Church Tells HIV Patients To Stop Treatment. At Least 6 Die As a Result.

[QUOTE="kuraimen"] I just quoted a source where the term is used as I intended :|musicalmac

Do people with HIV still have sex?AussieePet

[QUOTE="AussieePet"][QUOTE="thegerg"] That's the main way that it spreads, dummy.almasdeathchild

Do people with HIV still have sex?AussieePet

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[QUOTE="AussieePet"] I meant if they know they have it and both people have HIV AussieePet

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]Your opinions you mean?LordQuorthon

It's a fact until proven otherwise. That is how logic works and that is why faith has nothing to do with logic. That doesn't make faith inherently good or bad, it just happens to walk an entirely different path that is not related to logic.

What really amazes me about believers is that they are almost physically unable to be content with their faith. They have to use broken logic to go to the Internet and "prove" non-believers that their illogical beliefs are true. I say that's just doubt... And when it comes to faith, doubt is understandable; just keep it to yourself and let other people be.

[QUOTE="AussieePet"][QUOTE="almasdeathchild"]im not saying they use condoms but they probably use condoms

almasdeathchild

Ok so whats the point of the condom then? AussieePet

There are slightly different strains of HIV. If you already have one, getting infected with another one will make the disease far less manageable.

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[QUOTE="AussieePet"] Ok so whats the point of the condom then? AussieePet

It's not a fact that something does or not exist due to opinion. Science answers how the natural world developed and works. A supernatural being is not of the natural world. So stating that because we humans cannot find at this time more out than we are familiar with does not actually say anything to the logicality of what may or may not exist. You cannot take the limitations of humans and assume we know everything.LJS9502_basic

You know, I would have taken the old Hegelian "God exists because men created it in their minds" over all that nonsense.

Well then if you need that I rephrase my statement I was talking about Christian institutions in general... kuraimen

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[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"] Whether or not Zeus exists is not dependent on your beliefs....LJS9502_basic

No. It depends on whether he exists or not and, until he shows his face on TV and tells us all about how great it was to pork his sister or we see him rocking arenas around the world with his mad guitar skills, it is a fact that he doesn't exist.

[QUOTE="AussieePet"]Ok so whats the point of the condom then? LordQuorthon

There are slightly different strains of HIV. If you already have one, getting infected with another one will make the disease far less manageable.

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"] It's not a fact that something does or not exist due to opinion. Science answers how the natural world developed and works. A supernatural being is not of the natural world. So stating that because we humans cannot find at this time more out than we are familiar with does not actually say anything to the logicality of what may or may not exist. You cannot take the limitations of humans and assume we know everything.LordQuorthon

You know, I would have taken the old Hegelian "God exists because men created it in their minds" over all that nonsense.

[QUOTE="AussieePet"][QUOTE="almasdeathchild"]other std's and sti's are you really this dense?

almasdeathchild

So what happens if two people With HIV have sex ?AussieePet

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="LordQuorthon"]

No. It depends on whether he exists or not and, until he shows his face on TV and tells us all about how great it was to pork his sister or we see him rocking arenas around the world with his mad guitar skills, it is a fact that he doesn't exist.

Labavo

OH well thats makes sense, thanks for telling me :)! AussieePet

Also, AIDS is an immune deficiency. In fact, that's all there is to it. You don't technically die of AIDS, you die because AIDS makes your immune system weak and something as relatively simple as a mild case of pneuomonia can get you killed. Most STDs can be cured rather easily, but having AIDS and any other STD (or any other disease for that matter) is not exactly a great scenario.

[QUOTE="kuraimen"]Well then if you need that I rephrase my statement I was talking about Christian institutions in general... musicalmac

There's no one to blame but the people in this situation. All the people in Youtube comments calling for this to be outlawed, what are you trying to outlaw? Freedom of speech, religion? Think about what you say.

[QUOTE="Labavo"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"] Your opinions you mean? I can't take that as proof dude. I mean I can think you're an overweight 40 year old virgin in mom's basement. I have no proof any of that is true. But since I have no proof it isn't....using your logic.....I'm dead on.LJS9502_basic

Maybe they are interested in saving the environment. Less people, less global warming. It's an incovenient truth.

You know there is something wrong when people would rather listen to a priest than a doctor who actually knows what he is talking about.

