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#251 123625
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Huh.. I was talking to 123625.. not you.

I'm no Christian. ..... what an insult :P

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Fami you were never talking to me.

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[QUOTE="jking197"]How have I shot him down with blanks? i've given him loads of evidence and he's just repeating himself, go back and read. You'll see what I mean. You're obviosuly a blind christian then. 123625

You have not given a single shred of evidence only petty rants and insults, because you can't accept evolution is not fact. Prove me wrong and tell me why evolution is FACT.

SHUT THE HELL UP AND STOP SAYING THE SAME THING PLEASE! I have given you evidence such as carbon dating, you are so god damn irritating. I told you how old the world really is, I told you about evolution, I've given you statistics, I've answered your questions repeatidly.

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#253 jking197
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[QUOTE="jking197"][QUOTE="FamiBox"][QUOTE="jking197"][QUOTE="FamiBox"][QUOTE="123625"][QUOTE="jking197"]You are not debating, you are merely repeating youself with your same stupid statement that evolution is just a theory. I can not argue with you anymore, you can't ague for sh1t, and you are brainwashed so there is no chance in getting you to acknowledge holes iin the bible. I have read the bible, I found it mildy entertaining (like a fairytale). Otherwise I found it a load of BS.

Goodbye and I hope you learn to become more open-minded.

FamiBox

Sir you are a rude man, you can beleive in whatever you want. I don't care. But don't try and pass of something as fact when it is not. Im not saying Evolution is Just a theory, its a very intellegent theory, though i just don't see it ever happening.

I don't blame him. Anyone debating with you is likely to get a little irritated.

Your saving grace is your own ignorance.

But really.... have fun.

I do have fun arguing. That's why I am such a great debater. That guys hopeless, he has no fallbacks, i've shot him down that is why he is irritated.

He's irritated because you've "shot him down" with blanks and given him a headache.

How have I shot him down with blanks? i've given him loads of evidence and he's just repeating himself, go back and read. You'll see what I mean. You're obviosuly a blind christian then.

Huh.. I was talking to 123625.. not you.

I'm no Christian. ..... what an insult :P

Soz man lol. I take it back :P I thought you were saying im using blanks.

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#254 FamiBox
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[QUOTE="FamiBox"]

Huh.. I was talking to 123625.. not you.

I'm no Christian. ..... what an insult :P

123625

Fami you were never talking to me.

Sorry dudes... i totally messed up by missing one post.

ahhh... forget I said anything..... blah.. I'll try and fix it... maybe :?

Edit:

bah.. what happened was I wrote a post directed to 123625... then the other guy thought I was directing it to him... so then he replied to that.... but then I thought that was 123625 talking.... and then it messed up ..... so... just forget it.

Shame that my clever come back had to go to waste though... :P

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#255 jking197
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[QUOTE="123625"][QUOTE="FamiBox"]

Huh.. I was talking to 123625.. not you.

I'm no Christian. ..... what an insult :P

FamiBox

Fami you were never talking to me.

Sorry dudes... i totally messed up by missing one post.

ahhh... forget I said anything..... blah.. I'll try and fix it... maybe :?

Don't be sorry, I'm way over this debate anyway. If theres one thing I've learned it's never try to argue with a Christian, it's like arguing with a brick-wall.

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#256 123625
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[QUOTE="123625"]

[QUOTE="jking197"]How have I shot him down with blanks? i've given him loads of evidence and he's just repeating himself, go back and read. You'll see what I mean. You're obviosuly a blind christian then. jking197

You have not given a single shred of evidence only petty rants and insults, because you can't accept evolution is not fact. Prove me wrong and tell me why evolution is FACT

SHUT THE HELL UP AND STOP SAYING THE SAME THING PLEASE! I have given you evidence such as carbon dating, you are so god damn irritating. I told you how old the world really is, I told you about evolution, I've given you statistics, I've answered your questions repeatidly.

No you havent, our original topic was on evolution being fact or theory, you couldnt prove me wrong there so you changed the subject.

The age of the world doesnt go against the bible(cause the bible doesnt say how old the world is) You automatically assume that all christians beleive that its 6000 or so years old, when this is not the case. And also once again those ages cannot be determined as fact because we have not witnessed how the earth has began. They are just guess's and Carbon dating is not the only means of dating tell me what makes it more reliable than other methods?

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#257 FamiBox
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[QUOTE="FamiBox"][QUOTE="123625"][QUOTE="FamiBox"]

Huh.. I was talking to 123625.. not you.

I'm no Christian. ..... what an insult :P

jking197

Fami you were never talking to me.

Sorry dudes... i totally messed up by missing one post.

ahhh... forget I said anything..... blah.. I'll try and fix it... maybe :?

Don't be sorry, I'm way over this debate anyway. If theres one thing I've learned it's never try to argue with a Christian, it's like arguing with a brick-wall.

bah.. what happened was I wrote a post directed to 123625... then you thought I was directing it to you... so then you replied to that.... but then I thought that was 123625 talking.... and then it messed up ..... so... just forget it.

Shame that my clever come back had to go to waste though...

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#258 Jenova_Flare
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[QUOTE="123625"][QUOTE="xxDustmanxx"][QUOTE="SonKev"]

You forget one thing, natural selection is a theory, just an idea believed by people...

And no matter how many people believe it to be true, wont ever make it

SonKev

Evolution is backed up by loads of evidence, go do some research.

Its not a scientific fact though.

Some people will never understand this, and will argue and argue,

They are afraid of the thought of God being real

An atheist being afraid of god being real would not be atheist, as admitting fear of god places belief in it.

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[QUOTE="FamiBox"][QUOTE="123625"][QUOTE="FamiBox"]

Huh.. I was talking to 123625.. not you.

I'm no Christian. ..... what an insult :P

jking197

Fami you were never talking to me.

Sorry dudes... i totally messed up by missing one post.

ahhh... forget I said anything..... blah.. I'll try and fix it... maybe :?

Don't be sorry, I'm way over this debate anyway. If theres one thing I've learned it's never try to argue with a Christian, it's like arguing with a brick-wall.

True. The funny thing is that they also don't believe in nuclear power, or any sort of chemistry for that matter. Nobody has ever seen an atom split, it is all maths. I suppose they will now state that atomic theory is now incorrect.

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#260 Hewkii
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as long as there are things we don't know, there will be religion.
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#261 123625
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[QUOTE="jking197"][QUOTE="FamiBox"][QUOTE="123625"][QUOTE="FamiBox"]

Huh.. I was talking to 123625.. not you.

I'm no Christian. ..... what an insult :P

Chavyneebslod

Fami you were never talking to me.

Sorry dudes... i totally messed up by missing one post.

ahhh... forget I said anything..... blah.. I'll try and fix it... maybe :?

Don't be sorry, I'm way over this debate anyway. If theres one thing I've learned it's never try to argue with a Christian, it's like arguing with a brick-wall.

