Boy posts emotional It Gets Better video only to commit suicide months later.

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#1 PoorEdward
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Jamey Rodemeyer was 14-years-old and a victim of constant bullying.A few months ago he posted a beautiful, tearful "It Gets Better" video, but his time at school had not improved since its release. He committed suicide earlier this week.

Original video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Pb1CaGMdWk&feature=player_embedded

I just don't understand why kids treat others till they get suicidal.... I just don't get why some kids are so malevolous. :(

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#3 skooks
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Very sad. I was bullied relentlessly at school and though I'm 26 now, I still have virtually no confidence. Bullying is something I absolutely detest and I just feel so sorry for all involved.

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#4 skooks
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Bi don't exist because there aren't people with both working sex organs. You're either one way or another. And suicides are very selfish people. They don't think we wont get upset over their deaths. :o!

LOXO7

Um... no. That's not what being bisexual is. Are you serious?

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#5 mexicangordo
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Wow, that is just incredible tragic. That video brought a tear to my eye. This is just horrible news.

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#6 Mephers
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Hmm. Not quite sure what to think
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#7 Jolt_counter119
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That's kind of f***** up now that I think of it. Make a pretty popular video trying to give confidence to hundreds of thousand of people than kill yourself? Pretty much destroys everything the video tried to accomplish.

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#8 mexicangordo
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That's kind of f***** up now that I think of it. Make a pretty popular video trying to give confidence to hundreds of thousand of people than kill yourself? Pretty much destroys everything the video tried to accomplish.

Jolt_counter119

What a negative way of looking at it.

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#9 LP4EVA2005
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*Sigh* its a cruel world we live in...at least he wont have to worry about any of that bullying in the after life
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#10 MrGeezer
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Jamey Rodemeyer was 14-years-old and a victim of constant bullying.A few months ago he posted a beautiful, tearful "It Gets Better" video, but his time at school had not improved since its release. He committed suicide earlier this week.

Original video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Pb1CaGMdWk&feature=player_embedded

I just don't understand why kids treat others till they get suicidal.... I just don't get why some kids are so malevolous. :(

PoorEdward

If he thought that "it gets better", he sure as hell wasn't willing to wait long for that to happen.

Expectations of instant gratification FTL.

Yeah...seriously. I would at least give the guy credit and assume that he actually BELIEVED that "it gets better". After all, otherwise why bother promoting that message? But wait...it takes longer than a few months for "it to get better"? Screw that, I'd might as well kill myself.

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#11 SaudiFury
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[QUOTE="Jolt_counter119"]

That's kind of f***** up now that I think of it. Make a pretty popular video trying to give confidence to hundreds of thousand of people than kill yourself? Pretty much destroys everything the video tried to accomplish.

mexicangordo

What a negative way of looking at it.

kinda does though. : / That said. I remembered getting bullied in late elementary to early middle school. but i mean. did the rules to bullying change or something? or has it always been like this? I didn't wanna kill myself when i was getting bullied. Rather got smart and manage to avoid the people doing it well enough. Still hated the guys for being bullies but i guess it must of not been that bad for me. :?
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#12 LP4EVA2005
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[QUOTE="Jolt_counter119"]

That's kind of f***** up now that I think of it. Make a pretty popular video trying to give confidence to hundreds of thousand of people than kill yourself? Pretty much destroys everything the video tried to accomplish.

mexicangordo

What a negative way of looking at it.

hes got a point...what message does that send to other people that have watched that video? if all else fails just give up and kill yourself?
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#13 Big_Pecks
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The human race can really suck sometimes.

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Kids have always been and will always be cruel. Survival of the fittest.
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#15 LOXO7
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All of these gay teen related suicides makes me wonder what the bullies said and local police try to arrest those responsible. At first I say the bullies didn't kill anyone and they didn't but after reading some of these quotes the police may have something.

