Atheism.... why are you doing this?

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#1 antonius05
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Well I truely respect everyones decision in life, but like all of my friends have converted to atheism, I for one am not going to convert, but I am also not that kind of person who beleives every single thing in the bibile and reads the bible 24/7 and beleive in creationism, but I do not see the point of atheism. Can anyone tell me why is this happening? Its like the whole world is being over run with people without a belief of a afterlife.
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Correlation?

Maybe it's because the first time a big percentage the world's population is educated, and people don't have to believe or act in a way dictated by social, religious, and government values.

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Because more people are starting to rely on logic, and proveable information....?
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#4 needled24-7
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Because your friends are believing in what is logical.
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#5 antonius05
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Yeah but still, its like all the faith in the world has been stolen....( im suspecting the hamburgler)
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#6 GettingTired
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Because the age of Reason is upon us! Thomas Paine's estimate was a few hundred years off.

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#7 antonius05
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Yah, but would you really rather beleive in dying and nothing after that then heaven and hell? ( i think i just answered my own question but w/e).
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#8 J-Man725
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Who's to say Atheism isn't a form of faith...
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Well I truely respect everyones decision in life, but like all of my friends have converted to atheism, I for one am not going to convert, but I am also not that kind of person who beleives every single thing in the bibile and reads the bible 24/7 and beleive in creationism, but I do not see the point of atheism. Can anyone tell me why is this happening? Its like the whole world is being over run with people without a belief of a afterlife.antonius05

man why do we have to do this again?.... oh well here goes.... we do this because we want to find things out for ourselves. we want to find out wat happened instead of being told wat happened. its really as simple as that im just tired of being told this what "god" did and everything i want to find out on my own terms

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Because everyone forgot that religion is a spiritual bond, and not some writings in a book, so some people would rather not be affiliated with new religious fanatics then play along with them.

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#11 Bubba-louiy
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Because people are getting dumber by the minute.
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ATHEISM RULEZ!!!ONE11!1!111111!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Well I truely respect everyones decision in life, but like all of my friends have converted to atheism, I for one am not going to convert, but I am also not that kind of person who beleives every single thing in the bibile and reads the bible 24/7 and beleive in creationism, but I do not see the point of atheism. Can anyone tell me why is this happening? Its like the whole world is being over run with people without a belief of a afterlife.antonius05

Everyone's getting into atheism because atheism is the only rational option.

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Who's to say Atheism isn't a form of faith...J-Man725

faith in... facts?

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#15 antonius05
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Yeah I understand that.... thats probably the main reason. Most of my friends parents have been forcing them to beleive and study god and they just finally got sick of it..... that is messed up though, getting your parents to hold your hand ti'll death.
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because people are getting smarter.
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Yah, but would you really rather beleive in dying and nothing after that then heaven and hell? ( i think i just answered my own question but w/e).antonius05
I would rather believe that if I live a good life then I will go to a place where everything is like paradise... but I don't, because it's not very logical, ya know?
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Because not havinga religion = the new cool thing to do. First NES, then Backstreet boys... Now it's Atheism!
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Yah, but would you really rather beleive in dying and nothing after that then heaven and hell? ( i think i just answered my own question but w/e).antonius05
It's not about what I want to believe in, it's what I believe to be true...
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#20 xtn702
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Correlation?

Maybe it's because the first time a big percentage the world's population is educated, and people don't have to believe or act in a way dictated by social, religious, and government values.

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this guy speaks the truth
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Yah, but would you really rather beleive in dying and nothing after that then heaven and hell? ( i think i just answered my own question but w/e).antonius05
Well, atheism and not believing in an afterlife are two entirely different things, but as an empiricist with materialist leanings, I believe that not relying gives more weight to my life, since this is all I believe that I have.
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Because not havinga religion = the new cool thing to do. First NES, then Backstreet boys... Now it's Atheism!Greedo_What

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[QUOTE="J-Man725"]Who's to say Atheism isn't a form of faith...ALTER_duo

faith in... facts?

Faith in one's beliefs...no matter what they be.

Faith doesn't have to pertain soley to religion, in my opinion.