True. The funny thing is that they also don't believe in nuclear power, or any sort of chemistry for that matter. Nobody has ever seen an atom split, it is all maths. I suppose they will now state that atomic theory is now incorrect.

yes of course all christians are like that :roll:

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#262 jking197
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[QUOTE="jking197"][QUOTE="123625"]

[QUOTE="jking197"]How have I shot him down with blanks? i've given him loads of evidence and he's just repeating himself, go back and read. You'll see what I mean. You're obviosuly a blind christian then. 123625

You have not given a single shred of evidence only petty rants and insults, because you can't accept evolution is not fact. Prove me wrong and tell me why evolution is FACT

SHUT THE HELL UP AND STOP SAYING THE SAME THING PLEASE! I have given you evidence such as carbon dating, you are so god damn irritating. I told you how old the world really is, I told you about evolution, I've given you statistics, I've answered your questions repeatidly.

No you havent, our original topic was on evolution being fact or theory, you couldnt prove me wrong there so you changed the subject.

The age of the world doesnt go against the bible(cause the bible doesnt say how old the world is) You automatically assume that all christians beleive that its 6000 or so years old, when this is not the case. And also once again those ages cannot be determined as fact because we have not witnessed how the earth has began. They are just guess's and Carbon dating is not the only means of dating tell me what makes it more reliable than other methods?

Mate, I'm not going to try. You're like a brick wall, nothing will get through to you. Everything is blocked out. Why are you resisting carbon dating, its the most efficient way of dating. I don't understand how you can say it's not reliable, how can it be 4.6 billion years off? It's not guessing, you idiot. Scientists don't say hmm ill guess its 3 billion years old, they study rocks, they study every varible to get a near-specific date. Don't respond cause I really don't want to try to argue with you, you are pathetic and I find it pointless talking to you. You show no intelligence except you are too brainwashed with faith to even consider or achknowledge the possiblity that evolution is true and that the bible is wrong in alot of ways.

Like I said, You haven't witnessed god or jesus, there is 0% cold-hard physical proof of god or jesus, there is proof of evolution (maybe not 100%, but close due to physical evidence such as bones) and there is 100% proof the world is older than 6000 year (rock formation, civilisations, carbon dating, light, etc).

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They are just guess's and Carbon dating is not the only means of dating tell me what makes it more reliable than other methods?

123625

it isn't, actually. Carbon dating is only for things up to about 50,000 years ago. a more accurate dating for things like the age of the earth would be something like Uranium dating.

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[QUOTE="Chavyneebslod"][QUOTE="jking197"][QUOTE="FamiBox"][QUOTE="123625"][QUOTE="FamiBox"]

Huh.. I was talking to 123625.. not you.

I'm no Christian. ..... what an insult :P

123625

Fami you were never talking to me.

Sorry dudes... i totally messed up by missing one post.

ahhh... forget I said anything..... blah.. I'll try and fix it... maybe :?

Don't be sorry, I'm way over this debate anyway. If theres one thing I've learned it's never try to argue with a Christian, it's like arguing with a brick-wall.

True. The funny thing is that they also don't believe in nuclear power, or any sort of chemistry for that matter. Nobody has ever seen an atom split, it is all maths. I suppose they will now state that atomic theory is now incorrect.

yes of course all christians are like that :roll:

Actually i was referring to you and any christians like you.

So, can we actually split the atom?
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#265 FamiBox
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[QUOTE="123625"][QUOTE="jking197"][QUOTE="123625"]

[QUOTE="jking197"]How have I shot him down with blanks? i've given him loads of evidence and he's just repeating himself, go back and read. You'll see what I mean. You're obviosuly a blind christian then. jking197

You have not given a single shred of evidence only petty rants and insults, because you can't accept evolution is not fact. Prove me wrong and tell me why evolution is FACT

SHUT THE HELL UP AND STOP SAYING THE SAME THING PLEASE! I have given you evidence such as carbon dating, you are so god damn irritating. I told you how old the world really is, I told you about evolution, I've given you statistics, I've answered your questions repeatidly.

No you havent, our original topic was on evolution being fact or theory, you couldnt prove me wrong there so you changed the subject.

The age of the world doesnt go against the bible(cause the bible doesnt say how old the world is) You automatically assume that all christians beleive that its 6000 or so years old, when this is not the case. And also once again those ages cannot be determined as fact because we have not witnessed how the earth has began. They are just guess's and Carbon dating is not the only means of dating tell me what makes it more reliable than other methods?

Mate, I'm not going to try. You're like a brick wall, nothing will get through to you. Everything is blocked out. Why are you resisting carbon dating, its the most efficient way of dating. I don't understand how you can say it's not reliable, how can it be 4.6 billion years off? It's not guessing, you idiot. Scientists don't say hmm ill guess its 3 billion years old, they study rocks, they study every varible to get a near-specific date. Don't respond cause I really don't want to try to argue with you, you are pathetic and I find it pointless talking to you. You show no intelligence except you are too brainwashed with faith to even consider or achknowledge the possiblity that evolution is true and that the bible is wrong in alot of ways.

Like I said, You haven't witnessed god or jesus, there is 0% cold-hard physical proof of god or jesus, there is proof of evolution (maybe not 100%, but close due to physical evidence such as bones) and there is 100% proof the world is older than 6000 year (rock formation, civilisations, carbon dating, light, etc).

I'd give up debating if I were you then.

Waste of your time.

Just pity him and move on.

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[QUOTE="123625"]

They are just guess's and Carbon dating is not the only means of dating tell me what makes it more reliable than other methods?

Hewkii

it isn't, actually. Carbon dating is only for things up to about 50,000 years ago. a more accurate dating for things like the age of the earth would be something like Uranium dating.

Yes, you're right. Sorry I got the name mixed up, but either way It proves Christians are wrong.

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#267 123625
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[QUOTE="123625"][QUOTE="jking197"][QUOTE="123625"]

[QUOTE="jking197"]How have I shot him down with blanks? i've given him loads of evidence and he's just repeating himself, go back and read. You'll see what I mean. You're obviosuly a blind christian then. jking197

You have not given a single shred of evidence only petty rants and insults, because you can't accept evolution is not fact. Prove me wrong and tell me why evolution is FACT

SHUT THE HELL UP AND STOP SAYING THE SAME THING PLEASE! I have given you evidence such as carbon dating, you are so god damn irritating. I told you how old the world really is, I told you about evolution, I've given you statistics, I've answered your questions repeatidly.

No you havent, our original topic was on evolution being fact or theory, you couldnt prove me wrong there so you changed the subject.

The age of the world doesnt go against the bible(cause the bible doesnt say how old the world is) You automatically assume that all christians beleive that its 6000 or so years old, when this is not the case. And also once again those ages cannot be determined as fact because we have not witnessed how the earth has began. They are just guess's and Carbon dating is not the only means of dating tell me what makes it more reliable than other methods?

