Atheists, why not pick a Religion?

[QUOTE="nimatoad2000"][QUOTE="cee1gee"] not a joke thread and i am 22 years oldcee1gee

But how did I know which one is the right religion? :(

By your logic everyone is gambling.

And as Homer Simpson said, "But Marge, what if we chose the wrong religion? Each week we just make God madder and madder."

Trinners

[QUOTE="cee1gee"][QUOTE="nimatoad2000"] well then thats just sad.nimatoad2000

But how did I know which one is the right religion? :(

By your logic everyone is gambling.

And as Homer Simpson said, "But Marge, what if we chose the wrong religion? Each week we just make God madder and madder."

there is ways around that, by simply just believing that a God made us but we dont know what he looks like and we dont know what he does because we can not see him..he would understandcee1gee

Can you force yourself to believe something you don't believe? Why not believe stuff based on deduction?

there is ways around that, by simply just believing that a God made us but we dont know what he looks like and we dont know what he does because we can not see him..he would understandcee1gee

How do you know he would understand? How do you know god has a gender anyway? You see these are the problems concerning religion and god. People are trying to define a concept that cannot be proven true. Everyone has their own version of "god".

[QUOTE="cee1gee"]

there is ways around that, by simply just believing that a God made us but we dont know what he looks like and we dont know what he does because we can not see him..he would understand

Can you force yourself to believe something you don't believe? Why not believe stuff based on deduction?

[QUOTE="cee1gee"]

there is ways around that, by simply just believing that a God made us but we dont know what he looks like and we dont know what he does because we can not see him..he would understandRationalAtheist

Can you force yourself to believe something you don't believe? Why not believe stuff based on deduction?

[QUOTE="cee1gee"]

there is ways around that, by simply just believing that a God made us but we dont know what he looks like and we dont know what he does because we can not see him..he would understand

Can you force yourself to believe something you don't believe? Why not believe stuff based on deduction?

yes you can, i believe in taxes because they are there, but i dont believe they should have themcee1gee

[QUOTE="RationalAtheist"]

[QUOTE="cee1gee"]

there is ways around that, by simply just believing that a God made us but we dont know what he looks like and we dont know what he does because we can not see him..he would understandcee1gee

Can you force yourself to believe something you don't believe? Why not believe stuff based on deduction?

You don't believe in facts, you accept them.

[QUOTE="cee1gee"][QUOTE="RationalAtheist"]

Can you force yourself to believe something you don't believe? Why not believe stuff based on deduction?

nimatoad2000

[QUOTE="cee1gee"][QUOTE="RationalAtheist"]

Can you force yourself to believe something you don't believe? Why not believe stuff based on deduction?

Trinners

You don't believe in facts, you accept them.

[QUOTE="Bluestorm-Kalas"][QUOTE="cee1gee"]

Just incase your wrong and something DOES exist out there, they wouldnt be happy you dont believe in them lol

Maybe create your own religion that believes in every religion just incase ya know?

cee1gee

i'm done with this thread, even if OT is not a troll, his edjucation and IQ level make it so that an intellegent arguement is all but impossible. i dont even think gabu could help this poor mind, this has just turned into the same thing as that thread where that one guy said that their was no proof or facts in science and the entirety of OT spent 15 pages trying to explain facts to him, but to no avail. its like talking to a wall, except a wall would have understood by now.

yes they do exist but i dont believe we should have them..isnt it the same exact thing as i just posted

cee1gee

You are asking atheists to accept something they don't believe in (God) This is different from taxes because taxes exist, while god as far as we know does not exist.

Why be in a religion if you have no faith in it? Why believe in something that isn't what you believe?

But how did I know which one is the right religion? :(

By your logic everyone is gambling.

And as Homer Simpson said, "But Marge, what if we chose the wrong religion? Each week we just make God madder and madder."

Trinners

i'm done with this thread, even if OT is not a troll, his edjucation and IQ level make it so that an intellegent arguement is all but impossible. i dont even think gabu could help this poor mind, this has just turned into the same thing as that thread where that one guy said that their was no proof or facts in science and the entirety of OT spent 15 pages trying to explain facts to him, but to no avail. its like talking to a wall, except a wall would have understood by now.

nimatoad2000

good job lol

Why be in a religion if you have no faith in it? Why believe in something that isn't what you believe?

dog64

i'm done with this thread, even if OT is not a troll, his edjucation and IQ level make it so that an intellegent arguement is all but impossible. i dont even think gabu could help this poor mind, this has just turned into the same thing as that thread where that one guy said that their was no proof or facts in science and the entirety of OT spent 15 pages trying to explain facts to him, but to no avail. its like talking to a wall, except a wall would have understood by now.

nimatoad2000

I'm not sure if that's ironic...

