Boston Mayor tells **** chick fil a to stay away

There was a time when people made fun of Christian organizations that boycotted various businesses for various reasons (a popular boycott being against Disney). However, it seems the roles have switched and the businesses with Christian ideals are the ones being boycotted. Thankfully I hold to the Christian ideal side of things and can still eat my chicken sandwiches. Nomnomnom.mindstorm

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[QUOTE="Nonstop-Madness"]Im not against gay marriage and Im from the Boston area yet I think things like this are stupid. I personally don't give a **** whether or not Chick -fil-a's owners don't believe in gay marriage. Its not going to make me not want to buy some Chick-fil-a. HoolaHoopMan

My reasons for boycotting Chick-Fil-A (somthing I've done for years now, and not just since this week) have nothhing to do with the owner's opinions and everything to do with how the company profit is spent. Chick-Fil-A funds groups (and to the tune of several million a year) groups that actively work against gay rights. The owners of the company can hold whatever opinion they wish, I don't need to be in agreement with a company's ownership in order to patronize that business (hence my love of Oberweis ice cream), but I don't want my dollar being used to fund causes that I find morally repugnant.

I know for one they've given Focus on the Family (a group which actively workes against gay rights) an average of $2,000,000/year for several years. They also help fund the related Family Research Council (listed as a hate group by the Souther Poverty Law center, for whatever that might be worth to you) as well as several other groups that work to block gay rights.

As for the Mayor's statement: it's irrelevant really. The chances of Chick-Fil-A opening up in Boston are slim to begin with. Chick-Fil-A have two locations in Massachusetts, both in towns much more conservative than Boston. They tend to not open up shop in more liberal areas. Indeed the vast bulk of their business is in the southern states. Finding a Chick-Fil-A outside of the South is a relative rarity.

I dont agree with the Chick-fil-A guy's stance on gay marriage. However, as long as he doesnt have his franchise discriminate against gay people - not serving them, etc. - then he is free to express his opinion under the first ammendment. Likewise, this mayor can express his dislike of the company but he cant pass legislation preventing them from opening stores in Boston. Otherwise, that would be violating that guy's first ammendment rights.

I dont agree with the Chick-fil-A guy's stance on gay marriage. However, as long as he doesnt have his franchise discriminate against gay people - not serving them, etc. - then he is free to express his opinion under the first ammendment. Likewise, this mayor can express his dislike of the company but he cant pass legislation preventing them from opening stores in Boston. Otherwise, that would be violating that guy's first ammendment rights.

sonicare

A city can pass regulations that prevent certain business from opening up in their town. Several have blocked Wal-Mart (however in those cases the regulations passed typically deal with building size and so on, and are aimed at keeping "big box" stores out to preserve local business).

I really could care less if gay people want to marry, however I don't think a mayor alone should make the decision for everyone of whether or not a company can be allowed to serve it's customers in their area.

SpartanMSU

Obviously Unemployment must be non-existent in Boston.....well done Mr Mayor....Omni-Slash

The mayor himself can't do anything to keep the company out, and the likelihood of Chick-Fil-A opening up in Boston is slim-to-none to begin with.

The mayor himself can't do anything to keep the company out, and the likelihood of Chick-Fil-A opening up in Boston is slim-to-none to begin with.

worlock77

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br0kenrabbit

Agree 100%. I alawys thought you were atheist

here is what I dont understand. Who got the idea out of billions of people on the planet to sit down and ask this one guy this one question and put it on tape and show it to people?

really?

1. he is a bottom of the food chain restaurant owner and really shouldnt be interviewed in the first place unless its to ask how many trash cans he has seen with his sauce in it with the container not opened.

2. after passing the first ridiculous phase of deciding to interview him instead of some random guy off the street in the first place why in the love of god would they ask a question that is totally unrelated to his crappy uncreative food product?

SEANMCAD

A religious publication interviewed a religious person who runs a business that is well known to be operated according to that person and his family's religious principals?

*cue f*cking shock*

Good for Chick-fil-a for standing for what is right. maheo30

Good for Chick-fil-a for standing for what is right. If the mayor wants to be an irrational boob then let him. maheo30

I'm guessing if the mayor of a city told a business that supports gay rights to stay out of his town you'd be applauding that person right now.

Good for Chick-fil-a for standing for what is right. If the mayor wants to be an irrational boob then let him. maheo30

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[QUOTE="SEANMCAD"]

here is what I dont understand. Who got the idea out of billions of people on the planet to sit down and ask this one guy this one question and put it on tape and show it to people?

really?

