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The CIA releases information many many years into the future, when the effects of their crimes have already been felt. If the public knew exactly how clownish our government is behind closed doors, it might put pressure on the government to change its ways.Choga

Here's a nice leak - taxpayer-funded security company pimps little boys to stoned cops in Afghanistan. ****'s so bad the Afghan Interior Minister asked the US to quash the story, but the embassy advised him to chill. They basically gambled on the worthlesness of the media, and guess what - Washington Post's article about this was neutered to the point of near-falsehood.

11 Afghans were arrested for this, but none of the "foreign mentors" (that's the term used by the freakin' minister).

I suppose it would have been better for the security of the US if this cable was never leaked...

The Guardian article about the cable

Link to another article which presents this, uh, ritual better:After the show is over, their services are auctioned off to the highest bidder, who will sometimes purchase a boy outright. And by services, we mean anal sex: The State Department has called bacha bazi a "widespread, culturally accepted form of male rape." (While it may be culturally accepted, it violates both Sharia law and Afghan civil code.)

Assange said in an interview with Forbes that Wikileaks' next megaleak would be on a major US bank and he said it might potentially take it and some other banks down. I'm sure Americans would like to know what C-level executives are doing with their money.

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Oh well. Atleast he tried to bring some truth to this dying piece of **** we call a world.

Here's a nice leak - taxpayer-funded security company pimps little boys to stoned cops in Afghanistan. ****'s so bad the Afghan Interior Minister asked the US to quash the story, but the embassy advised him to chill. They basically gambled on the worthlesness of the media, and guess what - Washington Post's article about this was neutered to the point of near-falsehood.

11 Afghans were arrested for this, but none of the "foreign mentors" (that's the term used by the freakin' minister).

I suppose it would have been better for the security of the US if this cable was never leaked...

The Guardian article about the cable

Link to another article which presents this, uh, ritual better:After the show is over, their services are auctioned off to the highest bidder, who will sometimes purchase a boy outright. And by services, we mean anal sex: The State Department has called bacha bazi a "widespread, culturally accepted form of male rape." (While it may be culturally accepted, it violates both Sharia law and Afghan civil code.)

Baranga

How Assange release information so vital to our national security? This is an outrage! He should be tried for treason!

/sarcasm

The corrupt governments around the world cheer for a chinese guy who opposes the lies and oppression of the chinese government and give him a nobel price. Yet when the same happens with a guy on their side he is a filthy terrorist. Gotta love the honesty.kuraimen

well thats a communist country , we are a freedom loving free freedom country of the free, hes a terrorist for doing that to us. /sarcasm

gotta love the hypocrisy

Thanks for posting - I don't really like threads like this because we always get someone who has these weird theories and false patriotism. Its sad to see people buying into the national security bs they're threading. And the girl already went public about it being consensual.

I heard about this too, I think maybe they would try to put some sort of act so they can charge him with somthing... It could have been an easy conspricacy to bring up because you can get anyone to put claims to these. you know what I mean? So I am unsure how these cour hearings will play out.

If they did do this to stop him from leaking, than I believe they will fail, while he is in prison, others on his staff will continue to leak information. Which, I am okay with because I believe his documents are probably the most truthful informaiton about our government, whereas, anything from governments tends to be scripted, which leaves out important information.

[QUOTE="EvilSelf"]

Pathetic is what is happening. Where is the freedom of speech and right to know the truth? Blaming WikiLeaks for its potential "cause of deaths"?

Espada12

Obviously they do not have any facts about this situation because they would have tried him with treason and what not. So, his leaks are propbably scripted before releasing.

Assange said in an interview with Forbes that Wikileaks' next megaleak would be on a major US bank and he said it might potentially take it and some other banks down. I'm sure Americans would like to know what C-level executives are doing with their money.

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exiledsnake

[QUOTE="Espada12"]

[QUOTE="EvilSelf"]

Pathetic is what is happening. Where is the freedom of speech and right to know the truth? Blaming WikiLeaks for its potential "cause of deaths"?

First_Descent

Obviously they do not have any facts about this situation because they would have tried him with treason and what not. So, his leaks are propbably scripted before releasing.

none of the them have the "facts" on their side. For all we know both sides could be lying. But one side put the documents away and then got mad after they released.. so logic tells me that wikileaks is right and the government is wrong. simple.

[QUOTE="Espada12"]

[QUOTE="EvilSelf"]

Pathetic is what is happening. Where is the freedom of speech and right to know the truth? Blaming WikiLeaks for its potential "cause of deaths"?

First_Descent

Obviously they do not have any facts about this situation because they would have tried him with treason and what not. So, his leaks are propbably scripted before releasing.

[QUOTE="exiledsnake"]

Assange said in an interview with Forbes that Wikileaks' next megaleak would be on a major US bank and he said it might potentially take it and some other banks down. I'm sure Americans would like to know what C-level executives are doing with their money.

