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#201 Allicrombie
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[QUOTE="rragnaar"]At first I thought this was about our new policy of publicly spanking users before we ban them, and I was wondering how the news leaked out. S***! I've said too much.Zyrokin

Sounds like a reward rather than a punishment. Just saying.

only if I get to do it.
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#202 EntropyWins
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Oh good, I was just thinking that the government was not interfering enough in our lives too.

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#203 hippiesanta
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you know who needs a big ass spanking Bam, from Viva la Bam. Phil and April failed big time with him.

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this is exception.... he need to be spank, in australia, bad kids, parents go to jail
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#204 harashawn
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Only bad parents need to spank their child.

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I have to disagree. My parents did a wonderful job raising me.
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#205 Bladecutter56
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Noo. In fact, they need to allow teachers to spank a misbehaving student.

And, when they're older, allow them to punch the bratty teen causing fights directly in the face. Kids around here, they start fights but there is never any actual fighting. Just two idiots inside a circle of idiots throwing insults at each other while the crowd chants 'Fight' like a mantra. I've got a theory that, if it were a real possibility their hair would get ruined (or their face broken), because that is the clear and obvious source of their hesitation, they won't start anything.

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#206 OreoMilkshake
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I also think they need to bring spanking in school back. Alot of kids have no respect for teachers anymore detention? hhaha supsension yea no school. But the pain and embarassment of getting a paddle is real. I knew a kid in school that had detention every day it was actually a goal of his to see how many he could get . Finally the school sent a permission form home to spank him and his parents signed it. After that he stopped getting the detentions.AutoPilotOn
But teachers do spank their kids. There's videos all over the web!
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#207 WhiteKnight77
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[QUOTE="AutoPilotOn"]I also think they need to bring spanking in school back. Alot of kids have no respect for teachers anymore detention? hhaha supsension yea no school. But the pain and embarassment of getting a paddle is real. I knew a kid in school that had detention every day it was actually a goal of his to see how many he could get . Finally the school sent a permission form home to spank him and his parents signed it. After that he stopped getting the detentions.OreoMilkshake
But teachers do spank their kids. There's videos all over the web!

There used to be a time when the principle was allowed to use corporal punishment and what was worse, if you got your but spanked at school, you could expect it when you got home. Sure, there were those who always seemed to get into trouble, but they were few and far between.

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#208 deactivated-5cacc9e03b460
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[QUOTE="MgamerBD"]Kids these days need a spanking/whipping. I have gotten some when I was a kid with a belt. It puts fear in you, makes you realize that there are consquences. It is necessary. When the kid grows up he/she will realize and be thankful for it. I am and happy my parents chose to do it to me. I will also do it for my kids. I'm sure the ones in OT that is against have never been spanked in their life. So I believe they should be quiet. They can only give a third person's perspective. I wish them good luck with their bad kids.acsam12304

im thankful my parents spanked me, i my self and my brothers got the belt, but it wasn't because my mom or dad did it for abuse. all the time i got spanked or get whipped by a belt ( in my ass) is because i knew i did something wrong. i knew i never got whipped or spanked just for the heck of it.but like is aid im thankful because they made me the good person i am today not the best but to have manners and respect.

i never once took drugs, gotten high, smoke, or gotten drunk.

they way my mom and dad said to be when i got around my Jr high years and teen years is this.

if i even join a gang, gotten high, or drunk. they will call the cops to take me away. well it worked never done any of it nor do i care about those kinds of things. why did it work? cause i never want to lose my home i dont want to go to child detention center and lose a lot of my life or anything like that.

Exactly. I feel the same way.


Another punishment of my parents was to write a couple hundred even thousand times on paper. And I hated it, I would have taken a spanking over having to write any day of the week.

