Atheists who live a good life donot deserve paradise just cuz of that!

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#351 Thinker_reborn
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[QUOTE="Thinker_reborn"][QUOTE="bsman00"] Allowed material possesions? Religon keeps you from living your life, you know like being in prison, but some enjoy there cellbsman00
Islam doesnt prohibit me from using my computer and playing games.:|

 

Well you said "allowed material possesions" so i assumed that there some stuff they dont want you to have or use.... and no one should tell you what you can and cant do NO ONE....

That's what you believe.I dont.
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[QUOTE="bsman00"][QUOTE="Thinker_reborn"]Islam doesnt prohibit me from using my computer and playing games.:|Thinker_reborn

 

Well you said "allowed material possesions" so i assumed that there some stuff they dont want you to have or use.... and no one should tell you what you can and cant do NO ONE....

That's what you believe.I dont.

So what?
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#353 Thinker_reborn
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[QUOTE="Thinker_reborn"][QUOTE="bsman00"]

 

Well you said "allowed material possesions" so i assumed that there some stuff they dont want you to have or use.... and no one should tell you what you can and cant do NO ONE....

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That's what you believe.I dont.

So what?

So what?
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#354 ElZilcho90
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I've never heard this argument. And I doubt that an atheist cares what happens after they die...FragStains
I've heard this argument alot, that somehow it invalidates the idea of a compassionate and benevolent God when Athiests who live a "good life" aren't allowed into Heaven upon death.
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#355 Funky_Llama
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[QUOTE="Funky_Llama"][QUOTE="Thinker_reborn"]That's what you believe.I dont.Thinker_reborn
So what?

So what?

My post wasn't a statement, thus 'so what' isn't applicable to it...
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#356 Thinker_reborn
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[QUOTE="Thinker_reborn"][QUOTE="Funky_Llama"]So what?Funky_Llama
So what?

My post wasn't a statement, thus 'so what' isn't applicable to it...

My post to which you quoted so what had nothing in it to be asked that thing.
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#357 Funky_Llama
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[QUOTE="Funky_Llama"][QUOTE="Thinker_reborn"]So what?Thinker_reborn
My post wasn't a statement, thus 'so what' isn't applicable to it...

My post to which you quoted so what had nothing in it to be asked that thing.

Yes it did. There was a clear implication that you thought the fact that you disagreed with him was of any consequence to the debate. Otherwise you wouldn't have posted it.
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#358 Thinker_reborn
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[QUOTE="Thinker_reborn"][QUOTE="Funky_Llama"]My post wasn't a statement, thus 'so what' isn't applicable to it...Funky_Llama
My post to which you quoted so what had nothing in it to be asked that thing.

Yes it did. There was a clear implication that you thought the fact that you disagreed with him was of any consequence to the debate. Otherwise you wouldn't have posted it.

He quoted me and I quoted him back.
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#359 LJS9502_basic
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Only God knows what is in another's heart and is the judge of who will be in paradise. We have only a rudiminetary understanding....
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#360 rik666
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[QUOTE="Thinker_reborn"]

Somebody who doesnt even have the heart to rape,rob or murder cannot be considered good for not doing such activities cuz he never had a choice.If someone geniounly finds peace and happiness in helping a poor and needy person then again they are not necessarily good for doing that cuz they did it for their own selfish reason.

Anyways while good athesists dont deserve the deepest fires of hell,they certainly dont deserve paradise either!!

Uhm, It doesn't work like that, you DO know people have morals and ethics, atheist or not, they don't just CHOOSE not to murder or rape people, it's not like it's mandatory to do so unless you choose not to, opt out, atheists can lead good MORAL lives like anyone else. What's this about being selfish helping a poor and needy person making you happy? Were you on crack at the time?
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[QUOTE="Thinker_reborn"]

Somebody who doesnt even have the heart to rape,rob or murder cannot be considered good for not doing such activities cuz he never had a choice.If someone geniounly finds peace and happiness in helping a poor and needy person then again they are not necessarily good for doing that cuz they did it for their own selfish reason.