1. he is a bottom of the food chain restaurant owner and really shouldnt be interviewed in the first place unless its to ask how many trash cans he has seen with his sauce in it with the container not opened.

2. after passing the first ridiculous phase of deciding to interview him instead of some random guy off the street in the first place why in the love of god would they ask a question that is totally unrelated to his crappy uncreative food product?

SEANMCAD

A religious publication interviewed a religious person who runs a business that is well known to be operated according to that person and his family's religious principals?

*cue f*cking shock*

1. Why did something a religious publication publish ever reach the mainstream news in the first place? Why do I even know about this event?

2. How exactly does he plan to run his business based on this specific belief exactly? was that question ever asked?

3. Who the f8ck cares. its f8cking nuggets for christ sake. I wouldnt eat his sh*t regardless of where it is unless my life depend on it. he should crawl back into whatever resturant hole he crawled out of.

that is how I see it anyway

It made mainstream news because the Jim Henson Company (which had provided toys for Chick-Fil-A's kids meals) decided to sever their business relationship because of Chick-Fil-A's COO's comment in that Baptist Press article.

If you don't care then why are you even bothering to post in here?

Good for Chick-fil-a for standing for what is right. If the mayor wants to be an irrational boob then let him. maheo30

You and Chick-fil-a are irrational.

is it almost election time? is this mayor rerunning for election? I gotta know before I root for this guy. Politicans only say what the people wanna hear when they want something.

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[QUOTE="SEANMCAD"]

1. Why did something a religious publication publish ever reach the mainstream news in the first place? Why do I even know about this event?

2. How exactly does he plan to run his business based on this specific belief exactly? was that question ever asked?

3. Who the f8ck cares. its f8cking nuggets for christ sake. I wouldnt eat his sh*t regardless of where it is unless my life depend on it. he should crawl back into whatever resturant hole he crawled out of.

that is how I see it anyway

SEANMCAD

It made mainstream news because the Jim Henson Company (which had provided toys for Chick-Fil-A's kids meals) decided to sever their business relationship because of Chick-Fil-A's COO's comment in that Baptist Press article.

If you don't care then why are you even bothering to post in here?

you are not being honest. You know and so does everyone else that what hit mainstream first was his statement, muppets response came after.

Why do you want to be dishonest about this?

I do care. I dont care about his opinion I DO care that it got national press time. Does that help you understand?

I hadn't heard sh*t about his comments until after the Jim Henson Company acted. Can you provide a specific timeline that tells me otherwise?

Why do you care? What about this bothers you so much?

[QUOTE="maheo30"]Good for Chick-fil-a for standing for what is right. If the mayor wants to be an irrational boob then let him. Teenaged

You and Chick-fil-a are irrational.

I'm guessing if the mayor of a city told a business that supports gay rights to stay out of his town you'd be applauding that person right now.worlock77

[QUOTE="Teenaged"]

[QUOTE="maheo30"]Good for Chick-fil-a for standing for what is right. If the mayor wants to be an irrational boob then let him. mindstorm

You and Chick-fil-a are irrational.

[QUOTE="mindstorm"][QUOTE="Teenaged"]No, maheo30.

You and Chick-fil-a are irrational.

Teenaged

[QUOTE="worlock77"]

[QUOTE="SEANMCAD"]

you are not being honest. You know and so does everyone else that what hit mainstream first was his statement, muppets response came after.

Why do you want to be dishonest about this?

I do care. I dont care about his opinion I DO care that it got national press time. Does that help you understand?

SEANMCAD

I hadn't heard sh*t about his comments until after the Jim Henson Company acted. Can you provide a specific timeline that tells me otherwise?

Why do you care? What about this bothers you so much?

I dont care about his comments I care about media time spent on the subject.

Why do I care? because there are things a f8ck ton more important for the nation to know about then what Mr. Nugget thinks. everytime the media talks about an unimportant topic its time away from more important things the public should know about. That is why I care. Does that seem like an unreasonable position to you?

I will have to research it but as I recall it was bam..then bam...with his comment being first.

Or is this particular issue a special case?

[QUOTE="worlock77"]I'm guessing if the mayor of a city told a business that supports gay rights to stay out of his town you'd be applauding that person right now.mindstorm

That question wasn't addressed at you, but you've always struck me as one of less fanatical die-hard Christians in here.

