Crazy thought i just had...(religion)

This just occured to me.In the end, wouldnt natural selection eventually get rid of religion?What i mean is, as we evolve as a species, our knowledge of the world will grow, in turn making the need for religious security obsolete.In the mean while the religious and superstitious will be off killing themselves in mass suicides, holy wars, and all together be rejected by the more intelligent society.In the end what some theists(Evolution through natural selection) hate most might be the one thing that ends up getting rid of them.

Just a thought.

I think so yes.

(lol I never throught I would trigger a topic)

When i see a whale give birth to a cow. I'll beleive you.

Also the only religion causing Holy wars is Radical Islam.

You forget one thing, natural selection is a theory, just an idea believed by people...

And no matter how many people believe it to be true, wont ever make it

When i see a whale give birth to a cow. I'll beleive you.

123625

No offense, but we've explained to you a million times that evolution doesnt work that way.

You forget one thing, natural selection is a theory, just an idea believed by people...

And no matter how many people believe it to be true, wont ever make it

SonKev

Evolution is backed up by loads of evidence, go do some research.

[QUOTE="123625"]

When i see a whale give birth to a cow. I'll beleive you.

xxDustmanxx

No offense, but we've explained to you a million times that evolution doesnt work that way.

I know, just mentioning i'll never beleive you untill i see an animal of somekind change into another type of animal.

ATheism does kill, millions and millions

http://www.bloggingtories.ca/forums/topic4445.html

[QUOTE="SonKev"]

You forget one thing, natural selection is a theory, just an idea believed by people...

And no matter how many people believe it to be true, wont ever make it

xxDustmanxx

Evolution is backed up by loads of evidence, go do some research.

Its not a scientific fact though.

[QUOTE="xxDustmanxx"][QUOTE="SonKev"]

You forget one thing, natural selection is a theory, just an idea believed by people...

And no matter how many people believe it to be true, wont ever make it

123625

Evolution is backed up by loads of evidence, go do some research.

Its not a scientific fact though.

Some people will never understand this, and will argue and argue,

They are afraid of the thought of God being real

[QUOTE="xxDustmanxx"][QUOTE="SonKev"]

You forget one thing, natural selection is a theory, just an idea believed by people...

And no matter how many people believe it to be true, wont ever make it

123625

Evolution is backed up by loads of evidence, go do some research.

Its not a scientific fact though.

Nothing in science is ever proven to be 100% fact,weve explained this to you.

Also a whale will never give birth to a cow, thats impossible.

VERY, Very good read:

A look at both sides of Evolution, and creationism

http://www.clarifyingchristianity.com/creation.shtml

[QUOTE="123625"][QUOTE="xxDustmanxx"][QUOTE="SonKev"]

You forget one thing, natural selection is a theory, just an idea believed by people...

And no matter how many people believe it to be true, wont ever make it

SonKev

Evolution is backed up by loads of evidence, go do some research.

Its not a scientific fact though.

Some people will never understand this, and will argue and argue,

They are afraid of the thought of God being real

Define me the meaning of science.

As i have it, it means this.

To Observe and explain.

So far evolution is just explanation with little of it observed.

And i agree they are afraid of god being real.

[QUOTE="123625"][QUOTE="xxDustmanxx"][QUOTE="SonKev"]

You forget one thing, natural selection is a theory, just an idea believed by people...

And no matter how many people believe it to be true, wont ever make it

xxDustmanxx

Evolution is backed up by loads of evidence, go do some research.

Its not a scientific fact though.

Nothing in science is ever proven to be 100% fact,weve explained this to you.

Also a whale will never give birth to a cow, thats impossible.

I know you have.

[QUOTE="123625"][QUOTE="xxDustmanxx"][QUOTE="SonKev"]

You forget one thing, natural selection is a theory, just an idea believed by people...

And no matter how many people believe it to be true, wont ever make it

SonKev

Evolution is backed up by loads of evidence, go do some research.

Its not a scientific fact though.

Some people will never understand this, and will argue and argue,

They are afraid of the thought of God being real

Um, no.If you proved to me that a Deity existed then i would change my mind after extensive investigation,im not at all afraid of the truth.