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#209 mohfrontline
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I think there is a problem with discipline now. I'm only 18 but I see it in younger children. It's like the parents are afraid to be stern or strict because it's almost politically incorrect to be like that now. Spanking kids should not be banned. This is a free country you are supposed to have rights.
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#210 mywalletsgone
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Ban spanking make condoms cheaper! =P

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#211 comp_atkins
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if they ban spanking i'll just have to mentally abuse my kids then...
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#212 jun_aka_pekto
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Parenting is hard work. I'm glad I'm down to one 3-yr old left. The eldest one is old enough to where I don't have to discipline her too much. The only time I get ticked off most of the time is whenever she have a million browser windows open and hogged all the internet bandwidth to the point my PC can't get in. A reminder of 3 browser windows max and the threat of banishing her computers from the router usually straightens her out.

I only use spanking during a certain age. As soon as the kids understand and learn, spanking stops although the threat to use it is still there just in case. As they get older, even the threat of spanking stops. At that point, I already know the things my kids value the most and I'll use that to my advantage. That's when I switch gears and start using alternative means of discipline such as the example of my eldest daughter and her internet abuse above. Otherwise, I don't really have problems with my eldest kid anymore aside from the occasional, "Don't leave your stuff lying around or else the youngest one will make a mess of them".

Seriously though, I don't think the government needs to get involved with how I raise my kids.

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#213 KungfuKitten
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Why wouldn't you just give your children to the government? I mean, why even call it your own child if you are going to nationally decide how children should be raised, what they should see, know, hear, say, etc.

Now i'm not pro (non-erotic) spanking, but if they want to go through with this, then offer an alternative to make a child (who are often irrational) behave.

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#214 With-Hatred
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Wow, this is one of the few times I would say that the apathetic people are more intelligent than the majority. This is nothing new, spanking causes increased social and psychological problems in people, they are more likely to end up in jail, get bad grades, attack others physically, the list just goes on and on, maybe people should use their brains and read up on the subject before demonstrating general stupidity. At least I can take some solace in knowing my kids will do better in life than those kids that are beaten.

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#215 aransom
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This is nothing new, spanking causes increased social and psychological problems in people, they are more likely to end up in jail, get bad grades, attack others physically, the list just goes on and on,

With-Hatred

Yeah, all those problems were so much worse 100 years ago, when every parent spanked their kids.

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#216 With-Hatred
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[QUOTE="With-Hatred"]This is nothing new, spanking causes increased social and psychological problems in people, they are more likely to end up in jail, get bad grades, attack others physically, the list just goes on and on,

aransom

Yeah, all those problems were so much worse 100 years ago, when every parent spanked their kids.

yep, if u would actually bother to look into it, crime rates, drug use, were higher and graduation rates were much lower. But why does that even matter? They lived in a completely different time and culture than us, just look at the hard data today, and use some sense. Beating children teaches them to just solve their problems with physical violence, that problems are black and white and don't need to be approached with abstract thought. Look at the percentage of criminals in prison who suffer from anti-social personality disorder, guess what a primary cause of it is?

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#217 yentlequible
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Nope, every child deserves a good spank.
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#218 Ballroompirate
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I was spanked as a kid as a means of discipline and I plan to do the same when I have kids.

CHOASXIII

Amen!!

Next thing you know people are gonna try and ban time out for kids...

My best friends GF has a 4 year old boy and he cries like for hours, she tries the whole let them cry themselfs to sleep or tell they get tired.....yea hasn't been working at all.

You need to teach kids on whats right and whats wrong, nothing like a good old time out,grounding or a spanking will get through to them cause it teaches them hey i do this i'm gonna get "disclipined" and it will teach them how to respect people.

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#219 gatorteen
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Wow, this is one of the few times I would say that the apathetic people are more intelligent than the majority. This is nothing new, spanking causes increased social and psychological problems in people, they are more likely to end up in jail, get bad grades, attack others physically, the list just goes on and on, maybe people should use their brains and read up on the subject before demonstrating general stupidity. At least I can take some solace in knowing my kids will do better in life than those kids that are beaten.

With-Hatred

Sometimes we get caught up in statistics way too much. Most of these stats on spanking includes situations of abuse. When you group the good parents that spank their kids with the bad parents who abuse their kids, the stats are going to be skewed. There is no accurate way to gauge how effectitve spanking is in situations where to parent takes the proper approach towards spanking.