Mate, I'm not going to try. You're like a brick wall, nothing will get through to you. Everything is blocked out. Why are you resisting carbon dating, its the most efficient way of dating. I don't understand how you can say it's not reliable, how can it be 4.6 billion years off? It's not guessing, you idiot. Scientists don't say hmm ill guess its 3 billion years old, they study rocks, they study every varible to get a near-specific date. Don't respond cause I really don't want to try to argue with you, you are pathetic and I find it pointless talking to you. You show no intelligence except you are too brainwashed with faith to even consider or achknowledge the possiblity that evolution is true and that the bible is wrong in alot of ways.

Like I said, You haven't witnessed god or jesus, there is 0% cold-hard physical proof of god or jesus, there is proof of evolution (maybe not 100%, but close due to physical evidence such as bones) and there is 100% proof the world is older than 6000 year (rock formation, civilisations, carbon dating, light, etc).

You miss my initail point altogether and insult in return. Please don't call me a brickwall i could easily say the same.

You have told me how carbon dating is more reliable than some methods of dating, you are only claiming it to be so. You have not countered my argument that the age of the earth does not go with the bible. And i answered you, not all christian universally beleive the world was 6000 years old, nor does the world being billions of years old contradict the bible. Because it does not say what age the world is at. You constantly say i am brainwashed, when i could easily say the exact same.

And this supposove proof of evolution, what is it? Other than wild speculation on what could of happened.

And i have agreed with you on multiple times, I have no seen god, but i beleive in him.

Just as you beleive the THEORY of EVOLUTION. ITS FAITH!

And just because a scientist's says something is this and that, does that make it right?

You make illogical arguments and claims against me.

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[QUOTE="123625"][QUOTE="Chavyneebslod"][QUOTE="jking197"][QUOTE="FamiBox"][QUOTE="123625"][QUOTE="FamiBox"]

Huh.. I was talking to 123625.. not you.

I'm no Christian. ..... what an insult :P

Chavyneebslod

Fami you were never talking to me.

Sorry dudes... i totally messed up by missing one post.

ahhh... forget I said anything..... blah.. I'll try and fix it... maybe :?

Don't be sorry, I'm way over this debate anyway. If theres one thing I've learned it's never try to argue with a Christian, it's like arguing with a brick-wall.

True. The funny thing is that they also don't believe in nuclear power, or any sort of chemistry for that matter. Nobody has ever seen an atom split, it is all maths. I suppose they will now state that atomic theory is now incorrect.

yes of course all christians are like that :roll:

Actually i was referring to you and any christians like you.

So, can we actually split the atom?

yes we can but i don't see why its unbeleivable to christians.

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#269 123625
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[QUOTE="Hewkii"][QUOTE="123625"]

They are just guess's and Carbon dating is not the only means of dating tell me what makes it more reliable than other methods?

jking197

it isn't, actually. Carbon dating is only for things up to about 50,000 years ago. a more accurate dating for things like the age of the earth would be something like Uranium dating.

Yes, you're right. Sorry I got the name mixed up, but either way It proves Christians are wrong.

How? you simply think that all christians think the world is 6000 years old, when this is not true. The bible doesnt say how old the world is, thus it doesnt disprove it all.

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#270 FamiBox
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[QUOTE="jking197"][QUOTE="123625"][QUOTE="jking197"][QUOTE="123625"]

[QUOTE="jking197"]How have I shot him down with blanks? i've given him loads of evidence and he's just repeating himself, go back and read. You'll see what I mean. You're obviosuly a blind christian then. 123625

You have not given a single shred of evidence only petty rants and insults, because you can't accept evolution is not fact. Prove me wrong and tell me why evolution is FACT

SHUT THE HELL UP AND STOP SAYING THE SAME THING PLEASE! I have given you evidence such as carbon dating, you are so god damn irritating. I told you how old the world really is, I told you about evolution, I've given you statistics, I've answered your questions repeatidly.

No you havent, our original topic was on evolution being fact or theory, you couldnt prove me wrong there so you changed the subject.

The age of the world doesnt go against the bible(cause the bible doesnt say how old the world is) You automatically assume that all christians beleive that its 6000 or so years old, when this is not the case. And also once again those ages cannot be determined as fact because we have not witnessed how the earth has began. They are just guess's and Carbon dating is not the only means of dating tell me what makes it more reliable than other methods?

Mate, I'm not going to try. You're like a brick wall, nothing will get through to you. Everything is blocked out. Why are you resisting carbon dating, its the most efficient way of dating. I don't understand how you can say it's not reliable, how can it be 4.6 billion years off? It's not guessing, you idiot. Scientists don't say hmm ill guess its 3 billion years old, they study rocks, they study every varible to get a near-specific date. Don't respond cause I really don't want to try to argue with you, you are pathetic and I find it pointless talking to you. You show no intelligence except you are too brainwashed with faith to even consider or achknowledge the possiblity that evolution is true and that the bible is wrong in alot of ways.

Like I said, You haven't witnessed god or jesus, there is 0% cold-hard physical proof of god or jesus, there is proof of evolution (maybe not 100%, but close due to physical evidence such as bones) and there is 100% proof the world is older than 6000 year (rock formation, civilisations, carbon dating, light, etc).

You miss my initail point altogether and insult in return. Please don't call me a brickwall i could easily say the same.

You have told me how carbon dating is more reliable than some methods of dating, you are only claiming it to be so. You have not countered my argument that the age of the earth does not go with the bible. And i answered you, not all christian universally beleive the world was 6000 years old, nor does the world being billions of years old contradict the bible. Because it does not say what age the world is at. You constantly say i am brainwashed, when i could easily say the exact same.

And this supposove proof of evolution, what is it? Other than wild speculation on what could of happened.

And i have agreed with you on multiple times, I have no seen god, but i beleive in him.

Just as you beleive the THEORY of EVOLUTION. ITS FAITH!

And just because a scientist's says something is this and that, does that make it right?

You make illogical arguments and claims against me.

:lol:

... hehhehehehe. :lol:

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:lol:

... hehhehehehe. :lol:

By laughing a me, this shows me you have not enought intellegence to refute such claims.

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[QUOTE="jking197"][QUOTE="123625"][QUOTE="jking197"][QUOTE="123625"]

[QUOTE="jking197"]How have I shot him down with blanks? i've given him loads of evidence and he's just repeating himself, go back and read. You'll see what I mean. You're obviosuly a blind christian then. 123625

You have not given a single shred of evidence only petty rants and insults, because you can't accept evolution is not fact. Prove me wrong and tell me why evolution is FACT

SHUT THE HELL UP AND STOP SAYING THE SAME THING PLEASE! I have given you evidence such as carbon dating, you are so god damn irritating. I told you how old the world really is, I told you about evolution, I've given you statistics, I've answered your questions repeatidly.

No you havent, our original topic was on evolution being fact or theory, you couldnt prove me wrong there so you changed the subject.