Students had been posting hate comments with gay references on his Formspring account, a website that allows anonymous posts. "JAMIE IS STUPID, GAY FAT ANND [sic] UGLY. HE MUST DIE!" one post said, according to local reports. Another read, "I wouldn't care if you died. No one would. So just do it :) It would make everyone WAY more happier!"

http://abcnews.go.com/Health/jamey-rodemeyer-suicide-ny-police-open-criminal-investigation/story?id=14580832

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Well, wasn't expecting that
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#17 Fightingfan
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I never understood how put downs from another human being can emotionally bother someone else, I guess I have thick skin and never cared what people say about me.
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#18 MrGeezer
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[QUOTE="mexicangordo"]

[QUOTE="Jolt_counter119"]

That's kind of f***** up now that I think of it. Make a pretty popular video trying to give confidence to hundreds of thousand of people than kill yourself? Pretty much destroys everything the video tried to accomplish.

LP4EVA2005

What a negative way of looking at it.

hes got a point...what message does that send to other people that have watched that video? if all else fails just give up and kill yourself?

Seriously.

The dude's giving a heartfelt message about how it gets better. Then he offfs himself after high school. There are really only two ways to look at it...

1) He never believed that "it gets better" in the first place, and was just feeding viewers a load of ****.

2) He really DID believe that "it gets better", but wasn't willing to wait more than a few months for that to happen.

If it's the first situation, then that's just SICK. Why would a person do that?

And if it's the second situation, then that sort of kills his entire point. It's "it gets better", not "it gets better eventually, but there's no point waiting around that long if it's going to take more than a few months."

*shrugs*

Anyway, he was a 14 year old kid who committed suicide. Not every death has to have some deep and profound meaning, especially when we're talking about adolescent boys. Gay/straight/bi/whatever, it doesn't take a hell of a lot to get people around that age to go into "self-destruct" mode. MAYBE this carries some deep lesson about bullying and tolerance. Or MAYBE the whole "alternative lifestyles acceptance" issue is merely tangential to this being just another teenaged boy who killed himself.

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#19 CreasianDevaili
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I remember taking physical violence as a kid for just being/saying/thinking for myself. That is kind of the consenquence. I figure it was the whole picture but I have no fathom of the entitlement I see. People do not like you. They want to hurt you. You can deal with it in person by whatever means you deem best but online? It is like if someone calls your house and screams at you. Sure you can stay on the line and let it keep hitting you, or hang up? Whatever I guess. It was his choice to make and I hope he only did it to stop his pain and not.. some other reason.
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#20 Ncsoftlover
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I've never fitted into the society my whole life, so being gay or not doesn't affect my chances with people, I mostly don't have any social interaction because of psychological issues. To be honest, if anyone start to bully me, I'd actually be pretty happy, because, well, there's some social interation, but I'd never care what others think, or say about me as a human being, only my own feelings and my loved ones matter.

With that said, it's always tragic to hear stories like this, makes it worse when I saw his it gets better video, he was adorable and seemed determined to brush off the bullying that he had suffered, don't know happened since then. I hope he now lives a more tolerant and less judgemental world, than he one he left behind.

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#21 Ncsoftlover
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[QUOTE="LP4EVA2005"][QUOTE="mexicangordo"] What a negative way of looking at it.

MrGeezer

hes got a point...what message does that send to other people that have watched that video? if all else fails just give up and kill yourself?

Seriously.

The dude's giving a heartfelt message about how it gets better. Then he offfs himself after high school. There are really only two ways to look at it...

1) He never believed that "it gets better" in the first place, and was just feeding viewers a load of ****.

2) He really DID believe that "it gets better", but wasn't willing to wait more than a few months for that to happen.

If it's the first situation, then that's just SICK. Why would a person do that?

And if it's the second situation, then that sort of kills his entire point. It's "it gets better", not "it gets better eventually, but there's no point waiting around that long if it's going to take more than a few months."