In this case I think it goes beyone mere difference of opinion, and has to do with Chick-Fil-A's funding of groups that are actively trying to oppress gay rights.

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[QUOTE="mindstorm"] Then I too am irrational as I also support Chick-fil-a in this.mindstorm

[QUOTE="worlock77"]

[QUOTE="SEANMCAD"]

you are not being honest. You know and so does everyone else that what hit mainstream first was his statement, muppets response came after.

Why do you want to be dishonest about this?

I do care. I dont care about his opinion I DO care that it got national press time. Does that help you understand?

SEANMCAD

I hadn't heard sh*t about his comments until after the Jim Henson Company acted. Can you provide a specific timeline that tells me otherwise?

Why do you care? What about this bothers you so much?

I dont care about his comments I care about media time spent on the subject.

Why do I care? because there are things a f8ck ton more important for the nation to know about then what Mr. Nugget thinks. everytime the media talks about an unimportant topic its time away from more important things the public should know about. That is why I care. Does that seem like an unreasonable position to you?

I will have to research it but as I recall it was bam..then bam...with his comment being first.

- So of all the trivial stories that get passed around in the mainstream media you're throwing a sh*tfit over this?

- Next time please be prepaired to back your sh*t up before accusing me of being dishonest. Maybe then I won't accuse you of being an idiot, but this time I will.

It's really strange to have a business openly discriminate against a group of people who would be potential customers.

Not only do you lose their business, you lose the business of everyone who supports them too.

We're I an owner or shareholder at Chic Fila, I'd be demanding the resignation of anyone at the company who was openly discriminating against potential customers.

Never mind the morality stuff - It's just bad business.

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[QUOTE="SEANMCAD"]

I dont care about his comments I care about media time spent on the subject.

Why do I care? because there are things a f8ck ton more important for the nation to know about then what Mr. Nugget thinks. everytime the media talks about an unimportant topic its time away from more important things the public should know about. That is why I care. Does that seem like an unreasonable position to you?

I will have to research it but as I recall it was bam..then bam...with his comment being first.

SEANMCAD

Or is this particular issue a special case?

when I have time yes I do.

This was is a little special only because I have seen people go nuts about eating there and in my mind (like I said before) its really a crappy product.

I dont care about his poltical or relgious belief. I shop at places that have the same perspective on things I do when it comes to the product in question so I cant blame people who doing more or less the same. That said, if the product is crap its crap regardless of how much you agree with the person.

Does that kinda sorta make sense?

I just think that every day there is a huge number of topics being discussed intensely that are not about unemployment or the country's dept or the death of multiple etc etc.

And yet, in my experience here in OT (which is limited, granted), people only whine that much when its something related to gay rights. I wont exclude the possibility of having a dose of a persecution complex myself but I'd like to think I havent reached the level some Christians have reached (see Maheo30).

[QUOTE="mindstorm"][QUOTE="worlock77"]I'm guessing if the mayor of a city told a business that supports gay rights to stay out of his town you'd be applauding that person right now.worlock77

That question wasn't addressed at you, but you've always struck me as one of less fanatical die-hard Christians in here.

In this case I think it goes beyone mere difference of opinion, and has to do with Chick-Fil-A's funding of groups that are actively trying to oppress gay rights.

It's really strange to have a business openly discriminate against a group of people who would be potential customers.

Not only do you lose their business, you lose the business of everyone who supports them too.

We're I an owner or shareholder at Chic Fila, I'd be demanding the resignation of anyone at the company who was openly discriminating against potential customers.

Never mind the morality stuff - It's just bad business.

Netherscourge

[QUOTE="mindstorm"][QUOTE="Teenaged"]Yes you are.

Teenaged

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[QUOTE="mindstorm"] D.A. Carson has written this, "Tolerance has its limits. The new tolerance (1) tends to insist that those who merely disagree with others, at least in several spheres, are intolerant, even if no coercive force is applied; (2) tends to make such tolerance the supreme good, independently of surrounding systems of thought; and (3) tends to be remarkably blind in regard to its own intolerant condemnation of everyone who disagrees with its own definition of tolerance." In other words, in the name of tolerance it seems people can become quite intolerant.mindstorm

And in the end when it comes to right and wrong, only sound arguments is what I look for. Not just the chance to give you the label of "tolerant" or "intolerant".

The only thing about ChickFila that I like is their Waffle Fries.

Their chicken meals are no better or worse than KFC's.

It's all just overblown hype.

