Atheists, why not pick a Religion?

It's like asking a Christian to pick Islam.

Theokhoth

[QUOTE="Theokhoth"]

It's like asking a Christian to pick Islam.

ehsan8888

Do you find the "Jesus is God" part valid?

athiesm is not a religion.. / facepalm athiesm is the belief that their is no god (disbelief in god) and the philosophy that religion is worthless. that is not a religious belief system, it is lack of a religious belief system.nimatoad2000

[QUOTE="ehsan8888"][QUOTE="Theokhoth"]

It's like asking a Christian to pick Islam.

Theokhoth

Do you find the "Jesus is God" part valid?

I get annoyed when people say "may as well believe in God now instead of finding out your wrong later."

I'm sure it's just as damnable to "play it safe," considering how fake your faith is. I'll live my life honestly, and try to be as good as person as I can be. I have a hard time believing I'll burn in hell for being true to myself.

To be honest, I was thinking about Discordianism a while back. Seems cool to me.

Belief is what you believe to be, or to be true. How can you not get that? The "God" would know you didn't really believe anyways.

I choose not to because I'm not going to do anything "just cause". Nothing in my life has led me to believe in any religion.btaylor2404

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No way, they are too cynical and hateful to start up something that involves brotherhood and general loving of ones neigbour..kulmiye

[QUOTE="btaylor2404"]I choose not to because I'm not going to do anything "just cause". Nothing in my life has led me to believe in any religion.cee1gee

Why does there have to be a God involved in being on the planet or anything being created?

[QUOTE="cee1gee"][QUOTE="btaylor2404"]I choose not to because I'm not going to do anything "just cause". Nothing in my life has led me to believe in any religion.SouL-Tak3R

Why does there have to be a God involved in being on the planet or anything being created?

[QUOTE="Silent-Hal"]I don't see why I should have to conform to what the majority thinks. I like the idealogies a lot of religions have, but I just don't like the idea behind it in general. cee1gee

[QUOTE="cee1gee"][QUOTE="Silent-Hal"]I don't see why I should have to conform to what the majority thinks. I like the idealogies a lot of religions have, but I just don't like the idea behind it in general. htekemerald

because isnt what made the universe a God?cee1gee

[QUOTE="SouL-Tak3R"]

[QUOTE="cee1gee"] what about just being here?cee1gee

Why does there have to be a God involved in being on the planet or anything being created?

Well some people think more in the ways of proof. There is no proof of any god. But everything can be explained in scientific terms. The universe is so vast I don't see why it would be restricted to a God just because we can't comprehend billions of years of change to create what exists now.

[QUOTE="btaylor2404"]I choose not to because I'm not going to do anything "just cause". Nothing in my life has led me to believe in any religion.cee1gee

[QUOTE="btaylor2404"]I choose not to because I'm not going to do anything "just cause". Nothing in my life has led me to believe in any religion.cee1gee

This topic is a serious matter, I would not joke about this.

I believe in God, in Jesus Christ as Lord. This topic is so massive there is no way to logically explain religion, and there is no way of pursuading everyone to believe a certain religion. For example if Jesus came to earth in one way or another and everyone saw him there would still be some that would refuse to believe.

In my opinion it is sad, in todays world religion and God are being pushed out of peoples lives, people are just refusing to believe in any of this "jargon". In the past like a thousand years ago up until now religion was a part of everything and how poeple lived their lives, but now as I have stated religion is being pushed away.

So topics like these are interesting, you get to see what peoples take on religion are but it hurts more than helps, because people will argue and refuse to believe.

Also People might say that they don't believe because there is no evidence. There is nothing to believe in because it cannot be defined in the first place.

Yes that is a true fact. many people like tangible things they can touch and see so that is one reason why people have a hard time believing in something they can not see or touch. But people should go beyond what they see and feel, they should go beyond the logic and evidence of explaining things. Don't get me wrong thinking things out logically is excellent I do it all the time.