[QUOTE="Trinners"]

But how did I know which one is the right religion? :(

By your logic everyone is gambling.

And as Homer Simpson said, "But Marge, what if we chose the wrong religion? Each week we just make God madder and madder."

adv_tr00per

What if god prefers atheists? ;)

[QUOTE="nimatoad2000"]

i'm done with this thread, even if OT is not a troll, his edjucation and IQ level make it so that an intellegent arguement is all but impossible. i dont even think gabu could help this poor mind, this has just turned into the same thing as that thread where that one guy said that their was no proof or facts in science and the entirety of OT spent 15 pages trying to explain facts to him, but to no avail. its like talking to a wall, except a wall would have understood by now.

AirGuitarist87

I'm not sure if that's ironic...

[QUOTE="nimatoad2000"]

i'm done with this thread, even if OT is not a troll, his edjucation and IQ level make it so that an intellegent arguement is all but impossible. i dont even think gabu could help this poor mind, this has just turned into the same thing as that thread where that one guy said that their was no proof or facts in science and the entirety of OT spent 15 pages trying to explain facts to him, but to no avail. its like talking to a wall, except a wall would have understood by now.

good job lol

[QUOTE="adv_tr00per"][QUOTE="Trinners"]

But how did I know which one is the right religion? :(

By your logic everyone is gambling.

And as Homer Simpson said, "But Marge, what if we chose the wrong religion? Each week we just make God madder and madder."

Trinners

What if god prefers atheists? ;)

[QUOTE="dog64"]

Why be in a religion if you have no faith in it? Why believe in something that isn't what you believe?

nimatoad2000

Unfortunately I think some people are in a religion because they're afraid of death, or punishment that is said to be for the non-believers like hell. As duxup was implying, that isn't the proper reason to be in a religion. If a true Atheist was in a religion, it would be contradictory.

I have a much better idea, try letting people believe what they want, just as they let you believe what you want. Hopefully one day you will see you lack the capacitance to manipulate others to conforming to your beliefs.

That said, I refuse to just pick a religion just because.

"I contend we are both atheists, I just believe in one fewer god than you do. When you understand why you dismiss all other possible gods, you will understand why I dismiss yours" -Stephen Roberts

Unfortunately I think some people are in a religion because they're afraid of death, or punishment that is said to be for the non-believers like hell. As duxup was implying, that isn't the proper reason to be in a religion. If a true Atheist was in a religion, it would be contradictory.

[QUOTE="Trinners"]

But how did I know which one is the right religion? :(

By your logic everyone is gambling.

And as Homer Simpson said, "But Marge, what if we chose the wrong religion? Each week we just make God madder and madder."

adv_tr00per

Your indoctrinated into religion, not born with it. So technically everybody is born atheist.

[QUOTE="nimatoad2000"][QUOTE="dog64"]

Why be in a religion if you have no faith in it? Why believe in something that isn't what you believe?

Unfortunately I think some people are in a religion because they're afraid of death, or punishment that is said to be for the non-believers like hell. As duxup was implying, that isn't the proper reason to be in a religion. If a true Atheist was in a religion, it would be contradictory.

[QUOTE="nimatoad2000"]

i'm done with this thread, even if OT is not a troll, his edjucation and IQ level make it so that an intellegent arguement is all but impossible. i dont even think gabu could help this poor mind, this has just turned into the same thing as that thread where that one guy said that their was no proof or facts in science and the entirety of OT spent 15 pages trying to explain facts to him, but to no avail. its like talking to a wall, except a wall would have understood by now.

good job lol

This topic is a serious matter, I would not joke about this.

I believe in God, in Jesus Christ as Lord. This topic is so massive there is no way to logically explain religion, and there is no way of pursuading everyone to believe a certain religion. For example if Jesus came to earth in one way or another and everyone saw him there would still be some that would refuse to believe.

In my opinion it is sad, in todays world religion and God are being pushed out of peoples lives, people are just refusing to believe in any of this "jargon". In the past like a thousand years ago up until now religion was a part of everything and how poeple lived their lives, but now as I have stated religion is being pushed away.

So topics like these are interesting, you get to see what peoples take on religion are but it hurts more than helps, because people will argue and refuse to believe.

