Boston Mayor tells **** chick fil a to stay away

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[QUOTE="Netherscourge"]

It's really strange to have a business openly discriminate against a group of people who would be potential customers.

Not only do you lose their business, you lose the business of everyone who supports them too.

We're I an owner or shareholder at Chic Fila, I'd be demanding the resignation of anyone at the company who was openly discriminating against potential customers.

Never mind the morality stuff - It's just bad business.

Sajo7

I doubt it'll hurt their profits that much. Their main customer base has pretty much always been conservative Christians. Hell, if anything they'll probably see an increase in profits as more Christians with a persecution complex start eating there out of support.

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[QUOTE="SEANMCAD"]

oh I assure you this is not the only mainstream story of no importance that I throw sh*t on. This one is of intrest to me lately because the resturant itself is crap and I think people are being asine to eat there in the first place.

I heard about his comments BEFORE the muppets comments and I almost never go around relgious publications so how did it hit my universe of knowedge I gotta wonder.

SEANMCAD

- So the only reason you're throwing such a hissy fit over this is because you don't like their food? Guess what? A lot of people do. So many that they make billions of dollars in revenue. They also contribute tens of millions of dollars to groups that are trying to deny a certain class of people equal rights. You don't think that's worthy of coverage?

- Maybe you did. Maybe you didn't. Ether way you're going by your own recollection. As am I. You're accusing me of being dishonest when you're doing the same as I am. So are you an idiot, or just a hypocrite?

I call you on that. People dont like their food anymore than any other nugget. They like the owner and the business principles which I am fine with IF the product is any good which clearly its not and everyone knows it.

So your opinion = "everyone knows"?

agreed but what they are not realizing is that the approach only works in certain areas of the country....the north east isn't nearly as religious as the south..hence them struggling to get a foothold...Omni-Slash

It's funny reading this but it's true.

Christian chicken fans flocking together in the name of fried food - and united against Gay Marriage...?Netherscourge

[QUOTE="worlock77"]

[QUOTE="Sajo7"] At the same time their Christian closed-on-Sunday thing led to this cultish following of Christian chicken fans, they hold these public prayer sessions and have created this environment where fundy Christian types are trying really, really hard to get a job frying fast food. It a weird way there identity has given them a dedicated customer base. Of course now that they are starting to get political, on a dwindling stance no less, they'll probably see a hurt in profits.SEANMCAD

I doubt it'll hurt their profits that much. Their main customer base has pretty much always been conservative Christians. Hell, if anything they'll probably see an increase in profits as more Christians with a persecution complex start eating there out of support.

you just agreed with my point in my reply.

People dont like the food anymore than any other nugget. his entire business model is successful because of his belief system which is doesnt bleed into his product unless conservitive christians are willing to suggest a nugget is the end product of good faith.

I did not agree with your point. Having a specific customer base says nothing about people's opinions of the quality of the product. You're just being an arrogant, presumptious jackass.

The Mayor is completely wrong. It goes against what the Lord taught about it, and since we as Christians do determine what is right and wrong from God, it makes sense to be against it.

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[QUOTE="SEANMCAD"]

you just agreed with my point in my reply.

People dont like the food anymore than any other nugget. his entire business model is successful because of his belief system which is doesnt bleed into his product unless conservitive christians are willing to suggest a nugget is the end product of good faith.

SEANMCAD

I did not agree with your point. Having a specific customer base says nothing about people's opinions of the quality of the product. You're just being an arrogant, presumptious jackass.

your being dishonest.

you are trying to suggest that people do not select his nugget over someone else's because of his belief system but yet for some reason I suppose that is totally unrelated his main customer base is of the same belief system as his.

nice try.

Do some do that? Probably. Do all of the people who eat there do so? No, and it's f*cking stupid to insist so.

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[QUOTE="SEANMCAD"]

your being dishonest.

you are trying to suggest that people do not select his nugget over someone else's because of his belief system but yet for some reason I suppose that is totally unrelated his main customer base is of the same belief system as his.

nice try.

SEANMCAD

Do some do that? Probably. Do all of the people who eat there do so? No, and it's f*cking stupid to insist so.

