So are you for it or against it. Im all for it, there are some sick people in this world you shouldnt be alive (Im sorry but its true) so I feel if they killed someone they should die too, you know an eye for an eye type thing!!!!!
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I believe you lose certain rights when you take them from others. So I am pro-Death Penalty. The accusers must absolutely without a doubt prove it though. No reason to kill an innocent person because you think they did it.So are you for it or against it. Im all for it, there are some sick people in this world you shouldnt be alive (Im sorry but its true) so I feel if they killed someone they should die too, you know an eye for an eye type thing!!!!!
x8VXU6
[QUOTE="x8VXU6"]I believe you lose certain rights when you take them from others. They already lose the right to vote, the right to freedom, the right to bear arms, and the right to privacy. Why do they deserve losing the right to life in addition to it?So are you for it or against it. Im all for it, there are some sick people in this world you shouldnt be alive (Im sorry but its true) so I feel if they killed someone they should die too, you know an eye for an eye type thing!!!!!
Zyrokin
Against. Cost too much and its not a deterrent. wstfldOnly costs a lot in the current US system. In reality getting the local sheriff to shoot someone is incredibly cheap.
[QUOTE="Zyrokin"][QUOTE="x8VXU6"]I believe you lose certain rights when you take them from others. So I am pro-Death Penalty. The accusers must absolutely without a doubt prove it though. No reason to kill an innocent person because you think they did it. They already lose the right to vote, the right to freedom, the right to bear arms, and the right to privacy. Why do they deserve losing the right to life in addition to it? Way to quote my whole statement. Let me fix that for you. Ok... Now, they lose the right because they stole another life. Now, I feel intentional murder is more so the reason. And like I said, I think it should be proven with out a doubt. Accidents happen, but if you take a life why do you deserve to live?So are you for it or against it. Im all for it, there are some sick people in this world you shouldnt be alive (Im sorry but its true) so I feel if they killed someone they should die too, you know an eye for an eye type thing!!!!!
Theokhoth
Against. Cost too much and its not a deterrent. wstfldIt only costs too much because of the ridiculous appeals process. I am for the death penalty and I think we should use it more often to punish murderers, rapists, pedophiles, etc.
killing them would, cuz if there alive our tax money would have to pay for them the rest of there life and that aint cheap. As long as they did it No, killing them costs more due to the appeals process: trials, lawyers, judges, juries, etc, cost more than life in prison.[QUOTE="TheShadowLord07"]
the one that cost less.
x8VXU6
For if you can truly prove it. Obviously if you have doubt then you keep them on a sort of death row setup until evidence is produced that cures the doubts. At some point you have to draw the line and say that these people aren't worth rehabilitating the same way you take a patient off life support. However at the level of proof required they'd probably be killed be SWAT well before they reached a courtroom. [QUOTE="wstfld"]Against. Cost too much and its not a deterrent. markop2003Only costs a lot in the current US system. In reality getting the local sheriff to shoot someone is incredibly cheap.
The thing is, however, if you have some doubt then they shouldn't even be in prison in the first place. Our system isn't meant to punish those who are "probably guilty". It's suppose to punish those who's guilt is established beyond all reasonable doubt.
For, pop a round and get it done, if someone kills he ought to be killed its expensive keeping this inmate at 40k a year.
I am for the death penalty in cases where there is no doubt of the person's guilt. I also think ,in such cases, the death penalty should be administered quickly and there should not be any way to draw out the sentencing through appeals.
So are you for it or against it. Im all for it, there are some sick people in this world you shouldnt be alive (Im sorry but its true) so I feel if they killed someone they should die too, you know an eye for an eye type thing!!!!!
x8VXU6
Totally agree
So anyone who could possibly be innocent (there's no such thing as "no doubt" of the person's guilt) would have no way of appealing for his life.I am for the death penalty in cases where there is no doubt of the person's guilt. I also think ,in such cases, the death penalty should be administered quickly and there should not be any way to draw out the sentencing through appeals.
UnknownSniper65
I am for the death penalty in cases where there is no doubt of the person's guilt. I also think ,in such cases, the death penalty should be administered quickly and there should not be any way to draw out the sentencing through appeals.
UnknownSniper65
Again, presumably there is no doubt period, otherwise there is no conviction. That's the way our system is set up to work. Yet year after year people are released from prison after it having been discovered that they actually were innocent all along.
[QUOTE="UnknownSniper65"]So anyone who could possibly be innocent (there's no such thing as "no doubt" of the person's guilt) would have no way of appealing for his life.I am for the death penalty in cases where there is no doubt of the person's guilt. I also think ,in such cases, the death penalty should be administered quickly and there should not be any way to draw out the sentencing through appeals.
Theokhoth
Yes there is
killing them would, cuz if there alive our tax money would have to pay for them the rest of there life and that aint cheap. As long as they did it[QUOTE="TheShadowLord07"]
the one that cost less.
x8VXU6
Im pretty sure it cost more for the government to kill a person.
So anyone who could possibly be innocent (there's no such thing as "no doubt" of the person's guilt) would have no way of appealing for his life.[QUOTE="Theokhoth"][QUOTE="UnknownSniper65"]
I am for the death penalty in cases where there is no doubt of the person's guilt. I also think ,in such cases, the death penalty should be administered quickly and there should not be any way to draw out the sentencing through appeals.
UnknownSniper65
Yes there is
No there isn't. Every single jury conviction is based on "without reasonable doubt," not "without doubt." This is because juries can be and sometimes are wrong. There is absolutely no such thing as "no doubt" in the legal system.Reasonable doubt in numerical terms means, for example, 98%. That is not 100% guilty, that is probably guilty, it's impossible to prove 100% guilt.The thing is, however, if you have some doubt then they shouldn't even be in prison in the first place. Our system isn't meant to punish those who are "probably guilty". It's suppose to punish those who's guilt is established beyond all reasonable doubt.
worlock77
[QUOTE="UnknownSniper65"][QUOTE="Theokhoth"] So anyone who could possibly be innocent (there's no such thing as "no doubt" of the person's guilt) would have no way of appealing for his life.Theokhoth
Yes there is
No there isn't. Every single jury conviction is based on "without reasonable doubt," not "without doubt." This is because juries can be and sometimes are wrong. There is absolutely no such thing as "no doubt" in the legal system.Plenty of people have commited crimes in full view of the public or cameras. In that case there is no doubt in a practical sense that they have commited the crime. Dozens of people saw them do it or they were caught on camera.
If you're going to split hairs on this argument then we have nothing to discuss.
No there isn't. Every single jury conviction is based on "without reasonable doubt," not "without doubt." This is because juries can be and sometimes are wrong. There is absolutely no such thing as "no doubt" in the legal system.[QUOTE="Theokhoth"][QUOTE="UnknownSniper65"]
Yes there is
UnknownSniper65
Plenty of people have commited crimes in full view of the public or cameras. In that case there is no doubt in a practical sense that they have commited the crime. Dozens of people saw them do it or they were caught on camera.
If you're going to split hairs on this argument then we have nothing to discuss.
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