*shrugs*

Anyway, he was a 14 year old kid who committed suicide. Not every death has to have some deep and profound meaning, especially when we're talking about adolescent boys. Gay/straight/bi/whatever, it doesn't take a hell of a lot to get people around that age to go into "self-destruct" mode. MAYBE this carries some deep lesson about bullying and tolerance. Or MAYBE the whole "alternative lifestyles acceptance" issue is merely tangential to this being just another teenaged boy who killed himself.

good point, people who can't stand it (whatever it is ) kill themselves all the time, just because the person happens to be gay/bi, suddenly makes the case so sentitive.

Anti-bullying is quite important, but bullying with never truly disappear, helping people who are too psychologically challenged to not doubt themselves becomes more important.

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#22 SaudiFury
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anti-bullying.

i wouldn't even know where to begin to enforce such a thing.

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#23 dkdk999
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Very sad. I was bullied relentlessly at school and though I'm 26 now, I still have virtually no confidence. Bullying is something I absolutely detest and I just feel so sorry for all involved.

skooks
I completely agree you. I was bullied early on in high school. it was mostly about destroying my self confindence and so on. and it makes me rage that people act that way. Especially the fact that other kids don't really do anything alot of the time.
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People must pay for bullying...grr! making me want to bully the bullies :P..but that wouldnt work, right?
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More proof words are useless.
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#26 dkdk999
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anti-bullying.

i wouldn't even know where to begin to enforce such a thing.

SaudiFury
heres an idea stop forcing kids to be around eachother.
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#27 SaudiFury
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[QUOTE="SaudiFury"]

anti-bullying.

i wouldn't even know where to begin to enforce such a thing.

dkdk999
heres an idea stop forcing kids to be around eachother.

it's school.. wait are you joking?
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#28 DucksBrains
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Hope is the first step on the road to disappointment.

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#29 Victorious_Fize
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[QUOTE="SaudiFury"]

anti-bullying.

i wouldn't even know where to begin to enforce such a thing.

dkdk999

heres an idea stop forcing kids to be around eachother.

That doesn't work quite well. Reinstating corporal punishment is pretty it for me.

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#30 dkdk999
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[QUOTE="dkdk999"][QUOTE="SaudiFury"]

anti-bullying.

i wouldn't even know where to begin to enforce such a thing.

SaudiFury

heres an idea stop forcing kids to be around eachother.

it's school.. wait are you joking?

ok sorry I forget my opinions are too radical for these forums. But is it really that outlandish to think that kids would be fine not being forced to learn a whole bunch of subjects that never going to use ?

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I like the idea of ring fights like that one Texas high school had. Where kids would fight in the ring to settle disputes. The kid could have gone to train for a year at a Muay Thai gym then come back and kick all their asses.

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#32 Bloodseeker23
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[QUOTE="SaudiFury"][QUOTE="dkdk999"] heres an idea stop forcing kids to be around eachother. dkdk999

it's school.. wait are you joking?

ok sorry I forget my opinions are too radical for these forums. But is it really that outlandish to think that kids would be fine not being forced to learn a whole bunch of subjects that never going to use ?

Well, you never know if that subject might peak their interest, and they will grow on that. Thats why its there, so theyll know whats their strongest attributes in life and what not. But then, anti-bullying is being establish for a lot of schools in SoCal the past few years, but its still there, but its not as much as back then imo.
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#33 Victorious_Fize
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I like the idea of ring fights like that one Texas high school had. Where kids would fight in the ring to settle disputes. The kid could have gone to train for a year at a Muay Thai gym then come back and kick all their asses.

xionvalkyrie

What if the bullies were master Taekwondo fighters? :P

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Really don't care at all to be honest. Nor do I think his death should be such a big deal.

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#35 LOXO7
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@Ncsoftlover Haha. You. The bullies are his age. So one drastic action was made from another. Words are overrated. I have toddler nephews and nieces that say the darnest things, but I know they don't know how adults understand it. But I think people are looking this at the wrong way. We all know bulling is bad. But it seems no one ever looks at suicide being a bad thing. After many stories on bullies and suicide this is still happening. Action is being made at schools to help stop bullying. But is there action against suicide? Suicide and bullying are both wrong. Lets just look at the bullying part and the trend will continue.