[QUOTE="123625"][QUOTE="xxDustmanxx"][QUOTE="SonKev"]

You forget one thing, natural selection is a theory, just an idea believed by people...

And no matter how many people believe it to be true, wont ever make it

xxDustmanxx

Evolution is backed up by loads of evidence, go do some research.

Its not a scientific fact though.

Nothing in science is ever proven to be 100% fact,weve explained this to you.

Also a whale will never give birth to a cow, thats impossible.

So you just admited, its still a theory and can never be proven

Scientific laws are absolute

[QUOTE="xxDustmanxx"][QUOTE="123625"][QUOTE="xxDustmanxx"][QUOTE="SonKev"]

You forget one thing, natural selection is a theory, just an idea believed by people...

And no matter how many people believe it to be true, wont ever make it

SonKev

Evolution is backed up by loads of evidence, go do some research.

Its not a scientific fact though.

Nothing in science is ever proven to be 100% fact,weve explained this to you.

Also a whale will never give birth to a cow, thats impossible.

So you just admited, its still a theory and can never be proven

Scientific laws are absolute

Again, nothing in science can be 100% proven, nonetheless, evolution is accepted as fact by the vast majority of the scientific community.

[QUOTE="SonKev"][QUOTE="123625"][QUOTE="xxDustmanxx"][QUOTE="SonKev"]

You forget one thing, natural selection is a theory, just an idea believed by people...

And no matter how many people believe it to be true, wont ever make it

123625

Evolution is backed up by loads of evidence, go do some research.

Its not a scientific fact though.

Some people will never understand this, and will argue and argue,

They are afraid of the thought of God being real

Define me the meaning of science.

As i have it, it means this.

To Observe and explain.

So far evolution is just explanation with little of it observed.

And i agree they are afraid of god being real.

So very true, nice

[QUOTE="SonKev"][QUOTE="xxDustmanxx"][QUOTE="123625"][QUOTE="xxDustmanxx"][QUOTE="SonKev"]

You forget one thing, natural selection is a theory, just an idea believed by people...

And no matter how many people believe it to be true, wont ever make it

xxDustmanxx

Evolution is backed up by loads of evidence, go do some research.

Its not a scientific fact though.

Nothing in science is ever proven to be 100% fact,weve explained this to you.

Also a whale will never give birth to a cow, thats impossible.

So you just admited, its still a theory and can never be proven

Scientific laws are absolute

Again, nothing in science can be 100% proven, nonetheless, evolution is accepted as fact by the vast majority of the scientific community.

Doesnt make it fact. Its like me saying that 90% of the world accepts god exists, does that make it fact?

[QUOTE="SonKev"][QUOTE="xxDustmanxx"][QUOTE="123625"][QUOTE="xxDustmanxx"][QUOTE="SonKev"]

You forget one thing, natural selection is a theory, just an idea believed by people...

And no matter how many people believe it to be true, wont ever make it

xxDustmanxx

Evolution is backed up by loads of evidence, go do some research.

Its not a scientific fact though.

Nothing in science is ever proven to be 100% fact,weve explained this to you.

Also a whale will never give birth to a cow, thats impossible.

So you just admited, its still a theory and can never be proven

Scientific laws are absolute

Again, nothing in science can be 100% proven, nonetheless, evolution is accepted as fact by the vast majority of the scientific community.

Why would one be so desperate to accept a theory as fact?

A majority of the scientific community? So its kinda like, if most jumped off the bridge, everyone else should too...

[QUOTE="123625"][QUOTE="SonKev"][QUOTE="123625"][QUOTE="xxDustmanxx"][QUOTE="SonKev"]

You forget one thing, natural selection is a theory, just an idea believed by people...

And no matter how many people believe it to be true, wont ever make it

SonKev

Evolution is backed up by loads of evidence, go do some research.

Its not a scientific fact though.

Some people will never understand this, and will argue and argue,

They are afraid of the thought of God being real

Define me the meaning of science.

As i have it, it means this.

To Observe and explain.

So far evolution is just explanation with little of it observed.

