Bradley Manning gets 35 years for leaks, now wants to be 'Chelsea' Manning

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So if he gets a sex change, does he go to a female prison despite his male parts? Or will be be a wanna-be female in a male prison? Either way, if he's going to spend 35 years in prison, it might be best if he was gay.
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[QUOTE="Nibroc420"]So if he gets a sex change, does he go to a female prison despite his male parts? Or will be be a wanna-be female in a male prison? Either way, if he's going to spend 35 years in prison, it might be best if he was gay.

If she gets a sex change, she won't have male parts anymore. :|
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#153 GrayF0X786
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[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="Makhaidos"] *Her. She's a woman.Makhaidos
No. He's not.

That's not up to you to decide.

it's not Bradleys decision either.

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#154 MakeMeaSammitch
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He betrayed the U.S. 

He deserves more time if anything.

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[QUOTE="Makhaidos"][QUOTE="Nibroc420"]So if he gets a sex change, does he go to a female prison despite his male parts? Or will be be a wanna-be female in a male prison? Either way, if he's going to spend 35 years in prison, it might be best if he was gay.

If she gets a sex change, she won't have male parts anymore. :|

"She" wants to begin hormone treatment. "She" has not had a chance to have physical, reconstructive surgery on "her" male parts. Curious if "She" is going to be a man in a women's prison, or a woman in a men's prison.
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#156 Makhaidos
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[QUOTE="Makhaidos"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]No. He's not.GrayF0X786

That's not up to you to decide.

it's not Bradleys decision either.

Correct. Nobody can tell an individual what their gender is and nobody decides their gender. Chelsea is a woman.
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#157 LJS9502_basic
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[QUOTE="Makhaidos"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="Makhaidos"] *Her. She's a woman.

No. He's not.

That's not up to you to decide.

If we can just say something and it's true.....I'm the ruler of earth. Bow down to me pleeb....
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[QUOTE="Nibroc420"][QUOTE="Makhaidos"][QUOTE="Nibroc420"]So if he gets a sex change, does he go to a female prison despite his male parts? Or will be be a wanna-be female in a male prison? Either way, if he's going to spend 35 years in prison, it might be best if he was gay.

If she gets a sex change, she won't have male parts anymore. :|

"She" wants to begin hormone treatment. "She" has not had a chance to have physical, reconstructive surgery on "her" male parts. Curious if "She" is going to be a man in a women's prison, or a woman in a men's prison.

Hormonal therapy is not a sex change. You said "Sex change."
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[QUOTE="Makhaidos"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]No. He's not.LJS9502_basic
That's not up to you to decide.

If we can just say something and it's true.....I'm the ruler of earth. Bow down to me pleeb....

I trust an individual person to know their own gender better than someone besides them.
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#160 SaudiFury
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just noticed that someone went to all the trouble of redoing all the pronouns on her wikipedia page already.

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#161 LJS9502_basic
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[QUOTE="GrayF0X786"]

[QUOTE="Makhaidos"] That's not up to you to decide.Makhaidos

it's not Bradleys decision either.

Correct. Nobody can tell an individual what their gender is and nobody decides their gender. Chelsea is a woman.

And you can't tell someone using biology to differentiate sexes they have to call a male a female.
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[QUOTE="Makhaidos"][QUOTE="Nibroc420"][QUOTE="Makhaidos"] If she gets a sex change, she won't have male parts anymore. :|

"She" wants to begin hormone treatment. "She" has not had a chance to have physical, reconstructive surgery on "her" male parts. Curious if "She" is going to be a man in a women's prison, or a woman in a men's prison.

Hormonal therapy is not a sex change. You said "Sex change."

Apologies. He now identifies as She. As such, will Chelsea Manning attend a male prison due to his male parts, or a female prison because he identifies as a female?
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[QUOTE="GrayF0X786"]

[QUOTE="Makhaidos"] That's not up to you to decide.Makhaidos

it's not Bradleys decision either.

Correct. Nobody can tell an individual what their gender is and nobody decides their gender. Chelsea is a woman.

lmao, he is a freaking MAN, for example if your mother decided to take away her ting tongs and decided to call herself bob, you will still see her as your MOTHER and still a WOMEN. 

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[QUOTE="Makhaidos"][QUOTE="GrayF0X786"] it's not Bradleys decision either.LJS9502_basic
Correct. Nobody can tell an individual what their gender is and nobody decides their gender. Chelsea is a woman.