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#36 OfficerLeach_
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My dad killed his self when I was 7...I have no remorse for people who commit suicide...its a selfish act...

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#37 dkdk999
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My dad killed his self when I was 7...I have no remorse for people who commit suicide...its a selfish act...

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I'm sorry about that man. :( But a dad who has kids killing himself and a kid killing himself are two very different things. Kids are not responsible for hurting other people's feelings that way.
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My dad killed his self when I was 7...I have no remorse for people who commit suicide...its a selfish act...

OfficerLeach_
I used to say that...but being depressed and suicidal myself I now disagree. When every day is an agonizing burden, how selfish am I being by wanting some peace?
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#39 OfficerLeach_
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[QUOTE="OfficerLeach_"]

My dad killed his self when I was 7...I have no remorse for people who commit suicide...its a selfish act...

dkdk999

I'm sorry about that man. :( But a dad who has kids killing himself and a kid killing himself are two very different things. Kids are not responsible for hurting other people's feelings that way.

Its sad sure but he killed his self and im sure he hurt his family and friends so really he was the one causing others pain in the end...im sorry this is an issue nondebatable to me...he shouldnt have killed his self and dealt with his problems instead of giving up and taking the easy way out...maybe its just because of my experience with it (2 friends also) but i cant muster up no sympathy for someone who would do that.

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#40 Bloodseeker23
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[QUOTE="OfficerLeach_"]

My dad killed his self when I was 7...I have no remorse for people who commit suicide...its a selfish act...

PS2_ROCKS
I used to say that...but being depressed and suicidal myself I now disagree. When every day is an agonizing burden, how selfish am I being by wanting some peace?

sig material right there bro. deep. very deep.
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[QUOTE="OfficerLeach_"]

My dad killed his self when I was 7...I have no remorse for people who commit suicide...its a selfish act...

PS2_ROCKS
I used to say that...but being depressed and suicidal myself I now disagree. When every day is an agonizing burden, how selfish am I being by wanting some peace?

You want peace, so you off yourself. Imagine how your friends, and family must feel? how much grieving they'd go through, realize their lives will never be the same. Personally, i think this boy ruined the "It gets better" videos, because either it doesn't get better, or it took too long to get better, so long that this boy couldn't wait for the better days. Rather than working hard to improve his life, he simply made a video expecting everything to get better, it didn't, so he offed himself. Which makes me wonder, Does it get better?
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#42 LOXO7
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You want peace, so you off yourself. Imagine how your friends, and family must feel? how much grieving they'd go through, realize their lives will never be the same. Personally, i think this boy ruined the "It gets better" videos, because either it doesn't get better, or it took too long to get better, so long that this boy couldn't wait for the better days. Rather than working hard to improve his life, he simply made a video expecting everything to get better, it didn't, so he offed himself. Which makes me wonder, Does it get better?Nibroc420
Of course it does. Adults don't have the minds of teenagers. What a terrible thing to say.

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#43 OfficerLeach_
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[QUOTE="OfficerLeach_"]

My dad killed his self when I was 7...I have no remorse for people who commit suicide...its a selfish act...

PS2_ROCKS

I used to say that...but being depressed and suicidal myself I now disagree. When every day is an agonizing burden, how selfish am I being by wanting some peace?

Just excuses man...you can always change the outcome and theres so many ways to get out of a bad situaion besides ending your life and not to mention if you are religious like me and beleive in hell then how can you want to take your self from bad to horrible? LIVE YOUR LIFE BE HAPPY...smoke weed that always helps...maybe try going to a random church and talking to someone thier about it even if you never even read the bible...thats what I did...it helps bro...and if you need you can hmu on facebook or IM and I can talk with ya..

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[quote="Nibroc420"] You want peace, so you off yourself. Imagine how your friends, and family must feel? how much grieving they'd go through, realize their lives will never be the same. Personally, i think this boy ruined the "It gets better" videos, because either it doesn't get better, or it took too long to get better, so long that this boy couldn't wait for the better days. Rather than working hard to improve his life, he simply made a video expecting everything to get better, it didn't, so he offed himself. Which makes me wonder, Does it get better?LOXO7

Of course it does. Adults don't have the minds of teenagers. What a terrible thing to say.

