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[QUOTE="123625"]Of course all forms of dating the earth are 100% realiable? Velocitas8
No, but radiocarbon dating is accurate enough for us to know the Earth is a hell of a lot older than 10,000 years :|
Yes, it can be factually proven.."it's just theory" doesn't work here.
Have we observed the age of the world, from start to now? If not it cannot be considered 100% fact, don't tell me otherwise! And tell me how exactly Radiocardon is so accurate.
All radiometric dating methods are based on assumptions about events that happened in the past. If the assumptions are accepted as true (as is typically done in the evolutionary dating processes), results can be biased toward a desired age. In the reported ages given in textbooks and other journals, these evolutionary assumptions have not been questioned, while results inconsistent with long ages have been censored. When the assumptions were evaluated and shown faulty, the results supported the biblical account of a global Flood and young earth. Christians should not be afraid of radiometric dating methods. Carbon-14 dating is really the friend of Christians, and it supports a young earth.
The RATE scientists are convinced that the popular idea attributed to geologist Charles Lyell from nearly two centuries ago, "The present is the key to the past," is simply not valid for an earth history of millions or billions of years. An alternative interpretation of the carbon-14 data is that the earth experienced a global flood catastrophe which laid down most of the rock strata and fossils.... Whatever the source of the carbon-14, its presence in nearly every sample tested worldwide is a strong challenge to an ancient age. Carbon-14 data is now firmly on the side of the young-earth view of history.
You got to use your atheism site. my turn
(source: http://www.answersingenesis.org/articles/nab/does-c14-disprove-the-bible)
[QUOTE="Velocitas8"][QUOTE="123625"]Of course all forms of dating the earth are 100% realiable? 123625
No, but radiocarbon dating is accurate enough for us to know the Earth is a hell of a lot older than 10,000 years :|
Yes, it can be factually proven.."it's just theory" doesn't work here.
Have we observed the age of the world, from start to now? If not it cannot be considered 100% fact, don't tell me otherwise! And tell me how exactly Radiocardon is so accurate.
You are blind, ignorant and stupid. Face facts here, don't dodge them by saying the equiptments faulty or that its unreliable. Radio Carbon is accurate because it clearly shows the world is 5 billion years older than you're stupid 10,000 year old world theory. 5 billion is too large number to be considered as a math error.
[QUOTE="123625"][QUOTE="jking197"][QUOTE="123625"][QUOTE="jking197"][QUOTE="123625"][QUOTE="jking197"][QUOTE="123625"][QUOTE="hishkarnib"]the bible was changed by ignorant people in the past, the quran is the only book left protected by allahjking197
Do not dare insult my book of god, i have been polite with you.
Lol, Don't take is personally. Like I said you Christians can surely dish it out, but once you are questioned you go ape. It is fact, the bible was not written by god, the bible once said the Earth was created in 12 days, 10,000 years ago (Which is impossible) and It has recently been revised (Again) to seem less violent.
You dont understand when someone say's ignorant things about your beleif. The Bible was inspired by god also, we know he didn't write it. But the holy spirit was within the people who did. How is it impossible for a GOD to create the earth in 7 days? He is go he can do whatever he wants, if he is all powerful!
You're also saying ignorant things about my beliefs, its a two way street. You can dish it out but you can't take it. Its not the 7 days thing, it's the 10,000 year old thing. We have proven the world is a few BILLION years old.
How am i being ignorant? I am using science against science, not my own beleifs. I am taking it extremely well to.
You seem to regard evolution as a fact yet we have never seen it first hand!
How have you proven the world is Billions of years old? No one was around to document it all? so by scientific perspective thats just a theory to.
Arghh stop going in circles! Do you want a friggen repeat? Have you ever seen god or Jesus? That's wat ur asking me about evolution. The Earth is billions of years old, it's proven by light, carbon-dating, dinosaurs, etc. It's not a theory, it's fact. You're being ignorant because you're brainwashed and can't take anything wrong about your religion. It's full of holes.
No im not being ignorant. By a technical scientific perspective the age of the earth is just theory. As we have not observed the actual age. While a good theory, it still remains theory.
I have not seen Jesus or god, but i beleive in them and have faith in them.
Just like you have faith in Evolution! Despite the fact you have not seen it!
Prove god, we can prove the world is 5 billion years old through carbon dating, we can prove evolution through bone structures and carbon dating, we can prove the bible is revised to seem not as violent because of older copies. So give me one peice of scientific evidence that shows me there is a god.
I can't prove god to You! Its something you have to have faith on!
Nothing in science is regarded as 100% fact (as i have been told)
You have faith that evolution is true yet It has never been seen!
All beleifs recquire FAITH!
And your saying show me a sicentific proof of god, yet you cannot except by science Evolution is THEORY!
[QUOTE="jking197"][QUOTE="123625"][QUOTE="jking197"][QUOTE="123625"][QUOTE="jking197"][QUOTE="123625"][QUOTE="jking197"][QUOTE="123625"][QUOTE="hishkarnib"]the bible was changed by ignorant people in the past, the quran is the only book left protected by allah123625
Do not dare insult my book of god, i have been polite with you.
Lol, Don't take is personally. Like I said you Christians can surely dish it out, but once you are questioned you go ape. It is fact, the bible was not written by god, the bible once said the Earth was created in 12 days, 10,000 years ago (Which is impossible) and It has recently been revised (Again) to seem less violent.
You dont understand when someone say's ignorant things about your beleif. The Bible was inspired by god also, we know he didn't write it. But the holy spirit was within the people who did. How is it impossible for a GOD to create the earth in 7 days? He is go he can do whatever he wants, if he is all powerful!
You're also saying ignorant things about my beliefs, its a two way street. You can dish it out but you can't take it. Its not the 7 days thing, it's the 10,000 year old thing. We have proven the world is a few BILLION years old.
How am i being ignorant? I am using science against science, not my own beleifs. I am taking it extremely well to.
You seem to regard evolution as a fact yet we have never seen it first hand!
How have you proven the world is Billions of years old? No one was around to document it all? so by scientific perspective thats just a theory to.
Arghh stop going in circles! Do you want a friggen repeat? Have you ever seen god or Jesus? That's wat ur asking me about evolution. The Earth is billions of years old, it's proven by light, carbon-dating, dinosaurs, etc. It's not a theory, it's fact. You're being ignorant because you're brainwashed and can't take anything wrong about your religion. It's full of holes.
No im not being ignorant. By a technical scientific perspective the age of the earth is just theory. As we have not observed the actual age. While a good theory, it still remains theory.
I have not seen Jesus or god, but i beleive in them and have faith in them.
Just like you have faith in Evolution! Despite the fact you have not seen it!
Prove god, we can prove the world is 5 billion years old through carbon dating, we can prove evolution through bone structures and carbon dating, we can prove the bible is revised to seem not as violent because of older copies. So give me one peice of scientific evidence that shows me there is a god.
I can't prove god to You! Its something you have to have faith on!
Nothing in science is regarded as 100% fact (as i have been told)
You have faith that evolution is true yet It has never been seen!
All beleifs recquire FAITH!
And your saying show me a sicentific proof of god, yet you cannot except by science Evolution is THEORY!
STOP REPEATING YOUSELF MAN! It Is proven by bone structures and dating, jesus! Get a grip on reality. You didn't have a leap of faith, you were brainwashed since birth.
[QUOTE="123625"][QUOTE="Velocitas8"][QUOTE="123625"]Of course all forms of dating the earth are 100% realiable? jking197
No, but radiocarbon dating is accurate enough for us to know the Earth is a hell of a lot older than 10,000 years :|
Yes, it can be factually proven.."it's just theory" doesn't work here.
Have we observed the age of the world, from start to now? If not it cannot be considered 100% fact, don't tell me otherwise! And tell me how exactly Radiocardon is so accurate.
You are blind, ignorant and stupid. Face facts here, don't dodge them by saying the equiptments faulty or that its unreliable. Radio Carbon is accurate because it clearly shows the world is 5 billion years older than you're stupid 10,000 year old world theory. 5 billion is a large number to be considered as a math error/
I am about to give up here.