My position however is different from yours, I suggest that the two facts are related and for clarity (although i should have to say this) the two can be related without 100% of the customer base being in that equation. You however are suggesting that it does need to be a 100% or nothing for the two to be related. I however am not suggesting its an all or nothing equation for the two to be related.

What two facts would that be?

[QUOTE="AutoPilotOn"]I am gonna go eat some chick Fila todaySEANMCAD

you pollute your body with crap.

I have a nice health lunch.

you win!

[QUOTE="AutoPilotOn"]I am gonna go eat some chick Fila todaySEANMCAD

you pollute your body with crap.

I have a nice health lunch.

you win!

Now you're just bordering on trollish.

[QUOTE="worlock77"]

[QUOTE="SEANMCAD"] so you are taking the position that the two facts are not connected in more ways then not and you are fine with that position. And you are also taking the position that I am implying that ALL customers do that not simply MOST.

My position however is different from yours, I suggest that the two facts are related and for clarity (although i should have to say this) the two can be related without 100% of the customer base being in that equation. You however are suggesting that it does need to be a 100% or nothing for the two to be related. I however am not suggesting its an all or nothing equation for the two to be related.

SEANMCAD

What two facts would that be?

are you 100% you want to have this conversation. Have you thought it thru totally. I dont think you have because you are about to dig yourself into a hole. You might want to step back and think it thru a bit first.

What two facts would that be?

[QUOTE="worlock77"]

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are you 100% you want to have this conversation. Have you thought it thru totally. I dont think you have because you are about to dig yourself into a hole. You might want to step back and think it thru a bit first.

SEANMCAD

What two facts would that be?

you are stating right now that despite you having read what I have said you do not know what the two facts are that i am refering to.

Am I incorrect in anyway?

Don't b*tch out now. What two facts would that be?

[QUOTE="worlock77"]

[QUOTE="SEANMCAD"]

you are stating right now that despite you having read what I have said you do not know what the two facts are that i am refering to.

Am I incorrect in anyway?

SEANMCAD

Don't b*tch out now. What two facts would that be?

not taking the bait. You at this time stand as having read what I said and not know what I was refering to, leaving you either appearing as a idoit or someone who is trying to bait a debate in an effort to divert the point.

So for your bold talk here:

"are you 100% you want to have this conversation. Have you thought it thru totally. I dont think you have because you are about to dig yourself into a hole. You might want to step back and think it thru a bit first."

Now you want to punk out of the debate?

Now, do you want to perhaps stop pretending like you dont know what I was refering to or do you wish the remain in the position that you dont know despite having read it.SEANMCAD

You've offered up a lot in the way of opinion and speculation, but not facts. So what two facts are you referring to?

11:38:54[QUOTE="worlock77"]

[QUOTE="SEANMCAD"]Now, do you want to perhaps stop pretending like you dont know what I was refering to or do you wish the remain in the position that you dont know despite having read it.SEANMCAD

You've offered up a lot in the way of opinion and speculation, but not facts. So what two facts are you referring to?

yeah I saw that comeback comming too. You are building a strawman be smart, dont start.

throw me a fast unexpected curve and just be blunt clear and honest. Its a tactic rarely ever used here.

What two facts are you referring to? Why are you hell bent on dodging this simple question?

I'm gonna try my best not to eat anymore chick-fil-a. Its a shame that more people refuse to even think about having that mindset though.

[QUOTE="worlock77"]

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yeah I saw that comeback comming too. You are building a strawman be smart, dont start.

throw me a fast unexpected curve and just be blunt clear and honest. Its a tactic rarely ever used here.

SEANMCAD

What two facts are you referring to? Why are you hell bent on dodging this simple question?

because I give you more credit then I should. I am taking the position that you DO know what I was refering and that you DO know that I was using the word 'fact' abstractly and not literally. Should I assume that you are actually less intelligent then I think you are?

Good f*cking Christ.

Again, you've offered up a lot of opinion and a lot of speculation, but not facts. Perhaps I missed something. So what facts are you referring to? Why not just answer this one simple little question? Here's your chance to pwn me. So answer it already.

