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#51 DroidPhysX
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[QUOTE="DroidPhysX"][QUOTE="StRaItJaCkEt36"]

It's a personality disorder caused by environmental factors that have degenerated specific structures of a persons genetics. it's not a choice, but people aren't born that way either. It's something that happens to them after they're born. Like getting sick.

StRaItJaCkEt36

Brush up on a little science there chap.

where is your science that shows my science is wrong?

>using science

>Being gay is personality disorder

I think you just proved my point

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#52 StRaItJaCkEt36
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[QUOTE="StRaItJaCkEt36"][QUOTE="DroidPhysX"] Brush up on a little science there chap.DroidPhysX
where is your science that shows my science is wrong?

Implying your using science

http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,1952313,00.html

my conclusions are souly my own based on other areas of study. there still needs to be tests done based on my hypothesis.

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Yeah, people who think you're not born gay or think it's exclusively down to one's environment don't know what they're really talking about. It's wiring.

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#54 Grey_Eyed_Elf
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With guys you can just tell from a early age... the dudes gay sometimes its harder to tell if they fight it. For women... not sure I always assumed most lesbians just hated men or are bisexual.
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I do not think it is a learned behavior. There are gay people in every country across every culture. In most places, it's looked down upon, so why would anyone willingly choose to be gay I think it's a way people are born. It's not their fault and they should not be persecuted for it. Besides, what's the big deal? That just means more women for me and having a few guy friends that can really tell me how to dress sharp. What's not to like?

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#56 Ilovegames1992
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Punishment by God definitely.

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It's a choice. I'm naturally attracted to females, but I chose to ignore my urges and decide to have sex with men whom I have no natural urge to be with I just do it for the hell of it. :roll:

To be able to choose your sexuality would mean that you are able to control the release of hormones just by will alone, which is a pretty amazing feet.

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#58 DroidPhysX
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Punishment by God definitely.

Ilovegames1992
Same god that created them?
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It's a personality disorder caused by environmental factors that have degenerated specific structures of a persons genetics. it's not a choice, but people aren't born that way either. It's something that happens to them after they're born. Like getting sick.

StRaItJaCkEt36
Michele Bachmann, is that you?
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#60 StRaItJaCkEt36
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[QUOTE="StRaItJaCkEt36"]

It's a personality disorder caused by environmental factors that have degenerated specific structures of a persons genetics. it's not a choice, but people aren't born that way either. It's something that happens to them after they're born. Like getting sick.

Engrish_Major
Michele Bachmann, is that you?

what's wrong with you people? You fight so hard to imply that there is something wrong with people who think being gay is a negative thing. And I didn't even say it was negative. I just said what the science will show.
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#61 Ilovegames1992
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[QUOTE="Ilovegames1992"]

Punishment by God definitely.

DroidPhysX

Same god that created them?

;) He works in mysterious ways bro'

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#62 Engrish_Major
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[QUOTE="Engrish_Major"][QUOTE="StRaItJaCkEt36"]

It's a personality disorder caused by environmental factors that have degenerated specific structures of a persons genetics. it's not a choice, but people aren't born that way either. It's something that happens to them after they're born. Like getting sick.

StRaItJaCkEt36
Michele Bachmann, is that you?

what's wrong with you people? You fight so hard to imply that there is something wrong with people who think being gay is a negative thing. And I didn't even say it was negative. I just said what the science will show.

"personality disorder" "degenerated" "sick" Science? I think not.
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[QUOTE="DroidPhysX"][QUOTE="Ilovegames1992"]

Punishment by God definitely.

Ilovegames1992

Same god that created them?

;) He works in mysterious ways bro'

Critically flawed ways, yes.
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[QUOTE="Engrish_Major"][QUOTE="StRaItJaCkEt36"]

It's a personality disorder caused by environmental factors that have degenerated specific structures of a persons genetics. it's not a choice, but people aren't born that way either. It's something that happens to them after they're born. Like getting sick.

StRaItJaCkEt36

Michele Bachmann, is that you?

what's wrong with you people? You fight so hard to imply that there is something wrong with people who think being gay is a negative thing. And I didn't even say it was negative. I just said what the science will show.

sa

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#65 StRaItJaCkEt36
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[QUOTE="StRaItJaCkEt36"][QUOTE="Engrish_Major"] Michele Bachmann, is that you?Engrish_Major
what's wrong with you people? You fight so hard to imply that there is something wrong with people who think being gay is a negative thing. And I didn't even say it was negative. I just said what the science will show.

"personality disorder" "degenerated" "sick" Science? I think not.

if you have a negative connection to those words and assume terrible things from them. That says more about your culture than anything else.

People are too sensitive over these issues. Both sides have to have a watch your tongue attitude. And take everything as some form of personal attack. It's PC nonsense.

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#66 Ilovegames1992
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[QUOTE="Ilovegames1992"]

[QUOTE="DroidPhysX"] Same god that created them?DroidPhysX

;) He works in mysterious ways bro'

Critically flawed ways, yes.

