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#101 Jipset
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[QUOTE="Chiddaling"]Where are the haters now? I know GS is filled with 'em. Every other site I go to they love Avatar. GS just got owned.giant_bowser
In fairness, the trailer was garbage. Any negative opinions made prior to its release were totally justified.

Agreed. The trailers made the movie look really bland.
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#102 Chiddaling
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[QUOTE="Chiddaling"]Where are the haters now? I know GS is filled with 'em. Every other site I go to they love Avatar. GS just got owned.giant_bowser
In fairness, the trailer was garbage. Any negative opinions made prior to its release were totally justified.

The trailers are nothing. If you researched enough, and if you had seen the 15-minute preview on the big IMAX-3D screen, you'd know Avatar is worth the hype. Now if your basing Avatar off the trailers, then my god...prepare to get owned on Friday. ;)
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#103 not_wanted
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WTF?lol "Avatar has delivered", "The next Star Wars or LOTR", yes I believe it because they say it. This is worse than the hype before the trailer.

Wait for some reviews after the movie is released.

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#104 giant_bowser
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[QUOTE="giant_bowser"][QUOTE="Chiddaling"]Where are the haters now? I know GS is filled with 'em. Every other site I go to they love Avatar. GS just got owned.Chiddaling
In fairness, the trailer was garbage. Any negative opinions made prior to its release were totally justified.

The trailers are nothing. If you researched enough, and if you had seen the 15-minute preview on the big IMAX-3D screen, you'd know Avatar is worth the hype. Now if your basing Avatar off the trailers, then my god...prepare to get owned on Friday. ;)

I would've done said research, if the trailers had inspired in me some confidence for the film. ;)
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#105 Baranga
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Technically, it was released. The world premiere was in London two days ago. It's expanding to Europe starting Tuesday.

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#106 weezyfb
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im all for it
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#107 not_wanted
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Technically, it was released. The world premiere was in London two days ago. It's expanding to Europe starting Tuesday.

Baranga

What I meant is to wait for (more) people's reviews and not just trust some critics. Would you believe me if I told you it was a disaster compared to Star Wars or LOTR?

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#108 Baranga
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[QUOTE="Baranga"]

Technically, it was released. The world premiere was in London two days ago. It's expanding to Europe starting Tuesday.

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What I meant is to wait for (more) people's reviews and not just trust some critics. Would you believe me if I told you it was a disaster compared to Star Wars or LOTR?

If you had good arguments, yes. The critics comparing it to those movie bring such arguments. Which makes it impossible for others to claim otherwise.

As of now, the denial is hilarious. This isn't a certain movie where Costner's hair was added in post-production, nor the most anticipated prequel of all time that begins with talks of blocades and politics.

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#109 JML897
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Now if your basing Avatar off the trailers, then my god...prepare to get owned on Friday. ;)Chiddaling

Because it doesn't look like a movie I'm interested in and it's getting good reviews, that means I'm getting "owned"? :?

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#110 chessmaster1989
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Well, I'm surprised, but I guess I'll probably see it. My opinion of Rotten Tomatoes has gone down ever since The Road got a 71-72% on it...
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#111 F1_2004
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How are there so many reviews if the movie hasn't been released yet? Hypothetically speaking, would reviewers keep getting invited to such pre-screening events if they gave poor scores?
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#112 muffincakes87
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I'm semi-interested now.

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#113 not_wanted
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If you had good arguments, yes. The critics comparing it to those movie bring such arguments. Which makes it impossible for others to claim otherwise.

As of now, the denial is hilarious. This isn't a certain movie where Costner's hair was added in post-production, nor the most anticipated prequel of all time that begins with talks of blocades and politics.

Baranga

You call those good arguments? How can you trust someone claiming Avatar is "the next Star Wars or LOTR" or saying it "has delivered" just because they are movie critics? You may very well not like the movie. Or have you already seen the movie?

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#114 not_wanted
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How are there so many reviews if the movie hasn't been released yet? Hypothetically speaking, would reviewers keep getting invited to such pre-screening events if they gave poor scores?F1_2004
Well it's not like they can know which (or if) reviewers will give poor scores.

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#115 Baranga
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[QUOTE="Baranga"]

If you had good arguments, yes. The critics comparing it to those movie bring such arguments. Which makes it impossible for others to claim otherwise.

As of now, the denial is hilarious. This isn't a certain movie where Costner's hair was added in post-production, nor the most anticipated prequel of all time that begins with talks of blocades and politics.

not_wanted

You call those good arguments? How can you trust someone claiming Avatar is "the next Star Wars or LOTR" or saying it "has delivered" just because they are movie critics? You may very well not like the movie. Or have you already seen the movie?