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#220 Pixel-Pirate
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Not really enforcable.

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#221 harashawn
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Wow, this is one of the few times I would say that the apathetic people are more intelligent than the majority. This is nothing new, spanking causes increased social and psychological problems in people, they are more likely to end up in jail, get bad grades, attack others physically, the list just goes on and on, maybe people should use their brains and read up on the subject before demonstrating general stupidity. At least I can take some solace in knowing my kids will do better in life than those kids that are beaten.

With-Hatred
I'm glad my parents spanked me. Kids need to be disciplined or they will just walk all over their parents; I've seen this many times. It is not possible to sit down and have a mature conversation about "why you shouldn't do this" with a screaming child. And there is a HUGE difference between a little smack on the bottom when they misbehave and beating your child.
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#222 Bloodseeker23
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Spanking? wussies! Bring back the belt and them fists. Thats what Pops did, and it worked for me.
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#223 gameguy6700
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[QUOTE="aransom"]

[QUOTE="With-Hatred"]This is nothing new, spanking causes increased social and psychological problems in people, they are more likely to end up in jail, get bad grades, attack others physically, the list just goes on and on,

With-Hatred

Yeah, all those problems were so much worse 100 years ago, when every parent spanked their kids.

yep, if u would actually bother to look into it, crime rates, drug use, were higher and graduation rates were much lower. But why does that even matter? They lived in a completely different time and culture than us, just look at the hard data today, and use some sense. Beating children teaches them to just solve their problems with physical violence, that problems are black and white and don't need to be approached with abstract thought. Look at the percentage of criminals in prison who suffer from anti-social personality disorder, guess what a primary cause of it is?

Not just that, but there's a reason why spanking is THE most common practice in BDSM by far. Not only that, but I've yet to meet a single masochist/sadist who wasn't spanked as a kid. Now obviously most people who get spanked don't become sadomasochists, but it still stands almost all sadomasochists had physical punishments used on them as children whereas a large portion of the general population never had physical punishment used on them as children.
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#224 acsam12304
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Wow, this is one of the few times I would say that the apathetic people are more intelligent than the majority. This is nothing new, spanking causes increased social and psychological problems in people, they are more likely to end up in jail, get bad grades, attack others physically, the list just goes on and on, maybe people should use their brains and read up on the subject before demonstrating general stupidity. At least I can take some solace in knowing my kids will do better in life than those kids that are beaten.

With-Hatred

beating a kid and spanking a kid is two very different things, sorry

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#225 acsam12304
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Spanking? wussies! Bring back the belt and them fists. Thats what Pops did, and it worked for me.Bloodseeker23

i got whiped by a belt, and it worked.

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#226 gameguy6700
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[QUOTE="With-Hatred"]

Wow, this is one of the few times I would say that the apathetic people are more intelligent than the majority. This is nothing new, spanking causes increased social and psychological problems in people, they are more likely to end up in jail, get bad grades, attack others physically, the list just goes on and on, maybe people should use their brains and read up on the subject before demonstrating general stupidity. At least I can take some solace in knowing my kids will do better in life than those kids that are beaten.

harashawn
I'm glad my parents spanked me. Kids need to be disciplined or they will just walk all over their parents; I've seen this many times. It is not possible to sit down and have a mature conversation about "why you shouldn't do this" with a screaming child. And there is a HUGE difference between a little smack on the bottom when they misbehave and beating your child.

Coming from a guy who's studied a lot about behavioral conditioning during the course of his neuroscience education, the force with which you punish a child actually doesn't matter nearly as much as people think it does. What really matters is the consistency of punishment. If you let your kid off a lot without punishment then the child is going to (correctly) assume that there's a fair chance they won't get punished when they act up, and that they can push their boundaries fairly effectively. It doesn't matter if you beat then until they're covered in blood when you actually do punish them, if you don't do it consistently they'll still act up. In contrast, if you always punish the child when they misbehave then they'll quickly learn not to act up because doing so will definitely get them punished. Doesn't matter if you use a mild punishment, as long as it's still aversive the kid will get the point. The reason you see a lot of kids acting up today isn't because parents don't spank (most still do actually), it's because parents prefer to not punish their children at all beyond a "hey guys, don't do that. What have I told you about doing that? Come on guys...".
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#227 XileLord
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Spankings should be allowed but severely beating your kid should not.