*Mysterious

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[QUOTE="StRaItJaCkEt36"] if you have a negative connection to those words and assume terrible things from them. That says more about your culture than anything else.

That's fine. At least your campaign is doomed and you'll never be president.
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[QUOTE="DroidPhysX"][QUOTE="Ilovegames1992"]

;) He works in mysterious ways bro'

Ilovegames1992

Critically flawed ways, yes.

*Mysterious

Got to cover up the flaws somehow.
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#69 StRaItJaCkEt36
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[QUOTE="Engrish_Major"][QUOTE="StRaItJaCkEt36"] if you have a negative connection to those words and assume terrible things from them. That says more about your culture than anything else.

That's fine. At least your campaign is doomed and you'll never be president.

The best way to promote gay rights is to get the scientific truth out there. Not to worry about sensitivity issues and gasp every time somebody says something you find remotely inappropriate for biased reasons.
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[QUOTE="Ilovegames1992"]

[QUOTE="DroidPhysX"] Critically flawed ways, yes.DroidPhysX

*Mysterious

Got to cover up the flaws somehow.

Flaws? God is flawless, you will know this soon enough.

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[QUOTE="DroidPhysX"][QUOTE="Ilovegames1992"]

*Mysterious

Ilovegames1992

Got to cover up the flaws somehow.

Flaws? God is flawless, you will know this soon enough.

How will I know? I don't believe in God. :? Too many flaws for my liking.
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[QUOTE="Engrish_Major"][QUOTE="StRaItJaCkEt36"] if you have a negative connection to those words and assume terrible things from them. That says more about your culture than anything else.StRaItJaCkEt36
That's fine. At least your campaign is doomed and you'll never be president.

The best way to promote gay rights is to get the scientific truth out there. Not to worry about sensitivity issues and gasp every time somebody says something you find remotely inappropriate for biased reasons.

Personally I dont see why some people would want scientific reasons to make them feel that homosexuality should be accepted.

I dont want people to accept me just because they are aware they cant change me (in case its a 100% immutable and unpreventable characteristic) or because it's something I cant control. That kinda tells me that people will either quit when they know they cant "win" or when they start feeling bad about me, while there are other simpler reasons to do so.

Scientific reasons are interesting to find for those who are interested in biology and/or psychology, for those who take part in arguments where the opposition brings up related premises or for those who are just curious for one reason or another.

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#73 Ilovegames1992
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[QUOTE="Ilovegames1992"]

[QUOTE="DroidPhysX"] Got to cover up the flaws somehow.DroidPhysX

Flaws? God is flawless, you will know this soon enough.

How will I know? I don't believe in God. :? Too many flaws for my liking.

So? God doesnt care.

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In my opinion. It's nurture. Not in the direct sense. It's not like having gay parents or anythng would change it. But I've always felt that the experiences that you have as a child. No mater how insignificant, can have a drastic effect on your adult self. I really don't see how it could be genetic.
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#75 DroidPhysX
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[QUOTE="DroidPhysX"][QUOTE="Ilovegames1992"]

Flaws? God is flawless, you will know this soon enough.

Ilovegames1992

How will I know? I don't believe in God. :? Too many flaws for my liking.

So? God doesnt care.

Tempted to ask for proof of the existence of god. But then again, thats a loaded question. amirite or amirite?
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[QUOTE="DroidPhysX"][QUOTE="Ilovegames1992"]

Flaws? God is flawless, you will know this soon enough.

Ilovegames1992

How will I know? I don't believe in God. :? Too many flaws for my liking.

So? God doesnt care.

I agree, on the tiny chance that god does exsit, she certainly doesn't care.

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[QUOTE="Ilovegames1992"]

[QUOTE="DroidPhysX"] How will I know? I don't believe in God. :? Too many flaws for my liking. tenaka2

So? God doesnt care.

I agree, on the tiny chance that god does exsit, she certainly doesn't care.

God's an androgynous wombat.

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#78 Ilovegames1992
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[QUOTE="Ilovegames1992"]

[QUOTE="DroidPhysX"] How will I know? I don't believe in God. :? Too many flaws for my liking. DroidPhysX

So? God doesnt care.

Tempted to ask for proof of the existence of god. But then again, thats a loaded question. amirite or amirite?

Do you like marmite?

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[QUOTE="DroidPhysX"][QUOTE="Ilovegames1992"]

So? God doesnt care.

Ilovegames1992

Tempted to ask for proof of the existence of god. But then again, thats a loaded question. amirite or amirite?

Do you like marmite?

And thus, God is not real but a figment of the human imagination that started when humans could form thoughts.
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[QUOTE="StRaItJaCkEt36"][QUOTE="Engrish_Major"] That's fine. At least your campaign is doomed and you'll never be president.Teenaged

The best way to promote gay rights is to get the scientific truth out there. Not to worry about sensitivity issues and gasp every time somebody says something you find remotely inappropriate for biased reasons.

Personally I dont see why some people would want scientific reasons to make them feel that homosexuality should be accepted.

