was a visionary and he did incorporate many techniques into his style. But he started with Wing Chun

Many modern "martial arts" are really martial sports. The efficacy of them in an actual combat scenerio depend entire on just how much si sport and how much is martially sound technique. It will of course also depend on the individual's mentality, strength, size, and skill.

The best modern martial arts tend to be the ones that focus on simple, effective techniques that have been used in combat since time immeomorial, from ancient peoples, to the Romans, to Knights and Samurai, etc.

As a rule of thumb, the flashier, the less effective.

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Bruce Lee, was a visionist. He took what was effective from each art and incorporate into what would work for self defense and street fighting. His encounter with Gene LeBell, while he played Kato in the Green Hornet series for example, introduced him to the concept of effective grappling.

m25105

Bruce Lee was a visionary and he did incorporate many techniques into his style. But he started with Wing Chun

Bruce lee was good because he was in shape and trained very hard. Most people taking any martial art half ass it, just like guys at the gym.

[QUOTE="Victorious_Fize"][QUOTE="m25105"] Anthony Pettis Highlight

Cung Le Highlights

m25105

If your name is Jackie Chan then yes, it's very effective.

I don't get in street fights. Are you tc?

If you actually know the art well and have the mental fortitude to pull it off in a real world situation then yes but the thing is very few situations are handled by hand to hand combat these days. Your usually looking down the barrel of a gun and martial arts aren't gonna be of too much help then.

[QUOTE="m25105"][QUOTE="Victorious_Fize"] That is some sweet kicking right there!Victorious_Fize

These are probably considered the best (currently or past) in MMA.

I did not include a lot of other fighters, since it would take too long. But honoury mentions to, B.J. Penn, Mauricio Rua, Jon Jones, Georges St-Pierre and Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira.

Fedor Emelianenkohighlight

Note: This was made in 2009 when Fedor was still undefeated (except from a cut that occured 11 seconds in the first round). He's rebounding now after suffering losses from Fabricio Werdum, Antonio Silva and Dan Henderson.

Fedor is a former Pride Heavyweight Champion, Wamma Champion and Rings Tournament Champion. Considered by many Mix Martial artists, along with B.J. Penn, Anderson and Georges St-Pierre, the greatest of all time. Most notable feat, undeafted in almost 10 years straight.

Base: Judo and Combat Sambo.

Anderson Silvahighlight

Note: Current UFC Middleweight champion and former Cage Rage Champion, undefeated in the UFC. Holding records for most defences of a title and most consequtive wins. Probably the best striker in MMA. Very lethal punches and kicks, despite a deceiving frame. Considered one of the greatest of all time.

Base: Muay Thai and Jiu-Jitsu.

Wanderlei Silvahighlight

Note: Former Pride Middleweight champion (Pride Middleweight is the same as UFC Lightheavyweight). One of the most aggressive fighters in MMA. A human pitbull, who keeps coming forward.

Base: Muay Thai and Jiu-Jitsu.

If you actually know the art well and have the mental fortitude to pull it off in a real world situation then yes but the thing is very few situations are handled by hand to hand combat these days. Your usually looking down the barrel of a gun and martial arts aren't gonna be of too much help then.

Gen007

The people who say "depending on the art" are wrong. Sure some arts may be superior than others in some areas, but for the most part, it is not the person with the "better art" that wins. There is no one art to rule them all. It's the person who has trained more diligent in their specific art that will come out on top.

Second of all, I'm not surprised that the people who try doing "crazy backflip super kicks" aren't prosperous in their fighting. Usually the fancier it is, the less effective it is. Simplicity and efficiency is key. One shot, one kill is optimal.

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[QUOTE="m25105"] I'm curious, do you want to see the best fighters?m25105

These are probably considered the best (currently or past) in MMA.

I did not include a lot of other fighters, since it would take too long. But honoury mentions to, B.J. Penn, Mauricio Rua, Jon Jones, Georges St-Pierre and Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira.

Fedor Emelianenkohighlight

Note: This was made in 2009 when Fedor was still undefeated (except from a cut that occured 11 seconds in the first round). He's rebounding now after suffering losses from Fabricio Werdum, Antionio Silva and Dan Henderson.

Fedor is a former Pride Heavyweight Champion, Wamma Champion and Rings Tournament Champion. Considered by many Mix Martial artists, along with B.J. Penn, Anderson and Georges St-Pierre, the greatest of all time. Most notable feat, undeafted in almost 10 years straight.

Base: Judo and Combat Sambo.

Anderson Silvahighlight

Note: Current UFC Middleweight champion and former Cage Rage Champion, undefeated in the UFC. Holding records for most defences of a title and most consequtive wins. Probably the best striker in MMA. Very lethal punches and kicks, despite a deceiving frame. Considered one of the greatest of all time.

Base: Muay Thai and Jiu-Jitsu.

Wanderlei Silvahighlight

Note: Former Pride Middleweight champion (Pride Middleweight is the same as UFC Lightheavyweight). One of the most aggressive fighters in MMA. A human pitbull, who keeps coming forward.

Base: Muay Thai and Jiu-Jitsu.

That was amazing!

Depends on the person. If you actually have to defend yourself, I wouldn't want to have to rely on martial arts. All your training could go right out the window when the shlt hits the fan.

Pirate700

I have to agree here.

I would assume that those who are trained to fight would do better in an altercation than those who are not.

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Depends on the person. If you actually have to defend yourself, I wouldn't want to have to rely on martial arts. All your training could go right out the window when the shlt hits the fan.

DeadMan1290

I have to agree here.

It's true. All of the punches, all of the kicks, everything you trained for, can turn to crap right there. That's why I can't stress enough how important the mental and spiritual aspects of the martial arts are. If you're in a conflict, it's natural to get the butterflys... But how you use those nerves to assist you, and not have them work against you, is the deciding factor. Fight or flight? have you been throwing your strikes half assed during training? or have you been throwing them with confidence and precision as though you're delivering a killing blow every time? You need to keep your cool, and deliver when promted. You must stay in your "true centre". Your true centre means that you act so as not to lose. Do not raise your spirit higher than that of an opponent (overconfidence), but do not lower it beneath your opponent as your technique will become sloppy. If you stay in your "natural state", the state in which you go about training, during a battle, you will be successful. Without excess or deficiency.

Well, what was the situation of the woman you heard about that got raped?

Was she out partying and drunk? Was it someone she trusted and suddenly turned on her?

Was she asleep and someone broke in.

Did he put a gun to her head and threaten to kill her or her family if she didn't comply?

What is the size of her and the size of him?

You need to know all the facts before drawing a conclusion.

Depends. Boxing, Kickboxing, Muay Thai, etc are pretty effective. Jui Jitsu? Probably not so much unless you and the guy are alone.

As a rule of thumb, if something looks really really cool to do, it probably wouldn't work on the streets.

Jolt_counter119

Kyokushin certainly helped me in 1v1, but fighting several ppl at once, you'll have no chance no matter how many forms of MA you know

Kyokushin certainly helped me in 1v1, but fighting several ppl at once, you'll have no chance no matter how many forms of MA you know

Postal_Guy

1 vs. many street fight

Learn some boxing, that sh!t will take care of the rest.Bloodseeker23

[QUOTE="Bloodseeker23"]Learn some boxing, that sh!t will take care of the rest.Andrew_Xavier