Bands you don't get the appeal of?

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#351 UbiquitousAeon
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[QUOTE="UbiquitousAeon"]

Yes, that was very much in the discussion. In fact, that was the basis of my entire argument. It's you who had a hard time figuring it out something very, very simple. I'm done though. There's no point in talking to you, I'll be sure to remember this in the future. You give me a headache.

LJS9502_basic

No. The discussion on my end was not about different structures. I said all songs had structure. Period. You can read over my posts. I have not deviated from that stance once. You did contradict yourself a few times regarding structure. *shrugs* The posts show that....

And I agreed with you that all songs had structure, I never once said that any of the songs mentioned in this discussion had no song structure. That's just what you put into my mouth. What I actually did say was that some song structures are more repetitive than others, then you went on with your nonsense and now were here, where you still think your high and mighty. LJS, you are the contradiction.
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#352 LJS9502_basic
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[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]

[QUOTE="UbiquitousAeon"]

Yes, that was very much in the discussion. In fact, that was the basis of my entire argument. It's you who had a hard time figuring it out something very, very simple. I'm done though. There's no point in talking to you, I'll be sure to remember this in the future. You give me a headache.

UbiquitousAeon

No. The discussion on my end was not about different structures. I said all songs had structure. Period. You can read over my posts. I have not deviated from that stance once. You did contradict yourself a few times regarding structure. *shrugs* The posts show that....

And I agreed with you that all songs had structure, I never once said that any of the songs mentioned in this discussion had no song structure. That's just what you put into my mouth. What I actually did say was that some song structures are more repetitive than others, then you went on with your nonsense and now were here, where you still think your high and mighty. LJS, you are the contradiction.

Nope. I reiterated what my argument was. You were apparently arguing with your own posts then.....
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#353 UbiquitousAeon
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[QUOTE="UbiquitousAeon"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"] No. The discussion on my end was not about different structures. I said all songs had structure. Period. You can read over my posts. I have not deviated from that stance once. You did contradict yourself a few times regarding structure. *shrugs* The posts show that....

LJS9502_basic

And I agreed with you that all songs had structure, I never once said that any of the songs mentioned in this discussion had no song structure. That's just what you put into my mouth. What I actually did say was that some song structures are more repetitive than others, then you went on with your nonsense and now were here, where you still think your high and mighty. LJS, you are the contradiction.

Nope. I reiterated what my argument was. You were apparently arguing with your own posts then.....

No, just no. Stop beating a dead horse, you lost the argument. Go home.

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#354 MistressMinako
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[QUOTE="MistressMinako"][QUOTE="chicknfeet"]Nothing wrong with liking them :P. I like N-Sync. To each their own LJS9502_basic
Haha... I was only joking.. the only song by them I thought was okay was Year 3000. N-Sync! I didn't think anyone liked them. :P

You liked a Jonas Brothers song?:o

Yeah, I guess so. :P Not enough to buy an album.... Babysitting all the time... I got used to the Disney Channel stuff. :P
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#355 LJS9502_basic
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[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="UbiquitousAeon"]And I agreed with you that all songs had structure, I never once said that any of the songs mentioned in this discussion had no song structure. That's just what you put into my mouth. What I actually did say was that some song structures are more repetitive than others, then you went on with your nonsense and now were here, where you still think your high and mighty. LJS, you are the contradiction. UbiquitousAeon

Nope. I reiterated what my argument was. You were apparently arguing with your own posts then.....

No, just no. Stop beating a dead horse, you lost the argument. Go home.

When you win an argument it's unnecessary to inform people. ...and since my only argument was that songs have structure...and you've now agreed with that...I don't see how you can say I lost anything...unless you are saying you lost as well.;)

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#357 LJS9502_basic
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Nope. Once you agreed with my posts.....you pretty much gave me the argument.
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#358 UbiquitousAeon
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Nope. Once you agreed with my posts.....you pretty much gave me the argument.LJS9502_basic
Well, considering you failed to see what my argument was, you never even made an attempt against my own. You were over there in lala land not hearing a thing I was saying. Everyone can see it.
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#359 Lethargika
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Nope. Once you agreed with my posts.....you pretty much gave me the argument.LJS9502_basic

WOW, can't believe I just read every post of your guys' argument for the last few pages. I thought for sure there would be at least some form of resolve at this point......I'm ******* exhausted.. lol

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#360 LJS9502_basic
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[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]Nope. Once you agreed with my posts.....you pretty much gave me the argument.UbiquitousAeon
Well, considering you failed to see what my argument was, you never even made an attempt against my own. You were over there in lala land not hearing a thing I was saying. Everyone can see it.