And i agree they are afraid of god being real.

So very true, nice

How hasnt it been observed?IT HAS LOADS OF EVIDENCE TO BACK IT UP.Do you understand this?Are you guys ignoring my post, or do i need to start dropping links?

[QUOTE="SonKev"][QUOTE="123625"][QUOTE="SonKev"][QUOTE="123625"][QUOTE="xxDustmanxx"][QUOTE="SonKev"]

You forget one thing, natural selection is a theory, just an idea believed by people...

And no matter how many people believe it to be true, wont ever make it

xxDustmanxx

Evolution is backed up by loads of evidence, go do some research.

Its not a scientific fact though.

Some people will never understand this, and will argue and argue,

They are afraid of the thought of God being real

Define me the meaning of science.

As i have it, it means this.

To Observe and explain.

So far evolution is just explanation with little of it observed.

And i agree they are afraid of god being real.

So very true, nice

How hasnt it been observed?IT HAS LOADS OF EVIDENCE TO BACK IT UP.Do you understand this?Are you guys ignoring my post, or do i need to start dropping links?

YET WE HAVE NEVER OBSERVED IT! WE HAVE never seen another animal give birth to another type of mutated creature. Evolution is not fact stop trying to pass it off as one.

Sorry we do know animals give birth to mutates, but that mutation is not good (most if not 99% of the time) and that good mutation has never been passed on to the mutated's off spring.

When i see a whale give birth to a cow. I'll beleive you.

Also the only religion causing Holy wars is Radical Islam.

123625

that is really racist. study islam and you will find it to be a beautyful religion. please don't insult islam, ask god for forgiveness before its too late

Youg guys don't seem to understand the definition of scientific theory... It's not just some wild guess or something.gobo212

Scientific theory is an explanation on how something could work.

Scientific fact is something that has been observed.

[QUOTE="123625"]

When i see a whale give birth to a cow. I'll beleive you.

Also the only religion causing Holy wars is Radical Islam.

hishkarnib

that is really racist. study islam and you will find it to be a beautyful religion. please don't insult islam, ask god for forgiveness before its too late

You didnt read my post did you. I SAID RADICAL ISLAM!

[QUOTE="SonKev"][QUOTE="123625"][QUOTE="SonKev"][QUOTE="123625"][QUOTE="xxDustmanxx"][QUOTE="SonKev"]

You forget one thing, natural selection is a theory, just an idea believed by people...

And no matter how many people believe it to be true, wont ever make it

xxDustmanxx

Evolution is backed up by loads of evidence, go do some research.

Its not a scientific fact though.

Some people will never understand this, and will argue and argue,

They are afraid of the thought of God being real

Define me the meaning of science.

As i have it, it means this.

To Observe and explain.

So far evolution is just explanation with little of it observed.

And i agree they are afraid of god being real.

So very true, nice

How hasnt it been observed?IT HAS LOADS OF EVIDENCE TO BACK IT UP.Do you understand this?Are you guys ignoring my post, or do i need to start dropping links?

We have never been able to reproduce macroevolution.

Microevolution is another story. (i hope im not mixing these 2 up...lol)

[QUOTE="xxDustmanxx"][QUOTE="SonKev"][QUOTE="123625"][QUOTE="SonKev"][QUOTE="123625"][QUOTE="xxDustmanxx"][QUOTE="SonKev"]

You forget one thing, natural selection is a theory, just an idea believed by people...

And no matter how many people believe it to be true, wont ever make it

123625

Evolution is backed up by loads of evidence, go do some research.

Its not a scientific fact though.

Some people will never understand this, and will argue and argue,

They are afraid of the thought of God being real

Define me the meaning of science.

As i have it, it means this.

To Observe and explain.

So far evolution is just explanation with little of it observed.

And i agree they are afraid of god being real.

So very true, nice

How hasnt it been observed?IT HAS LOADS OF EVIDENCE TO BACK IT UP.Do you understand this?Are you guys ignoring my post, or do i need to start dropping links?

YET WE HAVE NEVER OBSERVED IT! WE HAVE never seen another animal give birth to another type of mutated creature. Evolution is not fact stop trying to pass it off as one.

