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#1 x8VXU6
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So are you for it or against it. Im all for it, there are some sick people in this world you shouldnt be alive (Im sorry but its true) so I feel if they killed someone they should die too, you know an eye for an eye type thing!!!!!

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#2 Fried_Shrimp
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Against. That's why I'm glad to live in the UK. America sucks for having the death penalty.
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#3 wstfld
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Against. Cost too much and its not a deterrent.
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#4 Zyrokin
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So are you for it or against it. Im all for it, there are some sick people in this world you shouldnt be alive (Im sorry but its true) so I feel if they killed someone they should die too, you know an eye for an eye type thing!!!!!

x8VXU6
I believe you lose certain rights when you take them from others. So I am pro-Death Penalty. The accusers must absolutely without a doubt prove it though. No reason to kill an innocent person because you think they did it.
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#5 Theokhoth
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Completely against. There is no consistent reason to have it for any crime, especially in a civilized society with an enlightened penal system.
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#6 xTheExploited
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I would say I'm against it. I'm more pro letting them rot in prison and also some people on death row COULD be innocent. However, there are many people who I would not care if they faced the death penalty or not.
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#7 Theokhoth
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[QUOTE="x8VXU6"]

So are you for it or against it. Im all for it, there are some sick people in this world you shouldnt be alive (Im sorry but its true) so I feel if they killed someone they should die too, you know an eye for an eye type thing!!!!!

Zyrokin
I believe you lose certain rights when you take them from others.

They already lose the right to vote, the right to freedom, the right to bear arms, and the right to privacy. Why do they deserve losing the right to life in addition to it?
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#8 TheShadowLord07
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the one that cost less.

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#9 rawsavon
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In theory...FOR In practice...Against -not worth taking any chances of killing an innocent man/woman...ever -our system is too flawed and messes up too often to allow people to be put to death
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#10 11Marcel
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Against. Remember the saying: an eye for an eye and the whole world goes blind.

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#11 markop2003
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For if you can truly prove it. Obviously if you have doubt then you keep them on a sort of death row setup until evidence is produced that cures the doubts. At some point you have to draw the line and say that these people aren't worth rehabilitating the same way you take a patient off life support. However at the level of proof required they'd probably be killed be SWAT well before they reached a courtroom.
Against. Cost too much and its not a deterrent. wstfld
Only costs a lot in the current US system. In reality getting the local sheriff to shoot someone is incredibly cheap.
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#12 coolbeans90
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Morally, unopposed. Pragmatically, uncertain of its effectiveness. So, undecided.

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#13 worlock77
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Solidly against. The "eye for an eye" thing dates back to primitave tribes who believed that a cold sore was a sign that their deity was angry with that person. Time to move past that.

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#14 Zyrokin
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[QUOTE="Zyrokin"][QUOTE="x8VXU6"]

So are you for it or against it. Im all for it, there are some sick people in this world you shouldnt be alive (Im sorry but its true) so I feel if they killed someone they should die too, you know an eye for an eye type thing!!!!!

Theokhoth
I believe you lose certain rights when you take them from others. So I am pro-Death Penalty. The accusers must absolutely without a doubt prove it though. No reason to kill an innocent person because you think they did it.

They already lose the right to vote, the right to freedom, the right to bear arms, and the right to privacy. Why do they deserve losing the right to life in addition to it?

Way to quote my whole statement. Let me fix that for you. Ok... Now, they lose the right because they stole another life. Now, I feel intentional murder is more so the reason. And like I said, I think it should be proven with out a doubt. Accidents happen, but if you take a life why do you deserve to live?
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#15 x8VXU6
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the one that cost less.

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killing them would, cuz if there alive our tax money would have to pay for them the rest of there life and that aint cheap. As long as they did it

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#16 Theokhoth
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[QUOTE="markop2003"] Only costs a lot in the current US system. In reality getting the local sheriff to shoot someone is incredibly cheap.

In order to do that would require taking away their right to an appeals process, which, of course, will mean any innocents wrongly convicted will be ****ed.
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#17 chathuranga
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Against. Cost too much and its not a deterrent. wstfld
It only costs too much because of the ridiculous appeals process. I am for the death penalty and I think we should use it more often to punish murderers, rapists, pedophiles, etc.
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#18 markop2003
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[QUOTE="Theokhoth"] They already lose the right to vote, the right to freedom, the right to bear arms, and the right to privacy. Why do they deserve losing the right to life in addition to it?

Does it make sense to pay to store a product in a warehouse even though no one wants it when it could be volatile and hazardous? The obvious answer is to get rid of it so you don't have to pay for it any more and you don't risk accidents.
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#20 Theokhoth
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[QUOTE="TheShadowLord07"]

the one that cost less.

x8VXU6

killing them would, cuz if there alive our tax money would have to pay for them the rest of there life and that aint cheap. As long as they did it

No, killing them costs more due to the appeals process: trials, lawyers, judges, juries, etc, cost more than life in prison.
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For if you can truly prove it. Obviously if you have doubt then you keep them on a sort of death row setup until evidence is produced that cures the doubts. At some point you have to draw the line and say that these people aren't worth rehabilitating the same way you take a patient off life support. However at the level of proof required they'd probably be killed be SWAT well before they reached a courtroom. [QUOTE="wstfld"]Against. Cost too much and its not a deterrent. markop2003
Only costs a lot in the current US system. In reality getting the local sheriff to shoot someone is incredibly cheap.

The thing is, however, if you have some doubt then they shouldn't even be in prison in the first place. Our system isn't meant to punish those who are "probably guilty". It's suppose to punish those who's guilt is established beyond all reasonable doubt.