And you can't tell someone using biology to differentiate sexes they have to call a male a female.

Sex and gender aren't the same thing. :|
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#165 LJS9502_basic
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[QUOTE="Makhaidos"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="Makhaidos"] That's not up to you to decide.

If we can just say something and it's true.....I'm the ruler of earth. Bow down to me pleeb....

I trust an individual person to know their own gender better than someone besides them.

Physically....he's a man. Period.
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[QUOTE="Makhaidos"][QUOTE="GrayF0X786"] it's not Bradleys decision either.LJS9502_basic
Correct. Nobody can tell an individual what their gender is and nobody decides their gender. Chelsea is a woman.

And you can't tell someone using biology to differentiate sexes they have to call a male a female.

Gender and Sex are two entirely different things. For someone who argues semantics 24/7, One would think you'd focus a little more on the details.
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#167 LJS9502_basic
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[QUOTE="Makhaidos"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="Makhaidos"] Correct. Nobody can tell an individual what their gender is and nobody decides their gender. Chelsea is a woman.

And you can't tell someone using biology to differentiate sexes they have to call a male a female.

Sex and gender aren't the same thing. :|

And your post merely corrected someone and said he's a she. Nothing about gender there skippy.
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[QUOTE="Makhaidos"][QUOTE="GrayF0X786"] it's not Bradleys decision either.

GrayF0X786

Correct. Nobody can tell an individual what their gender is and nobody decides their gender. Chelsea is a woman.

lmao, he is a freaking MAN, for example if your mother decided to take away her ting tongs and decided to call herself bob, she is still your MOTHER, and is still a WOMEN. 

She's a women? That must be really difficult to pull off. If my mother decided to take away her "ting tongs" (whatever the hell those are; I assume they're some kind of Chinese ritual tinctures), it would be because she's a man. . .and she wants her body to finally reflect that. And I would respect that.
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#169 LJS9502_basic
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[QUOTE="Nibroc420"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="Makhaidos"] Correct. Nobody can tell an individual what their gender is and nobody decides their gender. Chelsea is a woman.

And you can't tell someone using biology to differentiate sexes they have to call a male a female.

Gender and Sex are two entirely different things. For someone who argues semantics 24/7, One would think you'd focus a little more on the details.

24/7? Then it should be easy for you to bring up all the semantics arguments I've been in the last week. I'll wait here.....Nowhere in the initial post did he speak of gender.
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[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="Makhaidos"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"] And you can't tell someone using biology to differentiate sexes they have to call a male a female.

Sex and gender aren't the same thing. :|

And your post merely corrected someone and said he's a she. Nothing about gender there skippy.

Gender pronouns have nothing to do with gender? Okay then.
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#171 GrayF0X786
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[QUOTE="GrayF0X786"]

[QUOTE="Makhaidos"] Correct. Nobody can tell an individual what their gender is and nobody decides their gender. Chelsea is a woman.Makhaidos

lmao, he is a freaking MAN, for example if your mother decided to take away her ting tongs and decided to call herself bob, she is still your MOTHER, and is still a WOMEN. 

She's a women? That must be really difficult to pull off. If my mother decided to take away her "ting tongs" (whatever the hell those are; I assume they're some kind of Chinese ritual tinctures), it would be because she's a man. . .and she wants her body to finally reflect that. And I would respect that.

is this what the world has fallen to? :lol:

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[QUOTE="Makhaidos"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]If we can just say something and it's true.....I'm the ruler of earth. Bow down to me pleeb....LJS9502_basic
I trust an individual person to know their own gender better than someone besides them.

Physically....he's a man. Period.

Physics can be changed. Gender can not.
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[QUOTE="Makhaidos"][QUOTE="GrayF0X786"] lmao, he is a freaking MAN, for example if your mother decided to take away her ting tongs and decided to call herself bob, she is still your MOTHER, and is still a WOMEN. 

GrayF0X786

She's a women? That must be really difficult to pull off. If my mother decided to take away her "ting tongs" (whatever the hell those are; I assume they're some kind of Chinese ritual tinctures), it would be because she's a man. . .and she wants her body to finally reflect that. And I would respect that.

is this what the world has fallen to? :lol:

No; the world has risen. You're just so stuck in a hole that you can't tell the difference. :D
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[QUOTE="Makhaidos"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="Makhaidos"] I trust an individual person to know their own gender better than someone besides them.

