Atheism.... why are you doing this?

[QUOTE="ab1205"]

I think it's quite plausible to say that Silver-Dragon is a radical Christian, one of those that would have no problem having the Crusades all over again.

Dr. Francis Collins, one of the only current Christian scientists that has actually done something good leads the Human Genome project, and his views are quite opposite of Silver's. Heck every current Christian Scientist that is contributing to Science has opposite views of Silver (you can call them deist Christians or theist evolutionists).

All of the ones that have the same views as Silver, however, aren't doing jack **** for Science atm.

ALTER_duo

no its not. why? well obviously you really havent been reading many of his posts before this topic it seems that you are quite new to these discussions. however i would like to still like to know wat exactly he sees in this god. and for some reason whenever im on hes not and vice versa however i have been able to argue on one previous occasion maybe 3 days ago.

I am a radical Christian. I would never start a crusade. Never. I am 100% against anyone who would start one.Anamosa41

What if God told you to start one, then would you do it?

Well actually someone found at that life came from a natural cycle and the universe actually does have an end to it. This dude said that in about 700,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 years that the universe would exspand so greatly that it would tear and everything would die. The truth is there isn't a god i honestly hate to say it.

icabog

u got a link for someting that says this bunch of bull? until you can produce something ill believe otherwise im just gonna say that this post means nothing because it has no thought to it at all any christian could counter this with something like no proof. try to think more intelligently about wat you're gonna post before you do ok? ;)

[QUOTE="slinky6"]Actually. Seeing his brain wouldn't be an expirement, it would still be an observation. But if seeing his brain isn't enough proof, then nothing is.GodLovesDead

Humans have brains. I'm Human. This argument is not only completely idiotic but it's smart-assed too. Hell, the chances of me not having a brain is the same chance as God existing.

[QUOTE="ALTER_duo"][QUOTE="ab1205"]

I think it's quite plausible to say that Silver-Dragon is a radical Christian, one of those that would have no problem having the Crusades all over again.

Dr. Francis Collins, one of the only current Christian scientists that has actually done something good leads the Human Genome project, and his views are quite opposite of Silver's. Heck every current Christian Scientist that is contributing to Science has opposite views of Silver (you can call them deist Christians or theist evolutionists).

All of the ones that have the same views as Silver, however, aren't doing jack **** for Science atm.

Anamosa41

no its not. why? well obviously you really havent been reading many of his posts before this topic it seems that you are quite new to these discussions. however i would like to still like to know wat exactly he sees in this god. and for some reason whenever im on hes not and vice versa however i have been able to argue on one previous occasion maybe 3 days ago.

i know its so weird man :D

Thats new, a radical christian not going on a crusade? Your not very radical then.

antonius05

the crusades being fought by christians is a misconception, technically it was fought by people told by the current pope that fighting the muslims would redeem their sins, essentially they were catholics

and not to mention that their were multiple crusades,each having less and less to do with religion

Thats new, a radical christian not going on a crusade? Your not very radical then.

antonius05

[QUOTE="antonius05"]

Thats new, a radical christian not going on a crusade? Your not very radical then.

seanxixamx99

the crusades being fought by christians is a misconception, technically it was fought by people told by the current pope that fighting the muslims would redeem their sins, essentially they were catholics

and not to mention that their were multiple crusades,each having less and less to do with religion

Catholics are Christians.

[QUOTE="icabog"]

Well actually someone found at that life came from a natural cycle and the universe actually does have an end to it. This dude said that in about 700,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 years that the universe would exspand so greatly that it would tear and everything would die. The truth is there isn't a god i honestly hate to say it.

ALTER_duo

u got a link for someting that says this bunch of bull? until you can produce something ill believe otherwise im just gonna say that this post means nothing because it has no thought to it at all any christian could counter this with something like no proof. try to think more intelligently about wat you're gonna post before you do ok? ;)

God is just a term that is used for people that do not have any explanation to the creation of the universe.

[QUOTE="antonius05"]

Thats new, a radical christian not going on a crusade? Your not very radical then.

Anamosa41

dude battlecry? ..... :lol: :roll:

[QUOTE="Anamosa41"]I am a radical Christian. I would never start a crusade. Never. I am 100% against anyone who would start one.Decessus

What if God told you to start one, then would you do it?

[QUOTE="Anamosa41"][QUOTE="antonius05"]

Thats new, a radical christian not going on a crusade? Your not very radical then.