[QUOTE="nimatoad2000"][QUOTE="cee1gee"]

good job lol

D_Battery

This topic is a serious matter, I would not joke about this.

I believe in God, in Jesus Christ as Lord. This topic is so massive there is no way to logically explain religion, and there is no way of pursuading everyone to believe a certain religion. For example if Jesus came to earth in one way or another and everyone saw him there would still be some that would refuse to believe.

In my opinion it is sad, in todays world religion and God are being pushed out of peoples lives, people are just refusing to believe in any of this "jargon". In the past like a thousand years ago up until now religion was a part of everything and how poeple lived their lives, but now as I have stated religion is being pushed away.

So topics like these are interesting, you get to see what peoples take on religion are but it hurts more than helps, because people will argue and refuse to believe.

GameGuy642003

People don't believe because there is no evidence. There is nothing to believe in because it cannot be defined in the first place.

Exactly my beliefs. Religion is all about fear of the unknown. All the genesis stories were there in the first place to explain what the science at the time could not. Also people want to know that there is a reason to their life. Some people just cannot accept the concept that we might just be here, with no role or meaning. Also one of my friends likes to argue that without religion, many people would not be moral. Pretty much that for a lot of lesser intellect people, religion is the only think keeping them from killing / stealing only because of the concept of punishment in the afterlife.nimatoad2000

Yeah, going to church doesn't automatically make you moral. There are many people who go to church, and may even be involved in their church, and they still talk about sex, violence, and all that immoral stuff. Not the churches fault though, as churches do teach morals and many have youth organizations where they try to teach kids good works. But it seems that most youths just go through the moves and they don't take it to heart.

Yeah, but he's not an intentional troll so it's kind of a gray area. I agree, almost every thread he's created has made me want to facepalm at some point, this one being no exception, but it's not quite as bad as some of them. I'm actually taking this quasi-seriously. Anyhoo, I guess I ought to weigh in; here's my argument for my lack of religiosity:

1. I am aware that I am alive now.

2. It is impossible to know for certain what lies beyond this life.

3. I do not want to waste what little time I have in this life.

4. Religion pertains to what lies beyond this life and takes up my time.

Therefore:

5. I ought not to practice religion.

Simple enough, eh?

[QUOTE="nimatoad2000"][QUOTE="cee1gee"] not a joke thread and i am 22 years oldcee1gee

[QUOTE="duxup"]I don't think picking a religion "just in case" is in quite the spirit folks expect...Acemaster27

[QUOTE="cee1gee"][QUOTE="nimatoad2000"] well then thats just sad.Rougehunter

Come up with something better than Pascal's Wager. Kthnxbai.MattUD1

[QUOTE="GameGuy642003"]

This topic is a serious matter, I would not joke about this.

I believe in God, in Jesus Christ as Lord. This topic is so massive there is no way to logically explain religion, and there is no way of pursuading everyone to believe a certain religion. For example if Jesus came to earth in one way or another and everyone saw him there would still be some that would refuse to believe.

In my opinion it is sad, in todays world religion and God are being pushed out of peoples lives, people are just refusing to believe in any of this "jargon". In the past like a thousand years ago up until now religion was a part of everything and how poeple lived their lives, but now as I have stated religion is being pushed away.

So topics like these are interesting, you get to see what peoples take on religion are but it hurts more than helps, because people will argue and refuse to believe.

Trinners

People don't believe because there is no evidence. There is nothing to believe in because it cannot be defined in the first place.

Yes that is a true fact. many people like tangible things they can touch and see so that is one reason why people have a hard time believing in something they can not see or touch. But people should go beyond what they see and feel, they should go beyond the logic and evidence of explaining things. Don't get me wrong thinking things out logically is excellent I do it all the time.

That is why they call people in religions Living, by "faith", they choose to believe in things that has no scientific evidence and cannot not be defined by human standards. As I said they "choose", no one is forcing them to believe in anything. the same goes with Atheists no one is forcing them to believe in anything, I certaintly am not forcing anyone.

So I say that even though believing in things that you can see and touch and prove logically with evidance and facts are good, people should go beyond that to think in ways that can't be proven. Why you may ask why should I do that when I can easily believe in something that I can prove with tangible evidence and facts, well I can not give you a reason why you should, thats the thing. We are only human and we cannot comprehend what it means to have faith in something that is totally unlike us. That is why so many refuse to believe because they cannot understand or refuse to because their is no "real" evidence.

[QUOTE="adv_tr00per"][QUOTE="Trinners"]

Your indoctrinated into religion, not born with it. So technically everybody is born atheist.

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