Fact = something been seen, witnessed or observed! (same with scientific)
Theory = Explanation on how a fact works.
Without the fact you have no theory. ONLY BELEIF, that is true!
And you know what is considered a math error. Some how evolution can cause positive mutations and have them passed on to the off spring.
[QUOTE="domatron23"][QUOTE="SonKev"][QUOTE="domatron23"][QUOTE="123625"]All i here evolutionist say is that "we have evidence!' Ya we do. I even presented you a small fraction of it earlier. Now i will ask you a simple question so simple that even you can answer it.Science's main princible is to observe fact and find out how it works no? Define fact for me. Is gravity a fact? Because if I felt so inclined I could offer all kinds of supernatural non-falsifiable alternatives for why we tend to stick to the ground.
Is Evolution Fact or scientific theory? It's a scientific theory just like gravity.
Im just saying that evolution has to come up with some form of credible begining, then i might consider accepting it.
A begining defines an end.
123625
Wow man... gravity is a scientific law, man....
ahhh, they really need to offer both creationism and evolutionism in school, so they dont brainwash these little people so they are so hardheaded and dont know and wont accept anything other then what theyve been drilled in the head with in HS and college...
they are told CREATIONISM IS FOR THE WEAK AND STUPID MINDED, evolution is for smart people who are scientific,
wait, they forgot to tell them evolution isnt even proven..
Theory
Oh and if evolution hasn't been proven then please by all means examine the evidence and explain why.
Stop trying to tell us Evolution is Fact. It has not been observed therefore by science it cannot be considered Fact!
Evolution is theory.
When did I say evolution was a fact? I'm pretty sure I have been maintaining that it is a scientific theory. You seem to be implying by your usage of the word theory that it is a guess or an opinion, it's not. It's scientific theory.
[QUOTE="123625"][QUOTE="jking197"][QUOTE="123625"][QUOTE="jking197"][QUOTE="123625"][QUOTE="jking197"][QUOTE="123625"][QUOTE="jking197"][QUOTE="123625"][QUOTE="hishkarnib"]the bible was changed by ignorant people in the past, the quran is the only book left protected by allahjking197
Do not dare insult my book of god, i have been polite with you.
Lol, Don't take is personally. Like I said you Christians can surely dish it out, but once you are questioned you go ape. It is fact, the bible was not written by god, the bible once said the Earth was created in 12 days, 10,000 years ago (Which is impossible) and It has recently been revised (Again) to seem less violent.
You dont understand when someone say's ignorant things about your beleif. The Bible was inspired by god also, we know he didn't write it. But the holy spirit was within the people who did. How is it impossible for a GOD to create the earth in 7 days? He is go he can do whatever he wants, if he is all powerful!
You're also saying ignorant things about my beliefs, its a two way street. You can dish it out but you can't take it. Its not the 7 days thing, it's the 10,000 year old thing. We have proven the world is a few BILLION years old.
How am i being ignorant? I am using science against science, not my own beleifs. I am taking it extremely well to.
You seem to regard evolution as a fact yet we have never seen it first hand!
How have you proven the world is Billions of years old? No one was around to document it all? so by scientific perspective thats just a theory to.
Arghh stop going in circles! Do you want a friggen repeat? Have you ever seen god or Jesus? That's wat ur asking me about evolution. The Earth is billions of years old, it's proven by light, carbon-dating, dinosaurs, etc. It's not a theory, it's fact. You're being ignorant because you're brainwashed and can't take anything wrong about your religion. It's full of holes.
No im not being ignorant. By a technical scientific perspective the age of the earth is just theory. As we have not observed the actual age. While a good theory, it still remains theory.
I have not seen Jesus or god, but i beleive in them and have faith in them.
Just like you have faith in Evolution! Despite the fact you have not seen it!
Prove god, we can prove the world is 5 billion years old through carbon dating, we can prove evolution through bone structures and carbon dating, we can prove the bible is revised to seem not as violent because of older copies. So give me one peice of scientific evidence that shows me there is a god.
I can't prove god to You! Its something you have to have faith on!
Nothing in science is regarded as 100% fact (as i have been told)
You have faith that evolution is true yet It has never been seen!
All beleifs recquire FAITH!
And your saying show me a sicentific proof of god, yet you cannot except by science Evolution is THEORY!
STOP REPEATING YOUSELF MAN! It Is proven by bone structures and dating, jesus! Get a grip on reality. You didn't have a leap of faith, you were brainwashed since birth.
Sir you clearly have no knowledge of the two prnicples of Science.
Fact = observed
Theroy = explanation on observed fact.
Evolution is not FACT nor is it proven as fact! Stop telling me im brain washed!
When did I say evolution was a fact? I'm pretty sure I have been maintaining that it is a scientific theory. You seem to be implying by your usage of the word theory that it is a guess or an opinion, it's not. It's scientific theory.
domatron23
You sir have made me cry with tears of joy thank you! Im not being sarcastic.
[QUOTE="jking197"][QUOTE="123625"][QUOTE="Velocitas8"][QUOTE="123625"]Of course all forms of dating the earth are 100% realiable? 123625
No, but radiocarbon dating is accurate enough for us to know the Earth is a hell of a lot older than 10,000 years :|
Yes, it can be factually proven.."it's just theory" doesn't work here.
Have we observed the age of the world, from start to now? If not it cannot be considered 100% fact, don't tell me otherwise! And tell me how exactly Radiocardon is so accurate.
You are blind, ignorant and stupid. Face facts here, don't dodge them by saying the equiptments faulty or that its unreliable. Radio Carbon is accurate because it clearly shows the world is 5 billion years older than you're stupid 10,000 year old world theory. 5 billion is a large number to be considered as a math error/
I am about to give up here.
Fact = something been seen, witnessed or observed! (same with scientific)
Theory = Explanation on how a fact works.
Without the fact you have no theory. ONLY BELEIF, that is true!
And you know what is considered a math error. Some how evolution can cause positive mutations and have them passed on to the off spring.
I can't take this. You can't argue for sh1t I've won awards for debating and you are by far the worst opponent I have ever encountered. You have no facts to fall back on, you have no excuses except saying that I have less proof than you, you are hopeless.
Fact= something that is proven
Theory= something that is not proven but is widely believed as true.
[QUOTE="123625"][QUOTE="jking197"][QUOTE="123625"][QUOTE="Velocitas8"][QUOTE="123625"]Of course all forms of dating the earth are 100% realiable? jking197
No, but radiocarbon dating is accurate enough for us to know the Earth is a hell of a lot older than 10,000 years :|
Yes, it can be factually proven.."it's just theory" doesn't work here.
Have we observed the age of the world, from start to now? If not it cannot be considered 100% fact, don't tell me otherwise! And tell me how exactly Radiocardon is so accurate.
You are blind, ignorant and stupid. Face facts here, don't dodge them by saying the equiptments faulty or that its unreliable. Radio Carbon is accurate because it clearly shows the world is 5 billion years older than you're stupid 10,000 year old world theory. 5 billion is a large number to be considered as a math error/
I am about to give up here.
Fact = something been seen, witnessed or observed! (same with scientific)
Theory = Explanation on how a fact works.
Without the fact you have no theory. ONLY BELEIF, that is true!
And you know what is considered a math error. Some how evolution can cause positive mutations and have them passed on to the off spring.
I can't take this. You can't argue for sh1t I've won awards for debating and you are by far the worst opponent I have ever encountered. You have no facts to fall back on, you have no excuses except saying that I have less proof than you, you are hopeless.
Fact= something that is proven
Theory= something that is not proven but is widely believed as true.
Wow you are probably the most dumbest person i have ever met. The guy above even said that it was and educated guess ( which i can respect )
I have no facts for sure, as do you.
Accept that Evolution is not a fact and is an educated guess or theory on how things might of came to be. Yet you stubbonly refuse.