That is why they call people in religions, Living by "faith", they choose to believe in things that has no scientific evidence and cannot be defined by human standards. As I said they "choose", no one is forcing them to believe in anything. the same goes with Atheists no one is forcing them to believe in anything, I certaintly am not forcing anyone.

So I say that even though believing in things that you can see and touch and prove logically with evidance and facts are good, people should go beyond that to think in ways that can't be proven. Why you may ask why should I do that when I can easily believe in something that I can prove with tangible evidence and facts, well I can not give you a reason why you should, thats the thing. We are only human and we cannot comprehend what it means to have faith in something that is totally unlike us. That is why so many refuse to believe because they cannot understand or refuse to because their is no "real" evidence.

This topic is a serious matter, I would not joke about this.

I believe in God, in Jesus Christ as Lord. This topic is so massive there is no way to logically explain religion, and there is no way of pursuading everyone to believe a certain religion. For example if Jesus came to earth in one way or another and everyone saw him there would still be some that would refuse to believe.

In my opinion it is sad, in todays world religion and God are being pushed out of peoples lives, people are just refusing to believe in any of this "jargon".In the past like a thousand years ago up until now religion was a part of everything and how poeple lived their lives, but now as I have stated religion is being pushed away.

So topics like these are interesting, you get to see what peoples take on religion are but it hurts more than helps, because people will argue and refuse to believe.

Also People might say that they don't believe because there is no evidence. There is nothing to believe in because it cannot be defined in the first place.

Yes that is a true fact. many people like tangible things they can touch and see so that is one reason why people have a hard time believing in something they can not see or touch. But people should go beyond what they see and feel, they should go beyond the logic and evidence of explaining things. Don't get me wrong thinking things out logically is excellent I do it all the time.

That is why they call people in religions, Living by "faith", they choose to believe in things that has no scientific evidence and cannot be defined by human standards. As I said they "choose", no one is forcing them to believe in anything. the same goes with Atheists no one is forcing them to believe in anything, I certaintly am not forcing anyone.

So I say that even though believing in things that you can see and touch and prove logically with evidance and facts are good, people should go beyond that to think in ways that can't be proven. Why you may ask why should I do that when I can easily believe in something that I can prove with tangible evidence and facts, well I can not give you a reason why you should, thats the thing. We are only human and we cannot comprehend what it means to have faith in something that is totally unlike us. That is why so many refuse to believe because they cannot understand or refuse to because their is no "real" evidence.

GameGuy642003

and no i cant see or touch gravity but i know it exists, i just have a hard time believing in something that cant be proven.

This topic is a serious matter, I would not joke about this.

I believe in God, in Jesus Christ as Lord. This topic is so massive there is no way to logically explain religion, and there is no way of pursuading everyone to believe a certain religion. For example if Jesus came to earth in one way or another and everyone saw him there would still be some that would refuse to believe.

In my opinion it is sad, in todays world religion and God are being pushed out of peoples lives, people are just refusing to believe in any of this "jargon". In the past like a thousand years ago up until now religion was a part of everything and how poeple lived their lives, but now as I have stated religion is being pushed away.

So topics like these are interesting, you get to see what peoples take on religion are but it hurts more than helps, because people will argue and refuse to believe.

Also People might say that they don't believe because there is no evidence. There is nothing to believe in because it cannot be defined in the first place.

Yes that is a true fact. many people like tangible things they can touch and see so that is one reason why people have a hard time believing in something they can not see or touch. But people should go beyond what they see and feel, they should go beyond the logic and evidence of explaining things. Don't get me wrong thinking things out logically is excellent I do it all the time.

That is why they call people in religions, Living by "faith", they choose to believe in things that has no scientific evidence and cannot be defined by human standards. As I said they "choose", no one is forcing them to believe in anything. the same goes with Atheists no one is forcing them to believe in anything, I certaintly am not forcing anyone.