Um, transitional fossils, did those slip your mind?

what do you mean by that?hishkarnib

You don't know the difference between radical and supposebly good islam?

Radicals are the ones who are doing terrorist attacks and are attacking in the name of Allah.

Peaceful do the exact oppisite.

[QUOTE="gobo212"]Youg guys don't seem to understand the definition of scientific theory... It's not just some wild guess or something.123625

Scientific theory is an explanation on how something could work.

Scientific fact is something that has been observed.

You are sort of right. Theories take all those observed facts and put them together into a cohesive model that is logical, testable and can make predictions.

[QUOTE="123625"][QUOTE="xxDustmanxx"][QUOTE="SonKev"][QUOTE="123625"][QUOTE="SonKev"][QUOTE="123625"][QUOTE="xxDustmanxx"][QUOTE="SonKev"]

You forget one thing, natural selection is a theory, just an idea believed by people...

And no matter how many people believe it to be true, wont ever make it

xxDustmanxx

Evolution is backed up by loads of evidence, go do some research.

Its not a scientific fact though.

Some people will never understand this, and will argue and argue,

They are afraid of the thought of God being real

Define me the meaning of science.

As i have it, it means this.

To Observe and explain.

So far evolution is just explanation with little of it observed.

And i agree they are afraid of god being real.

So very true, nice

How hasnt it been observed?IT HAS LOADS OF EVIDENCE TO BACK IT UP.Do you understand this?Are you guys ignoring my post, or do i need to start dropping links?

YET WE HAVE NEVER OBSERVED IT! WE HAVE never seen another animal give birth to another type of mutated creature. Evolution is not fact stop trying to pass it off as one.

Um, transitional fossils, did those slip your mind?

Are you talking about the missing links? There are none.

Carving and grinding on a monkey skull to make it look similar to a human skull doesnt count either...LOL

[QUOTE="123625"][QUOTE="xxDustmanxx"][QUOTE="SonKev"][QUOTE="123625"][QUOTE="SonKev"][QUOTE="123625"][QUOTE="xxDustmanxx"][QUOTE="SonKev"]

You forget one thing, natural selection is a theory, just an idea believed by people...

And no matter how many people believe it to be true, wont ever make it

xxDustmanxx

Evolution is backed up by loads of evidence, go do some research.

Its not a scientific fact though.

Some people will never understand this, and will argue and argue,

They are afraid of the thought of God being real

Define me the meaning of science.

As i have it, it means this.

To Observe and explain.

So far evolution is just explanation with little of it observed.

And i agree they are afraid of god being real.

So very true, nice

How hasnt it been observed?IT HAS LOADS OF EVIDENCE TO BACK IT UP.Do you understand this?Are you guys ignoring my post, or do i need to start dropping links?

YET WE HAVE NEVER OBSERVED IT! WE HAVE never seen another animal give birth to another type of mutated creature. Evolution is not fact stop trying to pass it off as one.

Um, transitional fossils, did those slip your mind?

Link, and tell me how many have we found exactly?

[QUOTE="123625"]

[QUOTE="gobo212"]Youg guys don't seem to understand the definition of scientific theory... It's not just some wild guess or something.gobo212

Scientific theory is an explanation on how something could work.

Scientific fact is something that has been observed.

You are sort of right. Theories take all those observed facts and put them together into a cohesive model that is logical, testable and can make predictions.

Sort of right? its the foundation of science it self.

Observe and Explain.

Not Explain then observe.

[QUOTE="hishkarnib"]what do you mean by that?123625

You don't know the difference between radical and supposebly good islam?

Radicals are the ones who are doing terrorist attacks and are attacking in the name of Allah.

Peaceful do the exact oppisite.

oh ok sorry about that forgive me if i offfended you. Many people in society are mistaken for being terrorists, the media is to be blamed. However, many kill innocent being which goes against the teaching of islam. The quran is Allah's (swt) true book,read it and you will be guided if you are confused. You never know when death will arrive, it may be too late

[QUOTE="123625"]

[QUOTE="hishkarnib"]what do you mean by that?hishkarnib

You don't know the difference between radical and supposebly good islam?

