Church Tells HIV Patients To Stop Treatment. At Least 6 Die As a Result.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OSOoqP6zCYI&list=UUovEQSBhiFdl0dPfTl-UnQw&index=6&feature=plcp

The worst part is that the church seems to care more about protecting its reputation than admitting to their faults.

I don't think i can even blame the church for people's stupidity.

To be fair though if i had HIV, i'd probably want to die as soon as i could and get it over with.

More insecurities labavo? You do seem to have an agenda.LJS9502_basic

More insecurities labavo? You do seem to have an agenda.LJS9502_basic

RELIGIONS ARE THE DEVIL!!!!!!!!11!!!1!one

There have always been really radical sections of churches. It's always been a very regional thing. Churches don't share one large mentality that blankets their entire population. That's a major misconception by the internet atheists.

More insecurities labavo? You do seem to have an agenda.LJS9502_basic

You are the expert

inb4 telling me to go outside, you don't listen to me etc etc

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]More insecurities labavo? You do seem to have an agenda.Labavo

Churches don't share one large mentality that blankets their entire population.Wasdie

[QUOTE="Wasdie"]Churches don't share one large mentality that blankets their entire population.Labavo

You may then want to actually say that in your original post to clarify. It's really easy to make sweeping statement.

The worst part is that the church seems to care more about protecting its reputation than admitting to their faults.

Labavo

[QUOTE="Labavo"]

The worst part is that the church seems to care more about protecting its reputation than admitting to their faults.

kuraimen

This isn't true.

[QUOTE="Labavo"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]More insecurities labavo? You do seem to have an agenda.LJS9502_basic

[QUOTE="kuraimen"][QUOTE="Labavo"]

The worst part is that the church seems to care more about protecting its reputation than admitting to their faults.

Ilovegames1992

This isn't true.

[QUOTE="kuraimen"][QUOTE="Labavo"]

The worst part is that the church seems to care more about protecting its reputation than admitting to their faults.

Ilovegames1992

This isn't true.

I don't think i can even blame the church for people's stupidity.

To be fair though if i had HIV, i'd probably want to die as soon as i could and get it over with.

You may then want to actually say that in your original post to clarify. It's really easy to make sweeping statement.

Wasdie

[QUOTE="Ilovegames1992"]

[QUOTE="kuraimen"] That is obvious, the Church is an institution seeking power, they care about their principles as much as the head of scientology believes in Xenu. They do it for the money and for control. If you want a christian institution that really wants to help and have their feet set on the ground look at the Theology of Liberation.kuraimen

This isn't true.

Making the church out to be a power hungry institution. The Church has its heart in the right place as far as i'm concerned. And they have done quite a lot of good for the world. Just a lot of corruption is all.

Sounds like somebody hates Christianity....

[QUOTE="Ilovegames1992"]

I don't think i can even blame the church for people's stupidity.

To be fair though if i had HIV, i'd probably want to die as soon as i could and get it over with.

musicalmac

Would you want to live through having it? Braver man than i.

Why even reply if you don't like the thread?El3ctrosisV2

That is obvious, the Church is an institution seeking power, they care about their principles as much as the head of scientology believes in Xenu. They do it for the money and for control. If you want a christian institution that really wants to help and have their feet set on the ground look at the Theology of Liberation.kuraimen

Would you want to live through having it? Braver man than i.

Ilovegames1992

To be fair though if i had HIV, i'd probably want to die as soon as i could and get it over with.Ilovegames1992

That's pretty rigorous. From what I understand, people who have HIV can live fairly long and decent lives with the right medication.

[QUOTE="musicalmac"][QUOTE="Ilovegames1992"]

I don't think i can even blame the church for people's stupidity.

To be fair though if i had HIV, i'd probably want to die as soon as i could and get it over with.

Ilovegames1992

Would you want to live through having it? Braver man than i.

[QUOTE="kuraimen"][QUOTE="Ilovegames1992"]

This isn't true.

Ilovegames1992

Making the church out to be a power hungry institution. The Church has its heart in the right place as far as i'm concerned. And they have done quite a lot of good for the world. Just a lot of corruption is all.

God's not real and stuff.

[QUOTE="Ilovegames1992"]

[QUOTE="kuraimen"] What isn't true?kuraimen

Making the church out to be a power hungry institution. The Church has its heart in the right place as far as i'm concerned. And they have done quite a lot of good for the world. Just a lot of corruption is all.

[QUOTE="kuraimen"] That is obvious, the Church is an institution seeking power, they care about their principles as much as the head of scientology believes in Xenu. They do it for the money and for control. If you want a christian institution that really wants to help and have their feet set on the ground look at the Theology of Liberation.musicalmac

God's not real and stuff.

[QUOTE="musicalmac"][QUOTE="kuraimen"] That is obvious, the Church is an institution seeking power, they care about their principles as much as the head of scientology believes in Xenu. They do it for the money and for control. If you want a christian institution that really wants to help and have their feet set on the ground look at the Theology of Liberation.kuraimen

I'm talking about the Church as an institution not as Jesus intended.kuraimen

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="El3ctrosisV2"] To be fair, you have got a pretty patronising attitude. Why even reply if you don't like the thread?Labavo

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="Labavo"] God's not real and stuff.Labavo

:lol:

Its official: you are the worst troll in existence

God's not real and stuff.

What an eye opener. Thanks tc!

[QUOTE="kuraimen"][QUOTE="Ilovegames1992"]

Making the church out to be a power hungry institution. The Church has its heart in the right place as far as i'm concerned. And they have done quite a lot of good for the world. Just a lot of corruption is all.

LJS9502_basic

Well you could say the Theology of Liberation goes against any Church institution that wastes a lot of time on trivialities like condom usage and gay marriage, which are a lot. They in part try to focus on the important things like suffering and poverty.

[QUOTE="Labavo"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]Oh? Please enlighten us all with your proof and stuff.LJS9502_basic

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="kuraimen"] Well if you look at the Church's history it is hard to argue it wasn't an institution to excerpt control and power. In the Middle Ages they practically called all the shots and killed those who didn't agree with them. Now they are less prominent of course but when they spend so much time focusing on stuff like preventing people to use condoms in Africa over the real issues like people dying in poverty and starvation there then I can't really take them seriously. I mean you gotta ask yourself, what would someone like Jesus do? (yeah I know that's kind of a meme) would he focus on the condoms at all or will he be trying to help the people's suffering? At least those guys from the Theology of Liberation understood this and tried to be consequent with their religious faith. Of course I'm not saying there's no valuable people within the Church that really want to help but I don't think the head of the Church has the best intentions at hand.kuraimen

Well you could say the Theology of Liberation goes against any Church institution that wastes a lot of time on trivialities like condom usage and gay marriage, which are a lot. They in part try to focus on the important things like suffering and poverty.