Atheists, why not pick a Religion?

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#101 Murj
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Maybe create your own religion that believes in every religion just incase ya know?cee1gee

Well well well Mr. Religion, seems like you forgot that what you're suggesting wouldn't work ;)

Most religions will say that you can only worship the one God(s) and no false Gods. You can't believe in more than one religion at once.

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#102 cee1gee
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[QUOTE="cee1gee"]Maybe create your own religion that believes in every religion just incase ya know?Murj

Well well well Mr. Religion, seems like you forgot that what you're suggesting wouldn't work ;)

Most religions will say that you can only worship the one God(s) and no false Gods. You can't believe in more than one religion at once.

and im sure all religions gods want people to love eachother, so why not love every religion?
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#103 Murj
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[QUOTE="Murj"]

[QUOTE="cee1gee"]Maybe create your own religion that believes in every religion just incase ya know?cee1gee

Well well well Mr. Religion, seems like you forgot that what you're suggesting wouldn't work ;)

Most religions will say that you can only worship the one God(s) and no false Gods. You can't believe in more than one religion at once.

and im sure all religions gods want people to love eachother, so why not love every religion?

I like your style. But God does not.

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#104 nimatoad2000
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lol your posts are very funny to read.
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#105 Dariency
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[QUOTE="Murj"]

[QUOTE="cee1gee"]Maybe create your own religion that believes in every religion just incase ya know?cee1gee

Well well well Mr. Religion, seems like you forgot that what you're suggesting wouldn't work ;)

Most religions will say that you can only worship the one God(s) and no false Gods. You can't believe in more than one religion at once.

and im sure all religions gods want people to love eachother, so why not love every religion?

But god doesn't love every religion, at least not in the Christian faith.

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#106 redstorm72
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[QUOTE="Silent-Hal"]I don't see why I should have to conform to what the majority thinks. I like the idealogies a lot of religions have, but I just don't like the idea behind it in general. cee1gee
If the majority of the world believe in something..wouldnt you think for a second that hey..maybe they could be right? not saying we are..but how can a couple billion be wrong

The majority can be wrong quite easily (and frequently). At some time or other,the majority of people believed that global warming wasn't happening, that creationism was true, that fisheries could never be depleted, that we would all be driving flying cars in 1999, etc. My point is, just because many people believe something, doesn't make it anymore credible or true.

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#107 cee1gee
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[QUOTE="cee1gee"][QUOTE="Murj"]

Well well well Mr. Religion, seems like you forgot that what you're suggesting wouldn't work ;)

Most religions will say that you can only worship the one God(s) and no false Gods. You can't believe in more than one religion at once.

dog64

and im sure all religions gods want people to love eachother, so why not love every religion?

But god doesn't love every religion, at least not in the Christian faith.

whoever made up that god doesnt love every religion is just silly, he just wants people to love, and by loving everyone and their religions there would be no problem. and where does it say that? i thought god said to just have faith in him or it or whatever
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#108 bsman00
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Just incase your wrong and something DOES exist out there, they wouldnt be happy you dont believe in them lol

Maybe create your own religion that believes in every religion just incase ya know?

cee1gee

no religion is right.. human do not have the brain capacity to understand god...unless you do then you can tell us all, cause all religion do is guess(faith) what god is.

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#109 BuryMe
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[QUOTE="duxup"]I don't think picking a religion "just in case" is in quite the spirit folks expect...cee1gee
lol true, but its better than nothing right?

Not it's not. It's worse than nothing. At least if you're an athiest, you admit that you don't believe in the diety. Going through the motions just to secure a spot for youself in the afterlife, even though you don't really believe in the diety is the most dishonest thing you could do.

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#110 Dariency
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whoever made up that god doesnt love every religion is just silly, he just wants people to love, and by loving everyone and their religions there would be no problem. and where does it say that? i thought god said to just have faith in him or it or whatevercee1gee

That's who I hope god would be like, but many say that he's not. God is love, but he is also justice. The belief is that if you do not accept Jesus as your savior and worship god, then you will spend all eternity being tortured in hell. Not very nice, but many say that it is just, because god hates sin.