Radicals are the ones who are doing terrorist attacks and are attacking in the name of Allah.

Peaceful do the exact oppisite.

oh ok sorry about that forgive me if i offfended you. Many people in society are mistaken for being terrorists, the media is to be blamed. However, many kill innocent being which goes against the teaching of islam. The quran is Allah's (swt) true book,read it and you will be guided if you are confused. You never know when death will arrive, it may be too late

Actually i don't have to read you're book to be saved. Apparantly (according to your book) we follow the same god. And as such he will forgive me because he is all forgiving.

Link, and tell me how many have we found exactly?

http://talkorigins.org/faqs/faq-transitional.html

[QUOTE="hishkarnib"][QUOTE="123625"]

[QUOTE="hishkarnib"]what do you mean by that?123625

You don't know the difference between radical and supposebly good islam?

Radicals are the ones who are doing terrorist attacks and are attacking in the name of Allah.

Peaceful do the exact oppisite.

oh ok sorry about that forgive me if i offfended you. Many people in society are mistaken for being terrorists, the media is to be blamed. However, many kill innocent being which goes against the teaching of islam. The quran is Allah's (swt) true book,read it and you will be guided if you are confused. You never know when death will arrive, it may be too late

Actually i don't have to read you're book to be saved. Apparantly (according to your book) we follow the same god. And as such he will forgive me because he is all forgiving.

yes but you take jesus as a god as well, which is the most major sin in islam, associating another god with allah. This sin will never be forgiven, and you will spend eternity in hell if you die with this belief. If not however, yes you may enter paradise at a later stage, but you will go to hell for many many many years for not praying, fasting in ramadan, performing hajj and following the way of the prophet, but allah may forgive you for he is the all forgiving and his mercy prevails over his wrath. However, you will be placed in a lower heaven after painful torment. Just the sight of hell 1000 travelling years away will cause your eyeballs to pop out and burn. Besides, wouldn't you rather enter a higher heaven, have up to 70 wives, where there beauty is so amazing that you will spend 40 yrs of your life just praising their good looks?

Please, if you have any questions ask me i will gladly answer

xxDustmanxx

Link, and tell me how many have we found exactly?

http://talkorigins.org/faqs/faq-transitional.html

I really don't feel like reading an entire book please give me a link to a website showing all the transitional fossils in between different kinds.

[QUOTE="123625"][QUOTE="hishkarnib"][QUOTE="123625"]

[QUOTE="hishkarnib"]what do you mean by that?hishkarnib

You don't know the difference between radical and supposebly good islam?

Radicals are the ones who are doing terrorist attacks and are attacking in the name of Allah.

Peaceful do the exact oppisite.

oh ok sorry about that forgive me if i offfended you. Many people in society are mistaken for being terrorists, the media is to be blamed. However, many kill innocent being which goes against the teaching of islam. The quran is Allah's (swt) true book,read it and you will be guided if you are confused. You never know when death will arrive, it may be too late

Actually i don't have to read you're book to be saved. Apparantly (according to your book) we follow the same god. And as such he will forgive me because he is all forgiving.

yes but you take jesus as a god as well, which is the most major sin in islam, associating another god with allah. This sin will never be forgiven, and you will spend eternity in hell if you die with this belief. If not however, yes you may enter paradise at a later stage, but you will go to hell for many many many years for not praying, fasting in ramadan, performing hajj and following the way of the prophet, but allah may forgive you for he is the all forgiving and his mercy prevails over his wrath. However, you will be placed in a lower heaven after painful torment. Just the sight of hell 1000 travelling years away will cause your eyeballs to pop out and burn. Besides, wouldn't you rather enter a higher heaven, have up to 70 wives, where there beauty is so amazing that you will spend 40 yrs of your life just praising their good looks?

Please, if you have any questions ask me i will gladly answer

I hope your joking.

[QUOTE="xxDustmanxx"]

123625

Link, and tell me how many have we found exactly?

http://talkorigins.org/faqs/faq-transitional.html

I really don't feel like reading an entire book please give me a link to a website showing all the transitional fossils in between different kinds.