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t3hrubikscube

[QUOTE="t3hrubikscube"][QUOTE="exiledsnake"]

Assange said in an interview with Forbes that Wikileaks' next megaleak would be on a major US bank and he said it might potentially take it and some other banks down. I'm sure Americans would like to know what C-level executives are doing with their money.

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testfactor888

Now Wikileaks supporters are trying to steal people's credit card information by hacking the MasterCard website.

Just goes to show that Wikileaks supporters are by and large criminals.

"Haha, as a general rule I dislike banks, so I'm looking forward to it regardlessly."

have you thought about what will happen to all the people who will lose their money?

Now Wikileaks supporters are trying to steal people's credit card information by hacking the MasterCard website.

Just goes to show that Wikileaks supporters are by and large criminals.

GTA_fan999

Now Wikileaks supporters are trying to steal people's credit card information by hacking the MasterCard website.

Just goes to show that Wikileaks supporters are by and large criminals.

GTA_fan999

so everyone who supports wikileaks is a criminal and everyone who supports the government is a zombie sheep who follows orders.

now that the generalizations are out of the way, what now?

"Haha, as a general rule I dislike banks, so I'm looking forward to it regardlessly."

have you thought about what will happen to all the people who will lose their money?

Whatuptho

Thats if of course Bank of America was shut down because of this and that is very doubtful.

It will likely be damaging but I doubt they have info that could effectively close them down

I don't have a MC, but I hope these hackers end up releasing credit card numbers of some Wikileak supporters. That would be great.

GTA_fan999

so , it would be great if people lose their money, because they dont agree with your opinion about wikileaks?

[QUOTE="GTA_fan999"]

Now Wikileaks supporters are trying to steal people's credit card information by hacking the MasterCard website.

Just goes to show that Wikileaks supporters are by and large criminals.

t3hrubikscube

No wonder the governments of the world are so dirty because they know that most people just don't care to know the truth. Most people don't even know who their elected officials are.

[QUOTE="GTA_fan999"]

I don't have a MC, but I hope these hackers end up releasing credit card numbers of some Wikileak supporters. That would be great.

so , it would be great if people lose their money, because they dont agree with your opinion about wikileaks?

[QUOTE="GTA_fan999"][QUOTE="Half-Way"]

so , it would be great if people lose their money, because they dont agree with your opinion about wikileaks?

Lab392

Wikileaks is all about revealing information about the shady and possibly illegal operations of the government. Why you would compare that to people's credit card information is beyond me.

[QUOTE="Lab392"]

[QUOTE="GTA_fan999"] It would be poetic justice and will make those people that support Wikileaks accountable for their own hypocrisy. It has nothing to do with my opinion, it has to do with Wikileak supporters' opinions. They should have no problem with their own information stolen and published online, they're all about transparency of information.LJS9502_basic

Wikileaks is all about revealing information about the shady and possibly illegal operations of the government. Why you would compare that to people's credit card information is beyond me.

the US government has already proven that they are untrustworthy. I dont see how you can have so much trust in them really.

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="Lab392"]

Wikileaks is all about revealing information about the shady and possibly illegal operations of the government. Why you would compare that to people's credit card information is beyond me.

Half-Way

the US government has already proven that they are untrustworthy. I dont see how you can have so much trust in them really.

[QUOTE="htekemerald"]

Its surprises me how much american's are opposed to free speech.

Whatuptho

how is that free speech?

he didnt write the articles, they were STOLEN

are you telling me that if i hacked your personal accounts , myspace, facebook, photobucket etc. etc

as well as released your address, where you work, where you can be found, bank deposit boxes i can exercise that as FREE SPEECH??

Hacking said accounts would be a violation of your laws.

You do have the right to release that information.

[QUOTE="Half-Way"]

[QUOTE="GTA_fan999"]

I don't have a MC, but I hope these hackers end up releasing credit card numbers of some Wikileak supporters. That would be great.

GTA_fan999

so , it would be great if people lose their money, because they dont agree with your opinion about wikileaks?

[QUOTE="testfactor888"][QUOTE="Half-Way"]

the US government has already proven that they are untrustworthy. I dont see how you can have so much trust in them really.

LJS9502_basic

it might turn out that wikileaks inst as trustworthy as they pretend to be. But all the information i currently have about the american government and wikileaks make me go in favor of wikileaks.

afterall our opinions are based of the information we posses, there is also some bias involved.

"Hacking said accounts would be a violation of your laws.

You do have the right to release that information."

what?

how is it a violation as well as a right?

[QUOTE="Half-Way"]

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]Is it really?testfactor888

the US government has already proven that they are untrustworthy. I dont see how you can have so much trust in them really.

it might turn out that wikileaks inst as trustworthy as they pretend to be. But all the information i currently have about the american government and wikileaks make me go in favor of wikileaks.

afterall our opinions are based of the information we posses, there is also some bias involved.