[QUOTE="jking197"][QUOTE="123625"][QUOTE="jking197"][QUOTE="123625"][QUOTE="Velocitas8"][QUOTE="123625"]Of course all forms of dating the earth are 100% realiable? 123625
No, but radiocarbon dating is accurate enough for us to know the Earth is a hell of a lot older than 10,000 years :|
Yes, it can be factually proven.."it's just theory" doesn't work here.
Have we observed the age of the world, from start to now? If not it cannot be considered 100% fact, don't tell me otherwise! And tell me how exactly Radiocardon is so accurate.
You are blind, ignorant and stupid. Face facts here, don't dodge them by saying the equiptments faulty or that its unreliable. Radio Carbon is accurate because it clearly shows the world is 5 billion years older than you're stupid 10,000 year old world theory. 5 billion is a large number to be considered as a math error/
I am about to give up here.
Fact = something been seen, witnessed or observed! (same with scientific)
Theory = Explanation on how a fact works.
Without the fact you have no theory. ONLY BELEIF, that is true!
And you know what is considered a math error. Some how evolution can cause positive mutations and have them passed on to the off spring.
I can't take this. You can't argue for sh1t I've won awards for debating and you are by far the worst opponent I have ever encountered. You have no facts to fall back on, you have no excuses except saying that I have less proof than you, you are hopeless.
Fact= something that is proven
Theory= something that is not proven but is widely believed as true.
Wow you are probably the most dumbest person i have ever met. The guy above even said that it was and educated guess ( which i can respect )
I have no facts for sure, as do you.
Accept that Evolution is not a fact and is an educated guess or theory on how things might of came to be. Yet you stubbonly refuse.
How is it a guess. Have a look on the internet, you can see how the bones gradually transition from apes to us. We can visually see the transition, it is not a guess.
One thing I was wrong about. Christians thought the world is 6000 years old, not 10,000. Explain how that is possible? 6,000 years ago is just ridiculous, compared to 4.61 billion years proven through carbon dating.
[QUOTE="domatron23"]When did I say evolution was a fact? I'm pretty sure I have been maintaining that it is a scientific theory. You seem to be implying by your usage of the word theory that it is a guess or an opinion, it's not. It's scientific theory.
123625
You sir have made me cry with tears of joy thank you! Im not being sarcastic.
Do you intend to falsely represent what I have said and further fool yourself over the usage of the term theory? Here is a exerpt from answeringgenesis' page entitled "arguments we think creationists should NOT use"
"Evolution is just a theory."
What people usually mean when they say this is "Evolution is not proven fact, so it should not be promoted dogmatically." Therefore people should say that! The problem with using the word "theory" in this case is that scientists use it to mean a well-substantiated explanation of data. This includes well-known theories such as Einstein's Theory of Relativity and Newton's Theory of Gravity, as well as lesser-known ones such as the Debye-Hückel Theory of electrolyte solutions. It would be better to say that particles-to-people evolution is an unsubstantiated hypothesis or conjecture.
As I said. Evolution is not a guess, it is not unsubstantiated hypothesis and conjecture, it is scientific theory. Why so joyful?
[QUOTE="jking197"][QUOTE="123625"][QUOTE="jking197"][QUOTE="123625"][QUOTE="Velocitas8"][QUOTE="123625"]Of course all forms of dating the earth are 100% realiable? 123625
No, but radiocarbon dating is accurate enough for us to know the Earth is a hell of a lot older than 10,000 years :|
Yes, it can be factually proven.."it's just theory" doesn't work here.
Have we observed the age of the world, from start to now? If not it cannot be considered 100% fact, don't tell me otherwise! And tell me how exactly Radiocardon is so accurate.
You are blind, ignorant and stupid. Face facts here, don't dodge them by saying the equiptments faulty or that its unreliable. Radio Carbon is accurate because it clearly shows the world is 5 billion years older than you're stupid 10,000 year old world theory. 5 billion is a large number to be considered as a math error/
I am about to give up here.
Fact = something been seen, witnessed or observed! (same with scientific)
Theory = Explanation on how a fact works.
Without the fact you have no theory. ONLY BELEIF, that is true!
And you know what is considered a math error. Some how evolution can cause positive mutations and have them passed on to the off spring.
I can't take this. You can't argue for sh1t I've won awards for debating and you are by far the worst opponent I have ever encountered. You have no facts to fall back on, you have no excuses except saying that I have less proof than you, you are hopeless.
Fact= something that is proven
Theory= something that is not proven but is widely believed as true.
Wow you are probably the most dumbest person i have ever met. The guy above even said that it was and educated guess ( which i can respect )
I have no facts for sure, as do you.
Accept that Evolution is not a fact and is an educated guess or theory on how things might of came to be. Yet you stubbonly refuse.
How is having an oppinion dumb? I have my own beliefs, I am not brainwashed (As much as you hate to be accused of being). Having an oppinion is not being dumb. I don't think Christians are dumb, but I think you are because you have no proof/statistics except "You can't prove that".
[QUOTE="123625"][QUOTE="domatron23"]When did I say evolution was a fact? I'm pretty sure I have been maintaining that it is a scientific theory. You seem to be implying by your usage of the word theory that it is a guess or an opinion, it's not. It's scientific theory.
domatron23
You sir have made me cry with tears of joy thank you! Im not being sarcastic.
Do you intend to falsely represent what I have said and further fool yourself over the usage of the term theory? Here is a exerpt from answeringgenesis' page entitled "arguments we think creationists should NOT use"
"Evolution is just a theory."
What people usually mean when they say this is "Evolution is not proven fact, so it should not be promoted dogmatically." Therefore people should say that! The problem with using the word "theory" in this case is that scientists use it to mean a well-substantiated explanation of data. This includes well-known theories such as Einstein's Theory of Relativity and Newton's Theory of Gravity, as well as lesser-known ones such as the Debye-Hückel Theory of electrolyte solutions. It would be better to say that particles-to-people evolution is an unsubstantiated hypothesis or conjecture.
As I said. Evolution is not a guess, it is not unsubstantiated hypothesis and conjecture, it is scientific theory. Why so joyful?
You have misunderstood me. Im not trying to prove you or your beleifs wrong at all. Its just that you are one of the first to say your beleif is not fact and its an intelligent theory (which i respect greatly). Im just sick and tired of Evolutionist saying it is fact.
I don't intend to falsefy your beleif at all, do not misunderstand.
[QUOTE="domatron23"][QUOTE="123625"][QUOTE="domatron23"]When did I say evolution was a fact? I'm pretty sure I have been maintaining that it is a scientific theory. You seem to be implying by your usage of the word theory that it is a guess or an opinion, it's not. It's scientific theory.
123625
You sir have made me cry with tears of joy thank you! Im not being sarcastic.
Do you intend to falsely represent what I have said and further fool yourself over the usage of the term theory? Here is a exerpt from answeringgenesis' page entitled "arguments we think creationists should NOT use"
"Evolution is just a theory."
What people usually mean when they say this is "Evolution is not proven fact, so it should not be promoted dogmatically." Therefore people should say that! The problem with using the word "theory" in this case is that scientists use it to mean a well-substantiated explanation of data. This includes well-known theories such as Einstein's Theory of Relativity and Newton's Theory of Gravity, as well as lesser-known ones such as the Debye-Hückel Theory of electrolyte solutions. It would be better to say that particles-to-people evolution is an unsubstantiated hypothesis or conjecture.
As I said. Evolution is not a guess, it is not unsubstantiated hypothesis and conjecture, it is scientific theory. Why so joyful?
You have misunderstood me. Im not trying to prove you or your beleifs wrong at all. Its just that you are one of the first to say your beleif is not fact and its an intelligent theory (which i respect greatly). Im just sick and tired of Evolutionist saying it is fact.
I don't intend to falsefy your beleif at all, do not misunderstand.
Answer my previos question please.