Your argument was against my post that songs have structure which does not mean they repetitive but structured. So let me ask you once and for all...do songs/music follow a structure...yes or no?
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#361 LJS9502_basic
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[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]Nope. Once you agreed with my posts.....you pretty much gave me the argument.Lethargika

WOW, can't believe I just read every post of your guys' argument for the last few pages. I thought for sure there would be at least some form of resolve at this point......I'm ******* exhausted.. lol

Have a cookie for quick energy. I'm awaiting his response which should end the discussion.:P
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#362 Lethargika
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[QUOTE="Lethargika"]

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]Nope. Once you agreed with my posts.....you pretty much gave me the argument.LJS9502_basic

WOW, can't believe I just read every post of your guys' argument for the last few pages. I thought for sure there would be at least some form of resolve at this point......I'm ******* exhausted.. lol

Have a cookie for quick energy. I'm awaiting his response which should end the discussion.:P

*snatches cookie* NOM NOM NOM.......k Im ready for another 20 rounds......:)

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#363 LJS9502_basic
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[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="Lethargika"]

WOW, can't believe I just read every post of your guys' argument for the last few pages. I thought for sure there would be at least some form of resolve at this point......I'm ******* exhausted.. lol

Lethargika

Have a cookie for quick energy. I'm awaiting his response which should end the discussion.:P

*snatches cookie* NOM NOM NOM.......k Im ready for another 20 rounds......:)

I have to be heading off to work.....enjoy though....
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[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]Nope. Once you agreed with my posts.....you pretty much gave me the argument.Lethargika

WOW, can't believe I just read every post of your guys' argument for the last few pages. I thought for sure there would be at least some form of resolve at this point......I'm ******* exhausted.. lol

I stopped posting for a reason.

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#365 tocklestein2005
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Anything I don't already listen to.

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#366 Lethargika
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[QUOTE="Lethargika"]

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]Nope. Once you agreed with my posts.....you pretty much gave me the argument.RobboElRobbo

WOW, can't believe I just read every post of your guys' argument for the last few pages. I thought for sure there would be at least some form of resolve at this point......I'm ******* exhausted.. lol

I stopped posting for a reason.

Well I guess there are people out there who find pleasure in beating dead horses.

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#367 UbiquitousAeon
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[QUOTE="Lethargika"]

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]Nope. Once you agreed with my posts.....you pretty much gave me the argument.LJS9502_basic

WOW, can't believe I just read every post of your guys' argument for the last few pages. I thought for sure there would be at least some form of resolve at this point......I'm ******* exhausted.. lol

Have a cookie for quick energy. I'm awaiting his response which should end the discussion.:P



You:


"The Cure is not repetitive.......and he posted a song by AA....which was repetitive. You might want to listen to how they do an intro to a song vs the way AA repeated themselves in theirs."

Me:

"Both The Cure and Amon Amarth are repetitive. Anyway, repetition isn't a bad thing if it works."

You:

"I think you are confusing melody with what that song he linkied did. Yes a melody will repeat but not with only a chord or two....which is what the linked song did.

Because when all is said and done if we consider the melody to be repetitive then all songs are repetitive. However, I wasn't talking about melody...and the repetition should not be constant even with that said. One of the worst offenders for repetition is AC/DC....all their songs are alike but even they don't repeat such a minor chord/progression continually in a short space of time."

Me:

"The Cure is far too strophic. Many of their songs are nothing but verse and chorus, repeated over and over. There's minor variations in the composition, but nothing that saves it from repetition. I used to listen to them a lot back in the day, they aren't a bad band, but yeah I'm going to have to call them out as repetitive."

You:

Then as I said....all songs are repetitive. However, the song linked was repetitive for almost the first minute....and then the change up was repeated.

Song structure...which you are talking about is in every song. It's even used in cIassical music. Structure will repeat....but that is not what I meant when I called that song repetitive. Did you listen to it?You think I didn't know this? A musician of 12 years?

Me:

Maybe all the songs you listen to, but not ALL songs are repetitive in the same way as others. There are many bands that use more sophisticated structure and lots of change throughout the songs. Here's a few examples:


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Now to end it once and for all.

Me:

"If there are 20 or so DIFFERENT sections in one song, versus 2 sections that repeat over and over in another song. Which one is less repetitive? It's that ****ing simple. That was my argument, yet you took it completely out of context and did nothing but provoke me this whole time."