So I say that even though believing in things that you can see and touch and prove logically with evidance and facts are good, people should go beyond that to think in ways that can't be proven. Why you may ask why should I do that when I can easily believe in something that I can prove with tangible evidence and facts, well I can not give you a reason why you should, thats the thing. We are only human and we cannot comprehend what it means to have faith in something that is totally unlike us. That is why so many refuse to believe because they cannot understand or refuse to because their is no "real" evidence.

GameGuy642003

The same thing can be applied to Santa Clause. You woke up one morning, and there are your presents under the tree. That's all the evidence you need. Then you discover it was your parents all along.

We just need to find our real parents. Then God will be pushed away for good, just like Zeus and his buddies.

This topic is a serious matter, I would not joke about this.

I believe in God, in Jesus Christ as Lord. This topic is so massive there is no way to logically explain religion, and there is no way of pursuading everyone to believe a certain religion. For example if Jesus came to earth in one way or another and everyone saw him there would still be some that would refuse to believe.

In my opinion it is sad, in todays world religion and God are being pushed out of peoples lives, people are just refusing to believe in any of this "jargon". In the past like a thousand years ago up until now religion was a part of everything and how poeple lived their lives, but now as I have stated religion is being pushed away.

So topics like these are interesting, you get to see what peoples take on religion are but it hurts more than helps, because people will argue and refuse to believe.

Also People might say that they don't believe because there is no evidence. There is nothing to believe in because it cannot be defined in the first place.

Yes that is a true fact. many people like tangible things they can touch and see so that is one reason why people have a hard time believing in something they can not see or touch. But people should go beyond what they see and feel, they should go beyond the logic and evidence of explaining things. Don't get me wrong thinking things out logically is excellent I do it all the time.

That is why they call people in religions, Living by "faith", they choose to believe in things that has no scientific evidence and cannot be defined by human standards. As I said they "choose", no one is forcing them to believe in anything. the same goes with Atheists no one is forcing them to believe in anything, I certaintly am not forcing anyone.

So I say that even though believing in things that you can see and touch and prove logically with evidance and facts are good, people should go beyond that to think in ways that can't be proven. Why you may ask why should I do that when I can easily believe in something that I can prove with tangible evidence and facts, well I can not give you a reason why you should, thats the thing. We are only human and we cannot comprehend what it means to have faith in something that is totally unlike us. That is why so many refuse to believe because they cannot understand or refuse to because their is no "real" evidence.

GameGuy642003

So... then... it's a good thing I believe in the Flying Spaghetti Monster and he must exist.

Glad we cleared that up.

This topic is a serious matter, I would not joke about this.

I believe in God, in Jesus Christ as Lord. This topic is so massive there is no way to logically explain religion, and there is no way of pursuading everyone to believe a certain religion. For example if Jesus came to earth in one way or another and everyone saw him there would still be some that would refuse to believe.

In my opinion it is sad, in todays world religion and God are being pushed out of peoples lives, people are just refusing to believe in any of this "jargon". In the past like a thousand years ago up until now religion was a part of everything and how poeple lived their lives, but now as I have stated religion is being pushed away.

So topics like these are interesting, you get to see what peoples take on religion are but it hurts more than helps, because people will argue and refuse to believe.

Also People might say that they don't believe because there is no evidence. There is nothing to believe in because it cannot be defined in the first place.

Yes that is a true fact. many people like tangible things they can touch and see so that is one reason why people have a hard time believing in something they can not see or touch. But people should go beyond what they see and feel, they should go beyond the logic and evidence of explaining things. Don't get me wrong thinking things out logically is excellent I do it all the time.

That is why they call people in religions, Living by "faith", they choose to believe in things that has no scientific evidence and cannot be defined by human standards. As I said they "choose", no one is forcing them to believe in anything. the same goes with Atheists no one is forcing them to believe in anything, I certaintly am not forcing anyone.