I've read the script and I followed the production for years. I know that my avatar makes me seem biased, but there's no reason not to by hyped about the first major original IP in years. It's a simple story - basically a space western. Like A New Hope. It's simple, archetypal, yet masterfully told, and that's what matters most. Look at David Lynch's Dune: a visually incredible movie that sunk under the weight of its story. You can't have a better story than Avatar when you're creating this type of movie, a huge space adventure. There's a fine balance between story and the visual component, and Avatar struck it. I am disappointed that some elements were cut, like the dystopian, Blade Runner-ish Earth (although that may be on the DVD), or the purple vegetation. I am also a bit sad that the movie can't possibly explain the world Cameron created. Every little detail, from the floating mountains to the military hardware, has a reason and a detailed scientific explanation. This is an universe of Star Wars magnitude - smaller scale, but more detailed.

Cameron wanted to recreate the "mystical moments" his generation witnessed when 2001 and Star Wars were released. Even only from a technical standpoint, Avatar is comparable to such movies as The Jazz Singer, The Wizard Of Oz, Star Wars or Jurassic Park - it represents the moment when a certain technology finally reached maturity, and was able to draw both audiences and praise based on its strength alone.

How are there so many reviews if the movie hasn't been released yet? Hypothetically speaking, would reviewers keep getting invited to such pre-screening events if they gave poor scores?F1_2004

It was first screened to those that are part of various awards juries. There were advance screenings in Germany and US last week. The world premiere was in London on December 10th, and it's expanding in Europe this week.

Critics are invited to screenings even if they give bad reviews. If not, you bet your ass they'll start a personal war with the studio. They're usually not invited only when they post a few absolutely imbecile reviews to previous movies.

Ebert gave a lukewarm reception to the Avatar preview in August, but his review was very positive.

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#116 not_wanted
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I've read the script and I followed the production for years. I know that my avatar makes me seem biased, but there's no reason not to by hyped about the first major original IP in years.

Baranga

*sees your avatar* Yeah you're biased.:P The problem is that all this hype or I should say too much hype is hurting the movie. It's like that critic said in the youtube video about Titanic, that people want these movies to fail.

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#117 Crusher89
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all of james cameron movies have been good so far. don't know y anyone expected different. can't wait till fri to see this!
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How are there so many reviews if the movie hasn't been released yet? Hypothetically speaking, would reviewers keep getting invited to such pre-screening events if they gave poor scores?F1_2004
Uh, yes, they would. That's their job. There were 3000 people at the Avatar premiere in London, where many of these critics, websites and blogs saw the film and that's what they're reviewing from. How exactly do you "screen" 3000 people to give great reviews?
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#119 ithilgore2006
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Oh yeah, I must say, almost every singel review (even the couple of negtive ones) flat out tell you, see this in the theater, in 3D, and don't see it any other way, at least for the first time.

I just don't see the point of seeing a movie like this in 2D, on a DVD. It just seems like a waste of time

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#120 LoG-Sacrament
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Well, whoever said it was the next Star Wars or LOTR... I really wish they wouldn't have done that.. because both Star Wars and LOTR are extremly over rated film productions. Sure, they were good, but definately not that amazing as most people think they are.

Avatar will be a great film. Fun to watch.. with a great story about how human nature really is.. unfortunately it'll be spoiled by the fairy tale ending all hollywood movies have.

LOTR is overrated by whom? clearly the movies were excellent productions and worthy of praise. sure, a small group of lotr fanboys were going to claim them as the second coming so long as they didnt give gollum cowboy boots and gandalf a santa hat, but the movies were still rich in epic drama and models of technical proficiency by any reasonable standard.
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#121 F1_2004
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[QUOTE="F1_2004"]How are there so many reviews if the movie hasn't been released yet? Hypothetically speaking, would reviewers keep getting invited to such pre-screening events if they gave poor scores?ithilgore2006
Uh, yes, they would. That's their job. There were 3000 people at the Avatar premiere in London, where many of these critics, websites and blogs saw the film and that's what they're reviewing from. How exactly do you "screen" 3000 people to give great reviews?

Well quite easily. Invitations don't make themselves, someone does go through the list and invite professional reviewers and it's not too hard to look at their history and filter out the ones that give poor reviews.
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#122 Samurai_Xavier
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[QUOTE="ithilgore2006"][QUOTE="F1_2004"]How are there so many reviews if the movie hasn't been released yet? Hypothetically speaking, would reviewers keep getting invited to such pre-screening events if they gave poor scores?F1_2004
Uh, yes, they would. That's their job. There were 3000 people at the Avatar premiere in London, where many of these critics, websites and blogs saw the film and that's what they're reviewing from. How exactly do you "screen" 3000 people to give great reviews?