ALTER_duo

dude battlecry? ..... :lol: :roll:

[QUOTE="Ezgam3r"][QUOTE="The_Ish"]

Thats not a whole brain. ;)

Ezgam3r

http://english.pravda.ru/science/mysteries/25-07-2007/95241-no_brain-0

/mycontributiontothisthread

http://wintersteel.homestead.com/Life_Without_Brain.html

/mycontributiontothisthreadforrealthistime;)

So...they still have brains.

[QUOTE="Decessus"]

[QUOTE="Anamosa41"]I am a radical Christian. I would never start a crusade. Never. I am 100% against anyone who would start one.Anamosa41

What if God told you to start one, then would you do it?

How do you know it will never happen? Do you know the mind of God or know what God is going to plan in the future?

[QUOTE="seanxixamx99"][QUOTE="antonius05"]

Thats new, a radical christian not going on a crusade? Your not very radical then.

Decessus

the crusades being fought by christians is a misconception, technically it was fought by people told by the current pope that fighting the muslims would redeem their sins, essentially they were catholics

and not to mention that their were multiple crusades,each having less and less to do with religion

Catholics are Christians.

another misconception, Catholocism was very messed up during the Middle Ages mainly due to the fact that people werent educated enough to read the Bible, and so they ended up listening to whatever their priest, monk, or pope told them. People usually group the two together because catholocism branched off from Christianity, But if you look at Catholocism back then and even its current state, they are becoming extremely different from each other

[QUOTE="ALTER_duo"][QUOTE="Anamosa41"][QUOTE="antonius05"]

Thats new, a radical christian not going on a crusade? Your not very radical then.

Anamosa41

dude battlecry? ..... :lol: :roll:

it just doesnt sound realistic is all. i dont think you can "win" at all....

[QUOTE="Anamosa41"][QUOTE="Decessus"]

[QUOTE="Anamosa41"]I am a radical Christian. I would never start a crusade. Never. I am 100% against anyone who would start one.Decessus

What if God told you to start one, then would you do it?

How do you know it will never happen? Do you know the mind of God or know what God is going to plan in the future?

2. The Bible says a lot about the mind of God.

3.The Book of Revelation is all a person needs.

[QUOTE="Anamosa41"][QUOTE="ALTER_duo"][QUOTE="Anamosa41"][QUOTE="antonius05"]

Thats new, a radical christian not going on a crusade? Your not very radical then.

ALTER_duo

dude battlecry? ..... :lol: :roll:

it just doesnt sound realistic is all. i dont think you can "win" at all....

another misconception, Catholocism was very messed up during the Middle Ages mainly due to the fact that people werent educated enough to read the Bible, and so they ended up listening to whatever their priest, monk, or pope told them. People usually group the two together because catholocism branched off from Christianity, But if you look at Catholocism back then and even its current state, they are becoming extremely different from each other

seanxixamx99

What is a Christian?

[QUOTE="seanxixamx99"]

another misconception, Catholocism was very messed up during the Middle Ages mainly due to the fact that people werent educated enough to read the Bible, and so they ended up listening to whatever their priest, monk, or pope told them. People usually group the two together because catholocism branched off from Christianity, But if you look at Catholocism back then and even its current state, they are becoming extremely different from each other

Decessus

What is a Christian?

[QUOTE="Decessus"][QUOTE="Anamosa41"][QUOTE="Decessus"]

[QUOTE="Anamosa41"]I am a radical Christian. I would never start a crusade. Never. I am 100% against anyone who would start one.Anamosa41

What if God told you to start one, then would you do it?

How do you know it will never happen? Do you know the mind of God or know what God is going to plan in the future?

2. The Bible says a lot about the mind of God.

3.The Book of Revelation is all a person needs.

Where in the Bible does it say God will never ask Anamosa41 to start a crusade?

[QUOTE="Ezgam3r"][QUOTE="Ezgam3r"][QUOTE="The_Ish"]

Thats not a whole brain. ;)

The_Ish

http://english.pravda.ru/science/mysteries/25-07-2007/95241-no_brain-0

/mycontributiontothisthread

http://wintersteel.homestead.com/Life_Without_Brain.html

/mycontributiontothisthreadforrealthistime;)

So...they still have brains.

