Things are starting to get serious.
http://downtrend.com/james/california-county-declares-secession-from-state/
So what do you guys/gals think about this?
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Things are starting to get serious.
http://downtrend.com/james/california-county-declares-secession-from-state/
So what do you guys/gals think about this?
I'm wondering what specific 'unconstitutional' laws that may have spurred this decision. As for the $150 fire prevention fee mentioned in the article, I'm guessing this area is prone to wild fires? HoolaHoopMan
The ones that made slavery illegal and gave women and minorities equal rights.
I'm wondering what specific 'unconstitutional' laws that may have spurred this decision. As for the $150 fire prevention fee mentioned in the article, I'm guessing this area is prone to wild fires? HoolaHoopManyup. but they shouldn't have to pay a fee to help fight them...
yup. but they shouldn't have to pay a fee to help fight them...[QUOTE="HoolaHoopMan"]I'm wondering what specific 'unconstitutional' laws that may have spurred this decision. As for the $150 fire prevention fee mentioned in the article, I'm guessing this area is prone to wild fires? comp_atkins
Why? Normal taxes might not be enough for the equipment needed to fight these fires... I see planes and helicopters being used to fight fires and the likes... Not to mention special training, hundreds of people on duty when they break out, etc, etc... That is probably a tad (read: huge amount) more expensive than a run of the mill fire department with the tools and skills to contain a fire in a building.
yup. but they shouldn't have to pay a fee to help fight them...[QUOTE="HoolaHoopMan"]I'm wondering what specific 'unconstitutional' laws that may have spurred this decision. As for the $150 fire prevention fee mentioned in the article, I'm guessing this area is prone to wild fires? comp_atkins
yup. but they shouldn't have to pay a fee to help fight them...[QUOTE="comp_atkins"]
[QUOTE="HoolaHoopMan"]I'm wondering what specific 'unconstitutional' laws that may have spurred this decision. As for the $150 fire prevention fee mentioned in the article, I'm guessing this area is prone to wild fires? Squeets
Why? Normal taxes might not be enough for the equipment needed to fight these fires... I see planes and helicopters being used to fight fires and the likes... Not to mention special training, hundreds of people on duty when they break out, etc, etc... That is probably a tad (read: huge amount) more expensive than a run of the mill fire department with the tools and skills to contain a fire in a building.
*files patent application for sarcasm font* :PHaving 51 states would be pretty cool. 50 states get boring after 53 years. Time for some change. Isn't that what Obama's campaign was all about? Make it happen.
If it happens, it happens. Kind of wish North Florida ( above orlando ) would succeed into their own state.
If it happens, it happens. Kind of wish North Florida ( above orlando ) would succeed into their own state.
The_Lipscomb
Agreed.
[QUOTE="Ackad"]So Texas and now California? What's the purpose of secession anyways? Google search won't exactly help out because it's too general worlock77
Texas hasn't talked about secession.
Give it a week; I'm sure they have it somewhere on their monthly agenda.Actually no I don't.[QUOTE="Makhaidos"]Remember those ultra-right-wingers who left the U.S. for stupid reasons and then got lost at sea and nearly died? Yeah, this is gonna turn out a similar way.whipassmt
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2013/08/10/religious-family-abandons-us/2639835/
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This could be good for the country as a whole because California has so much electoral votes and this would reduce that number.
worlock77
Yeah. 45,000 out of a state of 38,000,000. That'll really put a dent in those electoral votes.
It would take away at least one though. Every state must have at least one congressman. Plus maybe some other counties will join them.[QUOTE="worlock77"]
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This could be good for the country as a whole because California has so much electoral votes and this would reduce that number.
whipassmt
Yeah. 45,000 out of a state of 38,000,000. That'll really put a dent in those electoral votes.
It would take away at least one though. Every state must have at least one congressman. Plus maybe some other counties will join them.One whole electoral vote? Crap. That's a game changer.
Actually no I don't.[QUOTE="whipassmt"]
[QUOTE="Makhaidos"]Remember those ultra-right-wingers who left the U.S. for stupid reasons and then got lost at sea and nearly died? Yeah, this is gonna turn out a similar way.Makhaidos
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2013/08/10/religious-family-abandons-us/2639835/
I wonder how he's going to spin this. *waits eagerly with popcorn*[QUOTE="whipassmt"]
This could be good for the country as a whole because California has so much electoral votes and this would reduce that number.
worlock77
Yeah. 45,000 out of a state of 38,000,000. That'll really put a dent in those electoral votes.
7 years from now at that.I can't see this having success in itself - but the idea of splitting California between North and South seems to be one that's fairly common for both sides and could wind up happening at some point. I'm also aware of attempts at forming an independed "Cascadia" in the Pacific Northwest but I can't see that happening.
Just this county becoming a state by itself though no way.
My city has 17,000 more. Beat that. :PTheir county has 44,000 people, my city has 3000 more.
Lief_Ericson
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Actually no I don't.
Aljosa23
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2013/08/10/religious-family-abandons-us/2639835/
I wonder how he's going to spin this. *waits eagerly with popcorn*Nowhere in that article does it state political affiliation if any. Suggesting that they are right wing extremists is speculation and not based on fact.Â
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