Again, Compare it to:

"Maybe all the songs you listen to, but not ALL songs are repetitive in the same way as others. There are many bands that use more sophisticated structure and lots of change throughout the songs. Here's a few examples:"


So therefor YOU ARE WRONG!

The Cure is in fact much more repetetive than the songs I listed due to its overly conventional song structure.

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#368 LJS9502_basic
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So therefor YOU ARE WRONG!

UbiquitousAeon

You combined two arguments into one. The Cure is not a repetitive band. The AA song was very repetitive to me and I stand by that. However, the argument I had with you was YOUR use of the word repetitive for structure. All songs have structure. Which has been my argument with you since forever...not The Cure argument...not the AA argument. THE STRUCTURE argument.

Either we consider structure to make all songs repetitive OR we can't use structure as a means of calling a song repetitive. Because according to your argument all songs are repetitive. I have not said that either. Just the start of the linked song was repetitive. And to me...it was. You cannot win an argument over opinion....ever.

You copied all that for nothing.:lol:

You still are arguing two different things....

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#369 UbiquitousAeon
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I never changed my stance on the argument. Sorry dude, but I think that horse is liquefied from all the beating you're giving it.
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#370 LJS9502_basic
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Oh...and you avoided answering my question. Do songs have structure or not? Because that is and has been my stance since the beginning.
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#371 LJS9502_basic
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I never changed my stance on the argument. Sorry dude, but I think that horse is liquefied from all the beating you're giving it. UbiquitousAeon
Sure you did. You argued for and against structure.
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#372 UbiquitousAeon
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Oh...and you avoided answering my question. Do songs have structure or not? Because that is and has been my stance since the beginning.LJS9502_basic
What kind of dumb ass question is that? What do you think pal? I'm pretty sure I've already answered this for you.
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#375 UbiquitousAeon
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I've said what I wanted to, it's you who has been arguing out of context this whole time. I was never arguing against your point about song structure. My point from the very beginning was that some songs have a higher complexity in terms of structure than others. It's clearly written in my previous posts, I have no idea where you're getting your information from. But it sure as hell isn't helping your case. :lol:

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#376 UbiquitousAeon
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[QUOTE="UbiquitousAeon"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]Oh...and you avoided answering my question. Do songs have structure or not? Because that is and has been my stance since the beginning.imaps3fanboy
What kind of dumb ass question is that? What do you think pal? I'm pretty sure I've already answered this for you.

hes trolling you.. let it go

No this is fun, I'll go on forever if I have to. :)
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#377 LJS9502_basic
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I've said what I wanted to, it's you who has been arguing out of context this whole time. I was never arguing against your point about song structure. My point from the very beginning was that some songs have a higher complexity in terms of structure than others. It's clearly written in my previous posts, I have no idea where you're getting your information from. But it sure as hell isn't helping your case. :lol:

UbiquitousAeon
Then you've agreed with me from the start. Wonderful....off to work I go. PS...cherry picking posts out of sequence does not mean a thing.
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#378 Lethargika
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#379 UbiquitousAeon
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[QUOTE="UbiquitousAeon"]

I've said what I wanted to, it's you who has been arguing out of context this whole time. I was never arguing against your point about song structure. My point from the very beginning was that some songs have a higher complexity in terms of structure than others. It's clearly written in my previous posts, I have no idea where you're getting your information from. But it sure as hell isn't helping your case. :lol:

LJS9502_basic
Then you've agreed with me from the start. Wonderful....off to work I go. PS...cherry picking posts out of sequence does not mean a thing.

The Cure is repetitive as ****. Have a nice day sweetheart!
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#380 imaps3fanboy
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yea

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#381 UbiquitousAeon
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yea

imaps3fanboy

oh snap the printer turned into a horse.

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#382 Lethargika
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just for good measure

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#383 chessmaster1989
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[QUOTE="chessmaster1989"]

[QUOTE="RobboElRobbo"]

LJ, why do you never admit you're wrong? Your favorite band in the whole wide world is a ton more repetitive than Amon Amarth. The song I posted is in fact repetitive, but the majority of their songs aren't.

LJS9502_basic

Yes, this is very true... The Cure is a much more repetitive band than AA...

The Cure is not repetitive.......and he posted a song by AA....which was repetitive. You might want to listen to how they do an intro to a song vs the way AA repeated themselves in theirs.

I've listened to songs by The Cure before. Imo they're repetitive. Does AA have some level of reptitition as well? Yes, but I think they are a significantly more interesting and fun-to-listen-to band than The Cure.