Half-Way

[QUOTE="Half-Way"]

it might turn out that wikileaks inst as trustworthy as they pretend to be. But all the information i currently have about the american government and wikileaks make me go in favor of wikileaks.

afterall our opinions are based of the information we posses, there is also some bias involved.

LJS9502_basic

well on one side we have a government that lied about a war, on the other we have a site that publishes leaks sent by informants.

Im questioning both sides motives. But one of them was proven to be dishonest before, so im going to be on the side of wikileaks for now.

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]

[QUOTE="Half-Way"]

it might turn out that wikileaks inst as trustworthy as they pretend to be. But all the information i currently have about the american government and wikileaks make me go in favor of wikileaks.

afterall our opinions are based of the information we posses, there is also some bias involved.

Half-Way

well on one side we have a government that lied about a war, on the other we have a site that publishes leaks sent by informants.

Im questioning both sides motives. But one of them was proven to be dishonest before, so im going to be on the side of wikileaks for now.

Currently visa is under attack too.

Currently visa is under attack too.

fooZar777

[QUOTE="Half-Way"]

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]Eh much of what was released was not something that surprised anyone. Thus, there was nothing new released. However, I find the motivations suspect. Seems people are willing to be skeptical....but only on one side. Perhaps questioning both sides might give a clearer picture......

LJS9502_basic

well on one side we have a government that lied about a war, on the other we have a site that publishes leaks sent by informants.

Im questioning both sides motives. But one of them was proven to be dishonest before, so im going to be on the side of wikileaks for now.

i was talking about the government lying about the motives behind the "war on terror" , "weapons of mass destruction" ect.

[QUOTE="fooZar777"]

Currently visa is under attack too.

LJS9502_basic

What are you implying?

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="Half-Way"]

well on one side we have a government that lied about a war, on the other we have a site that publishes leaks sent by informants.

Im questioning both sides motives. But one of them was proven to be dishonest before, so im going to be on the side of wikileaks for now.

Half-Way

i was talking about the government lying about the motives behind the "war on terror" , "weapons of mass destruction" ect.

[QUOTE="Half-Way"]

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]Leaked documents and at least one video that was edited and editorialized incorrectly. I don't trust people that edit to tell me the truth TBH...LJS9502_basic

i was talking about the government lying about the motives behind the "war on terror" , "weapons of mass destruction" ect.

attack random country which didnt have anything to do with it = in response to 9-11 ya..

watch this video; http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f_A77N5WKWM bush admits that there were NO weapons what so ever.

;) information my friend , information

this is my point; the government = already proven untrustworthy , unlike wikileaks.

So for now, im on their side.

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="Half-Way"]

i was talking about the government lying about the motives behind the "war on terror" , "weapons of mass destruction" ect.

Half-Way

attack random country which didnt have anything to do with it = in response to 9-11 ya..

watch this video; http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f_A77N5WKWM bush admits that there were NO weapons what so ever.

;) information my friend , information

this is my point; the government = already proven untrustworthy , unlike wikileaks.

So for now, im on their side.

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="Half-Way"]

i was talking about the government lying about the motives behind the "war on terror" , "weapons of mass destruction" ect.

Half-Way

attack random country which didnt have anything to do with it = in response to 9-11 ya..

watch this video; http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f_A77N5WKWM bush admits that there were NO weapons what so ever.

;) information my friend , information

this is my point; the government = already proven untrustworthy , unlike wikileaks.

So for now, im on their side.

[QUOTE="Half-Way"]

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]Eh...everything was already out about the war on terror...which is in response to 9-11 by the way and the WMDs that Iraq had but removed before the Iraq War. Didn't really need WikiLeaks for that at all. Nonetheless, I was talking about how disingenuous they are to edit the material they release. That smacks of an agenda...and not a truthful one.LJS9502_basic

attack random country which didnt have anything to do with it = in response to 9-11 ya..

watch this video; http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f_A77N5WKWM bush admits that there were NO weapons what so ever.

;) information my friend , information

this is my point; the government = already proven untrustworthy , unlike wikileaks.

So for now, im on their side.

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]

[QUOTE="Half-Way"]

attack random country which didnt have anything to do with it = in response to 9-11 ya..

watch this video; http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f_A77N5WKWM bush admits that there were NO weapons what so ever.

;) information my friend , information

this is my point; the government = already proven untrustworthy , unlike wikileaks.

So for now, im on their side.

kuraimen

BTW as more time pass I honestly believe Assange is the face of a movement to get this bill passed.

http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/news/2010/11/senator-web-censorship-bill-a-bunker-busting-cluster-bomb.ars

I'm sure support for this is increasing the more assange leaks, no matter how trivial the actual data is. Remember guys, a democrat introduced this bill.