[QUOTE="123625"][QUOTE="jking197"][QUOTE="123625"][QUOTE="jking197"][QUOTE="123625"][QUOTE="Velocitas8"][QUOTE="123625"]Of course all forms of dating the earth are 100% realiable? jking197
No, but radiocarbon dating is accurate enough for us to know the Earth is a hell of a lot older than 10,000 years :|
Yes, it can be factually proven.."it's just theory" doesn't work here.
Have we observed the age of the world, from start to now? If not it cannot be considered 100% fact, don't tell me otherwise! And tell me how exactly Radiocardon is so accurate.
You are blind, ignorant and stupid. Face facts here, don't dodge them by saying the equiptments faulty or that its unreliable. Radio Carbon is accurate because it clearly shows the world is 5 billion years older than you're stupid 10,000 year old world theory. 5 billion is a large number to be considered as a math error/
I am about to give up here.
Fact = something been seen, witnessed or observed! (same with scientific)
Theory = Explanation on how a fact works.
Without the fact you have no theory. ONLY BELEIF, that is true!
And you know what is considered a math error. Some how evolution can cause positive mutations and have them passed on to the off spring.
I can't take this. You can't argue for sh1t I've won awards for debating and you are by far the worst opponent I have ever encountered. You have no facts to fall back on, you have no excuses except saying that I have less proof than you, you are hopeless.
Fact= something that is proven
Theory= something that is not proven but is widely believed as true.
Wow you are probably the most dumbest person i have ever met. The guy above even said that it was and educated guess ( which i can respect )
I have no facts for sure, as do you.
Accept that Evolution is not a fact and is an educated guess or theory on how things might of came to be. Yet you stubbonly refuse.
How is having an oppinion dumb? I have my own beliefs, I am not brainwashed (As much as you hate to be accused of being). Having an oppinion is not being dumb. I don't think Christians are dumb, but I think you are because you have no proof/statistics except "You can't prove that".
So what were you arguing with me for in the first place?
I don't have any proof i have faith in Jesus.
Just as you have faith in Evolution. Evolution is not proven fact because we have not seen it. Thats the only message i was trying to spread is all.
[QUOTE="jking197"][QUOTE="123625"][QUOTE="jking197"][QUOTE="123625"][QUOTE="jking197"][QUOTE="123625"][QUOTE="Velocitas8"][QUOTE="123625"]Of course all forms of dating the earth are 100% realiable? 123625
No, but radiocarbon dating is accurate enough for us to know the Earth is a hell of a lot older than 10,000 years :|
Yes, it can be factually proven.."it's just theory" doesn't work here.
Have we observed the age of the world, from start to now? If not it cannot be considered 100% fact, don't tell me otherwise! And tell me how exactly Radiocardon is so accurate.
You are blind, ignorant and stupid. Face facts here, don't dodge them by saying the equiptments faulty or that its unreliable. Radio Carbon is accurate because it clearly shows the world is 5 billion years older than you're stupid 10,000 year old world theory. 5 billion is a large number to be considered as a math error/
I am about to give up here.
Fact = something been seen, witnessed or observed! (same with scientific)
Theory = Explanation on how a fact works.
Without the fact you have no theory. ONLY BELEIF, that is true!
And you know what is considered a math error. Some how evolution can cause positive mutations and have them passed on to the off spring.
I can't take this. You can't argue for sh1t I've won awards for debating and you are by far the worst opponent I have ever encountered. You have no facts to fall back on, you have no excuses except saying that I have less proof than you, you are hopeless.
Fact= something that is proven
Theory= something that is not proven but is widely believed as true.
Wow you are probably the most dumbest person i have ever met. The guy above even said that it was and educated guess ( which i can respect )
I have no facts for sure, as do you.
Accept that Evolution is not a fact and is an educated guess or theory on how things might of came to be. Yet you stubbonly refuse.
How is having an oppinion dumb? I have my own beliefs, I am not brainwashed (As much as you hate to be accused of being). Having an oppinion is not being dumb. I don't think Christians are dumb, but I think you are because you have no proof/statistics except "You can't prove that".
So what were you arguing with me for in the first place?
I don't have any proof i have faith in Jesus.
Just as you have faith in Evolution. Evolution is not proven fact because we have not seen it. Thats the only message i was trying to spread is all.
Stop saying that you have repeated youself a good ten times. I get it, can you move on and try to shoot me down. You are loosing this argument. Try to prove my beliefs wrong, if you can get me, I will willfully admit I am wrong and leave. First things first, do you agree that the world is only 6000 y.o
[QUOTE="123625"][QUOTE="domatron23"][QUOTE="123625"][QUOTE="domatron23"]When did I say evolution was a fact? I'm pretty sure I have been maintaining that it is a scientific theory. You seem to be implying by your usage of the word theory that it is a guess or an opinion, it's not. It's scientific theory.
jking197
You sir have made me cry with tears of joy thank you! Im not being sarcastic.
Do you intend to falsely represent what I have said and further fool yourself over the usage of the term theory? Here is a exerpt from answeringgenesis' page entitled "arguments we think creationists should NOT use"
"Evolution is just a theory."
What people usually mean when they say this is "Evolution is not proven fact, so it should not be promoted dogmatically." Therefore people should say that! The problem with using the word "theory" in this case is that scientists use it to mean a well-substantiated explanation of data. This includes well-known theories such as Einstein's Theory of Relativity and Newton's Theory of Gravity, as well as lesser-known ones such as the Debye-Hückel Theory of electrolyte solutions. It would be better to say that particles-to-people evolution is an unsubstantiated hypothesis or conjecture.
As I said. Evolution is not a guess, it is not unsubstantiated hypothesis and conjecture, it is scientific theory. Why so joyful?
You have misunderstood me. Im not trying to prove you or your beleifs wrong at all. Its just that you are one of the first to say your beleif is not fact and its an intelligent theory (which i respect greatly). Im just sick and tired of Evolutionist saying it is fact.
I don't intend to falsefy your beleif at all, do not misunderstand.
Answer my previos question please.
I was merely Joyful because you're not being ignorant claiming Evolution is fact. Though you beleive it fact, just as i beleive in Jesus as fact, we all have our own beleifs. I can respect that.
Im not trying to take advantage of it at all, only mention that Evolution recquires Faith, even if its only little.
[QUOTE="jking197"][QUOTE="123625"][QUOTE="domatron23"][QUOTE="123625"][QUOTE="domatron23"]When did I say evolution was a fact? I'm pretty sure I have been maintaining that it is a scientific theory. You seem to be implying by your usage of the word theory that it is a guess or an opinion, it's not. It's scientific theory.
123625
You sir have made me cry with tears of joy thank you! Im not being sarcastic.
Do you intend to falsely represent what I have said and further fool yourself over the usage of the term theory? Here is a exerpt from answeringgenesis' page entitled "arguments we think creationists should NOT use"
"Evolution is just a theory."
What people usually mean when they say this is "Evolution is not proven fact, so it should not be promoted dogmatically." Therefore people should say that! The problem with using the word "theory" in this case is that scientists use it to mean a well-substantiated explanation of data. This includes well-known theories such as Einstein's Theory of Relativity and Newton's Theory of Gravity, as well as lesser-known ones such as the Debye-Hückel Theory of electrolyte solutions. It would be better to say that particles-to-people evolution is an unsubstantiated hypothesis or conjecture.
As I said. Evolution is not a guess, it is not unsubstantiated hypothesis and conjecture, it is scientific theory. Why so joyful?
You have misunderstood me. Im not trying to prove you or your beleifs wrong at all. Its just that you are one of the first to say your beleif is not fact and its an intelligent theory (which i respect greatly). Im just sick and tired of Evolutionist saying it is fact.
I don't intend to falsefy your beleif at all, do not misunderstand.
Answer my previos question please.
I was merely Joyful because you're not being ignorant claiming Evolution is fact. Though you beleive it fact, just as i beleive in Jesus as fact, we all have our own beleifs. I can respect that.
Im not trying to take advantage of it at all, only mention that Evolution recquires Faith, even if its only little.
wtf, that wasnt my question. my question was do you agree the world is only 6000 y.o?