[QUOTE="Labavo"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"] Your opinions you mean? I can't take that as proof dude. I mean I can think you're an overweight 40 year old virgin in mom's basement. I have no proof any of that is true. But since I have no proof it isn't....using your logic.....I'm dead on.LJS9502_basic

He's not mad he is just deluded and been brainwashed in to believing theres a man with a beard who lives in the clouds since he was a little boy. He believes what hs parents have told him to believe no doubt and as his parents have never dared question it and give it some real thought he has not either because if he did his parents would probably disown him or something less but equally as harsh.

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[QUOTE="Labavo"] Yeah, but none of that changes the fact that you mad. Bro.Labavo

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]

[QUOTE="Labavo"] Yeah, but none of that changes the fact that you mad. Bro.PresidentLogan

He's not mad he is just deluded and been brainwashed in to believing theres a man with a beard who lives in the clouds since he was a little boy. He believes what hs parents have told him to believe no doubt and as his parents have never dared question it and give it some real thought he has not either because if he did his parents would probably disown him or something less but equally as harsh.

There are so many christian institutions like that that I don't see generalizing as completely inaccurate.kuraimen

Although I also mentioned the Theology of Liberation which is also a christian institution as a counter example so I didn't think it would get misunderstood. I use that term all the time while colloquially speaking and people normally understand what I mean. That doesn't mean I think all christians or all chiristian institutions are bad but at least the biggest and most vocal ones are IMO.kuraimen

[QUOTE="kuraimen"]There are so many christian institutions like that that I don't see generalizing as completely inaccurate.musicalmac

Although I also mentioned the Theology of Liberation which is also a christian institution as a counter example so I didn't think it would get misunderstood. I use that term all the time while colloquially speaking and people normally understand what I mean. That doesn't mean I think all christians or all chiristian institutions are bad but at least the biggest and most vocal ones are IMO.kuraimen

Actually is not that much based on personal experiences, I'm looking more into the history of institutionalized religion specifically christianity in this case. You gotta admit that doesn't put religion in a good light. But I guess we would have to agree to disagree.

Good way to cut down the rising population.

[QUOTE="musicalmac"][QUOTE="kuraimen"]There are so many christian institutions like that that I don't see generalizing as completely inaccurate.kuraimen

Although I also mentioned the Theology of Liberation which is also a christian institution as a counter example so I didn't think it would get misunderstood. I use that term all the time while colloquially speaking and people normally understand what I mean. That doesn't mean I think all christians or all chiristian institutions are bad but at least the biggest and most vocal ones are IMO.kuraimen

Actually is not that much based on personal experiences, I'm looking more into the history of institutionalized religion specifically christianity in this case. You gotta admit that doesn't put religion in a good light. But I guess we would have to agree to disagree.

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]It doesn't put religion....or some individuals that practiced some religion? They are not the same thing.Labavo

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[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]It doesn't put religion....or some individuals that practiced some religion? They are not the same thing.LJS9502_basic

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="Labavo"] No one is going to have a serious debate with you while you have the emo queer skunk in your signature.

Labavo

Enjoy the fight but don't knock the Cure.

Enjoy the fight but don't knock the Cure.

tenaka2

Enjoy the fight but don't knock the Cure.

tenaka2

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Enjoy the fight but don't knock the Cure.

LJS9502_basic

If anything, there's not enough knocking of the Cure.

If anything, there's not enough knocking of the Cure.

Ilovegames1992

It's not but there's no point in arguing about it.

[QUOTE="Ilovegames1992"]

If anything, there's not enough knocking of the Cure.

LJS9502_basic

[QUOTE="tenaka2"]

Enjoy the fight but don't knock the Cure.

LJS9502_basic

Casual fan, the cure were played a lot in the clubs I went to as a teenager/early twenties.

It's not but there's no point in arguing about it.

Ilovegames1992

Yet another example of organised religion making up the minds of people who can't think for themselves I see.

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="tenaka2"]

Enjoy the fight but don't knock the Cure.

tenaka2

Casual fan, the cure were played a lot in the clubs I went to as a teenager/early twenties.

Yet another example of organised religion making up the minds of people who can't think for themselves I see.

MissLibrarian

That's the people's fault surely?

[QUOTE="MissLibrarian"]

Yet another example of organised religion making up the minds of people who can't think for themselves I see.

Ilovegames1992

That's the people's fault surely?