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because I give you more credit then I should. I am taking the position that you DO know what I was refering and that you DO know that I was using the word 'fact' abstractly and not literally. Should I assume that you are actually less intelligent then I think you are?

SEANMCAD

Good f*cking Christ.

Again, you've offered up a lot of opinion and a lot of speculation, but not facts. Perhaps I missed something. So what facts are you referring to? Why not just answer this one simple little question? Here's your chance to pwn me. So answer it already.

you have already been pawned and you dont even know it.

your position has been unchanged. you.

1. dont know what two items I was refering to despite them being clearly written and most people do but you for some reason do not?

2. you do not have the ability to understand word 'fact' vs 'fact' (I know dont do it I see it coming)

3. you are of the position that most of the customers at chick-fil-a are relgious and consertivie however that has nothing whatsoever to do with the belief system of its owner.

and you are comfortable with all of that.

1. Is it really that difficult to just answer the question? Or do you enjoy looking like you're completely unable or unwilling to back up your claim? Most people do? Who else has commented here to indicate that since this little sh*tfit began?

2. What? You're not making a lick of goddamned sense here.

3. I have not stated that.

You're not "pawning" anybody, you're just making yourself look like a b*tch who won't, or can't, back his sh*t up.

I'm not sure how Chick Fil A operates but doesnt this just punish the franchisee who would own thisrestaurant? That person has nothing to do with what the CEO says 0_o

[QUOTE="worlock77"]

[QUOTE="SEANMCAD"]

you have already been pawned and you dont even know it.

your position has been unchanged. you.

1. dont know what two items I was refering to despite them being clearly written and most people do but you for some reason do not?

2. you do not have the ability to understand word 'fact' vs 'fact' (I know dont do it I see it coming)

3. you are of the position that most of the customers at chick-fil-a are relgious and consertivie however that has nothing whatsoever to do with the belief system of its owner.

and you are comfortable with all of that.

SEANMCAD

1. Is it really that difficult to just answer the question? Or do you enjoy looking like you're completely unable or unwilling to back up your claim? Most people do? Who else has commented here to indicate that since this little sh*tfit began?

2. What? You're not making a lick of goddamned sense here.

3. I have not stated that.

You're not "pawning" anybody, you're just making yourself look like a b*tch who won't, or can't, back his sh*t up.

Do you or do you not know what I was refering to when I said 'those two facts are related'?

as far as the orginal debate goes you have to dig yourself out of this hole first. once you do we can resume with pleasure :)

Do you think I would be asking the question if I did know? You often don't explain yourself very clearly, so I asked for clarification which you have thus far refused to provide. As I said, you've offered little in the way of fact, and a lot of the way of subjective opinion and speculation. You come in into this thread throwing a hissy fit, proclaiming your opinion as if it is some kinda of absolute, set-in-stone truth and have refused to clarify yourself. All because you have some hard-on for Chick-Fil-A for some reason.

I'm not sure how Chick Fil A operates but doesnt this just punish the franchisee who would own thisrestaurant? That person has nothing to do with what the CEO says 0_o

UnknownSniper65

Most Chick-Fil-A locations are company owned. They only license franchises at select locations such as school campuses and airports.

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[QUOTE="SEANMCAD"] yes you already have been pawned but to conitnue my win some more let me ask you this question and I expect a yes or no.

Do you or do you not know what I was refering to when I said 'those two facts are related'?

as far as the orginal debate goes you have to dig yourself out of this hole first. once you do we can resume with pleasure :)

SEANMCAD

Do you think I would be asking the question if I did know? You often don't explain yourself very clearly, so I asked for clarification which you have thus far refused to provide. As I said, you've offered little in the way of fact, and a lot of the way of subjective opinion and speculation. You come in into this thread throwing a hissy fit, proclaiming your opinion as if it is some kinda of absolute, set-in-stone truth and have refused to clarify yourself. All because you have some hard-on for Chick-Fil-A for some reason.

ok I apologise you were clearly not paying as much attention as perhaps you should have so let me recap.