So I say that even though believing in things that you can see and touch and prove logically with evidance and facts are good, people should go beyond that to think in ways that can't be proven. Why you may ask why should I do that when I can easily believe in something that I can prove with tangible evidence and facts, well I can not give you a reason why you should, thats the thing. We are only human and we cannot comprehend what it means to have faith in something that is totally unlike us. That is why so many refuse to believe because they cannot understand or refuse to because their is no "real" evidence.

GameGuy642003

-Religion doesn't need to exist. you can have your deity, but the organization of "believers" doesn't need to exist.

-I don't see where you're going here. And, if I choose to believe Black people should die, isn't that something that should be stopped?

-How is this good?

-I honestly don't know what you're saying here.

Just incase your wrong and something DOES exist out there, they wouldnt be happy you dont believe in them lol

Maybe create your own religion that believes in every religion just incase ya know?

cee1gee

Why should an atheist lie to themself by saying they believe in something that they don't actually believe? Don't most religions require devotion? Why force yourself to devote yourself to something you don't believe in?

the final verdict is: wish from the deepest point in ur heart that you are right in ur choice, wether you are an athiest or belonging to a religion, you can't prove you are right, and you can't be proven you are wrong.

it's a gamble.

Just incase your wrong and something DOES exist out there, they wouldnt be happy you dont believe in them lol

Maybe create your own religion that believes in every religion just incase ya know?

cee1gee

obvious troll is obvious

Oh gee yeah, I'm gonna just pick some religion and say i believe in that when I really dont. Yeah thats gonna really help me IF there is something after life.

Because I don't have a need for a crutch like religion. And I sure as hell don't need a god to control my life. I'd like to live it whichever way I chose to without the rules of religions....tocool340

[QUOTE="tocool340"]Because I don't have a need for a crutch like religion. And I sure as hell don't need a god to control my life. I'd like to live it whichever way I chose to without the rules of religions....2mrw

+1; and in fact I believe if the Catholic god exists, many Atheists have greater chances of getting into heaven than the Pope.

[QUOTE="tocool340"]Because I don't have a need for a crutch like religion. And I sure as hell don't need a god to control my life. I'd like to live it whichever way I chose to without the rules of religions....2mrw

why ceegee thats the greatist idea ive ever heard me and all my atheist buddies are going to go start the church of atheism

*end sarcasim*

[QUOTE="GameGuy642003"]

This topic is a serious matter, I would not joke about this.

I believe in God, in Jesus Christ as Lord. This topic is so massive there is no way to logically explain religion, and there is no way of pursuading everyone to believe a certain religion. For example if Jesus came to earth in one way or another and everyone saw him there would still be some that would refuse to believe.

In my opinion it is sad, in todays world religion and God are being pushed out of peoples lives, people are just refusing to believe in any of this "jargon". In the past like a thousand years ago up until now religion was a part of everything and how poeple lived their lives, but now as I have stated religion is being pushed away.

So topics like these are interesting, you get to see what peoples take on religion are but it hurts more than helps, because people will argue and refuse to believe.

Also People might say that they don't believe because there is no evidence. There is nothing to believe in because it cannot be defined in the first place.

Yes that is a true fact. many people like tangible things they can touch and see so that is one reason why people have a hard time believing in something they can not see or touch. But people should go beyond what they see and feel, they should go beyond the logic and evidence of explaining things. Don't get me wrong thinking things out logically is excellent I do it all the time.

That is why they call people in religions, Living by "faith", they choose to believe in things that has no scientific evidence and cannot be defined by human standards. As I said they "choose", no one is forcing them to believe in anything. the same goes with Atheists no one is forcing them to believe in anything, I certaintly am not forcing anyone.

So I say that even though believing in things that you can see and touch and prove logically with evidance and facts are good, people should go beyond that to think in ways that can't be proven. Why you may ask why should I do that when I can easily believe in something that I can prove with tangible evidence and facts, well I can not give you a reason why you should, thats the thing. We are only human and we cannot comprehend what it means to have faith in something that is totally unlike us. That is why so many refuse to believe because they cannot understand or refuse to because their is no "real" evidence.