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#111 needled24-7
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No way, they are too cynical and hateful to start up something that involves brotherhood and general loving of ones neigbour..kulmiye
only hateful to people that make ignorant statements :)

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#112 Ingenemployee
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[QUOTE="Ingenemployee"]

[QUOTE="adv_tr00per"] most people who turn atheist were already baptised, probably got their communion and confirmation [QUOTE="AirGuitarist87"][QUOTE="nimatoad2000"]Gratz you just showed the best sign of lack of argument. When a person quotes someone else and picks out a word that is spelt incorrectly in order to make them look bad / stupid instead of actually arguing the statement. It's pretty much a tell tale sign. And oh wow sorry i accidently put a J in education, oh yeah that makes everything I said incorrect or of no value....cee1gee

The same could be said for you attacking the users intelligence, rather than attacking his argument.

thank you

I think you missed the point.

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#113 metroidfood
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It's genius I say!

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#114 Murj
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[QUOTE="kulmiye"]No way, they are too cynical and hateful to start up something that involves brotherhood and general loving of ones neigbour..needled24-7

only hateful to people that make ignorant statements :)

I heard ignorance was bliss! How misleading T~T

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#115 bluezy
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No way, they are too cynical and hateful to start up something that involves brotherhood and general loving of ones neigbour..kulmiye
I'm assuming this is sarcasm, but who said brotherhood and loving your neighbour is exclusive to religious people?
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#116 cyborg100000
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No way am I gonna waste a second of my time with religion, it's the single most ridiculous thing I've ever seen on this planet. All it is is to teach people good morals and manners, nothing else. No one has a clue what happens beyond life and those that think they do are blind.

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#117 metroidfood
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[QUOTE="kulmiye"]No way, they are too cynical and hateful to start up something that involves brotherhood and general loving of ones neigbour..bluezy
I'm assuming this is sarcasm, but who said brotherhood and loving your neighbour is exclusive to religious people?

I am an atheist! Growl! I don't like you because I'm amoral and evil!

[spoiler] [/spoiler]

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#118 ArmoredAshes
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Just incase your wrong and something DOES exist out there, they wouldnt be happy you dont believe in them lol

Maybe create your own religion that believes in every religion just incase ya know?

cee1gee

Thats like people who do good things just to avoid going to hell....which in itself is a selfish thing to do....So nawh...im gonna go on beliving how i do and doing good things because i WANT to not because im afraid

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#119 _Tobli_
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So I say that even though believing in things that you can see and touch and prove logically with evidance and facts are good, people should go beyond that to think in ways that can't be proven. Why you may ask why should I do that when I can easily believe in something that I can prove with tangible evidence and facts, well I can not give you a reason why you should, thats the thing. We are only human and we cannot comprehend what it means to have faith in something that is totally unlike us. That is why so many refuse to believe because they cannot understand or refuse to because their is no "real" evidence GameGuy642003

What brand of nonsense is this?

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#120 dhyce
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What a silly thing to say. I do not believe there is a god, so if I were to go around saying I did it would be dishonest of me, plus, if there were a god that would punish me for simply not believing then they could see through my charade and know I truly do not believe in him/her/it/them. So, I would much rather just be honest with people.

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#121 duxup
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It's genius I say!

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#122 metroidfood
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Oooh I like trader joes. They've got good cheesy poofs.

duxup

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#123 MetalGear_Ninty
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O T of little faith -- can't you see the perfectly logical, well reasoned argument purported by TC?:P
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#124 th3warr1or
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Actually, you've got a point. I hereby pledge my allegiance to the Norse god Odin, just in case they were really onto something in Scandanavia way back when.Engrish_Major
Odin is awesome.
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#125 Avechbobo
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I agree with most people's views: I don't want to waste lifetime with believing in something just because somehow, somewhere it could exist (like the spaghetti monster could as well). Plus believing in something one does not have proof for is pretty much the definition of ignorance. The same that goes with "believing beyond really knowing" here goes with homeopathy, telepathy, telekinesis and all the other esoterism. It's plainly stupid and neither one of those practices does have a right to demand acknowledgement.
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#126 Dr_Manfattan
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cee1gee ...do you spend all your time thinking of terrible, badly thought out ideas, that will instantly be seen as almost completely false and either based on lies or just bad ideas? also why do you just seem to only make these posts about religion/atheism? there are other people who actually know what their talking about who can create decent questions, just stop.

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#127 poptart
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Hmmm… I choose Hinduism. Now my knowledge of this religion is pretty poor, however I think (although could be wrong) that if I don't live my life as the Hindu deities intend and simply continue with my hedonistic lifestyle, my punishment is to return to earth as another human being once I die.

That's not too bad a punishment I say. I could live with that.