Well quite easily. Invitations don't make themselves, someone does go through the list and invite professional reviewers and it's not too hard to look at their history and filter out the ones that give poor reviews.

Thats not how it works. They cant do that. If they dont invite a certain critic because he/she gave them bad reviews, they lose all credibility and the critic will probably rip them apart. Thats why they invite every single major critic. And thats why the movie is screened to every single major critic. They leave absolutely no one out. This is the way its done for pretty much ALL movies. If a movie isnt screened to critics beforehand, the movie loses all credibility.

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#123 ithilgore2006
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[QUOTE="ithilgore2006"][QUOTE="F1_2004"]How are there so many reviews if the movie hasn't been released yet? Hypothetically speaking, would reviewers keep getting invited to such pre-screening events if they gave poor scores?F1_2004
Uh, yes, they would. That's their job. There were 3000 people at the Avatar premiere in London, where many of these critics, websites and blogs saw the film and that's what they're reviewing from. How exactly do you "screen" 3000 people to give great reviews?

Well quite easily. Invitations don't make themselves, someone does go through the list and invite professional reviewers and it's not too hard to look at their history and filter out the ones that give poor reviews.

And how exactly does that stop the critics they left out giving the movie bad reviews? Kinda seems a bit pointless, don't you think
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#124 chaplainDMK
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Wow this is probably one of the first movies ive seen people say that "t3h gr4phix r0x!".
Hmn i think System-Warrius syndrome has been discovered

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#125 xionvalkyrie
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Meh, having furries really just kills about half of my motivation to see the movie, even if the critics like it.

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#126 teh_shogun
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looks generic.

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#127 aaronmullan
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Meh, having furries really just kills about half of my motivation to see the movie, even if the critics like it.

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#128 Shiggums
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That's cool, but I'm still not interested. I might see it when it gets released on DVD.

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#129 Samurai_Xavier
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Lol, its funny, most people who claim have no interest in the movie will probably end up seeing it in theatres anyways. You know why? Because its a movie you HAVE to see in theatres. There's no way around it. Its a revolutionary film. People will talk about it. Its going to be something that everyone has to see.

I remember my parents being so excited when Star Wars was re-released in theatres in the late 90s, because they missed their chance to see the movie when it first came out. It is something that they had regreted their whole lives. Avatar is this kind of film.

Its something that if you end up seeing in DVD later, you will probably regret because the movie is so damn amazing. This movie has to be seen in IMAX 3D.

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#130 biggest_loser
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How long till Avatar 2: He's Back and He's Angry?

The next Star Wars? That scares me :(

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#131 Shiggums
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Lol, its funny, most people who claim have no interest in the movie will probably end up seeing it in theatres anyways. You know why? Because its a movie you HAVE to see in theatres. There's no way around it. Its a revolutionary film.

Its something that if you end up seeing in DVD later, you will probably regret because the movie is so damn amazing. This movie has to be seen in IMAX 3D.

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Eh...no, I disagree. What difference does it make if you see it in a theater or in your own home? Plus, I live a life of no regrets

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#132 Samurai_Xavier
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[QUOTE="Samurai_Xavier"]

Lol, its funny, most people who claim have no interest in the movie will probably end up seeing it in theatres anyways. You know why? Because its a movie you HAVE to see in theatres. There's no way around it. Its a revolutionary film.

Its something that if you end up seeing in DVD later, you will probably regret because the movie is so damn amazing. This movie has to be seen in IMAX 3D.

Shiggums

Eh...no, I disagree. What difference does it make if you see it in a theater or in your own home? Plus, I live a life of no regrets

The technology behind it is so incredible that it is something that you have to actually experience. You lose the "experience" if you watch it at home.

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#133 Kikouken
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How long is this movie?
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#134 Shiggums
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[QUOTE="Shiggums"]

[QUOTE="Samurai_Xavier"]

Lol, its funny, most people who claim have no interest in the movie will probably end up seeing it in theatres anyways. You know why? Because its a movie you HAVE to see in theatres. There's no way around it. Its a revolutionary film.

Its something that if you end up seeing in DVD later, you will probably regret because the movie is so damn amazing. This movie has to be seen in IMAX 3D.

Samurai_Xavier

Eh...no, I disagree. What difference does it make if you see it in a theater or in your own home? Plus, I live a life of no regrets

The technology behind it is so incredible that it is something that you have to actually experience. You lose the "experience" if you watch it at home.