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Because not havinga religion = the new cool thing to do. First NES, then Backstreet boys... Now it's Atheism!Greedo_What

The whole idea of religion is way too romantic. (not in the love definition) But considering they're usually hundreds or thousands of years old, that's not very surprising.

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#25 Bad_Mofo_Gamer
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Because not havinga religion = the new cool thing to do. First NES, then Backstreet boys... Now it's Atheism!Greedo_What

Atheism is the new acting ghetto, son all the kids in the suburbs living in two parent households will be athiest

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Because not havinga religion = the new cool thing to do. First NES, then Backstreet boys... Now it's Atheism!Greedo_What
Sad but true. They think they are being open minded and thinking for themselves but they are really just following the crowd.
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#27 antonius05
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Lol yeah, it almost seems like Atheism is a fad..... I know thats not true... but it does sound like it because of like everyonegetting onto the bandwagon so quick...
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Religon threads....why did you make one?
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[QUOTE="ALTER_duo"]

[QUOTE="J-Man725"]Who's to say Atheism isn't a form of faith...J-Man725

faith in... facts?

Faith in one's beliefs...no matter what they be.

Faith doesn't have to pertain soley to religion, in my opinion.

...wow thats probably the most intelligent thing ive heard all day... no wait week even

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Because your friends are believing in what is logical.needled24-7
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[QUOTE="Greedo_What"]Because not havinga religion = the new cool thing to do. First NES, then Backstreet boys... Now it's Atheism!ALTER_duo

:roll:

See? My point. The other new cool thing is to label all people that have religion as bible-thumping redneck coleslaw and cottage cheese eating Americans. Not true. I don't go to church. My beliefs are my own, not that of a 70 year old who has never seen past the "bible", a book written 300-400 years after jesus lived and died.
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#32 CrimzonTide
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Sad but true. They think they are being open minded and thinking for themselves but they are really just following the crowd.Bubba-louiy
Perhaps the crowd is going in the right direction...just because your are indivdualistic does not make you right...
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Because more people are starting to rely on logic, and proveable information....?CrimzonTide
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#34 0starter0
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Yeah, because I'm risking getting kicked out of my house and financial security to "follow the crowd".

Please, just shut up and stop assuming. That's how people created religion in the first place.

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#35 antonius05
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Ive learned to worship Christianity in my own way, because honestly I beleive the Catholic church sends more people to hell then heaven. You just got to find your way of worshipping.... thats why I think people are going atheist because other people are telling them how to worship.
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#36 xboxgamefx
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Because more people are starting to rely on logic, and proveable information....?CrimzonTide

Agreed. People are beginning to trust more in research and reasons with explanations instead of just BELIEVING in something.

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Yeah but still, its like all the faith in the world has been stolen....( im suspecting the hamburgler)antonius05

ahhh se you,my friend,are confused between the difference inhaving faith,and having religion.

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[QUOTE="Greedo_What"]Because not havinga religion = the new cool thing to do. First NES, then Backstreet boys... Now it's Atheism!Bubba-louiy
Sad but true. They think they are being open minded and thinking for themselves but they are really just following the crowd.

wat exactly is your proof on this? Do you take a poll in your neighborhood or something? A lot of people don't even know what exactly atheism is really, i mean the whole point behind it. You have nothing that can prove this really unless you give me a link or something im gonna say that the following posts that say atheism is the new fad or something is just bull.

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[QUOTE="Bubba-louiy"]Sad but true. They think they are being open minded and thinking for themselves but they are really just following the crowd.CrimzonTide
Perhaps the crowd is going in the right direction...just because your are indivdualistic does not make you right...

Doesnt make me wrong either.
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Im not trying to make flamewars here, I respect your decisions, its just confusing to me why it happend.... not as much as it did happen but that it happend so suddenly and dramatically.... its like everyone I know turned atheist in the past 3 months.... just happend so quick.
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[QUOTE="ALTER_duo"]

[QUOTE="Greedo_What"]Because not havinga religion = the new cool thing to do. First NES, then Backstreet boys... Now it's Atheism!Greedo_What

:roll:

See? My point. The other new cool thing is to label all people that have religion as bible-thumping redneck coleslaw and cottage cheese eating Americans. Not true. I don't go to church. My beliefs are my own, not that of a 70 year old who has never seen past the "bible", a book written 300-400 years after jesus lived and died.

did i ever say anything about that??? i never insulted you and im not trying to convert or anything at all! Wat i what to do is just figure things out, as ive said, and while im doing this i want to consider both sides of the playing field not just mine. Im not here to attack you but rather to defend atheism as a whole because people are always ripping on it.

