Are You For Helping Illegals or Against?

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#1 MexicanNinja8
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I'm mainly speaking of Mexicans considering we have a large amount of them in our country illegally. I don't blame them for sneaking in honestly I mean look at their country its got multiple murders each day through drug wars and so on. Im all for helping some illegals but only the ones that want to come here to actually try to work. Some women come here pregnant then live off welfare. But those who come to work their a** off to support there family have my support. Whats your opinion?

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#2 DroidPhysX
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No. Most freeload from the system. I'm particular aiming this at illegal women who have anchor babies.
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#3 00-Riddick-00
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Very against... If they want to come here. Then they should do it legally.
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#4 tenaka2
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Well the U.S. exploits mexico to the max, i see little problem with returning such values.

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#5 nocoolnamejim
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I guess it depends on what you mean by helping them. I'm in favor of providing a method by which illegal immigrants, if they register and do certain things, can earn the right to remain here legally since it's both the moral and right thing to do and I don't think it's realistic to expect us to be able to round up millions of illegal immigrants and deport them. I'm not in favor of some sort of general amnesty that switches them all over to citizens instantaneously.
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#6 Allicrombie
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I'm all in favor of helping illegals ....back across the border. =P
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#7 weezyfb
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i am for amnesty for the ones already here
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#8 TheNewEraIcon
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Do it legally, I did from Serbia. They shouldn't get some short cut to just enter as they please

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#9 Pirate700
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I'm for helping them the hell back out of this country.

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#10 IronBeaver
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Help em. The Irish trashed the Italians, the Italians and Irish trashed the Asians, they all trashed the blacks (some continute to), and now the latinos are getting the hate. It is all part of a unfortunate cycle in our history. To have these racists sit around and say "rawr rawr our fore fathers would be loosing their minds" need to shut up and look at a history book.

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#11 Riverwolf007
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every case should be examined individually.

i believe if you help people it puts those people in a position to help others.

sure i guess i'm naive but hey, even bruce lee was an anchor baby.

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#12 Travo_basic
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I guess it depends on what you mean by helping them. I'm in favor of providing a method by which illegal immigrants, if they register and do certain things, can earn the right to remain here legally since it's both the moral and right thing to do and I don't think it's realistic to expect us to be able to round up millions of illegal immigrants and deport them. I'm not in favor of some sort of general amnesty that switches them all over to citizens instantaneously.nocoolnamejim
This sums up my views on the subject. I don't believe in amnesty for people who "sneak" into the country.
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#13 tonyjay87
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For. There needs to be a pathway to legal status for undocumented people. It's a shame that the last couple of attempts at immigration reform failed.
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#14 IronBeaver
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I'm for helping them the hell back out of this country.

Pirate700

Enjoy your expensive fruit then.

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#15 WhiteKnight77
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The only help illegal aliens should get is back across the border. Outside of that, they do not deserve or should they get any sort of help.

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#16 arad96
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I'm for helping them, but also doing something to stop them from getting accross the border.

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#17 Silverbond
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Sure. Why not?

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#18 Engrish_Major
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[QUOTE="Pirate700"]

I'm for helping them the hell back out of this country.

IronBeaver

Enjoy your expensive fruit then.

Real Americans don't eat fruit.
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#20 WhiteKnight77
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For. There needs to be a pathway to legal status for undocumented people. It's a shame that the last couple of attempts at immigration reform failed. tonyjay87

It is called return back across the border and apply for a visa that allows for immigration. They should not be given legal status just for being in this country, they need to enter this country the proper way and not by just jumping a fence or crossing a desert.

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#21 Pirate700
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[QUOTE="Pirate700"]

I'm for helping them the hell back out of this country.

IronBeaver

Enjoy your expensive fruit then.

A lot of our fruit doesn't even come from the US anymore anyway.

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#23 IronBeaver
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[QUOTE="IronBeaver"]

[QUOTE="Pirate700"]

I'm for helping them the hell back out of this country.

Pirate700

Enjoy your expensive fruit then.

A lot of our fruit doesn't even come from the US anymore anyway.

Then buy it from here! Oh, wait, that would go against capitalism. You know, the outsourcing and everything.

I love how it is the right always complaining about immigration, when it is in fact the "capitalists" who hire the cheap labor. Can't have it both ways.

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#24 Pirate700
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[QUOTE="Pirate700"]

[QUOTE="IronBeaver"]

Enjoy your expensive fruit then.

IronBeaver

A lot of our fruit doesn't even come from the US anymore anyway.

Then buy it from here! Oh, wait, that would go against capitalism. You know, the outsourcing and everything.

I love how it is the right always complaining about immigration, when it is in fact the "capitalists" who hire the cheap labor. Can't have it both ways.

Why are you bringing politics into this?

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#25 LJS9502_basic
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I'm for sending them home.
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#26 CBR600-RR
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They are a massive problem in the UK, so against.

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#27 deactivated-5b19214ec908b
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It seems unfair to me that I'm entitled to all the benefits of living in my country because I was born here when I have no control over where I'm born. Just by getting on a boat means tha they've put more effort into getting into this country than me.

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#28 IronBeaver
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[QUOTE="IronBeaver"]

[QUOTE="Pirate700"]A lot of our fruit doesn't even come from the US anymore anyway.

Pirate700

Then buy it from here! Oh, wait, that would go against capitalism. You know, the outsourcing and everything.