How so? Because the screen is smaller and the sound is less loud?

To me, I'd rather watch a movie at home where the seats are comfortable and the floors are clean than in a theater which is the opposite.

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#135 Samurai_Xavier
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[QUOTE="Samurai_Xavier"]

[QUOTE="Shiggums"]

Eh...no, I disagree. What difference does it make if you see it in a theater or in your own home? Plus, I live a life of no regrets

Shiggums

The technology behind it is so incredible that it is something that you have to actually experience. You lose the "experience" if you watch it at home.

How so? Because the screen is smaller and the sound is less loud?

To me, I'd rather watch a movie at home where the seats are comfortable and the floors are clean than in a theater which is the opposite.

I guess you know nothing about this movie. I'm not gonna really explain all the technology behind it here. Im just gonna say that its something that is revolutionary and has to be seen in 3D, because it will change the way these kinds are movies are made from now on.

Apprently there's a battle sequence at the end of the film that is just mind-blowing and immersive. Because of the 3D technology you even feel like you are inside the battle. You lose all that by watching it at home.

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#136 Shiggums
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I guess I don't know anything about it :roll: 3D is not something I go 'nanners over either

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I still have very little interest in watching the film, I might see it just if my friends invite me to go but I rather stay home and watch the films I just rented from the library....
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#138 biggest_loser
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How long is this movie? Kikouken
160 minutes. Yes really.
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#139 Samurai_Xavier
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I guess I don't know anything about it :roll: 3D is not something I go 'nanners over either

Shiggums

Yeah, I hate 3D too. I've only seen one movie in 3D in my life and that was like 6 years ago. It sucked.

But this movie is changing that because it actually was made using 3D technology.

Whatever though, its your money and I cant force you to go see a movie. I can only recommend you to.

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#140 Shiggums
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[QUOTE="Shiggums"]

I guess I don't know anything about it :roll: 3D is not something I go 'nanners over either

Samurai_Xavier

Yeah, I hate 3D too. I've only seen one movie in 3D in my life and that was like 6 years ago. It sucked.

But this movie is changing that because it actually was made using 3D technology.

Whatever though, its your money and I cant force you to go see a movie. I can only recommend you to.

Well, I appreciate the recommendation. Who knows? Maybe I will see it in theaters, anything could happen :o

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#141 Baranga
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How so? Because the screen is smaller and the sound is less loud?

To me, I'd rather watch a movie at home where the seats are comfortable and the floors are clean than in a theater which is the opposite.

Shiggums

When a movie packs so much detail in a frame, you should see it in a theatre. 3D will be the norm for TVs and monitors in about a decade, but screen size is an obvious advantage of the cinemas.

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#142 magnax1
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looks stupid to me. I don't want to watch blue monkeys get blown up. And I hate the Lord of the Rings.

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#143 MasterC5
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I can't believe dances with wovles in outer space is doing so well.

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I can't believe dances with wovles in outer space is doing so well.

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#145 Samurai_Xavier
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I can't believe dances with wovles in outer space is doing so well.

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Probably has something to do with the fact that they've SEEN the movie (and you haven't).

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[QUOTE="ithilgore2006"][QUOTE="F1_2004"][QUOTE="ithilgore2006"] Uh, yes, they would. That's their job. There were 3000 people at the Avatar premiere in London, where many of these critics, websites and blogs saw the film and that's what they're reviewing from. How exactly do you "screen" 3000 people to give great reviews?

Well quite easily. Invitations don't make themselves, someone does go through the list and invite professional reviewers and it's not too hard to look at their history and filter out the ones that give poor reviews.

And how exactly does that stop the critics they left out giving the movie bad reviews? Kinda seems a bit pointless, don't you think

Oh come on now, do I really need to spell it out for you? The more positive reviews they get pre-release, the more hype they build up and more viewers they get on opening day/week. It's basically better than free advertising. To the other guy, I don't really see how they could invite every single critic in the world. That would be quite the feat. Various movies get a different number of pre-release reviews, I don't think it's a worldwide invitation, but I could be wrong. Not that I'm suggesting Avatar is a huge flop and all these reviewers are getting paid off, but just speculating on early reviews. There's a bit of that happening in videogame reviews too.
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#147 thusaha
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Sounds great.
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#148 Wolls
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Hmm thing is i dont want to travel to see it in iMax :(

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Avatar is my most anticipated movie ever, not trying to sound like a fanboy, but I never really put much attention hype movies. Avatar is different though.

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#150 Dogswithguns
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Im going to see it with my g/f, but it's not out yet til Friday Dec 18th..... it's already out in your town?