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#384 UbiquitousAeon
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[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="chessmaster1989"]

Yes, this is very true... The Cure is a much more repetitive band than AA...

chessmaster1989

The Cure is not repetitive.......and he posted a song by AA....which was repetitive. You might want to listen to how they do an intro to a song vs the way AA repeated themselves in theirs.

I've listened to songs by The Cure before. Imo they're repetitive. Does AA have some level of reptitition as well? Yes, but I think they are a significantly more interesting and fun-to-listen-to band than The Cure.

Be careful man, were running out of dead horses.
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#385 haziqonfire
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I like Paramore... *looks around confused*

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Same. My vote is Nickelback, them being associated with Canada is embarrassing. We have better talent then them..
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#386 chessmaster1989
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[QUOTE="RobboElRobbo"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]A good argument does not rely on ad hominem attacks.

LJS9502_basic

Point out where this was a good argument. :|

Point out where I said it was.;)

Well, at least Robbo did a good job of arguing his point. ;)

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[QUOTE="Haziqonfire"][QUOTE="Oleg_Huzwog"]

I like Paramore... *looks around confused*

Same. My vote is Nickelback, them being associated with Canada is embarrassing. We have better talent then them..

Like Barenaked Ladies? :P
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#388 chessmaster1989
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I stopped posting for a reason.

RobboElRobbo

You's beens trolled son. :P

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#389 wildjango64
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Foo Fighters

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#390 DEVILinIRON
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[QUOTE="DEVILinIRON"]

[QUOTE="JonnyEagle"] In what way?

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It makes no sense to call the Beatles crap. I challenge anyone to listen to this song and tell me it doesn't sound like something that could be out right now. It sounds like a Chemical Brother's song or something. The Beatles laid the groundwork for some stuff I'm sure you appreciate.

When did anyone in this thread call The Beatles crap? :?

By calling them "incredibly simple", the implication is that they are crap? Also I was drunk when I posted that.
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[QUOTE="Haziqonfire"][QUOTE="Oleg_Huzwog"]

I like Paramore... *looks around confused*

Engrish_Major

Same. My vote is Nickelback, them being associated with Canada is embarrassing. We have better talent then them..

Like Barenaked Ladies? :P

Like Rush, The Band (all but one member), Guess Who, Bachman Turner Overdrive, Red Rider, and Steppenwolf I'm not Canadian by the Way. I'm from the U.S.

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#392 cyberdarkkid
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**** just gotreal in this thread.

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#393 KHAndAnime
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Amon Amarth and The Cure both suck. /thread
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#394 NiteLights
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I can't see what's so great about Paramore.
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#395 meteo_ryte
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I like Paramore. Maybe it's cuz the singer chick is hot.

Never liked Dave Matthews Band. Annoying.

Ke$ha needs to go away, someplace far far away, like someplace where she ceases to live and her "music" never exists.

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#396 immortality20
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Nickelback, most scream-o and Justin Bieber.

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#397 UbiquitousAeon
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I like Paramore. Maybe it's cuz the singer chick is hot.

Never liked Dave Matthews Band. Annoying.

Ke$ha needs to go away, someplace far far away, like someplace where she ceases to live and her "music" never exists.

meteo_ryte
Ke$ha is welcome to stay in my pants at any time.
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#398 JonnyEagle
Member since 2009 • 1196 Posts

I like Paramore. Maybe it's cuz the singer chick is hot.

Never liked Dave Matthews Band. Annoying.

Ke$ha needs to go away, someplace far far away, like someplace where she ceases to live and her "music" never exists.

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Speaking of Paramore, anybody see that topless photo of that singer chick?
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#399 warcraftfan234
Member since 2005 • 1476 Posts
[QUOTE="meteo_ryte"]

I like Paramore. Maybe it's cuz the singer chick is hot.

Never liked Dave Matthews Band. Annoying.

Ke$ha needs to go away, someplace far far away, like someplace where she ceases to live and her "music" never exists.

JonnyEagle
Speaking of Paramore, anybody see that topless photo of that singer chick?

I have, Borat would approve. Honestly, I would have to say Flyleaf. Flyleaf is GARBAGE.
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#400 MM555
Member since 2006 • 1539 Posts
Mainstream Hip-Hop is pretty ehhh (people like Flo Rida and Soulja Boy are jokes)...but if you listen to mixtapes by mainstream artists (i.e. Da Drought 3 or No Ceilings by Lil Wayne) or lesser known artists like Atmosphere, Immortal Technique, and Tech Nine you can see how good rap can really be. I used to really hate metal but as my friends introduced to me I started to like it alot.