The age of the world doesnt go against the bible(cause the bible doesnt say how old the world is) You automatically assume that all christians beleive that its 6000 or so years old, when this is not the case. And also once again those ages cannot be determined as fact because we have not witnessed how the earth has began. They are just guess's and Carbon dating is not the only means of dating tell me what makes it more reliable than other methods?

Mate, I'm not going to try. You're like a brick wall, nothing will get through to you. Everything is blocked out. Why are you resisting carbon dating, its the most efficient way of dating. I don't understand how you can say it's not reliable, how can it be 4.6 billion years off? It's not guessing, you idiot. Scientists don't say hmm ill guess its 3 billion years old, they study rocks, they study every varible to get a near-specific date. Don't respond cause I really don't want to try to argue with you, you are pathetic and I find it pointless talking to you. You show no intelligence except you are too brainwashed with faith to even consider or achknowledge the possiblity that evolution is true and that the bible is wrong in alot of ways.

Like I said, You haven't witnessed god or jesus, there is 0% cold-hard physical proof of god or jesus, there is proof of evolution (maybe not 100%, but close due to physical evidence such as bones) and there is 100% proof the world is older than 6000 year (rock formation, civilisations, carbon dating, light, etc).

You miss my initail point altogether and insult in return. Please don't call me a brickwall i could easily say the same.

You have told me how carbon dating is more reliable than some methods of dating, you are only claiming it to be so. You have not countered my argument that the age of the earth does not go with the bible. And i answered you, not all christian universally beleive the world was 6000 years old, nor does the world being billions of years old contradict the bible. Because it does not say what age the world is at. You constantly say i am brainwashed, when i could easily say the exact same.

And this supposove proof of evolution, what is it? Other than wild speculation on what could of happened.

And i have agreed with you on multiple times, I have no seen god, but i beleive in him.

Just as you beleive the THEORY of EVOLUTION. ITS FAITH!

And just because a scientist's says something is this and that, does that make it right?

You make illogical arguments and claims against me.

FFS! BONES! BONES! BONES! BONES! BONES! BONES! BONES! BONES! BONES! BONES! BONES! BONES! BONES! BONES! BONES! BONES! BONES! BONES! BONES! BONES! BONES! BONES! BONES! BONES! BONES! BONES! BONES! BONES! BONES! BONES! BONES! BONES! BONES! BONES! BONES! BONES! BONES! BONES! BONES! BONES! BONES! BONES! BONES! BONES! BONES! BONES! BONES! BONES! BONES! BONES! BONES! BONES! BONES! BONES! BONES! BONES! BONES! BONES! BONES! BONES! BONES! BONES! BONES! BONES! BONES! BONES! BONES! BONES! BONES! BONES! BONES! BONES! BONES! BONES! BONES! BONES! BONES! BONES! BONES! BONES!

DO I HAVE TO SAY IT AGAIN? WE HAVE BONES THAT PROVE IT, THAT IS THE PROOF, ITS NOT FAITH, WE ACTUALLY HAVE PHYSICAL EVIDENCE GET IT THROUGH YOUR THICK SKULL IVE WROTE IT 15 TIMES!

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There is one key point holing this debate back; a definition of evolution. So here it is -

Evolution is a change in the gene pool of a population over time (A gene is a hereditary unit that can be passed on unaltered for many generations. The gene pool is the set of all genes in a species or population)

Now we all know what evolution is, we can say whether or not it is scientific fact or theory.

It is both. Scientists have observed evolution occuring in fruit flies, therefore it is a fact. A way of explaining these facts is needed thus we get the theory of evolution which can make predictions that can be tested and verified.

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[QUOTE="jking197"][QUOTE="Hewkii"][QUOTE="123625"]

They are just guess's and Carbon dating is not the only means of dating tell me what makes it more reliable than other methods?

123625

it isn't, actually. Carbon dating is only for things up to about 50,000 years ago. a more accurate dating for things like the age of the earth would be something like Uranium dating.

Yes, you're right. Sorry I got the name mixed up, but either way It proves Christians are wrong.

How? you simply think that all christians think the world is 6000 years old, when this is not true. The bible doesnt say how old the world is, thus it doesnt disprove it all.

No, but it was believed "God" created the world in 12 days 6000 years ago. I've said that six times.You're missin the point.

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There is one key point holing this debate back; a definition of evolution. So here it is -

Evolution is a change in the gene pool of a population over time (A gene is a hereditary unit that can be passed on unaltered for many generations. The gene pool is the set of all genes in a species or population)

Now we all know what evolution is, we can say whether or not it is scientific fact or theory.

It is both. Scientists have observed evolution occuring in fruit flies, therefore it is a fact. A way of explaining these facts is needed thus we get the theory of evolution which can make predictions that can be tested and verified.

erc500

Plus we have a series of skelletons that show the gradual progression from ape to human.

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#276 erc500
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[QUOTE="erc500"]

There is one key point holing this debate back; a definition of evolution. So here it is -

Evolution is a change in the gene pool of a population over time (A gene is a hereditary unit that can be passed on unaltered for many generations. The gene pool is the set of all genes in a species or population)

Now we all know what evolution is, we can say whether or not it is scientific fact or theory.

It is both. Scientists have observed evolution occuring in fruit flies, therefore it is a fact. A way of explaining these facts is needed thus we get the theory of evolution which can make predictions that can be tested and verified.

jking197

Plus we have a series of skelletons that show the gradual progression from ape to human.

Indeed, my example was but one of many observation of evolution

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[QUOTE="123625"][QUOTE="jking197"][QUOTE="123625"][QUOTE="jking197"][QUOTE="123625"]

[QUOTE="jking197"]How have I shot him down with blanks? i've given him loads of evidence and he's just repeating himself, go back and read. You'll see what I mean. You're obviosuly a blind christian then. jking197

You have not given a single shred of evidence only petty rants and insults, because you can't accept evolution is not fact. Prove me wrong and tell me why evolution is FACT

SHUT THE HELL UP AND STOP SAYING THE SAME THING PLEASE! I have given you evidence such as carbon dating, you are so god damn irritating. I told you how old the world really is, I told you about evolution, I've given you statistics, I've answered your questions repeatidly.

No you havent, our original topic was on evolution being fact or theory, you couldnt prove me wrong there so you changed the subject.

The age of the world doesnt go against the bible(cause the bible doesnt say how old the world is) You automatically assume that all christians beleive that its 6000 or so years old, when this is not the case. And also once again those ages cannot be determined as fact because we have not witnessed how the earth has began. They are just guess's and Carbon dating is not the only means of dating tell me what makes it more reliable than other methods?