Say what? :|

[QUOTE="Decessus"][QUOTE="seanxixamx99"]

another misconception, Catholocism was very messed up during the Middle Ages mainly due to the fact that people werent educated enough to read the Bible, and so they ended up listening to whatever their priest, monk, or pope told them. People usually group the two together because catholocism branched off from Christianity, But if you look at Catholocism back then and even its current state, they are becoming extremely different from each other

Anamosa41

What is a Christian?

Then Catholics would be Christians under that definition.

"There are documents describing instances when a human body could wonderfully do without brain. A baby was born in the New York hospital of Saint Vincent in 1935; he did all things that babies usually do: slept, ate and even cried. When the baby died, doctors were surprised with the results of autopsy: there was no brain inside the cranium. The incredible instance was registered as a scientific mystery."

"Famous German neurosurgeon Professor Haufland described a case of a patient stricken by paralysis; the man was of sound mind until his death. At that time doctors had no equipment to look inside the patient's head to discover the fact, but even if they had such an opportunity, they would have seen nothing inside the cranium. When the cranium was dissected after his death, Professor Haufland discovered spinal liquid instead of brain there."

"In 1940, a 14-year-old boy was delivered to a Bolivian hospital of Nikolay Ortiz, his diagnose was brain-growth. The patient complained of severe headache that became especially painful in the evening. Soon the boy died, and doctors even had no time to perform an operation on him. What doctors discovered after the dissection wasn't certainly human brain. A giant abscess filled almost the whole of the cranium, which made doctors hesitate whether the medical science was precise at all."

Say what? :|

Ezgam3r

:o

I should skim less. >_>

Well I don't think he will exactly be say Anamosa41... lol :laugh:.antonius05

[QUOTE="mig_killer2"][QUOTE="agilefalcon16"]

[QUOTE="slinky6"]Figures that when silver leaves, the topic dies.Anamosa41

Oh, he left? Well, that sucks. :( I was going to ask him a question regarding the origin of "faith". But, oh well.

that's why im starting to doubt christianity.

alright im gonna say this.... now i looked at the "battlecry", and really i was disgusted. A generation is at risk!!! wat the hell kind of statement is that!!! at risk from wat figuring things out for ourselves!!!??? total bull man. this website's "mission" is nearly pointless. they're never gonna "win" its impossible you're going to have to search out and find all of the atheists and convert them or something. i guess i could see you people holding some sort of public speaking non sense but you shouldnt be trying to convert those you have made a choice to find things out for themselves instead of using this "god" as an excuse as to how all this happened, you life and everything. battlecry's "mission" is going to be pointless and even if you do get everyone to join your cause, which i doubt, you'll never get me, why? i looked at the sides and i found the one that's involved in more choice and thought then christianity. wow..... that was a lot, anyway now do you understand what im talking about??? because if you dont then clearly you're jaded in all of your thoughts, pretty much not acting on your own will, following the will of "god". ALTER_duo

1. Jesus gave His life for me, so why can't I do the same?

2. I know if I reject Him I will be going to hell. So why not just die a short death and live in heaven for eternity instead of living this life any way I want and paying the price for it in hell?

BTW A lot of people are against Battlecry for the same reason you are.

[QUOTE="Decessus"][QUOTE="seanxixamx99"][QUOTE="antonius05"]

Thats new, a radical christian not going on a crusade? Your not very radical then.

seanxixamx99

the crusades being fought by christians is a misconception, technically it was fought by people told by the current pope that fighting the muslims would redeem their sins, essentially they were catholics

and not to mention that their were multiple crusades,each having less and less to do with religion

Catholics are Christians.

another misconception, Catholocism was very messed up during the Middle Ages mainly due to the fact that people werent educated enough to read the Bible, and so they ended up listening to whatever their priest, monk, or pope told them. People usually group the two together because catholocism branched off from Christianity, But if you look at Catholocism back then and even its current state, they are becoming extremely different from each other

In Ephesians I think, Paul tells that there will be people who tell them to remain unmarried. sound familier?

catholicism isn't christianity. there are many practices which conflict with the bible.

In Ephesians I think, Paul tells that there will be people who tell them to remain unmarried. sound familier?

mig_killer2

I can almost guarantee that if you were to ask most religious scholars if Catholics were Christians they would say yes.