[QUOTE="Netherscourge"]

It's really strange to have a business openly discriminate against a group of people who would be potential customers.

Not only do you lose their business, you lose the business of everyone who supports them too.

We're I an owner or shareholder at Chic Fila, I'd be demanding the resignation of anyone at the company who was openly discriminating against potential customers.

Never mind the morality stuff - It's just bad business.

Omni-Slash

[QUOTE="Teenaged"]

[QUOTE="SEANMCAD"]

when I have time yes I do.

This was is a little special only because I have seen people go nuts about eating there and in my mind (like I said before) its really a crappy product.

I dont care about his poltical or relgious belief. I shop at places that have the same perspective on things I do when it comes to the product in question so I cant blame people who doing more or less the same. That said, if the product is crap its crap regardless of how much you agree with the person.

Does that kinda sorta make sense?

SEANMCAD

I just think that every day there is a huge number of topics being discussed intensely that are not about unemployment or the country's dept or the death of multiple etc etc.

And yet, in my experience here in OT (which is limited, granted), people only whine that much when its something related to gay rights. I wont exclude the possibility of having a dose of a persecution complex myself but I'd like to think I havent reached the level some Christians have reached (see Maheo30).

I should be clear, I am not gay not married and think the institution of marriage itself is b8llsh8t. I dont, nor have I ever, had a view point on this subject. I am very progressive but on this subject I stay away. My 'beef' with this story is that were I live I see people going out of their way to eat at this sh8ting resturant aparently just because they like the owner.

Its f8king nuggets. 3 peiece or 5 for christ sake. It burns my a$$ when people go out of their way to reward someone in the business world who is making an inferior product but because of his belief system he is a success.

Anyway, as stated earlier, the company doesnt just have a stance. It also funds anti-gay groups/organisations. And people reasonably dont want their money to go there (or they do, in the case of those that support those anti-gay groups/organisations).

The issue is covered so much in general because the media in general I think, applaud pro-gay sentiments, unless its Fox news or something similar. You could say the media have a liberal bias. Maybe. And I like that (in social issues, not the whole "liberal" label which I'm not 100% what it entails as a whole).

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[QUOTE="Netherscourge"]

It's really strange to have a business openly discriminate against a group of people who would be potential customers.

Not only do you lose their business, you lose the business of everyone who supports them too.

We're I an owner or shareholder at Chic Fila, I'd be demanding the resignation of anyone at the company who was openly discriminating against potential customers.

Never mind the morality stuff - It's just bad business.

Sajo7

It's funny reading this but it's true.

Christian chicken fans flocking together in the name of fried food - and united against Gay Marriage...?

lol

It's so ridiculous, yet I can see Anti-Gay politicians heading to Chick-Fila for Photo-Ops.

Leave it to crazy right-wing Americans to rally around discrimination with a bucket of fried chicken.

LOL

You can't make this stuff up!

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[QUOTE="SEANMCAD"]

I dont care about his comments I care about media time spent on the subject.

Why do I care? because there are things a f8ck ton more important for the nation to know about then what Mr. Nugget thinks. everytime the media talks about an unimportant topic its time away from more important things the public should know about. That is why I care. Does that seem like an unreasonable position to you?

I will have to research it but as I recall it was bam..then bam...with his comment being first.

SEANMCAD

- So of all the trivial stories that get passed around in the mainstream media you're throwing a sh*tfit over this?

- Next time please be prepaired to back your sh*t up before accusing me of being dishonest. Maybe then I won't accuse you of being an idiot, but this time I will.

oh I assure you this is not the only mainstream story of no importance that I throw sh*t on. This one is of intrest to me lately because the resturant itself is crap and I think people are being asine to eat there in the first place.

I heard about his comments BEFORE the muppets comments and I almost never go around relgious publications so how did it hit my universe of knowedge I gotta wonder.

- So the only reason you're throwing such a hissy fit over this is because you don't like their food? Guess what? A lot of people do. So many that they make billions of dollars in revenue. They also contribute tens of millions of dollars to groups that are trying to deny a certain class of people equal rights. You don't think that's worthy of coverage?

- Maybe you did. Maybe you didn't. Ether way you're going by your own recollection. As am I. You're accusing me of being dishonest when you're doing the same as I am. So are you an idiot, or just a hypocrite?

The only thing about ChickFila that I like is their Waffle Fries.

Their chicken meals are no better or worse than KFC's.

It's all just overblown hype.

Netherscourge