Mate, I'm not going to try. You're like a brick wall, nothing will get through to you. Everything is blocked out. Why are you resisting carbon dating, its the most efficient way of dating. I don't understand how you can say it's not reliable, how can it be 4.6 billion years off? It's not guessing, you idiot. Scientists don't say hmm ill guess its 3 billion years old, they study rocks, they study every varible to get a near-specific date. Don't respond cause I really don't want to try to argue with you, you are pathetic and I find it pointless talking to you. You show no intelligence except you are too brainwashed with faith to even consider or achknowledge the possiblity that evolution is true and that the bible is wrong in alot of ways.

Like I said, You haven't witnessed god or jesus, there is 0% cold-hard physical proof of god or jesus, there is proof of evolution (maybe not 100%, but close due to physical evidence such as bones) and there is 100% proof the world is older than 6000 year (rock formation, civilisations, carbon dating, light, etc).

You miss my initail point altogether and insult in return. Please don't call me a brickwall i could easily say the same.

You have told me how carbon dating is more reliable than some methods of dating, you are only claiming it to be so. You have not countered my argument that the age of the earth does not go with the bible. And i answered you, not all christian universally beleive the world was 6000 years old, nor does the world being billions of years old contradict the bible. Because it does not say what age the world is at. You constantly say i am brainwashed, when i could easily say the exact same.

And this supposove proof of evolution, what is it? Other than wild speculation on what could of happened.

And i have agreed with you on multiple times, I have no seen god, but i beleive in him.

Just as you beleive the THEORY of EVOLUTION. ITS FAITH!

And just because a scientist's says something is this and that, does that make it right?

You make illogical arguments and claims against me.

FFS! BONES! BONES! BONES! BONES! BONES! BONES! BONES! BONES! BONES! BONES! BONES! BONES! BONES! BONES! BONES! BONES! BONES! BONES! BONES! BONES! BONES! BONES! BONES! BONES! BONES! BONES! BONES! BONES! BONES! BONES! BONES! BONES! BONES! BONES! BONES! BONES! BONES! BONES! BONES! BONES! BONES! BONES! BONES! BONES! BONES! BONES! BONES! BONES! BONES! BONES! BONES! BONES! BONES! BONES! BONES! BONES! BONES! BONES! BONES! BONES! BONES! BONES! BONES! BONES! BONES! BONES! BONES! BONES! BONES! BONES! BONES! BONES! BONES! BONES! BONES! BONES! BONES! BONES! BONES! BONES!

DO I HAVE TO SAY IT AGAIN? WE HAVE BONES THAT PROVE IT, THAT IS THE PROOF, ITS NOT FAITH, WE ACTUALLY HAVE PHYSICAL EVIDENCE GET IT THROUGH YOUR THICK SKULL IVE WROTE IT 15 TIMES!

So what we found some bones? Do we know exactly what animal they belong to? No we do not. You have not countered a single one of my arguments, thus displaying your intellegence.

No you don't have physical evidence. Get what through me "thick skull" that we found some bones, thats real science for you there.

Ill end with this. Evolution is not fact, it is a scientific theory for somethign that may or may not be fact.

And as such it recqures faith. I have no doubt you will hurl more insults towards me but hey, what can i say? It only shows me what kind of person you are.

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By laughing a me, this shows me you have not enought intellegence to refute such claims.123625

:| ....................... Hehehehhhehehehehhe :lol: :lol: :lol:

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[QUOTE="123625"][QUOTE="jking197"][QUOTE="Hewkii"][QUOTE="123625"]

They are just guess's and Carbon dating is not the only means of dating tell me what makes it more reliable than other methods?

jking197

it isn't, actually. Carbon dating is only for things up to about 50,000 years ago. a more accurate dating for things like the age of the earth would be something like Uranium dating.

Yes, you're right. Sorry I got the name mixed up, but either way It proves Christians are wrong.

How? you simply think that all christians think the world is 6000 years old, when this is not true. The bible doesnt say how old the world is, thus it doesnt disprove it all.

No, but it was believed "God" created the world in 12 days 6000 years ago. I've said that six times.You're missin the point.

First it wasnt 12 days it was 7 and in the original hebrew those days werent 24 hour days.

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Ill end with this. Evolution is not fact, it is a scientific theory for somethign that may or may not be fact.

And as such it recqures faith.123625

at a base level, everything requires faith. the only thing you can prove for certain is yourself (the quote "I think, therefore I am." applies here).

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#281 jking197
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[QUOTE="jking197"][QUOTE="123625"][QUOTE="jking197"][QUOTE="123625"][QUOTE="jking197"][QUOTE="123625"]

[QUOTE="jking197"]How have I shot him down with blanks? i've given him loads of evidence and he's just repeating himself, go back and read. You'll see what I mean. You're obviosuly a blind christian then. 123625

You have not given a single shred of evidence only petty rants and insults, because you can't accept evolution is not fact. Prove me wrong and tell me why evolution is FACT

SHUT THE HELL UP AND STOP SAYING THE SAME THING PLEASE! I have given you evidence such as carbon dating, you are so god damn irritating. I told you how old the world really is, I told you about evolution, I've given you statistics, I've answered your questions repeatidly.

No you havent, our original topic was on evolution being fact or theory, you couldnt prove me wrong there so you changed the subject.

The age of the world doesnt go against the bible(cause the bible doesnt say how old the world is) You automatically assume that all christians beleive that its 6000 or so years old, when this is not the case. And also once again those ages cannot be determined as fact because we have not witnessed how the earth has began. They are just guess's and Carbon dating is not the only means of dating tell me what makes it more reliable than other methods?

Mate, I'm not going to try. You're like a brick wall, nothing will get through to you. Everything is blocked out. Why are you resisting carbon dating, its the most efficient way of dating. I don't understand how you can say it's not reliable, how can it be 4.6 billion years off? It's not guessing, you idiot. Scientists don't say hmm ill guess its 3 billion years old, they study rocks, they study every varible to get a near-specific date. Don't respond cause I really don't want to try to argue with you, you are pathetic and I find it pointless talking to you. You show no intelligence except you are too brainwashed with faith to even consider or achknowledge the possiblity that evolution is true and that the bible is wrong in alot of ways.

Like I said, You haven't witnessed god or jesus, there is 0% cold-hard physical proof of god or jesus, there is proof of evolution (maybe not 100%, but close due to physical evidence such as bones) and there is 100% proof the world is older than 6000 year (rock formation, civilisations, carbon dating, light, etc).

You miss my initail point altogether and insult in return. Please don't call me a brickwall i could easily say the same.

You have told me how carbon dating is more reliable than some methods of dating, you are only claiming it to be so. You have not countered my argument that the age of the earth does not go with the bible. And i answered you, not all christian universally beleive the world was 6000 years old, nor does the world being billions of years old contradict the bible. Because it does not say what age the world is at. You constantly say i am brainwashed, when i could easily say the exact same.

And this supposove proof of evolution, what is it? Other than wild speculation on what could of happened.

And i have agreed with you on multiple times, I have no seen god, but i beleive in him.

Just as you beleive the THEORY of EVOLUTION. ITS FAITH!

And just because a scientist's says something is this and that, does that make it right?