The links right there, if you dont want to read it then fine by me.But i would prfer that you do because i went through some trouble to post that link.

no i am not jokinghishkarnib

Why would i possibly ever want all that, that sounds rather shallow and self fulfilling if you ask me.

[QUOTE="123625"][QUOTE="hishkarnib"][QUOTE="123625"]

[QUOTE="hishkarnib"]what do you mean by that?hishkarnib

You don't know the difference between radical and supposebly good islam?

Radicals are the ones who are doing terrorist attacks and are attacking in the name of Allah.

Peaceful do the exact oppisite.

oh ok sorry about that forgive me if i offfended you. Many people in society are mistaken for being terrorists, the media is to be blamed. However, many kill innocent being which goes against the teaching of islam. The quran is Allah's (swt) true book,read it and you will be guided if you are confused. You never know when death will arrive, it may be too late

Actually i don't have to read you're book to be saved. Apparantly (according to your book) we follow the same god. And as such he will forgive me because he is all forgiving.

yes but you take jesus as a god as well, which is the most major sin in islam, associating another god with allah. This sin will never be forgiven, and you will spend eternity in hell if you die with this belief. If not however, yes you may enter paradise at a later stage, but you will go to hell for many many many years for not praying, fasting in ramadan, performing hajj and following the way of the prophet, but allah may forgive you for he is the all forgiving and his mercy prevails over his wrath. However, you will be placed in a lower heaven after painful torment. Just the sight of hell 1000 travelling years away will cause your eyeballs to pop out and burn. Besides, wouldn't you rather enter a higher heaven, have up to 70 wives, where there beauty is so amazing that you will spend 40 yrs of your life just praising their good looks?

Please, if you have any questions ask me i will gladly answer

Its not wives its virgins and i knew you might say something like that.

my Question to you is.

Why did your god Send the Torah and Bible to christians for them to corrupt it, i mean if Allah is god he should be able to protect his word the first 2 times no?

Also why did allah make it appear to the jews that Jesus had been crucifed, but instead raised him into heaven? This action resulted in christianity, was it a mistake by Allah?

[QUOTE="123625"][QUOTE="hishkarnib"][QUOTE="123625"]

[QUOTE="hishkarnib"]what do you mean by that?hishkarnib

You don't know the difference between radical and supposebly good islam?

Radicals are the ones who are doing terrorist attacks and are attacking in the name of Allah.

Peaceful do the exact oppisite.

oh ok sorry about that forgive me if i offfended you. Many people in society are mistaken for being terrorists, the media is to be blamed. However, many kill innocent being which goes against the teaching of islam. The quran is Allah's (swt) true book,read it and you will be guided if you are confused. You never know when death will arrive, it may be too late

Actually i don't have to read you're book to be saved. Apparantly (according to your book) we follow the same god. And as such he will forgive me because he is all forgiving.

yes but you take jesus as a god as well, which is the most major sin in islam, associating another god with allah. This sin will never be forgiven, and you will spend eternity in hell if you die with this belief. If not however, yes you may enter paradise at a later stage, but you will go to hell for many many many years for not praying, fasting in ramadan, performing hajj and following the way of the prophet, but allah may forgive you for he is the all forgiving and his mercy prevails over his wrath. However, you will be placed in a lower heaven after painful torment. Just the sight of hell 1000 travelling years away will cause your eyeballs to pop out and burn. Besides, wouldn't you rather enter a higher heaven, have up to 70 wives, where there beauty is so amazing that you will spend 40 yrs of your life just praising their good looks?

Please, if you have any questions ask me i will gladly answer

But what happens if Jesus Christ is the true God and allah isnt? Im not trying to offend you, but what will you think or do?

looks like this thread kind of exploded in your face Dustman. I don't agree that natural selection will eradicate religion simply because religion is a corner stone of mankind's social structure. It plays a big role in adaptation so it will survive.

Oh and I facepalmed when I read 13625 and SonKev's posts, seriously guys get your stuff straight. Good luck dealing with them.