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#128 -Sun_Tzu-
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Why would God care if I believe in him or not? Is he self-conscious to the point where if I am not a "believer" he will condemn me to hell for all of eternity?
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#129 Ugalde-
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It's hard to believe in something that you know isin't real believe me.
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#130 foxhound_fox
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I never knew Pascal's Wager could be applied in such a broad sense... :|

Religion (or its constituent parts) isn't (aren't) a fruit(s) that can be "plucked" from a tree. It varies from person to person and "picking one just in case" is the absolute worst reason to be part of a religion.

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#131 tony2077ca
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i think there may or may not be a god but i still won't pick a religon they are all crap like what jesus said on family guy

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#132 battlefront23
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Atheism is a religion tho.

>_>

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#133 foxhound_fox
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Atheism is a religion tho.

>_>

battlefront23


Sarcasm?

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#134 battlefront23
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[QUOTE="battlefront23"]

Atheism is a religion tho.

>_>

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Sarcasm?

Nope.

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#135 foxhound_fox
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Nope.

battlefront23


Unfortunate for you then.

Atheism is not a religion. A religion involves usually these three things: 1) a dogma, 2) ritual and 3) a supportive and usually hierarchical community that shares beliefs and participates in ritual together. Atheism does not have a defined dogma (or set of holy books), does not have any rituals associated with its membership and there is no real community to even speak of... besides some casual meeting groups that get together to talk and drink some beers.

If you wish to define why you think atheism is a religion, and not the lack thereof, feel free to do so, because I'll be glad to refute you. Atheism is a belief about God, gods and/or the supernatural, it is not an organized set of beliefs about morality, law or society. There are atheistic religions, but atheism is not a religion within itself.

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#136 battlefront23
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Unfortunate for you then.

Atheism is not a religion. A religion involves usually these three things: 1) a dogma, 2) ritual and 3) a supportive and usually hierarchical community that shares beliefs and participates in ritual together. Atheism does not have a defined dogma (or set of holy books), does not have any rituals associated with its membership and there is no real community to even speak of... besides some casual meeting groups that get together to talk and drink some beers.

If you wish to define why you think atheism is a religion, and not the lack thereof, feel free to do so, because I'll be glad to refute you. Atheism is a belief about God, gods and/or the supernatural, it is not an organized set of beliefs about morality, law or society. There are atheistic religions, but atheism is not a religion within itself.

foxhound_fox

Someone wake up on the wrong end of the bed this morning? Anyway, according to wikipedia, "Atheism can be either the rejection of theism,[1] or the position that deities do not exist." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atheism The rejection of a belief or absence of an opinion regarding a deity is still a religion, at least to me it is, because there is effort from someone to literally claim there is no God or to be completely apathetic and have no say on it. You make claims about something with no complete certainty regarding a deity, hence in my opinion slapping the religion tag on to Atheism.

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#137 cee1gee
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cee1gee ...do you spend all your time thinking of terrible, badly thought out ideas, that will instantly be seen as almost completely false and either based on lies or just bad ideas? also why do you just seem to only make these posts about religion/atheism? there are other people who actually know what their talking about who can create decent questions, just stop.

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i dont always make religious/atheist threads...i maybe made them 3 times
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#138 Dr_Brocoli
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Rofl i like the create own religion idea. But like Homer Simpson says: When im on my death bed, ill pray like hell!. But yeah, i wouldnt want to go to heaven anyway isnce God is pure evil if what is written in the bible is true.
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#139 foxhound_fox
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The rejection of a belief or absence of an opinion regarding a deity is still a religion, at least to me it is, because there is effort from someone to literally claim there is no God or to be completely apathetic and have no say on it. You make claims about something with no complete certainty regarding a deity, hence in my opinion slapping the religion tag on to Atheism.

battlefront23


Key-phrase here: "at least to me it is." To the general society, a position about a belief is not a religion. A religion consists of much more than a mere belief. It is an organized community that partakes in rituals, expresses dogma, usually has holy texts (whether written or orally transmitted) and most importantly of all, has an expressed set of morality rules that govern the person who is a member of that religion.

Saying "I don't believe in God" is not a religion. When you are a member of a religion, you have to do many things that go well beyond stating "I believe in God." A religion is a set of beliefs and practices. Atheism is a singular belief about one thing. 1) There are no rituals associated with it (atheists don't sacrifice children to Satan), 2) there is no atheist holy text (i.e. The God Delusion or the Necronomicon), 3) there is no ascribed atheist dogma (every atheist has different positions on various issues, i.e. abortion, politics, death penalty, etc.) and 4) most importantly, there is no one particular belief that every "atheist" shares (i.e. Theravada Buddhists are "atheists" but a member of a religion that in no way represents all atheists).