You make illogical arguments and claims against me.

FFS! BONES! BONES! BONES! BONES! BONES! BONES! BONES! BONES! BONES! BONES! BONES! BONES! BONES! BONES! BONES! BONES! BONES! BONES! BONES! BONES! BONES! BONES! BONES! BONES! BONES! BONES! BONES! BONES! BONES! BONES! BONES! BONES! BONES! BONES! BONES! BONES! BONES! BONES! BONES! BONES! BONES! BONES! BONES! BONES! BONES! BONES! BONES! BONES! BONES! BONES! BONES! BONES! BONES! BONES! BONES! BONES! BONES! BONES! BONES! BONES! BONES! BONES! BONES! BONES! BONES! BONES! BONES! BONES! BONES! BONES! BONES! BONES! BONES! BONES! BONES! BONES! BONES! BONES! BONES! BONES!

DO I HAVE TO SAY IT AGAIN? WE HAVE BONES THAT PROVE IT, THAT IS THE PROOF, ITS NOT FAITH, WE ACTUALLY HAVE PHYSICAL EVIDENCE GET IT THROUGH YOUR THICK SKULL IVE WROTE IT 15 TIMES!

So what we found some bones? Do we know exactly what animal they belong to? No we do not. You have not countered a single one of my arguments, thus displaying your intellegence.

No you don't have physical evidence. Get what through me "thick skull" that we found some bones, thats real science for you there.

Ill end with this. Evolution is not fact, it is a scientific theory for somethign that may or may not be fact.

And as such it recqures faith. I have no doubt you will hurl more insults towards me but hey, what can i say? It only shows me what kind of person you are.

And it shows me how stupid you are. I keep repeating and you keep asking the same questions as if i havent answered you. Its not a few bones, its many skelletons that show the transition from ape to human. We see the skulls change, the spines change, the stance change, etc. We can see evolution from the gradual transition of skelletons.

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[QUOTE="jking197"][QUOTE="123625"][QUOTE="jking197"][QUOTE="Hewkii"][QUOTE="123625"]

They are just guess's and Carbon dating is not the only means of dating tell me what makes it more reliable than other methods?

123625

it isn't, actually. Carbon dating is only for things up to about 50,000 years ago. a more accurate dating for things like the age of the earth would be something like Uranium dating.

Yes, you're right. Sorry I got the name mixed up, but either way It proves Christians are wrong.

How? you simply think that all christians think the world is 6000 years old, when this is not true. The bible doesnt say how old the world is, thus it doesnt disprove it all.

No, but it was believed "God" created the world in 12 days 6000 years ago. I've said that six times.You're missin the point.

First it wasnt 12 days it was 7 and in the original hebrew those days werent 24 hour days.

Still a load of crap, that has been completely disproven.

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[QUOTE="123625"][QUOTE="jking197"][QUOTE="123625"][QUOTE="jking197"][QUOTE="123625"][QUOTE="jking197"][QUOTE="123625"]

[QUOTE="jking197"]How have I shot him down with blanks? i've given him loads of evidence and he's just repeating himself, go back and read. You'll see what I mean. You're obviosuly a blind christian then. jking197

You have not given a single shred of evidence only petty rants and insults, because you can't accept evolution is not fact. Prove me wrong and tell me why evolution is FACT

SHUT THE HELL UP AND STOP SAYING THE SAME THING PLEASE! I have given you evidence such as carbon dating, you are so god damn irritating. I told you how old the world really is, I told you about evolution, I've given you statistics, I've answered your questions repeatidly.

No you havent, our original topic was on evolution being fact or theory, you couldnt prove me wrong there so you changed the subject.

The age of the world doesnt go against the bible(cause the bible doesnt say how old the world is) You automatically assume that all christians beleive that its 6000 or so years old, when this is not the case. And also once again those ages cannot be determined as fact because we have not witnessed how the earth has began. They are just guess's and Carbon dating is not the only means of dating tell me what makes it more reliable than other methods?

Mate, I'm not going to try. You're like a brick wall, nothing will get through to you. Everything is blocked out. Why are you resisting carbon dating, its the most efficient way of dating. I don't understand how you can say it's not reliable, how can it be 4.6 billion years off? It's not guessing, you idiot. Scientists don't say hmm ill guess its 3 billion years old, they study rocks, they study every varible to get a near-specific date. Don't respond cause I really don't want to try to argue with you, you are pathetic and I find it pointless talking to you. You show no intelligence except you are too brainwashed with faith to even consider or achknowledge the possiblity that evolution is true and that the bible is wrong in alot of ways.

Like I said, You haven't witnessed god or jesus, there is 0% cold-hard physical proof of god or jesus, there is proof of evolution (maybe not 100%, but close due to physical evidence such as bones) and there is 100% proof the world is older than 6000 year (rock formation, civilisations, carbon dating, light, etc).

You miss my initail point altogether and insult in return. Please don't call me a brickwall i could easily say the same.

You have told me how carbon dating is more reliable than some methods of dating, you are only claiming it to be so. You have not countered my argument that the age of the earth does not go with the bible. And i answered you, not all christian universally beleive the world was 6000 years old, nor does the world being billions of years old contradict the bible. Because it does not say what age the world is at. You constantly say i am brainwashed, when i could easily say the exact same.

And this supposove proof of evolution, what is it? Other than wild speculation on what could of happened.

And i have agreed with you on multiple times, I have no seen god, but i beleive in him.

Just as you beleive the THEORY of EVOLUTION. ITS FAITH!

And just because a scientist's says something is this and that, does that make it right?

You make illogical arguments and claims against me.

FFS! BONES! BONES! BONES! BONES! BONES! BONES! BONES! BONES! BONES! BONES! BONES! BONES! BONES! BONES! BONES! BONES! BONES! BONES! BONES! BONES! BONES! BONES! BONES! BONES! BONES! BONES! BONES! BONES! BONES! BONES! BONES! BONES! BONES! BONES! BONES! BONES! BONES! BONES! BONES! BONES! BONES! BONES! BONES! BONES! BONES! BONES! BONES! BONES! BONES! BONES! BONES! BONES! BONES! BONES! BONES! BONES! BONES! BONES! BONES! BONES! BONES! BONES! BONES! BONES! BONES! BONES! BONES! BONES! BONES! BONES! BONES! BONES! BONES! BONES! BONES! BONES! BONES! BONES! BONES! BONES!

DO I HAVE TO SAY IT AGAIN? WE HAVE BONES THAT PROVE IT, THAT IS THE PROOF, ITS NOT FAITH, WE ACTUALLY HAVE PHYSICAL EVIDENCE GET IT THROUGH YOUR THICK SKULL IVE WROTE IT 15 TIMES!

So what we found some bones? Do we know exactly what animal they belong to? No we do not. You have not countered a single one of my arguments, thus displaying your intellegence.

No you don't have physical evidence. Get what through me "thick skull" that we found some bones, thats real science for you there.