What's so terrible about it? He made a video telling everyone that he's bi, and that since he came out, everything's been so much better! Umm ok, so if everything was better, why'd he suicide? If nothing was better, he's simply lying to his audience, which again means we must question his conclusion of "It gets better."
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@Ncsoftlover Haha. You. The bullies are his age. So one drastic action was made from another. Words are overrated. I have toddler nephews and nieces that say the darnest things, but I know they don't know how adults understand it. But I think people are looking this at the wrong way. We all know bulling is bad. But it seems no one ever looks at suicide being a bad thing. After many stories on bullies and suicide this is still happening. Action is being made at schools to help stop bullying. But is there action against suicide? Suicide and bullying are both wrong. Lets just look at the bullying part and the trend will continue.

LOXO7

I never had a choice on how, when, where I was born into this world, I never choose to start my life. But if being alive is too painful for me, then I should have the right to end it! It maybe selfish in ways but you don't know how much the person's suffering, it may hurt the person's loved ones, but you'd be assuming that the person actually has loved ones who cares about him/her, even if they do, would it be fair to the person to live in pain and suffer through life just because other people may be hurt by his/her death? I don't see suicide as something wrong, I discourage suicide of course, but I understand the pain people suffered for the to finally make the decision of taking their own lives.

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#46 Ncsoftlover
Member since 2007 • 2152 Posts

[QUOTE="PS2_ROCKS"][QUOTE="OfficerLeach_"]

My dad killed his self when I was 7...I have no remorse for people who commit suicide...its a selfish act...

Nibroc420

I used to say that...but being depressed and suicidal myself I now disagree. When every day is an agonizing burden, how selfish am I being by wanting some peace?

You want peace, so you off yourself. Imagine how your friends, and family must feel? how much grieving they'd go through, realize their lives will never be the same. Personally, i think this boy ruined the "It gets better" videos, because either it doesn't get better, or it took too long to get better, so long that this boy couldn't wait for the better days. Rather than working hard to improve his life, he simply made a video expecting everything to get better, it didn't, so he offed himself. Which makes me wonder, Does it get better?

A person who's in so much pain, that they'd rather not stay alive, is held responsible to other people's feelings? Is that not too much to ask the person?

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#47 Nibroc420
Member since 2007 • 13571 Posts

[QUOTE="Nibroc420"][QUOTE="PS2_ROCKS"] I used to say that...but being depressed and suicidal myself I now disagree. When every day is an agonizing burden, how selfish am I being by wanting some peace? Ncsoftlover

You want peace, so you off yourself. Imagine how your friends, and family must feel? how much grieving they'd go through, realize their lives will never be the same. Personally, i think this boy ruined the "It gets better" videos, because either it doesn't get better, or it took too long to get better, so long that this boy couldn't wait for the better days. Rather than working hard to improve his life, he simply made a video expecting everything to get better, it didn't, so he offed himself. Which makes me wonder, Does it get better?

A person who's in so much pain, that they'd rather not stay alive, is held responsible to other people's feelings? Is that not too much to ask the person?

People should always remember the effects their actions have on others. Especially when those "other people" include their close friends and family.
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#48 Morphic
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School is a pretty brutal place. I know from experience.

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#49 Mephers
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[QUOTE="OfficerLeach_"]

My dad killed his self when I was 7...I have no remorse for people who commit suicide...its a selfish act...

PS2_ROCKS

I used to say that...but being depressed and suicidal myself I now disagree. When every day is an agonizing burden, how selfish am I being by wanting some peace?



:( ditto. but i got to MAN UP!

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#50 Gaming-Planet
Member since 2008 • 21106 Posts

He gave up so easily.

I've come close to killing myself but I knew that I would gain nothing from it. Well, my issue had nothing to do with being bullied... I was usually the bully. I had a ton of domestic violence at home that made me emotionally unstable.

Well not sure what to say then just RIP.