I dont want people to accept me just because they are aware they cant change me (in case its a 100% immutable and unpreventable characteristic) or because it's something I cant control. That kinda tells me that people will either quit when they know they cant "win" or when they start feeling bad about me, while there are other simpler reasons to do so.

Scientific reasons are interesting to find for those who are interested in biology and/or psychology, for those who take part in arguments where the opposition brings up related premises or for those who are just curious for one reason or another.

People should be accepted on their individual merits. I don't think being gay should be an issue. And that's my entire point of what I'm saying to MR. Engrish. I'm concerned when people act aggressively, as if to protect homosexuals from discrimination. When there is no discrimination. I don't think I should be insulted because I think there is a specific way science can explain homosexuality that he may disagree with.
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Born that way = GaGa
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[QUOTE="Ilovegames1992"]

[QUOTE="DroidPhysX"] Tempted to ask for proof of the existence of god. But then again, thats a loaded question. amirite or amirite? DroidPhysX

Do you like marmite?

And thus, God is not real but a figment of the human imagination that started when humans could form thoughts.

You didnt answer the question.

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[QUOTE="DroidPhysX"][QUOTE="Ilovegames1992"]

Do you like marmite?

Ilovegames1992

And thus, God is not real but a figment of the human imagination that started when humans could form thoughts.

You didnt answer the question.

Nor did you answer mine.
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Of course you aren't born gay you go through puberty years later. *ba dum tish
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It think it's mostly nature, but can be nurture in some cases.

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[QUOTE="Ilovegames1992"]

[QUOTE="DroidPhysX"] And thus, God is not real but a figment of the human imagination that started when humans could form thoughts.DroidPhysX

You didnt answer the question.

Nor did you answer mine.

I answered your question with another question. So, answer my question. If you don't, God is real.

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[QUOTE="DroidPhysX"][QUOTE="Ilovegames1992"]

You didnt answer the question.

Ilovegames1992

Nor did you answer mine.

I answered your question with another question. So, answer my question. If you don't, God is real.

Nice proof. Wait, never mind.
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[QUOTE="Ilovegames1992"]

[QUOTE="DroidPhysX"] Nor did you answer mine.DroidPhysX

I answered your question with another question. So, answer my question. If you don't, God is real.

Nice proof. Wait, never mind.

Are you going to answer my question or not?

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[QUOTE="DroidPhysX"][QUOTE="Ilovegames1992"]

I answered your question with another question. So, answer my question. If you don't, God is real.

Ilovegames1992

Nice proof. Wait, never mind.

Are you going to answer my question or not?

With another question like this?
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[QUOTE="Ilovegames1992"]

[QUOTE="DroidPhysX"] Nice proof. Wait, never mind.DroidPhysX

Are you going to answer my question or not?

With another question like this?

I take it you're an athiest?

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[QUOTE="DroidPhysX"][QUOTE="Ilovegames1992"]

Are you going to answer my question or not?

Ilovegames1992

With another question like this?

I take it you're an athiest?

Woah, what was the giveaway?
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[QUOTE="Ilovegames1992"]

[QUOTE="DroidPhysX"] With another question like this?DroidPhysX

I take it you're an athiest?

Woah, what was the giveaway?

Your inability to answer my question without trying to be clever.

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[QUOTE="DroidPhysX"][QUOTE="Ilovegames1992"]

I take it you're an athiest?

Ilovegames1992

Woah, what was the giveaway?

Your inability to answer my question without trying to be clever.

I don't know. Those religious people who blindly think god exists without any proof can match that description.
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[QUOTE="Ilovegames1992"]

[QUOTE="DroidPhysX"] Woah, what was the giveaway? DroidPhysX

Your inability to answer my question without trying to be clever.

I don't know. Those religious people who blindly think god exists without any proof can match that description.

I've never talked to a smarmy theist, most of them don't really have that attitude.

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Do people choose to be straight?scorch-62
I made the decision to be gay yesterday. :frnds:
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[QUOTE="DroidPhysX"][QUOTE="Ilovegames1992"]

Your inability to answer my question without trying to be clever.

Ilovegames1992

I don't know. Those religious people who blindly think god exists without any proof can match that description.

I've never talked to a smarmy theist, most of them don't really have that attitude.

The irony is killing me.
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I have no idea. Maybe sexual orientation develops as they grow. All I know for certain is that it's not much of a choice.

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[QUOTE="Ilovegames1992"]

[QUOTE="DroidPhysX"] I don't know. Those religious people who blindly think god exists without any proof can match that description.DroidPhysX

I've never talked to a smarmy theist, most of them don't really have that attitude.

The irony is killing me.

Hope springs eternal....

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[QUOTE="DroidPhysX"][QUOTE="Ilovegames1992"]

I've never talked to a smarmy theist, most of them don't really have that attitude.

Ilovegames1992

The irony is killing me.

Hope springs eternal....

Tip my cap to the irrelevant point.
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I like to believe that they have gayness thrust upon them.