Physically....he's a man. Period.

Physics can be changed. Gender can not.

You can change gravity :o
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#175 LJS9502_basic
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[QUOTE="Makhaidos"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="Makhaidos"] Sex and gender aren't the same thing. :|

And your post merely corrected someone and said he's a she. Nothing about gender there skippy.

Gender pronouns have nothing to do with gender? Okay then.

Gender pronouns are worthless if you talking about someone without differentiating that is what you're talking about.
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[QUOTE="Nibroc420"][QUOTE="Makhaidos"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"] Physically....he's a man. Period.

Physics can be changed. Gender can not.

You can change gravity :o

Well, I do have a Mass Effect field in my pants. :cool:
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[QUOTE="Makhaidos"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]And your post merely corrected someone and said he's a she. Nothing about gender there skippy.LJS9502_basic
Gender pronouns have nothing to do with gender? Okay then.

Gender pronouns are worthless if you talking about someone without differentiating that is what you're talking about.

This post makes perfect sense.
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[QUOTE="Makhaidos"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="Makhaidos"] I trust an individual person to know their own gender better than someone besides them.

Physically....he's a man. Period.

Physics can be changed. Gender can not.

Physics can be changed?:lol:
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I know a guy. He is biologically a woman (for now, anyway). His gender is a man. His gender pronouns are: Him, his, he.
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#180 Nibroc420
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[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="Makhaidos"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"] Physically....he's a man. Period.

Physics can be changed. Gender can not.

Physics can be changed?:lol:

Once again, we can witness the LJS doing what he does best. Avoiding the discussion he's about to lose, by pointing out minor errors. I think it's clear they meant physique not Physics.
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[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="Makhaidos"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"] Physically....he's a man. Period.

Physics can be changed. Gender can not.

Physics can be changed?:lol:

As far as physical form goes, yeah. . .or are you saying sex change operations aren't real?
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[QUOTE="Makhaidos"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="Makhaidos"] Physics can be changed. Gender can not.

Physics can be changed?:lol:

As far as physical form goes, yeah. . .or are you saying sex change operations aren't real?

I'm pretty sure you mean physiques, not Physics.
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[QUOTE="Makhaidos"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="Makhaidos"] Physics can be changed. Gender can not.

Physics can be changed?:lol:

As far as physical form goes, yeah. . .or are you saying sex change operations aren't real?

Then if that is the barometer we are now discussing....he's still male. And we're in the here and now. Nonetheless.....you post was three words. It didn't detail gender identity at all. Thus, you shouldn't be have a hissy fit when someone doesn't agree with you.
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[QUOTE="Makhaidos"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]Physics can be changed?:lol:Nibroc420
As far as physical form goes, yeah. . .or are you saying sex change operations aren't real?

I'm pretty sure you mean physiques, not Physics.

Yeah, that.
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do they have a circus in prison for him to perform in next to the elephant man and the lion faced boy?

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[QUOTE="Makhaidos"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]Physics can be changed?:lol:LJS9502_basic
As far as physical form goes, yeah. . .or are you saying sex change operations aren't real?

Then if that is the barometer we are now discussing....he's still male. And we're in the here and now. Nonetheless.....you post was three words. It didn't detail gender identity at all. Thus, you shouldn't be have a hissy fit when someone doesn't agree with you.

I'm not having a hissy fit. :? And my initial post was correcting the pronoun usage of "he," which is wrong in the case of Manning, as she is a "she."
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[QUOTE="Nibroc420"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="Makhaidos"] Physics can be changed. Gender can not.

Physics can be changed?:lol:

Once again, we can witness the LJS doing what he does best. Avoiding the discussion he's about to lose, by pointing out minor errors. I think it's clear they meant physique not Physics.

Nope. Not doing that. I address posts as they appear. How about you stop avoiding the proof I asked for....or are you afraid to show yourself up as ignorant, wrong, lying....or all three?
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do they have a circus in prison for him to perform in next to the elephant man and the lion faced boy?

Flubbbs
No, but if he gets a male cell-mate, i'm sure neither will mind him being the girl in the relationship.
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[QUOTE="Makhaidos"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="Makhaidos"] As far as physical form goes, yeah. . .or are you saying sex change operations aren't real?

Then if that is the barometer we are now discussing....he's still male. And we're in the here and now. Nonetheless.....you post was three words. It didn't detail gender identity at all. Thus, you shouldn't be have a hissy fit when someone doesn't agree with you.