I am suggesting that your statement that much of the customer base is relgious and conservitive is related to the fact that the business owner is also conservitive and relgious. Although I didnt explictly state it, for you I will, and that is I also extrapoite that MOST but not ALL of its customers are conservitive and relgious and are not buying his product because its more tasty or reasonably priced then other options but because they approve of the owners faith. Thus, the popularity of his business is related to the fact that he has a core customer base in relgion.

Now if you are not able to extrapolate the two items I refered to as 'facts' out of the sentence above then we can not continue.

And neither of those are facts. They are, at best, conjecture. So all of this just for you to prove that you're talking out of your ass. :thumbs up:

Being a christian who believes in tradtional marriage doesn't mean you a hate ful bigot. I am a christian and I don't agree with homosexuality, but I hate the sin, NOT the person. I don't go around gay bashing or any of that stuff, I usally just mind my own business and if the topic comes up in a discusion then I speak my mind in a respecful way. But I DON't like gays trying to force their lifestyle on everyone and if you don't agree with it your labled a bigot and a douchebag etc. That crap is retarded.

djshowstopper87

There are lots of things I don't like, that doesn't mean it's ok for me to ruin it for everyone else.

So can the government prohibit private opinion and private buisness? Is that what USA is about now? Or is this just the mayor's opinion with no real authority or enforcement behind it?

Philokalia

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[QUOTE="SEANMCAD"]

ok I apologise you were clearly not paying as much attention as perhaps you should have so let me recap.

I am suggesting that your statement that much of the customer base is relgious and conservitive is related to the fact that the business owner is also conservitive and relgious. Although I didnt explictly state it, for you I will, and that is I also extrapoite that MOST but not ALL of its customers are conservitive and relgious and are not buying his product because its more tasty or reasonably priced then other options but because they approve of the owners faith. Thus, the popularity of his business is related to the fact that he has a core customer base in relgion.

Now if you are not able to extrapolate the two items I refered to as 'facts' out of the sentence above then we can not continue.

SEANMCAD

And neither of those are facts. They are, at best, conjecture. So all of this just for you to prove that you're talking out of your ass. :thumbs up:

that is EXACTLY what I thought you would say 2 pages ago.

we

are

done

Because I'm right. You should have just owned up to that a couple of pages ago and spared yourself the bother.

It's known that the Cathy family operates Chick-Fil-A in accordance to their Christians principals. Chick-Fil-A is known to have a lot of fans among Christians, particularly in the Southern states. It would not be unreasonable to speculate that most of its customer base is conservative Christians. But that does not make it fact.

Furthermore nobody is going to buy a product they don't like just because the one marketing the product holds similar values and beliefs to them. A Christian might choose a Chick-Fil-A over a KFC based on his values if he likes both. But he is not going to choose the Chick-Fil-A over the KFC if he does not like Chick-Fil-A's product, no matter what his values or beliefs may be.

Being a christian who believes in tradtional marriage doesn't mean you a hate ful bigot. I am a christian and I don't agree with homosexuality, but I hate the sin, NOT the person. I don't go around gay bashing or any of that stuff, I usally just mind my own businessdjshowstopper87

Therein is the problem. Chick-Fil-A are not content to simply mind their own business. They feel it necessary to fund organizations that actively work to foster discrimination against gays.

[QUOTE="djshowstopper87"]

Being a christian who believes in tradtional marriage doesn't mean you a hate ful bigot. I am a christian and I don't agree with homosexuality, but I hate the sin, NOT the person. I don't go around gay bashing or any of that stuff, I usally just mind my own business and if the topic comes up in a discusion then I speak my mind in a respecful way. But I DON't like gays trying to force their lifestyle on everyone and if you don't agree with it your labled a bigot and a douchebag etc. That crap is retarded.

toast_burner

There are lots of things I don't like, that doesn't mean it's ok for me to ruin it for everyone else.

If youre anti-gay marriage, youre denying people rights that you already have. Youre denying people- not me. I absolutely think Im better than you. Why can't everyone be equal? Isn't that the whole point of the United States?