[QUOTE="ALTER_duo"]alright im gonna say this.... now i looked at the "battlecry", and really i was disgusted. A generation is at risk!!! wat the hell kind of statement is that!!! at risk from wat figuring things out for ourselves!!!??? total bull man. this website's "mission" is nearly pointless. they're never gonna "win" its impossible you're going to have to search out and find all of the atheists and convert them or something. i guess i could see you people holding some sort of public speaking non sense but you shouldnt be trying to convert those you have made a choice to find things out for themselves instead of using this "god" as an excuse as to how all this happened, you life and everything. battlecry's "mission" is going to be pointless and even if you do get everyone to join your cause, which i doubt, you'll never get me, why? i looked at the sides and i found the one that's involved in more choice and thought then christianity. wow..... that was a lot, anyway now do you understand what im talking about??? because if you dont then clearly you're jaded in all of your thoughts, pretty much not acting on your own will, following the will of "god". Anamosa41

1. Jesus gave His life for me, so why can't I do the same?

2. I know if I reject Him I will be going to hell. So why not just die a short death and live in heaven for eternity instead of living this life any way I want and paying the price for it in hell?

BTW A lot of people are against Battlecry for the same reason you are.

1. if thats wat you want...

2. yea yea all i har about is this hell thing now a days. think of it this way alright, you wont know anything until you die really i mean you can't be sure. i personally am trying to figure things out before something like that happens, in other words finding a way around something like that.

3. yea i had feeling about that

[QUOTE="mig_killer2"]

catholicism isn't christianity. there are many practices which conflict with the bible.

In Ephesians I think, Paul tells that there will be people who tell them to remain unmarried. sound familier?

Decessus

I can almost guarantee that if you were to ask most religious scholars if Catholics were Christians they would say yes.

[QUOTE="Decessus"][QUOTE="mig_killer2"]

catholicism isn't christianity. there are many practices which conflict with the bible.

In Ephesians I think, Paul tells that there will be people who tell them to remain unmarried. sound familier?

mig_killer2

I can almost guarantee that if you were to ask most religious scholars if Catholics were Christians they would say yes.

[QUOTE="Decessus"][QUOTE="mig_killer2"]

catholicism isn't christianity. there are many practices which conflict with the bible.

In Ephesians I think, Paul tells that there will be people who tell them to remain unmarried. sound familier?

mig_killer2

I can almost guarantee that if you were to ask most religious scholars if Catholics were Christians they would say yes.

What about it?

[QUOTE="mig_killer2"][QUOTE="Decessus"][QUOTE="mig_killer2"]

catholicism isn't christianity. there are many practices which conflict with the bible.

In Ephesians I think, Paul tells that there will be people who tell them to remain unmarried. sound familier?

Decessus

I can almost guarantee that if you were to ask most religious scholars if Catholics were Christians they would say yes.

What about it?

Catholic is kind of its own thing but its still a type of Christian religion.antonius05

a lot of it is not in the biblemig_killer2

I'm not a theologian, but I don't think the Bible is the only source material for the Christian religion. It could also be that the traditions you speak of are simply the Catholic Churches own interpretation of the Bible. I think it's fairly obvious that the Bible can be interpreted in about one thousand different ways.

[QUOTE="Anamosa41"]

[QUOTE="ALTER_duo"]alright im gonna say this.... now i looked at the "battlecry", and really i was disgusted. A generation is at risk!!! wat the hell kind of statement is that!!! at risk from wat figuring things out for ourselves!!!??? total bull man. this website's "mission" is nearly pointless. they're never gonna "win" its impossible you're going to have to search out and find all of the atheists and convert them or something. i guess i could see you people holding some sort of public speaking non sense but you shouldnt be trying to convert those you have made a choice to find things out for themselves instead of using this "god" as an excuse as to how all this happened, you life and everything. battlecry's "mission" is going to be pointless and even if you do get everyone to join your cause, which i doubt, you'll never get me, why? i looked at the sides and i found the one that's involved in more choice and thought then christianity. wow..... that was a lot, anyway now do you understand what im talking about??? because if you dont then clearly you're jaded in all of your thoughts, pretty much not acting on your own will, following the will of "god". ALTER_duo

1. Jesus gave His life for me, so why can't I do the same?

2. I know if I reject Him I will be going to hell. So why not just die a short death and live in heaven for eternity instead of living this life any way I want and paying the price for it in hell?

BTW A lot of people are against Battlecry for the same reason you are.

1. if thats wat you want...

2. yea yea all i har about is this hell thing now a days. think of it this way alright, you wont know anything until you die really i mean you can't be sure. i personally am trying to figure things out before something like that happens, in other words finding a way around something like that.