I'm not having a hissy fit. :? And my initial post was correcting the pronoun usage of "he," which is wrong in the case of Manning, as she is a "she."

No it's not wrong. If he's talking biologically...it's entirely correct.
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#190 Nibroc420
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[QUOTE="Nibroc420"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]Physics can be changed?:lol:LJS9502_basic
Once again, we can witness the LJS doing what he does best. Avoiding the discussion he's about to lose, by pointing out minor errors. I think it's clear they meant physique not Physics.

Nope. Not doing that. I address posts as they appear. How about you stop avoiding the proof I asked for....or are you afraid to show yourself up as ignorant, wrong, lying....or all three?

You're known well enough. Would be like if i were Hitler asking my friends for "proof I hate Jews". It's a good laugh, but no proof is needed.
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[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="Makhaidos"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"] Then if that is the barometer we are now discussing....he's still male. And we're in the here and now. Nonetheless.....you post was three words. It didn't detail gender identity at all. Thus, you shouldn't be have a hissy fit when someone doesn't agree with you.

I'm not having a hissy fit. :? And my initial post was correcting the pronoun usage of "he," which is wrong in the case of Manning, as she is a "she."

No it's not wrong. If he's talking biologically...it's entirely correct.

If he's talking biologically, Chelsea would be of the male sex. However Chelsea's gender is female.
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do they have a circus in prison for him to perform in next to the elephant man and the lion faced boy?

Flubbbs
I feel obligated to point out that you aren't funny. At all.
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[QUOTE="Makhaidos"][QUOTE="GrayF0X786"] lmao, he is a freaking MAN, for example if your mother decided to take away her ting tongs and decided to call herself bob, she is still your MOTHER, and is still a WOMEN. 

GrayF0X786

She's a women? That must be really difficult to pull off. If my mother decided to take away her "ting tongs" (whatever the hell those are; I assume they're some kind of Chinese ritual tinctures), it would be because she's a man. . .and she wants her body to finally reflect that. And I would respect that.

is this what the world has fallen to? :lol:

You've never heard of gender dysphoria before?

I guess it figures, given you once used the word "corruption" to refer to a country legalizing same-sex marriage.

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[QUOTE="Flubbbs"]

do they have a circus in prison for him to perform in next to the elephant man and the lion faced boy?

PannicAtack

I feel obligated to point out that you aren't funny. At all.

i know im not funny.. im a perfectly normal male unlike bradley manning

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#196 Mind_Mover
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Shit, i didn't realize OT had so many gender specialists.

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#197 Flubbbs
Member since 2010 • 4968 Posts

[QUOTE="MakeMeaSammitch"]

He betrayed the U.S. 

He deserves more time if anything.

SNIPER4321

exposing war crimes is not betray he is innocent and should be free

i tend to disagree.. a firing squad would free him from his awful disease and save the american taxpayers hundreds of thousands of dollars keeping him in prison

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#198 LJS9502_basic
Member since 2003 • 180056 Posts

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="Nibroc420"] Once again, we can witness the LJS doing what he does best. Avoiding the discussion he's about to lose, by pointing out minor errors. I think it's clear they meant physique not Physics.Nibroc420
Nope. Not doing that. I address posts as they appear. How about you stop avoiding the proof I asked for....or are you afraid to show yourself up as ignorant, wrong, lying....or all three?

You're known well enough. Would be like if i were Hitler asking my friends for "proof I hate Jews". It's a good laugh, but no proof is needed.

In other words....you're talking out of you ass again. The only ones that say I do semantics all the time are those that can't have a discussion. Period. I have seen ZERO intelligent people on this site ever say that. Just the morons.

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#199 Nibroc420
Member since 2007 • 13571 Posts

[QUOTE="Nibroc420"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]Nope. Not doing that. I address posts as they appear. How about you stop avoiding the proof I asked for....or are you afraid to show yourself up as ignorant, wrong, lying....or all three?LJS9502_basic

You're known well enough. Would be like if i were Hitler asking my friends for "proof I hate Jews". It's a good laugh, but no proof is needed.

In other words....you're talking out of you ass again. The only ones that say I do semantics all the time are those that can't have a discussion. Period. I have seen ZERO intelligent people on this site ever say that. Just the morons.

If it's the morons pointing out the flaws in your arguements, what does that make you?