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#228 kussese
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I read somewhere that on average, people who were spanked as kids have IQs 5 points lower than those who weren't. Then again, I learned my lesson from the shiny wooden paddle on more than one occasion and I feel like I turned out alright.

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#229 chessmaster1989
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Good, spanking should be banned.
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#230 With-Hatred
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[QUOTE="With-Hatred"]

Wow, this is one of the few times I would say that the apathetic people are more intelligent than the majority. This is nothing new, spanking causes increased social and psychological problems in people, they are more likely to end up in jail, get bad grades, attack others physically, the list just goes on and on, maybe people should use their brains and read up on the subject before demonstrating general stupidity. At least I can take some solace in knowing my kids will do better in life than those kids that are beaten.

acsam12304

beating a kid and spanking a kid is two very different things, sorry

actually they have similar results, a major one being that kids that are spanked are more likely to end up with odd sexual kinks, sorry.

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#231 With-Hatred
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[QUOTE="Bloodseeker23"]Spanking? wussies! Bring back the belt and them fists. Thats what Pops did, and it worked for me.acsam12304

i got whiped by a belt, and it worked.

Ur parents have poor parenting skills, U probably will too as a result. realities...

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#232 With-Hatred
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[QUOTE="With-Hatred"]

Wow, this is one of the few times I would say that the apathetic people are more intelligent than the majority. This is nothing new, spanking causes increased social and psychological problems in people, they are more likely to end up in jail, get bad grades, attack others physically, the list just goes on and on, maybe people should use their brains and read up on the subject before demonstrating general stupidity. At least I can take some solace in knowing my kids will do better in life than those kids that are beaten.

harashawn

I'm glad my parents spanked me. Kids need to be disciplined or they will just walk all over their parents; I've seen this many times. It is not possible to sit down and have a mature conversation about "why you shouldn't do this" with a screaming child. And there is a HUGE difference between a little smack on the bottom when they misbehave and beating your child.

studies have repeatedly shown that spanking doesn't change behavior, and that kids will still act out, most parents are just poorly misinformed on this issue :(

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#233 With-Hatred
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[QUOTE="With-Hatred"]

Wow, this is one of the few times I would say that the apathetic people are more intelligent than the majority. This is nothing new, spanking causes increased social and psychological problems in people, they are more likely to end up in jail, get bad grades, attack others physically, the list just goes on and on, maybe people should use their brains and read up on the subject before demonstrating general stupidity. At least I can take some solace in knowing my kids will do better in life than those kids that are beaten.

gatorteen

Sometimes we get caught up in statistics way too much. Most of these stats on spanking includes situations of abuse. When you group the good parents that spank their kids with the bad parents who abuse their kids, the stats are going to be skewed. There is no accurate way to gauge how effectitve spanking is in situations where to parent takes the proper approach towards spanking.

Spanking is bad in all cases, just look at reports on how it affects people psychologically.

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#234 harashawn
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[QUOTE="With-Hatred"]

[QUOTE="gatorteen"]

[QUOTE="With-Hatred"]

Wow, this is one of the few times I would say that the apathetic people are more intelligent than the majority. This is nothing new, spanking causes increased social and psychological problems in people, they are more likely to end up in jail, get bad grades, attack others physically, the list just goes on and on, maybe people should use their brains and read up on the subject before demonstrating general stupidity. At least I can take some solace in knowing my kids will do better in life than those kids that are beaten.

Sometimes we get caught up in statistics way too much. Most of these stats on spanking includes situations of abuse. When you group the good parents that spank their kids with the bad parents who abuse their kids, the stats are going to be skewed. There is no accurate way to gauge how effectitve spanking is in situations where to parent takes the proper approach towards spanking.