Ill end with this. Evolution is not fact, it is a scientific theory for somethign that may or may not be fact.

And as such it recqures faith. I have no doubt you will hurl more insults towards me but hey, what can i say? It only shows me what kind of person you are.

And it shows me how stupid you are. I keep repeating and you keep asking the same questions as if i havent answered you. Its not a few bones, its many skelletons that show the transition from ape to human. We see the skulls change, the spines change, the stance change, etc. We can see evolution from the gradual transition of skelletons.

No they could of just as easily been variants between different types of chimps and apes. Those bones prove nothing.

And not Variation is not evolution. Why don't you just accept that evolution is a theroy? Its not fact.

A fact is somethign we have observed, we have never observed evolution.

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Still a load of crap, that has been completely disproven. jking197

Yes CAUSE YOU SAID IT. and basic logic dictates that if you said it, it MUST BE TRUE!

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[QUOTE="jking197"][QUOTE="123625"][QUOTE="jking197"][QUOTE="123625"][QUOTE="jking197"][QUOTE="123625"][QUOTE="jking197"][QUOTE="123625"]

[QUOTE="jking197"]How have I shot him down with blanks? i've given him loads of evidence and he's just repeating himself, go back and read. You'll see what I mean. You're obviosuly a blind christian then. 123625

You have not given a single shred of evidence only petty rants and insults, because you can't accept evolution is not fact. Prove me wrong and tell me why evolution is FACT

SHUT THE HELL UP AND STOP SAYING THE SAME THING PLEASE! I have given you evidence such as carbon dating, you are so god damn irritating. I told you how old the world really is, I told you about evolution, I've given you statistics, I've answered your questions repeatidly.

No you havent, our original topic was on evolution being fact or theory, you couldnt prove me wrong there so you changed the subject.

The age of the world doesnt go against the bible(cause the bible doesnt say how old the world is) You automatically assume that all christians beleive that its 6000 or so years old, when this is not the case. And also once again those ages cannot be determined as fact because we have not witnessed how the earth has began. They are just guess's and Carbon dating is not the only means of dating tell me what makes it more reliable than other methods?

Mate, I'm not going to try. You're like a brick wall, nothing will get through to you. Everything is blocked out. Why are you resisting carbon dating, its the most efficient way of dating. I don't understand how you can say it's not reliable, how can it be 4.6 billion years off? It's not guessing, you idiot. Scientists don't say hmm ill guess its 3 billion years old, they study rocks, they study every varible to get a near-specific date. Don't respond cause I really don't want to try to argue with you, you are pathetic and I find it pointless talking to you. You show no intelligence except you are too brainwashed with faith to even consider or achknowledge the possiblity that evolution is true and that the bible is wrong in alot of ways.

Like I said, You haven't witnessed god or jesus, there is 0% cold-hard physical proof of god or jesus, there is proof of evolution (maybe not 100%, but close due to physical evidence such as bones) and there is 100% proof the world is older than 6000 year (rock formation, civilisations, carbon dating, light, etc).

You miss my initail point altogether and insult in return. Please don't call me a brickwall i could easily say the same.

You have told me how carbon dating is more reliable than some methods of dating, you are only claiming it to be so. You have not countered my argument that the age of the earth does not go with the bible. And i answered you, not all christian universally beleive the world was 6000 years old, nor does the world being billions of years old contradict the bible. Because it does not say what age the world is at. You constantly say i am brainwashed, when i could easily say the exact same.

And this supposove proof of evolution, what is it? Other than wild speculation on what could of happened.

And i have agreed with you on multiple times, I have no seen god, but i beleive in him.

Just as you beleive the THEORY of EVOLUTION. ITS FAITH!

And just because a scientist's says something is this and that, does that make it right?

You make illogical arguments and claims against me.

FFS! BONES! BONES! BONES! BONES! BONES! BONES! BONES! BONES! BONES! BONES! BONES! BONES! BONES! BONES! BONES! BONES! BONES! BONES! BONES! BONES! BONES! BONES! BONES! BONES! BONES! BONES! BONES! BONES! BONES! BONES! BONES! BONES! BONES! BONES! BONES! BONES! BONES! BONES! BONES! BONES! BONES! BONES! BONES! BONES! BONES! BONES! BONES! BONES! BONES! BONES! BONES! BONES! BONES! BONES! BONES! BONES! BONES! BONES! BONES! BONES! BONES! BONES! BONES! BONES! BONES! BONES! BONES! BONES! BONES! BONES! BONES! BONES! BONES! BONES! BONES! BONES! BONES! BONES! BONES! BONES!

DO I HAVE TO SAY IT AGAIN? WE HAVE BONES THAT PROVE IT, THAT IS THE PROOF, ITS NOT FAITH, WE ACTUALLY HAVE PHYSICAL EVIDENCE GET IT THROUGH YOUR THICK SKULL IVE WROTE IT 15 TIMES!

So what we found some bones? Do we know exactly what animal they belong to? No we do not. You have not countered a single one of my arguments, thus displaying your intellegence.

No you don't have physical evidence. Get what through me "thick skull" that we found some bones, thats real science for you there.

Ill end with this. Evolution is not fact, it is a scientific theory for somethign that may or may not be fact.

And as such it recqures faith. I have no doubt you will hurl more insults towards me but hey, what can i say? It only shows me what kind of person you are.

And it shows me how stupid you are. I keep repeating and you keep asking the same questions as if i havent answered you. Its not a few bones, its many skelletons that show the transition from ape to human. We see the skulls change, the spines change, the stance change, etc. We can see evolution from the gradual transition of skelletons.

No they could of just as easily been variants between different types of chimps and apes. Those bones prove nothing.

And not Variation is not evolution. Why don't you just accept that evolution is a theroy? Its not fact.

A fact is somethign we have observed, we have never observed evolution.

Noo... Because the aren't alive now, they evolved to us.

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#287 FamiBox
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[QUOTE="jking197"]Still a load of crap, that has been completely disproven. 123625

Yes CAUSE YOU SAID IT. and basic logic dictates that if you said it, it MUST BE TRUE!

So.. therefore.. if you "say" there is a god... it must be true?...

..... does not compute.

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#288 erc500
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There is one key point holing this debate back; a definition of evolution. So here it is -

Evolution is a change in the gene pool of a population over time (A gene is a hereditary unit that can be passed on unaltered for many generations. The gene pool is the set of all genes in a species or population)

Now we all know what evolution is, we can say whether or not it is scientific fact or theory.

It is both. Scientists have observed evolution occuring in fruit flies, therefore it is a fact. A way of explaining these facts is needed thus we get the theory of evolution which can make predictions that can be tested and verified.

erc500

Incase you didn't see it the first time

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#289 jking197
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[QUOTE="jking197"]Still a load of crap, that has been completely disproven. 123625

Yes CAUSE YOU SAID IT. and basic logic dictates that if you said it, it MUST BE TRUE!