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Well I truely respect everyones decision in life, but like all of my friends have converted to atheism, I for one am not going to convert, but I am also not that kind of person who beleives every single thing in the bibile and reads the bible 24/7 and beleive in creationism, but I do not see the point of atheism. Can anyone tell me why is this happening? Its like the whole world is being over run with people without a belief of a afterlife.antonius05

Uhhh, so. I like pie

Mind your own business, let others do as they please, within theconfines of municipal &federal law of course.I'm an out of practice methodist so I just consider myself agnostic.

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[QUOTE="CrimzonTide"][QUOTE="Bubba-louiy"]Sad but true. They think they are being open minded and thinking for themselves but they are really just following the crowd.Bubba-louiy
Perhaps the crowd is going in the right direction...just because your are indivdualistic does not make you right...

Doesnt make me wrong either.

God is no more likely to exist than the Flying Spaghetti Monster. I can therefore assume by default that there is no God. Creating a belief or the possibility for a belief is changing my natural default stance of not having a belief, which is arbitrary. It would be illogical to waste your time considering the validity of the infinite number of beliefs you could come up with, and God is just one of those infinite number of beliefs.

Stole that from some dude, but it's basically what I would have posted anyways.

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[QUOTE="Bubba-louiy"][QUOTE="Greedo_What"]Because not havinga religion = the new cool thing to do. First NES, then Backstreet boys... Now it's Atheism!ALTER_duo

Sad but true. They think they are being open minded and thinking for themselves but they are really just following the crowd.

wat exactly is your proof on this? Do you take a poll in your neighborhood or something? A lot of people don't even know what exactly atheism is really, i mean the whole point behind it. You have nothing that can prove this really unless you give me a link or something im gonna say that the following posts that say atheism is the new fad or something is just bull.

I believe most american adults believe in God, its just the young upcoming crowd Im talking about. I cant prove it, its just my general observation on society these days.
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#45 CrimzonTide
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Doesnt make me wrong either.Bubba-louiy
I missed the part in my post where I implied that, it seems. And religion creates more human sheep than anything else humans can create...
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[QUOTE="antonius05"]Well I truely respect everyones decision in life, but like all of my friends have converted to atheism, I for one am not going to convert, but I am also not that kind of person who beleives every single thing in the bibile and reads the bible 24/7 and beleive in creationism, but I do not see the point of atheism. Can anyone tell me why is this happening? Its like the whole world is being over run with people without a belief of a afterlife.MagnumPI

Uhhh, so. I like pie

Mind your own business, let others do as they please, within theconfines of municipal &federal law of course.I'm an out of practice methodist so I just consider myself agnostic.

I understand that, the question here is why did it happen so fast...
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Ive learned to worship Christianity in my own way, because honestly I beleive the Catholic church sends more people to hell then heaven. You just got to find your way of worshipping.... thats why I think people are going atheist because other people are telling them how to worship.antonius05

i think more, and more people are going athiest because they learn to think logically. as soon as someone can provide valid evidence of a higher being i'll start bekieving (not worshipping though), but untill then i will continue to believe that when you die you just stop existing, that we're not created in a higher beings image, and that the earth is older than 6000 years old.

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Im not trying to make flamewars here, I respect your decisions, its just confusing to me why it happend.... not as much as it did happen but that it happend so suddenly and dramatically.... its like everyone I know turned atheist in the past 3 months.... just happend so quick.antonius05

hey i cant explain it maybe something happened in their life that changed them im not sure but have you ever asked them wat did it?

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Yah, but would you really rather beleive in dying and nothing after that then heaven and hell? ( i think i just answered my own question but w/e).antonius05

would you rather live in a world with ignorant bliss?

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Yeah but still, its like all the faith in the world has been stolen....( im suspecting the hamburgler)antonius05

Actually it was Grimace the retard...but i think more of what people have become agnostic rather than entirely atheist