3. yea i had feeling about that

[QUOTE="ALTER_duo"][QUOTE="Anamosa41"]

[QUOTE="ALTER_duo"]alright im gonna say this.... now i looked at the "battlecry", and really i was disgusted. A generation is at risk!!! wat the hell kind of statement is that!!! at risk from wat figuring things out for ourselves!!!??? total bull man. this website's "mission" is nearly pointless. they're never gonna "win" its impossible you're going to have to search out and find all of the atheists and convert them or something. i guess i could see you people holding some sort of public speaking non sense but you shouldnt be trying to convert those you have made a choice to find things out for themselves instead of using this "god" as an excuse as to how all this happened, you life and everything. battlecry's "mission" is going to be pointless and even if you do get everyone to join your cause, which i doubt, you'll never get me, why? i looked at the sides and i found the one that's involved in more choice and thought then christianity. wow..... that was a lot, anyway now do you understand what im talking about??? because if you dont then clearly you're jaded in all of your thoughts, pretty much not acting on your own will, following the will of "god". Anamosa41

1. Jesus gave His life for me, so why can't I do the same?

2. I know if I reject Him I will be going to hell. So why not just die a short death and live in heaven for eternity instead of living this life any way I want and paying the price for it in hell?

BTW A lot of people are against Battlecry for the same reason you are.

1. if thats wat you want...

2. yea yea all i har about is this hell thing now a days. think of it this way alright, you wont know anything until you die really i mean you can't be sure. i personally am trying to figure things out before something like that happens, in other words finding a way around something like that.

3. yea i had feeling about that

ticks me off? wat do you mean the battlecry or christianity as a whole?

Catholic is kind of its own thing but its still a type of Christian religion.antonius05

Sure they are. There are really only three main branches of Christianity:

Catholicism

Protestantism

Eastern Orthodoxy

[QUOTE="mig_killer2"] a lot of it is not in the bibleDecessus

I'm not a theologian, but I don't think the Bible is the only source material for the Christian religion. It could also be that the traditions you speak of are simply the Catholic Churches own interpretation of the Bible. I think it's fairly obvious that the Bible can be interpreted in about one thousand different ways.

[QUOTE="Anamosa41"][QUOTE="ALTER_duo"][QUOTE="Anamosa41"]

[QUOTE="ALTER_duo"]alright im gonna say this.... now i looked at the "battlecry", and really i was disgusted. A generation is at risk!!! wat the hell kind of statement is that!!! at risk from wat figuring things out for ourselves!!!??? total bull man. this website's "mission" is nearly pointless. they're never gonna "win" its impossible you're going to have to search out and find all of the atheists and convert them or something. i guess i could see you people holding some sort of public speaking non sense but you shouldnt be trying to convert those you have made a choice to find things out for themselves instead of using this "god" as an excuse as to how all this happened, you life and everything. battlecry's "mission" is going to be pointless and even if you do get everyone to join your cause, which i doubt, you'll never get me, why? i looked at the sides and i found the one that's involved in more choice and thought then christianity. wow..... that was a lot, anyway now do you understand what im talking about??? because if you dont then clearly you're jaded in all of your thoughts, pretty much not acting on your own will, following the will of "god". ALTER_duo

1. Jesus gave His life for me, so why can't I do the same?

2. I know if I reject Him I will be going to hell. So why not just die a short death and live in heaven for eternity instead of living this life any way I want and paying the price for it in hell?

BTW A lot of people are against Battlecry for the same reason you are.

1. if thats wat you want...

2. yea yea all i har about is this hell thing now a days. think of it this way alright, you wont know anything until you die really i mean you can't be sure. i personally am trying to figure things out before something like that happens, in other words finding a way around something like that.

3. yea i had feeling about that

ticks me off? wat do you mean the battlecry or christianity as a whole?

Alrighty, but if we just make the assumption that he has a brain because odds are for it, we are spitting in the face of the scientific method. We are not testing our hypothesis, which is his brain. There is no reason to believe he has one, and by his logic, he must not have one.

Silver_Dragon17

I'm not entering this debate (I'm kind of tired today...) but I do not think you are correct there. It really depends on those odds. For example a stone statue can wave at you. Theoretically, all the atoms in its hand might move in the same direction over and over again so that the hand will move. However practically, this is an impossibility; and everything (construction for example) is based on that. So yes we make an assumption like that, and it is not really "spitting in the face"