FamiBox

So... then... it's a good thing I believe in the Flying Spaghetti Monster and he must exist.

Glad we cleared that up.

he is basically saying, why not think outside of the box? why not go further and say hey..just because i cant see it, doesnt mean its not there...just like the air we breathe

cee1gee

Im not Athiest nor do I have a religion. I do not want to be labeled. A lot of Athiests are always saying stuff about how religion is bad whenever religion is brought up. I respect all religions and that is why I dont pick one. Instead of choosing im just going to respect all

Im not Athiest nor do I have a religion. I do not want to be labeled. A lot of Athiests are always saying stuff about how religion is bad whenever religion is brought up. I respect all religions and that is why I dont pick one. Instead of choosing im just going to respect all

brasscaribou

[QUOTE="cee1gee"] he is basically saying, why not think outside of the box? why not go further and say hey..just because i cant see it, doesnt mean its not there...just like the air we breathe

Danm_999

No. It doesn't work like that. I don't believe in any religion, so I'm not just going to 'pick one'. I don't need to have a religion in my life; a set of rules and beliefs to live my life by. I'm fine the way I am.
Also, I always think, if there happens to be a God- wouldn't they be understanding of atheists for having their beliefs? What sort of God would be like 'no, you can't come in you didn't believe in me'? :P

but you know, you will still go to hell, if you picked up a religion which you dun believe in............i feel atheists are right when they dun believe in the unknown, it's what a sane person would do, but on the other hand WHAT IF there is truely a god, so basically you are dead in both cases, you should prepare for hell rightnow.

2mrw

Im not Athiest nor do I have a religion. I do not want to be labeled. A lot of Athiests are always saying stuff about how religion is bad whenever religion is brought up. I respect all religions and that is why I dont pick one. Instead of choosing im just going to respect all

brasscaribou

As far as religion that relies on deities, I think I'm good being agnostic. Many pantheonic religions don't have a heaven you go to for being good, most everyone goes to Hades in Greek mythology and you don't get a seat at the table next to Zeus for being a nice guy, so as far as those are concerned there's no need to take any special precautions. With monotheistic/Abrahamic religions my view is this, if god knows everything then he knew what he was going to do before he did it, which means he created us knowing all the problems we were going to cause for ourselves and knowing that there would come a point where he wasn't going to interevene directly. He also knew that he was going to promise salvation to those who accepted him as god, but that the evidence left supporting this suppostition was scarce and that the only way we were going to accept him was by following little clues left behind that are only really clues if you interpret them in a specific way. In short, this god just sounds a little self-absorbed and needy, not to mention a little petty. Someone could dedicate their entire life to trying to help other people but not believe in god because of a lack of proper evidence and they would be doomed to hell for an eternity. Thanks for the offer of salvation, but I don't feel the need to hedge my bets on this one, I feel comfortable taking my chances with Satan if this version of god is indeed real. Most other religions don't deal with god and heaven, they deal with enlightenment, zen, and other such concepts so I don't feel that the afterlife is that much of a concern. My outlook is just to lead a good life, try to find some sort of inner peace, and always try to maintain perspective and keep others in mind. If god is going to keep me out of heaven because I don't believe in him I don't want in anyways, if that's enough to get into heaven then I'd be happy to be there for eternity.

Yeah, because I'm sure an all powerful and all knowing god is going to be fooled :roll:

Honestly, as an Athiest, the reason I haven't done what the TC suggested is because the notion of a god existing is just so absurdly stupid, that I find it hard to even consider seriously.

Seriously, just search 'George Carlin Religion is bull****' in youtube and if that doesn't convert you to athiesm, nothing will.

[QUOTE="cee1gee"] he is basically saying, why not think outside of the box? why not go further and say hey..just because i cant see it, doesnt mean its not there...just like the air we breathe

Danm_999

Also, we know air is there because we can measure it. We can even put smoke in it and see how it reacts.

To some, any answer is better than no answer. I don't need a crutch like religion to get through life.