[QUOTE="domatron23"][QUOTE="123625"][QUOTE="domatron23"]When did I say evolution was a fact? I'm pretty sure I have been maintaining that it is a scientific theory. You seem to be implying by your usage of the word theory that it is a guess or an opinion, it's not. It's scientific theory.
123625
You sir have made me cry with tears of joy thank you! Im not being sarcastic.
Do you intend to falsely represent what I have said and further fool yourself over the usage of the term theory? Here is a exerpt from answeringgenesis' page entitled "arguments we think creationists should NOT use"
"Evolution is just a theory."
What people usually mean when they say this is "Evolution is not proven fact, so it should not be promoted dogmatically." Therefore people should say that! The problem with using the word "theory" in this case is that scientists use it to mean a well-substantiated explanation of data. This includes well-known theories such as Einstein's Theory of Relativity and Newton's Theory of Gravity, as well as lesser-known ones such as the Debye-Hückel Theory of electrolyte solutions. It would be better to say that particles-to-people evolution is an unsubstantiated hypothesis or conjecture.
As I said. Evolution is not a guess, it is not unsubstantiated hypothesis and conjecture, it is scientific theory. Why so joyful?
You have misunderstood me. Im not trying to prove you or your beleifs wrong at all. Its just that you are one of the first to say your beleif is not fact and its an intelligent theory (which i respect greatly). Im just sick and tired of Evolutionist saying it is fact.
I don't intend to falsefy your beleif at all, do not misunderstand.
Oh okay. That's fine I suppose. Yes I will agree that evolution is "just" an intelligent theory but to not believe in it is just as irrational as to not believe in gravity (which is also a scientific theory).
Just out of interest would you consider Christianity's explanation of the world as a scientific theory on par with that of evolution?
[QUOTE="123625"][QUOTE="jking197"][QUOTE="123625"][QUOTE="jking197"][QUOTE="123625"][QUOTE="jking197"][QUOTE="123625"][QUOTE="Velocitas8"][QUOTE="123625"]Of course all forms of dating the earth are 100% realiable? jking197
No, but radiocarbon dating is accurate enough for us to know the Earth is a hell of a lot older than 10,000 years :|
Yes, it can be factually proven.."it's just theory" doesn't work here.
Have we observed the age of the world, from start to now? If not it cannot be considered 100% fact, don't tell me otherwise! And tell me how exactly Radiocardon is so accurate.
You are blind, ignorant and stupid. Face facts here, don't dodge them by saying the equiptments faulty or that its unreliable. Radio Carbon is accurate because it clearly shows the world is 5 billion years older than you're stupid 10,000 year old world theory. 5 billion is a large number to be considered as a math error/
I am about to give up here.
Fact = something been seen, witnessed or observed! (same with scientific)
Theory = Explanation on how a fact works.
Without the fact you have no theory. ONLY BELEIF, that is true!
And you know what is considered a math error. Some how evolution can cause positive mutations and have them passed on to the off spring.
I can't take this. You can't argue for sh1t I've won awards for debating and you are by far the worst opponent I have ever encountered. You have no facts to fall back on, you have no excuses except saying that I have less proof than you, you are hopeless.
Fact= something that is proven
Theory= something that is not proven but is widely believed as true.
Wow you are probably the most dumbest person i have ever met. The guy above even said that it was and educated guess ( which i can respect )
I have no facts for sure, as do you.
Accept that Evolution is not a fact and is an educated guess or theory on how things might of came to be. Yet you stubbonly refuse.
How is having an oppinion dumb? I have my own beliefs, I am not brainwashed (As much as you hate to be accused of being). Having an oppinion is not being dumb. I don't think Christians are dumb, but I think you are because you have no proof/statistics except "You can't prove that".
So what were you arguing with me for in the first place?
I don't have any proof i have faith in Jesus.
Just as you have faith in Evolution. Evolution is not proven fact because we have not seen it. Thats the only message i was trying to spread is all.
Stop saying that you have repeated youself a good ten times. I get it, can you move on and try to shoot me down. You are loosing this argument. Try to prove my beliefs wrong, if you can get me, I will willfully admit I am wrong and leave. First things first, do you agree that the world is only 6000 y.o
Unlike you i have no interest in proving you're beleifs wrong. Nor can i prove my beleifs right. I can only beleive in them as you do yours. I am simply debating, and i have to repeat myself because you refuse you acknowledge my post.
Im not trying to disprove or prove anything, IM not that smart. I can offer you no proof other than go read a bible and i suggest start with mathew.
Any way i am done with this discussion.
[QUOTE="123625"][QUOTE="domatron23"][QUOTE="123625"][QUOTE="domatron23"]When did I say evolution was a fact? I'm pretty sure I have been maintaining that it is a scientific theory. You seem to be implying by your usage of the word theory that it is a guess or an opinion, it's not. It's scientific theory.
domatron23
You sir have made me cry with tears of joy thank you! Im not being sarcastic.
Do you intend to falsely represent what I have said and further fool yourself over the usage of the term theory? Here is a exerpt from answeringgenesis' page entitled "arguments we think creationists should NOT use"
"Evolution is just a theory."
What people usually mean when they say this is "Evolution is not proven fact, so it should not be promoted dogmatically." Therefore people should say that! The problem with using the word "theory" in this case is that scientists use it to mean a well-substantiated explanation of data. This includes well-known theories such as Einstein's Theory of Relativity and Newton's Theory of Gravity, as well as lesser-known ones such as the Debye-Hückel Theory of electrolyte solutions. It would be better to say that particles-to-people evolution is an unsubstantiated hypothesis or conjecture.
As I said. Evolution is not a guess, it is not unsubstantiated hypothesis and conjecture, it is scientific theory. Why so joyful?
You have misunderstood me. Im not trying to prove you or your beleifs wrong at all. Its just that you are one of the first to say your beleif is not fact and its an intelligent theory (which i respect greatly). Im just sick and tired of Evolutionist saying it is fact.
I don't intend to falsefy your beleif at all, do not misunderstand.
Oh okay. That's fine I suppose. Yes I will agree that evolution is "just" an intelligent theory but to not believe in it is just as irrational as to not believe in gravity (which is also a scientific theory).
Just out of interest would you consider Christianity's explanation of the world as a scientific theory on par with that of evolution?
Gravity is mathematical law, not theory.
[QUOTE="jking197"][QUOTE="123625"][QUOTE="jking197"][QUOTE="123625"][QUOTE="jking197"][QUOTE="123625"][QUOTE="jking197"][QUOTE="123625"][QUOTE="Velocitas8"][QUOTE="123625"]Of course all forms of dating the earth are 100% realiable? 123625
No, but radiocarbon dating is accurate enough for us to know the Earth is a hell of a lot older than 10,000 years :|
Yes, it can be factually proven.."it's just theory" doesn't work here.
Have we observed the age of the world, from start to now? If not it cannot be considered 100% fact, don't tell me otherwise! And tell me how exactly Radiocardon is so accurate.
You are blind, ignorant and stupid. Face facts here, don't dodge them by saying the equiptments faulty or that its unreliable. Radio Carbon is accurate because it clearly shows the world is 5 billion years older than you're stupid 10,000 year old world theory. 5 billion is a large number to be considered as a math error/
I am about to give up here.
Fact = something been seen, witnessed or observed! (same with scientific)
Theory = Explanation on how a fact works.
Without the fact you have no theory. ONLY BELEIF, that is true!
And you know what is considered a math error. Some how evolution can cause positive mutations and have them passed on to the off spring.
I can't take this. You can't argue for sh1t I've won awards for debating and you are by far the worst opponent I have ever encountered. You have no facts to fall back on, you have no excuses except saying that I have less proof than you, you are hopeless.
Fact= something that is proven
Theory= something that is not proven but is widely believed as true.
Wow you are probably the most dumbest person i have ever met. The guy above even said that it was and educated guess ( which i can respect )
I have no facts for sure, as do you.