I love how it is the right always complaining about immigration, when it is in fact the "capitalists" who hire the cheap labor. Can't have it both ways.

Why are you bringing politics into this?

Because immigration is an extremely political issue? Thats like asking why someone is having ice cream for dessert. :?

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#29 Sword-Demon
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sorry if this is a naive question, but what's stopping them from coming legally?

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#30 CBR600-RR
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It seems unfair to me that I'm entitled to all the benefits of living in my country because I was born here when I have no control over where I'm born. Just by getting on a boat means tha they've put more effort into getting into this country than me.

toast_burner

That's just the way it is, it's not unfair.

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#31 Pirate700
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sorry if this is a naive question, but what's stopping them from coming legally?

Sword-Demon

A refusal to take the time to do so.

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#32 bbkkristian
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I have many friends who came here legally and went through the process. I believe all others should do the same and stop freeloading our healthcare and education. :x
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It seems unfair to me that I'm entitled to all the benefits of living in my country because I was born here when I have no control over where I'm born. Just by getting on a boat means tha they've put more effort into getting into this country than me.

toast_burner
Actually it's because you parents pay into the system.....
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#34 weezyfb
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sorry if this is a naive question, but what's stopping them from coming legally?

Sword-Demon
that is not easy to do so
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#35 LJS9502_basic
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[QUOTE="Sword-Demon"]

sorry if this is a naive question, but what's stopping them from coming legally?

weezyfb
that is not easy to do so

Most don't want to do so anyway. They leave their families in Mexico. Work here and send the money home. That is not the actions of someone who wishes to immigrate.
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#36 rawsavon
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I am for w/e helps me the most. ...sometimes that means 'helping' illegal immigrants ...sometimes it does not
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#37 rawsavon
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No. Mostfreeload from the system. I'm particular aiming this at illegal women who have anchor babies. DroidPhysX

*wonders how many illegal immigrants you have spent time around* :?

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[QUOTE="DroidPhysX"]No. Mostfreeload from the system. I'm particular aiming this at illegal women who have anchor babies. rawsavon

*wonders how many illegal immigrants you have spent time around* :?

Even legal citizens freeload benefit systems. :lol:

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#39 weezyfb
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[QUOTE="weezyfb"][QUOTE="Sword-Demon"]

sorry if this is a naive question, but what's stopping them from coming legally?

LJS9502_basic

that is not easy to do so

Most don't want to do so anyway. They leave their families in Mexico. Work here and send the money home. That is not the actions of someone who wishes to immigrate.

well if the illegals here were to get amnesty they could begin paying in to the system, that would be the best solution for the ones already here and to the public

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#40 tenaka2
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I'm for sending them home.LJS9502_basic

Then who would wash your shirts and clean your homes?

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#41 bbkkristian
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[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]I'm for sending them home.tenaka2

Then who would wash your shirts and clean your homes?

Himself, like normal people.
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#42 JML897
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I sympathize with the illegal immigrants who come here with good intentions. I'm talking about the ones who want to come here to have their families live better lives and they don't want to wait for the system to make them legal (which could take a long time).

That said, I'm still against illegal immigration in general. I would like it to be easier/quicker for legitimate immigrants to come into the country.

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[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]I'm for sending them home.tenaka2

Then who would wash your shirts and clean your homes?

:lol: You can't be serious.

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#44 Overlord93
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Helping them how? Do you mean like, giving them a leg up over a fence or something?
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#45 Pirate700
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Helping them how? Do you mean like, giving them a leg up over a fence or something?Overlord93
:lol: This post made my afternoon.

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[QUOTE="DroidPhysX"]No. Mostfreeload from the system. I'm particular aiming this at illegal women who have anchor babies. rawsavon

*wonders how many illegal immigrants you have spent time around* :?

For starters.

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/04/07/eveningnews/main4000401.shtml

  • Take healthcare for example -- an estimated $1.1 billion per year for undocumented men, women and children, according to the Rand Corporation.
  • "We have uncompensated care of over $200 million a year," Riley said.
  • It was 5 a.m. andCBS News national correspondent Byron Pittsis with a woman who is nine months pregnant. She's rushed to a south Texas hospital to undergo a C-section - a $4,700 medical procedure that won't cost her a dime. She qualifies for emergency Medicaid.

Also, how many illegal immigrants have you spent time around? And to answer your question, I work construction so I've met plenty.

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#47 LJS9502_basic
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[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]I'm for sending them home.tenaka2

Then who would wash your shirts and clean your homes?

Those who need jobs? But I do that myself.;)

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#48 tenaka2
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[QUOTE="tenaka2"]

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]I'm for sending them home.Pirate700

Then who would wash your shirts and clean your homes?

:lol: You can't be serious.

Ok, who do you think empoyes illegals for a fraction of the cost? could it be *shock* U.S. businesses?!?!?!?

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#49 Pirate700
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[QUOTE="tenaka2"]

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]I'm for sending them home.LJS9502_basic

Then who would wash your shirts and clean your homes?

Those who need jobs?

I like how he makes those out to be low paying jobs or something. The two lawm guys that do my folks house make $20/hour. Same with the two ladies they have clean the house. I'd kill for that kind of money for a stressless job.

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#50 nocoolnamejim
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For the folks in the thread who are doing the whole "I'll help them leave" bit... Can you elaborate on how you'd do that? Link I mean, given that there are almost 14 million people here illegally. HOW exactly are you going to find and deport them all? Just curious.