Atheism is most definitely not a religion in the general sense. There is so much more to being a member of a "religion" than there is to stating a belief about the supernatural. Instead of forming your own ideas, you should check out what the defintion of a "religion" is: http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/religion

re⋅li⋅gion [ri-lij-uhn]


–noun

1. a set of beliefs concerning the cause, nature, and purpose of the universe, esp. when considered as the creation of a superhuman agency or agencies, usually involving devotional and ritual observances, and often containing a moral code governing the conduct of human affairs.

2. a specific fundamental set of beliefs and practices generally agreed upon by a number of persons or sects.

3. the body of persons adhering to a particular set of beliefs and practices.

I believe that this is what you are talking about: http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/belief


be⋅lief [bi-leef]


–noun

1. something believed; an opinion or conviction: a belief that the earth is flat.

2. confidence in the truth or existence of something not immediately susceptible to rigorous proof: a statement unworthy of belief.

3. confidence; faith; trust: a child's belief in his parents.

4. a religious tenet or tenets; religious creed or faith: the Christian belief.

~~~

Atheism is a belief, not a religion.

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#140 Immortalica
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I just can't make myself believe in a religion. I am very happy with none at all. If I were to choose one, I'd pick Satanism.
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#141 stepnkev
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Well - I used to be Agnostic and my decision to join a religion really had nothing to do with 'Maybe I'm wrong' or 'I need to cover my bases', etc. I decided to get baptized because this was really what I wanted to do and how I wanted to live my life.

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#142 2mrw
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but you know, you will still go to hell, if you picked up a religion which you dun believe in............i feel atheists are right when they dun believe in the unknown, it's what a sane person would do, but on the other hand WHAT IF there is truely a god, so basically you are dead in both cases, you should prepare for hell rightnow.

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#143 Avechbobo
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It's always satisfying to assume that other people are in the same group as you are (religion, game genre preferences, intelligence) when really, they're not. So, to make this clear: 1. Atheism is not a religion. Star Trek fans, for example, are no religion either; they don't believe in a supernatural being (this being anything logical we can connect to being or not being a religion). Neither does atheism. Saying "There is no god!" is not the same thing as saying there is. Because what makes a religion is a pro statement: There IS ... Not: There is NOT ... 2. From what I know, agnosticism says "We don't know if there's a god or not". Atheism's point is either "We don't believe there is a god" or "We believe there is no god". The german (I myself am swiss) Wikipedia states that "there's no scientific, generally accepted definition for the term 'religion'". EDIT: [...]scientifically generally accepted definition for the term 'religion'[...]
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#144 samuraiguns
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:lol:

this bomb shelter knowledge, is exactly why I don't believe in anything as of current.

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#145 hyrueprince11
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the day a god actually shows up I will pick a religion, I don't believe miracles are a prove of a god because they happen with every religion, also if there's a god why are there so many bad people who have really good lifes and really good people that have horrible lifes, that's what makes me doubt the most of a god

if people could be trusted maybe I'd have a religion and I wouldn't doubt that most religious guys have good intentions but who knows maybe the guys who made religions just wanted to make money

what I belive is there's something superior to us but he/she/it is not a god, it's something like we are for brain cells or germs

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#146 deactivated-5a79221380856
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Atheism is a religion tho.

>_>

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Whoah, whoah, whoah. If atheism is a religion, then so is theism, which means that Christians belong to two different religions. Now, as for the topic, I would select Buddhism, because you can still be atheistic and reincarnation makes slightly more sense to me than an eternal resting place. Plus, they view the life of the unborn as sacred.
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#147 deadevil666
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cee1gee ...do you spend all your time thinking of terrible, badly thought out ideas, that will instantly be seen as almost completely false and either based on lies or just bad ideas? also why do you just seem to only make these posts about religion/atheism? there are other people who actually know what their talking about who can create decent questions, just stop.

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i dont always make religious/atheist threads...i maybe made them 3 times

That's 3 too many.

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#149 Theokhoth
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I don't know if God would like that. Besides, why pick one if you don't really believe it's true? Slightly counter-productive if you ask me. It's like asking a Christian to pick Islam.

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#150 ehsan8888
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In my opinion Religion loses its meaning when a person just chooses it as a backup.

Oh and I don't think that Atheism is a Religion.

a- no, none

theism- the belief in one God as the creator and ruler of the universe, without rejection of revelation

Religion- Belief in and reverence for a supernatural power or powers regarded as creator and governor of the universe.