Accept that Evolution is not a fact and is an educated guess or theory on how things might of came to be. Yet you stubbonly refuse.
How is having an oppinion dumb? I have my own beliefs, I am not brainwashed (As much as you hate to be accused of being). Having an oppinion is not being dumb. I don't think Christians are dumb, but I think you are because you have no proof/statistics except "You can't prove that".
So what were you arguing with me for in the first place?
I don't have any proof i have faith in Jesus.
Just as you have faith in Evolution. Evolution is not proven fact because we have not seen it. Thats the only message i was trying to spread is all.
Stop saying that you have repeated youself a good ten times. I get it, can you move on and try to shoot me down. You are loosing this argument. Try to prove my beliefs wrong, if you can get me, I will willfully admit I am wrong and leave. First things first, do you agree that the world is only 6000 y.o
Unlike you i have no interest in proving you're beleifs wrong. Nor can i prove my beleifs right. I can only beleive in them as you do yours. I am simply debating, and i have to repeat myself because you refuse you acknowledge my post.
Im not trying to disprove or prove anything, IM not that smart. I can offer you no proof other than go read a bible and i suggest start with mathew.
Any way i am done with this discussion.
You are not debating, you are merely repeating youself with your same stupid statement that evolution is just a theory. I can not argue with you anymore, you can't ague for sh1t, and you are brainwashed so there is no chance in getting you to acknowledge holes iin the bible. I have read the bible, I found it mildy entertaining (like a fairytale). Otherwise I found it a load of BS.
Goodbye and I hope you learn to become more open-minded.
[QUOTE="123625"][QUOTE="domatron23"][QUOTE="123625"][QUOTE="domatron23"]When did I say evolution was a fact? I'm pretty sure I have been maintaining that it is a scientific theory. You seem to be implying by your usage of the word theory that it is a guess or an opinion, it's not. It's scientific theory.
domatron23
You sir have made me cry with tears of joy thank you! Im not being sarcastic.
Do you intend to falsely represent what I have said and further fool yourself over the usage of the term theory? Here is a exerpt from answeringgenesis' page entitled "arguments we think creationists should NOT use"
"Evolution is just a theory."
What people usually mean when they say this is "Evolution is not proven fact, so it should not be promoted dogmatically." Therefore people should say that! The problem with using the word "theory" in this case is that scientists use it to mean a well-substantiated explanation of data. This includes well-known theories such as Einstein's Theory of Relativity and Newton's Theory of Gravity, as well as lesser-known ones such as the Debye-Hückel Theory of electrolyte solutions. It would be better to say that particles-to-people evolution is an unsubstantiated hypothesis or conjecture.
As I said. Evolution is not a guess, it is not unsubstantiated hypothesis and conjecture, it is scientific theory. Why so joyful?
You have misunderstood me. Im not trying to prove you or your beleifs wrong at all. Its just that you are one of the first to say your beleif is not fact and its an intelligent theory (which i respect greatly). Im just sick and tired of Evolutionist saying it is fact.
I don't intend to falsefy your beleif at all, do not misunderstand.
Oh okay. That's fine I suppose. Yes I will agree that evolution is "just" an intelligent theory but to not believe in it is just as irrational as to not believe in gravity (which is also a scientific theory).
Just out of interest would you consider Christianity's explanation of the world as a scientific theory on par with that of evolution?
No Its not a scientific theory, its beleif and faith. Though i do see the acount for the beggining most logical.
Gravity is mathematical law, not theory. jking197
It's a bit of both I think (correct me if I'm wrong). Gravity is the law, Newton's theory of universal gravitation is the... well the theory behind it. Let me know if I have it horribly wrong because I'd hate to spread misinformation.
You are not debating, you are merely repeating youself with your same stupid statement that evolution is just a theory. I can not argue with you anymore, you can't ague for sh1t, and you are brainwashed so there is no chance in getting you to acknowledge holes iin the bible. I have read the bible, I found it mildy entertaining (like a fairytale). Otherwise I found it a load of BS.Goodbye and I hope you learn to become more open-minded.
jking197
Sir you are a rude man, you can beleive in whatever you want. I don't care. But don't try and pass of something as fact when it is not. Im not saying Evolution is Just a theory, its a very intellegent theory, though i just don't see it ever happening.
All radiometric dating methods are based on assumptions about events that happened in the past. If the assumptions are accepted as true (as is typically done in the evolutionary dating processes), results can be biased toward a desired age. In the reported ages given in textbooks and other journals, these evolutionary assumptions have not been questioned, while results inconsistent with long ages have been censored. When the assumptions were evaluated and shown faulty, the results supported the biblical account of a global Flood and young earth. Christians should not be afraid of radiometric dating methods. Carbon-14 dating is really the friend of Christians, and it supports a young earth.
The RATE scientists are convinced that the popular idea attributed to geologist Charles Lyell from nearly two centuries ago, "The present is the key to the past," is simply not valid for an earth history of millions or billions of years. An alternative interpretation of the carbon-14 data is that the earth experienced a global flood catastrophe which laid down most of the rock strata and fossils.... Whatever the source of the carbon-14, its presence in nearly every sample tested worldwide is a strong challenge to an ancient age. Carbon-14 data is now firmly on the side of the young-earth view of history.
You got to use your atheism site. my turn
(source: http://www.answersingenesis.org/articles/nab/does-c14-disprove-the-bible)
SonKev
Typical Creatonist sudo-science bullcrap. A quick example from the article:
Since diamonds are considered to be so old by evolutionary standards, finding any 14C in them would be strong support for a recent creation.AnswersInGenesis
The above is completely false.
Edit: Anyways, It's getting late..and I'm not a fan of these threads. I'm off to bed - 'night folks.
[QUOTE="jking197"]You are not debating, you are merely repeating youself with your same stupid statement that evolution is just a theory. I can not argue with you anymore, you can't ague for sh1t, and you are brainwashed so there is no chance in getting you to acknowledge holes iin the bible. I have read the bible, I found it mildy entertaining (like a fairytale). Otherwise I found it a load of BS.Goodbye and I hope you learn to become more open-minded.
123625
Sir you are a rude man, you can beleive in whatever you want. I don't care. But don't try and pass of something as fact when it is not. Im not saying Evolution is Just a theory, its a very intellegent theory, though i just don't see it ever happening.
You don't see it ever happening? It has happened! Jesus do you hear youself sometimes? And answer my question i've asked five times, do you agree that the world is only 6000 y.o. if you don't answer that don't bother asking me anything else.
[QUOTE="123625"][QUOTE="jking197"]You are not debating, you are merely repeating youself with your same stupid statement that evolution is just a theory. I can not argue with you anymore, you can't ague for sh1t, and you are brainwashed so there is no chance in getting you to acknowledge holes iin the bible. I have read the bible, I found it mildy entertaining (like a fairytale). Otherwise I found it a load of BS.Goodbye and I hope you learn to become more open-minded.
jking197
Sir you are a rude man, you can beleive in whatever you want. I don't care. But don't try and pass of something as fact when it is not. Im not saying Evolution is Just a theory, its a very intellegent theory, though i just don't see it ever happening.
You don't see it ever happening? It has happened! Jesus do you hear youself sometimes? And answer my question i've asked five times, do you agree that the world is only 6000 y.o. if you don't answer that don't bother asking me anything else.
I HAVE NEVER CLAIMED TO OF SEEN MY BELEIFS HAPPEN! NOR HAVE I CLAIMED FOR THEM TO BE REAL! I SIMPLY BELEIVE IN SUCH!
And do i beleive the world is 6000 years old? No i have no idea how old it is. No one knows the exact date of the earth!
[QUOTE="jking197"][QUOTE="123625"][QUOTE="jking197"]You are not debating, you are merely repeating youself with your same stupid statement that evolution is just a theory. I can not argue with you anymore, you can't ague for sh1t, and you are brainwashed so there is no chance in getting you to acknowledge holes iin the bible. I have read the bible, I found it mildy entertaining (like a fairytale). Otherwise I found it a load of BS.Goodbye and I hope you learn to become more open-minded.