Spanking is bad in all cases, just look at reports on how it affects people psychologically.

Just look at people who were spanked as kids, and you'll see the vast majority of them are fine.
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#235 MoetWitMedusa
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parents who beat there kids will have to suffer the beat right back once the kid is bigger and stronger than them. if i was ever beat as a kid i would have fought there asses back.the best way to punish a kid is to take all there **** away and dont let them get rpividleges.

verbal punishment is way worse than phyiscal. cause the kid ahs to think about what hes done.

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#236 MoetWitMedusa
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my friends would get beat all the time. guees what happens once they odler. they leave there parents and tell em to **** off.

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#237 Palantas
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[QUOTE="With-Hatred"]

Spanking is bad in all cases, just look at reports on how it affects people psychologically.

harashawn

Just look at people who were spanked as kids, and you'll see the vast majority of them are fine.

No they're not! I was spanked as a kid, and here I am today, posting on the Internet that I don't disagree with spanking. Clearly my childhood trauma has prevented me from embracing the progressive cause of letting kids get away with crap.

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#238 RK-Mara
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Do parents still spank their children?
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#239 wiifan001
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Necessary force? Spanking is a form of discipline. A form that, when handled responsibly, is more effective than any pill that's going to chemically alter you freekin head. I am in all favor of spanking, provided, taken care of properly
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#240 SickBoy724
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Spanking a child a bad thing? No. I got spanked when I was misbehaving, because I understood that being grounded, or yelled at didn't stop me from doing stupid things. Spankings did. Kids need them.

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#241 rockerbikie
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If they are acting brats I think they deserve.

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#242 SkyWard20
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Some members of Canada's senate are trying to get spanking your child bannned. The current law allows parents to use necessary disciplinary force, but this would not allow parents touse any force at all.
So this got me thinking, is it okay to spank your child when they misbehave? The way I see it, there's nothing wrong with it as long as the parent doesn't hit too hard. Too many parents these days are just too easy on their kids. I've seen kids screaming in public while the parent just stands there and watches them. :| The best way to make a child behave is to make them fear misbehaving, right? Sending your kid to their room is not a punishment, they'll justfind something to do there.

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Well, what do you want them to do if maybe they don't want to hit their children?

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#243 SkyWard20
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That said, if you think 'spanking' solves anything *chuckles*, then you people are deluded.

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#244 Niner0
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Spanking is horribly useless. It is more likely to create resentment than obedience, and even if it does induce some obedience, it's obedience out of fear and not out of respect. Fear leads to hate.

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#245 With-Hatred
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Necessary force? Spanking is a form of discipline. A form that, when handled responsibly, is more effective than any pill that's going to chemically alter you freekin head. I am in all favor of spanking, provided, taken care of properlywiifan001
lulz, people form so many opinions without looking at the facts. Maybe the world would be better if people did some research into things before forming "wrong" opinions.

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#246 Famiking
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I used to be against spanking, but then my baby sister turned 4 years old. Spanking is veeeeeeryyyyyyyy underrated. You just have to make them realize their mistake too.
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#247 xTheExploited
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only to ugly kids. im all for spanking hot kids.
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#248 mattbbpl
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I've had to spank my son on occasion. It doesn't even have to be hard (We actually do it rather softly and over the pants\diaper he's wearing) - he knows that once that occurs he's officially pushed it too far.

If it's overused, it's probably less effective. I can't say for certain, because I've never been in that situation. But it's a very effective disciplinary action with my son, especially when used sparingly in conjunction with other measures.
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#249 dunl12496
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Anyone who believes the bible spanks children. Show them the rod. It says it in the bible.

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#250 dunl12496
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I've had to spank my son on occasion. It doesn't even have to be hard (We actually do it rather softly and over the pants\diaper he's wearing) - he knows that once that occurs he's officially pushed it too far.

If it's overused, it's probably less effective. I can't say for certain, because I've never been in that situation. But it's a very effective disciplinary action with my son, especially when used sparingly in conjunction with other measures. mattbbpl

I was a baddd kid, it got to the point where they didn't hurt anymore.