Anyways while good athesists dont deserve the deepest fires of hell,they certainly dont deserve paradise either!! rik666

Uhm, It doesn't work like that, you DO know people have morals and ethics, atheist or not, they don't just CHOOSE not to murder or rape people, it's not like it's mandatory to do so unless you choose not to, opt out, atheists can lead good MORAL lives like anyone else. What's this about being selfish helping a poor and needy person making you happy? Were you on crack at the time?

well as far as im concerned thinker is just some moron, there is always the choice, everyone has thought of killing someone, and the reason they dont do it is because they dont want to, and dont sit there and tell me you have never thought of it either, of killing someone, ever said this line even as a joke: im gonna kill you! and if you play a video game where youve done so, you thought about it then, people always think of inflicting pain upon others as well. otherwise there would be no war, no violence in the world

as far as my thoughts on those, ive thought about it, would i do it? no, because i know it is wrong and i dont like inflicting pain upon others, plus i have not the sack to do so, if i did, id have tried to kill the kkk or neo nazis by now, i would envision myself as someone like the punisher i guess

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What's this about being selfish helping a poor and needy person making you happy? Were you on crack at the time?rik666
Nop it's a perfectly viable argument which nobody can seen to dismiss.
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#363 Thinker_reborn
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[QUOTE="rik666"][QUOTE="Thinker_reborn"]

Somebody who doesnt even have the heart to rape,rob or murder cannot be considered good for not doing such activities cuz he never had a choice.If someone geniounly finds peace and happiness in helping a poor and needy person then again they are not necessarily good for doing that cuz they did it for their own selfish reason.

Anyways while good athesists dont deserve the deepest fires of hell,they certainly dont deserve paradise either!! mattttherman3

Uhm, It doesn't work like that, you DO know people have morals and ethics, atheist or not, they don't just CHOOSE not to murder or rape people, it's not like it's mandatory to do so unless you choose not to, opt out, atheists can lead good MORAL lives like anyone else. What's this about being selfish helping a poor and needy person making you happy? Were you on crack at the time?

well as far as im concerned thinker is just some moron, there is always the choice, everyone has thought of killing someone, and the reason they dont do it is because they dont want to, and dont sit there and tell me you have never thought of it either, of killing someone, ever said this line even as a joke: im gonna kill you! and if you play a video game where youve done so, you thought about it then, people always think of inflicting pain upon others as well. otherwise there would be no war, no violence in the world

as far as my thoughts on those, ive thought about it, would i do it? no, because i know it is wrong and i dont like inflicting pain upon others, plus i have not the sack to do so, if i did, id have tried to kill the kkk or neo nazis by now, i would envision myself as someone like the punisher i guess

You dont have the guts to kill someone.You dont have the heart to inflict pain on others.It is nothing that you have achieved but you were born and brought up that way.

And yes we all have our dirty minds but honetsly i have never evern thought about killing a real life person.

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[QUOTE="mattttherman3"][QUOTE="rik666"] Uhm, It doesn't work like that, you DO know people have morals and ethics, atheist or not, they don't just CHOOSE not to murder or rape people, it's not like it's mandatory to do so unless you choose not to, opt out, atheists can lead good MORAL lives like anyone else. What's this about being selfish helping a poor and needy person making you happy? Were you on crack at the time?Thinker_reborn

well as far as im concerned thinker is just some moron, there is always the choice, everyone has thought of killing someone, and the reason they dont do it is because they dont want to, and dont sit there and tell me you have never thought of it either, of killing someone, ever said this line even as a joke: im gonna kill you! and if you play a video game where youve done so, you thought about it then, people always think of inflicting pain upon others as well. otherwise there would be no war, no violence in the world

as far as my thoughts on those, ive thought about it, would i do it? no, because i know it is wrong and i dont like inflicting pain upon others, plus i have not the sack to do so, if i did, id have tried to kill the kkk or neo nazis by now, i would envision myself as someone like the punisher i guess

You dont have the guts to kill someone.You dont have the heart to inflict pain on others.It is nothing that you have achieved but you were born and brought up that way.

And yes we all have our dirty minds but honetsly i have never evern thought about killing a real life person.

LIAR!

, i wish your religion didnt exist, the people are fine, in fact one of my best friends is from iraq, actually there are only minor differences between your religion and my born religion(catholosism) at least jesus and moses didnt have relations with children, and at least were allowed to draw jesus and moses in cartoons and stuff, but mohamed is taboo, bull, get rid of the violence, and oppression of women in your religion and then maybe ill join it! now im off to work so i wont see your no doubtedly rediculous reply