123625
Sir you are a rude man, you can beleive in whatever you want. I don't care. But don't try and pass of something as fact when it is not. Im not saying Evolution is Just a theory, its a very intellegent theory, though i just don't see it ever happening.
You don't see it ever happening? It has happened! Jesus do you hear youself sometimes? And answer my question i've asked five times, do you agree that the world is only 6000 y.o. if you don't answer that don't bother asking me anything else.
I HAVE NEVER CLAIMED TO OF SEEN MY BELEIFS HAPPEN! NOR HAVE I CLAIMED FOR THEM TO BE REAL! I SIMPLY BELEIVE IN SUCH!
And do i beleive the world is 6000 years old? No i have no idea how old it is. No one knows the exact date of the earth!
We have a very accurate approximation - around 4.61 billion years i believe. 6000 years is utterly wrong though.
[QUOTE="jking197"]You are not debating, you are merely repeating youself with your same stupid statement that evolution is just a theory. I can not argue with you anymore, you can't ague for sh1t, and you are brainwashed so there is no chance in getting you to acknowledge holes iin the bible. I have read the bible, I found it mildy entertaining (like a fairytale). Otherwise I found it a load of BS.Goodbye and I hope you learn to become more open-minded.
123625
Sir you are a rude man, you can beleive in whatever you want. I don't care. But don't try and pass of something as fact when it is not. Im not saying Evolution is Just a theory, its a very intellegent theory, though i just don't see it ever happening.
I don't blame him. Anyone debating with you is likely to get a little irritated.
Your saving grace is your own ignorance.
But really.... have fun.
[QUOTE="123625"][QUOTE="jking197"][QUOTE="123625"][QUOTE="jking197"]You are not debating, you are merely repeating youself with your same stupid statement that evolution is just a theory. I can not argue with you anymore, you can't ague for sh1t, and you are brainwashed so there is no chance in getting you to acknowledge holes iin the bible. I have read the bible, I found it mildy entertaining (like a fairytale). Otherwise I found it a load of BS.Goodbye and I hope you learn to become more open-minded.
jking197
Sir you are a rude man, you can beleive in whatever you want. I don't care. But don't try and pass of something as fact when it is not. Im not saying Evolution is Just a theory, its a very intellegent theory, though i just don't see it ever happening.
You don't see it ever happening? It has happened! Jesus do you hear youself sometimes? And answer my question i've asked five times, do you agree that the world is only 6000 y.o. if you don't answer that don't bother asking me anything else.
I HAVE NEVER CLAIMED TO OF SEEN MY BELEIFS HAPPEN! NOR HAVE I CLAIMED FOR THEM TO BE REAL! I SIMPLY BELEIVE IN SUCH!
And do i beleive the world is 6000 years old? No i have no idea how old it is. No one knows the exact date of the earth!
We have a very accurate approximation - around 4.61 billion years i believe. 6000 years is utterly wrong though.
You're point being?
[QUOTE="123625"][QUOTE="jking197"]You are not debating, you are merely repeating youself with your same stupid statement that evolution is just a theory. I can not argue with you anymore, you can't ague for sh1t, and you are brainwashed so there is no chance in getting you to acknowledge holes iin the bible. I have read the bible, I found it mildy entertaining (like a fairytale). Otherwise I found it a load of BS.Goodbye and I hope you learn to become more open-minded.
FamiBox
Sir you are a rude man, you can beleive in whatever you want. I don't care. But don't try and pass of something as fact when it is not. Im not saying Evolution is Just a theory, its a very intellegent theory, though i just don't see it ever happening.
I don't blame him. Anyone debating with you is likely to get a little irritated.
Your saving grace is your own ignorance.
But really.... have fun.
I do have fun arguing. That's why I am such a great debater. That guys hopeless, he has no fallbacks, i've shot him down that is why he is irritated.
[QUOTE="123625"][QUOTE="jking197"]You are not debating, you are merely repeating youself with your same stupid statement that evolution is just a theory. I can not argue with you anymore, you can't ague for sh1t, and you are brainwashed so there is no chance in getting you to acknowledge holes iin the bible. I have read the bible, I found it mildy entertaining (like a fairytale). Otherwise I found it a load of BS.Goodbye and I hope you learn to become more open-minded.
FamiBox
Sir you are a rude man, you can beleive in whatever you want. I don't care. But don't try and pass of something as fact when it is not. Im not saying Evolution is Just a theory, its a very intellegent theory, though i just don't see it ever happening.
I don't blame him. Anyone debating with you is likely to get a little irritated.
Your saving grace is your own ignorance.
But really.... have fun.
I suggest you read from start to finish please. Don't call me ignorent, when all i am saying is Evolution is a scientific proven fact.
[QUOTE="jking197"][QUOTE="123625"][QUOTE="jking197"][QUOTE="123625"][QUOTE="jking197"]You are not debating, you are merely repeating youself with your same stupid statement that evolution is just a theory. I can not argue with you anymore, you can't ague for sh1t, and you are brainwashed so there is no chance in getting you to acknowledge holes iin the bible. I have read the bible, I found it mildy entertaining (like a fairytale). Otherwise I found it a load of BS.Goodbye and I hope you learn to become more open-minded.
123625
Sir you are a rude man, you can beleive in whatever you want. I don't care. But don't try and pass of something as fact when it is not. Im not saying Evolution is Just a theory, its a very intellegent theory, though i just don't see it ever happening.
You don't see it ever happening? It has happened! Jesus do you hear youself sometimes? And answer my question i've asked five times, do you agree that the world is only 6000 y.o. if you don't answer that don't bother asking me anything else.
I HAVE NEVER CLAIMED TO OF SEEN MY BELEIFS HAPPEN! NOR HAVE I CLAIMED FOR THEM TO BE REAL! I SIMPLY BELEIVE IN SUCH!
And do i beleive the world is 6000 years old? No i have no idea how old it is. No one knows the exact date of the earth!
We have a very accurate approximation - around 4.61 billion years i believe. 6000 years is utterly wrong though.
You're point being?
It contradicts alot of things you've been talking about for starters.The bible used to state the world is only 6000 years old.
[QUOTE="FamiBox"][QUOTE="123625"][QUOTE="jking197"]You are not debating, you are merely repeating youself with your same stupid statement that evolution is just a theory. I can not argue with you anymore, you can't ague for sh1t, and you are brainwashed so there is no chance in getting you to acknowledge holes iin the bible. I have read the bible, I found it mildy entertaining (like a fairytale). Otherwise I found it a load of BS.Goodbye and I hope you learn to become more open-minded.
jking197
Sir you are a rude man, you can beleive in whatever you want. I don't care. But don't try and pass of something as fact when it is not. Im not saying Evolution is Just a theory, its a very intellegent theory, though i just don't see it ever happening.
I don't blame him. Anyone debating with you is likely to get a little irritated.
Your saving grace is your own ignorance.
But really.... have fun.
I do have fun arguing. That's why I am such a great debater. That guys hopeless, he has no fallbacks, i've shot him down that is why he is irritated.
Look in the mirror wise guy.
[QUOTE="123625"][QUOTE="jking197"][QUOTE="123625"][QUOTE="jking197"][QUOTE="123625"][QUOTE="jking197"]You are not debating, you are merely repeating youself with your same stupid statement that evolution is just a theory. I can not argue with you anymore, you can't ague for sh1t, and you are brainwashed so there is no chance in getting you to acknowledge holes iin the bible. I have read the bible, I found it mildy entertaining (like a fairytale). Otherwise I found it a load of BS.Goodbye and I hope you learn to become more open-minded.
jking197
Sir you are a rude man, you can beleive in whatever you want. I don't care. But don't try and pass of something as fact when it is not. Im not saying Evolution is Just a theory, its a very intellegent theory, though i just don't see it ever happening.