No, because it has been proven by uranium dating, light, etc that it is older than 4.6 billion years and it took millions of years to make.

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#290 123625
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Noo... Because the aren't alive now, they evolved to us. jking197

FACEPALM* THAT MAKES NO SENSE! Those bones could of easily been varients within the same kind of animal.

They don't prove evolution at all! The only thing that can prove it is if its observed. Your arguments are becoming more are more pointless.

Just accept that Evolution is a theory not a proven fact! and move on.

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#291 123625
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[QUOTE="123625"]

[QUOTE="jking197"]Still a load of crap, that has been completely disproven. jking197

Yes CAUSE YOU SAID IT. and basic logic dictates that if you said it, it MUST BE TRUE!

No, because it has been proven by uranium dating, light, etc that it is older than 4.6 billion years and it took millions of years to make.

I explained those days werent 24 hour days! God please, i know you love me and are testing me. But please make him stop!

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#292 james28893
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[QUOTE="123625"] [QUOTE="123625"]

When i see a whale give birth to a cow. I'll beleive you.

Also the only religion causing Holy wars is Radical Islam.

xxDustmanxx

Evolution doesn't work that way.

[QUOTE="xxDustmanxx"][QUOTE="123625"][QUOTE="xxDustmanxx"][QUOTE="SonKev"]

You forget one thing, natural selection is a theory, just an idea believed by people...

And no matter how many people believe it to be true, wont ever make it

SonKev

Evolution is backed up by loads of evidence, go do some research.

Its not a scientific fact though.

Nothing in science is ever proven to be 100% fact,weve explained this to you.

Also a whale will never give birth to a cow, thats impossible.

So you just admited, its still a theory and can never be proven

Scientific laws are absolute

So is ID correct? Is there any evidence to support it?

[QUOTE="SonKev"][QUOTE="123625"][QUOTE="xxDustmanxx"][QUOTE="SonKev"]

You forget one thing, natural selection is a theory, just an idea believed by people...

And no matter how many people believe it to be true, wont ever make it

123625

Evolution is backed up by loads of evidence, go do some research.

Its not a scientific fact though.

Some people will never understand this, and will argue and argue,

They are afraid of the thought of God being real

Define me the meaning of science.

As i have it, it means this.

To Observe and explain.

So far evolution is just explanation with little of it observed.

And i agree they are afraid of god being real.

I'm not afraid of God being real. Are you afraid of God not being real?

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I explained those days werent 24 hour days!

123625

though I didn't see anything referencing that other than your post.

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#294 jking197
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[QUOTE="jking197"]Noo... Because the aren't alive now, they evolved to us. 123625

FACEPALM* THAT MAKES NO SENSE! Those bones could of easily been varients within the same kind of animal.

They don't prove evolution at all! The only thing that can prove it is if its observed. Your arguments are becoming more are more pointless.

Just accept that Evolution is a theory not a proven fact! and move on.

Then you accept god is a theory and not a proven fact.

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#295 123625
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[QUOTE="123625"]

I explained those days werent 24 hour days!

Hewkii

though I didn't see anything referencing that other than your post.

Why should i reference when he doesnt even bother.

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#296 jking197
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[QUOTE="Hewkii"][QUOTE="123625"]

I explained those days werent 24 hour days!

123625

though I didn't see anything referencing that other than your post.

Why should i reference when he doesnt even bother.

Do it. But why does it matter? It's still wrong either way. You're a few billion years off.

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#297 123625
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[QUOTE="123625"]

[QUOTE="jking197"]Noo... Because the aren't alive now, they evolved to us. jking197

FACEPALM* THAT MAKES NO SENSE! Those bones could of easily been varients within the same kind of animal.

They don't prove evolution at all! The only thing that can prove it is if its observed. Your arguments are becoming more are more pointless.

Just accept that Evolution is a theory not a proven fact! and move on.

Then you accept god is a theory and not a proven fact.

God is not a theory its a beleif of FAITH, Religion isnt science its FAITH.

Science is obsreavation as fact! the explaining it!

But you seem to persist that some how evolution is real despite the fact we have not witnessed it.

Thus its a theory. I am Done with you nothing will convince and as jesus said.

Turn the other cheek.

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#298 james28893
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[QUOTE="jking197"][QUOTE="123625"]

[QUOTE="jking197"]Noo... Because the aren't alive now, they evolved to us. 123625

FACEPALM* THAT MAKES NO SENSE! Those bones could of easily been varients within the same kind of animal.

They don't prove evolution at all! The only thing that can prove it is if its observed. Your arguments are becoming more are more pointless.

Just accept that Evolution is a theory not a proven fact! and move on.

Then you accept god is a theory and not a proven fact.

God is not a theory its a beleif of FAITH, Religion isnt science its FAITH.

Science is obsreavation as fact! the explaining it!

But you seem to persist that some how evolution is real despite the fact we have not witnessed it.

Thus its a theory. I am Done with you nothing will convince and as jesus said.

Turn the other cheek.

But teh Jesus didn't exist. Seriously though I believe he did, I just find it dubious that he performed miracles.

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#299 FamiBox
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[QUOTE="jking197"][QUOTE="123625"]

[QUOTE="jking197"]Noo... Because the aren't alive now, they evolved to us. 123625

FACEPALM* THAT MAKES NO SENSE! Those bones could of easily been varients within the same kind of animal.

They don't prove evolution at all! The only thing that can prove it is if its observed. Your arguments are becoming more are more pointless.

Just accept that Evolution is a theory not a proven fact! and move on.

Then you accept god is a theory and not a proven fact.

God is not a theory its a beleif of FAITH, Religion isnt science its FAITH.

Science is obsreavation as fact! the explaining it!

But you seem to persist that some how evolution is real despite the fact we have not witnessed it.

Thus its a theory. I am Done with you nothing will convince and as jesus said.

Turn the other cheek.

Jesus?... nah, He's just a mythological character from a book of nonsense.

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#300 jking197
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[QUOTE="123625"][QUOTE="jking197"][QUOTE="123625"]

[QUOTE="jking197"]Noo... Because the aren't alive now, they evolved to us. james28893

FACEPALM* THAT MAKES NO SENSE! Those bones could of easily been varients within the same kind of animal.

They don't prove evolution at all! The only thing that can prove it is if its observed. Your arguments are becoming more are more pointless.

Just accept that Evolution is a theory not a proven fact! and move on.

Then you accept god is a theory and not a proven fact.

God is not a theory its a beleif of FAITH, Religion isnt science its FAITH.

Science is obsreavation as fact! the explaining it!

But you seem to persist that some how evolution is real despite the fact we have not witnessed it.

Thus its a theory. I am Done with you nothing will convince and as jesus said.

Turn the other cheek.

But te Jesus didn't exist. Seriously though I believe he did, I just find it dubious that he performed miracles.

I think he did exist, but he was over-glorified.