You don't see it ever happening? It has happened! Jesus do you hear youself sometimes? And answer my question i've asked five times, do you agree that the world is only 6000 y.o. if you don't answer that don't bother asking me anything else.
I HAVE NEVER CLAIMED TO OF SEEN MY BELEIFS HAPPEN! NOR HAVE I CLAIMED FOR THEM TO BE REAL! I SIMPLY BELEIVE IN SUCH!
And do i beleive the world is 6000 years old? No i have no idea how old it is. No one knows the exact date of the earth!
We have a very accurate approximation - around 4.61 billion years i believe. 6000 years is utterly wrong though.
You're point being?
It contradicts alot of things you've been talking about for starters.The bible used to state the world is only 6000 years old.
The bible doesnt say how old the world is, your using bad logic.
[QUOTE="FamiBox"][QUOTE="123625"][QUOTE="jking197"]You are not debating, you are merely repeating youself with your same stupid statement that evolution is just a theory. I can not argue with you anymore, you can't ague for sh1t, and you are brainwashed so there is no chance in getting you to acknowledge holes iin the bible. I have read the bible, I found it mildy entertaining (like a fairytale). Otherwise I found it a load of BS.Goodbye and I hope you learn to become more open-minded.
jking197
Sir you are a rude man, you can beleive in whatever you want. I don't care. But don't try and pass of something as fact when it is not. Im not saying Evolution is Just a theory, its a very intellegent theory, though i just don't see it ever happening.
I don't blame him. Anyone debating with you is likely to get a little irritated.
Your saving grace is your own ignorance.
But really.... have fun.
I do have fun arguing. That's why I am such a great debater. That guys hopeless, he has no fallbacks, i've shot him down that is why he is irritated.
Good for you :P
[QUOTE="jking197"][QUOTE="FamiBox"][QUOTE="123625"][QUOTE="jking197"]You are not debating, you are merely repeating youself with your same stupid statement that evolution is just a theory. I can not argue with you anymore, you can't ague for sh1t, and you are brainwashed so there is no chance in getting you to acknowledge holes iin the bible. I have read the bible, I found it mildy entertaining (like a fairytale). Otherwise I found it a load of BS.Goodbye and I hope you learn to become more open-minded.
123625
Sir you are a rude man, you can beleive in whatever you want. I don't care. But don't try and pass of something as fact when it is not. Im not saying Evolution is Just a theory, its a very intellegent theory, though i just don't see it ever happening.
I don't blame him. Anyone debating with you is likely to get a little irritated.
Your saving grace is your own ignorance.
But really.... have fun.
I do have fun arguing. That's why I am such a great debater. That guys hopeless, he has no fallbacks, i've shot him down that is why he is irritated.
Look in the mirror wise guy.
I am, I see a very good looking guy with a satisfactory look on his face as if he won an argument.
Again, you have nothing to fall back on - Phail.
[QUOTE="jking197"][QUOTE="FamiBox"][QUOTE="123625"][QUOTE="jking197"]You are not debating, you are merely repeating youself with your same stupid statement that evolution is just a theory. I can not argue with you anymore, you can't ague for sh1t, and you are brainwashed so there is no chance in getting you to acknowledge holes iin the bible. I have read the bible, I found it mildy entertaining (like a fairytale). Otherwise I found it a load of BS.Goodbye and I hope you learn to become more open-minded.
FamiBox
Sir you are a rude man, you can beleive in whatever you want. I don't care. But don't try and pass of something as fact when it is not. Im not saying Evolution is Just a theory, its a very intellegent theory, though i just don't see it ever happening.
I don't blame him. Anyone debating with you is likely to get a little irritated.
Your saving grace is your own ignorance.
But really.... have fun.
I do have fun arguing. That's why I am such a great debater. That guys hopeless, he has no fallbacks, i've shot him down that is why he is irritated.
He's irritated because you've "shot him down" with blanks and given him a headache.
How have I shot him down with blanks? i've given him loads of evidence and he's just repeating himself, go back and read. You'll see what I mean. You're obviosuly a blind christian then.
I am, I see a very good looking guy with a satisfactory look on his face as if he won an argument.
Again, you have nothing to fall back on - Phail.
jking197
I am lost for words with you. You insult me say im wrong yet your just saying such things, not actually explaining why i am wrong.
[QUOTE="jking197"][QUOTE="123625"][QUOTE="jking197"][QUOTE="123625"][QUOTE="jking197"][QUOTE="123625"][QUOTE="jking197"]You are not debating, you are merely repeating youself with your same stupid statement that evolution is just a theory. I can not argue with you anymore, you can't ague for sh1t, and you are brainwashed so there is no chance in getting you to acknowledge holes iin the bible. I have read the bible, I found it mildy entertaining (like a fairytale). Otherwise I found it a load of BS.Goodbye and I hope you learn to become more open-minded.
123625
Sir you are a rude man, you can beleive in whatever you want. I don't care. But don't try and pass of something as fact when it is not. Im not saying Evolution is Just a theory, its a very intellegent theory, though i just don't see it ever happening.
You don't see it ever happening? It has happened! Jesus do you hear youself sometimes? And answer my question i've asked five times, do you agree that the world is only 6000 y.o. if you don't answer that don't bother asking me anything else.
I HAVE NEVER CLAIMED TO OF SEEN MY BELEIFS HAPPEN! NOR HAVE I CLAIMED FOR THEM TO BE REAL! I SIMPLY BELEIVE IN SUCH!
And do i beleive the world is 6000 years old? No i have no idea how old it is. No one knows the exact date of the earth!
We have a very accurate approximation - around 4.61 billion years i believe. 6000 years is utterly wrong though.
You're point being?
It contradicts alot of things you've been talking about for starters.The bible used to state the world is only 6000 years old.
The bible doesnt say how old the world is, your using bad logic.
It used to be preached that until it was proven otherwise. Also, Christians used to believe science was created by the devil to get rid of the belief of god.
How have I shot him down with blanks? i've given him loads of evidence and he's just repeating himself, go back and read. You'll see what I mean. You're obviosuly a blind christian then. jking197
You have not given a single shred of evidence only petty rants and insults, because you can't accept evolution is not fact. Prove me wrong and tell me why evolution is FACT.
[QUOTE="FamiBox"][QUOTE="jking197"][QUOTE="FamiBox"][QUOTE="123625"][QUOTE="jking197"]You are not debating, you are merely repeating youself with your same stupid statement that evolution is just a theory. I can not argue with you anymore, you can't ague for sh1t, and you are brainwashed so there is no chance in getting you to acknowledge holes iin the bible. I have read the bible, I found it mildy entertaining (like a fairytale). Otherwise I found it a load of BS.Goodbye and I hope you learn to become more open-minded.
jking197
Sir you are a rude man, you can beleive in whatever you want. I don't care. But don't try and pass of something as fact when it is not. Im not saying Evolution is Just a theory, its a very intellegent theory, though i just don't see it ever happening.
I don't blame him. Anyone debating with you is likely to get a little irritated.
Your saving grace is your own ignorance.
But really.... have fun.
I do have fun arguing. That's why I am such a great debater. That guys hopeless, he has no fallbacks, i've shot him down that is why he is irritated.
He's irritated because you've "shot him down" with blanks and given him a headache.
How have I shot him down with blanks? i've given him loads of evidence and he's just repeating himself, go back and read. You'll see what I mean. You're obviosuly a blind christian then.
Huh.. I was talking to 123625.. not you.
I'm no Christian. ..... what an insult :P
[QUOTE="jking197"]I am, I see a very good looking guy with a satisfactory look on his face as if he won an argument.
Again, you have nothing to fall back on - Phail.
123625
I am lost for words with you. You insult me say im wrong yet your just saying such things, not actually explaining why i am wrong.
Wan't another repeat? You are wrong because you can't admit that carbon dating is accurate, you are wrong because you are saying evolution has less evidence than Adam and Eve. I seriously think you should try to de-program yourself and do a bit of research. Im really tired, but if you want I can show you websites showing how the earth was made, how old it is, etc.
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