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#22 x8VXU6
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I guess I should have said if they did do it and they knew what they was doing not if it was a mistake or something like that

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#23 berserker2389
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For it.
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#24 deniiiii21
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For, pop a round and get it done, if someone kills he ought to be killed its expensive keeping this inmate at 40k a year.

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#25 UnknownSniper65
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I am for the death penalty in cases where there is no doubt of the person's guilt. I also think ,in such cases, the death penalty should be administered quickly and there should not be any way to draw out the sentencing through appeals.

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#26 l4dak47
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[QUOTE="rawsavon"]In theory...FOR In practice...Against -not worth taking any chances of killing an innocent man/woman...ever -our system is too flawed and messes up too often to allow people to be put to death

This. Honestly, the only time that I would advocate the death penalty is if the criminal is in a nation that has weak prisons, just to make sure that they don't do it again. Fortunately, I don't need to worry too much about the maxium-security prisons here in the U.S.
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[QUOTE="Zyrokin"][QUOTE="Theokhoth"][QUOTE="Zyrokin"] I believe you lose certain rights when you take them from others. So I am pro-Death Penalty. The accusers must absolutely without a doubt prove it though. No reason to kill an innocent person because you think they did it.

They already lose the right to vote, the right to freedom, the right to bear arms, and the right to privacy. Why do they deserve losing the right to life in addition to it?

Way to quote my whole statement. Let me fix that for you. Ok... Now, they lose the right because they stole another life. Now, I feel intentional murder is more so the reason. And like I said, I think it should be proven with out a doubt. Accidents happen, but if you take a life why do you deserve to live?

The rest of your quote had no relevance to my post. People deserve to live no matter what. For one thing, there's no such thing as "without a doubt;" there's ALWAYS the possibility, no matter how remote, that we have the wrong guy behind bars. Secondly, a punishment should be proportionate to the crime, not equal to it; we do not rape rapists, torture torturers, or set arsonists on fire, and there is no punishment more disproportionate to any crime than death.
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#28 deactivated-5f9e3c6a83e51
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I'm against it in all but the most extreme cases.

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#29 unrealtron
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So are you for it or against it. Im all for it, there are some sick people in this world you shouldnt be alive (Im sorry but its true) so I feel if they killed someone they should die too, you know an eye for an eye type thing!!!!!

x8VXU6

Totally agree

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#30 markop2003
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[QUOTE="Theokhoth"][QUOTE="markop2003"] Only costs a lot in the current US system. In reality getting the local sheriff to shoot someone is incredibly cheap.

In order to do that would require taking away their right to an appeals process, which, of course, will mean any innocents wrongly convicted will be ****ed.

No you just raise the bar for what it takes to be convicted so the appeals are effectively included in the original trial. What i'm talking about is killing the guy who SWAT happened to knock out instead of kill, it's not really questionable whether he's innocent or not. The more questionable cases could stay on the current system.
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#31 Theokhoth
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I am for the death penalty in cases where there is no doubt of the person's guilt. I also think ,in such cases, the death penalty should be administered quickly and there should not be any way to draw out the sentencing through appeals.

UnknownSniper65
So anyone who could possibly be innocent (there's no such thing as "no doubt" of the person's guilt) would have no way of appealing for his life.
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[QUOTE="Theokhoth"][QUOTE="Zyrokin"][QUOTE="Theokhoth"] They already lose the right to vote, the right to freedom, the right to bear arms, and the right to privacy. Why do they deserve losing the right to life in addition to it?

Way to quote my whole statement. Let me fix that for you. Ok... Now, they lose the right because they stole another life. Now, I feel intentional murder is more so the reason. And like I said, I think it should be proven with out a doubt. Accidents happen, but if you take a life why do you deserve to live?

The rest of your quote had no relevance to my post. People deserve to live no matter what. For one thing, there's no such thing as "without a doubt;" there's ALWAYS the possibility, no matter how remote, that we have the wrong guy behind bars. Secondly, a punishment should be proportionate to the crime, not equal to it; we do not rape rapists, torture torturers, or set arsonists on fire, and there is no punishment more disproportionate to any crime than death.

So your for letting those 2 paroled felons that raped and killed the wife and daughter live?
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I am for the death penalty in cases where there is no doubt of the person's guilt. I also think ,in such cases, the death penalty should be administered quickly and there should not be any way to draw out the sentencing through appeals.

UnknownSniper65

Again, presumably there is no doubt period, otherwise there is no conviction. That's the way our system is set up to work. Yet year after year people are released from prison after it having been discovered that they actually were innocent all along.

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#34 testfactor888
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I am for it. I would rather see it done in a Mortal Kombat style though. Get a whole bunch of death row inmates and put them in a fighting tournament. Each fight ends with a fatality of course. This would all have to be televised and put on pay per view or something. You might want to pretend people would not want to see it but honestly alot of people would. The last guy standing is told he can have his freedom back but after the cameras stop rolling they just take him out back and put a bullet in him. The amount of people who would pay to watch that would likely give the government a ton of money
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#35 UnknownSniper65
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[QUOTE="UnknownSniper65"]

I am for the death penalty in cases where there is no doubt of the person's guilt. I also think ,in such cases, the death penalty should be administered quickly and there should not be any way to draw out the sentencing through appeals.

Theokhoth

So anyone who could possibly be innocent (there's no such thing as "no doubt" of the person's guilt) would have no way of appealing for his life.

Yes there is

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[QUOTE="berserker2389"][QUOTE="Theokhoth"][QUOTE="Zyrokin"] Way to quote my whole statement. Let me fix that for you. Ok... Now, they lose the right because they stole another life. Now, I feel intentional murder is more so the reason. And like I said, I think it should be proven with out a doubt. Accidents happen, but if you take a life why do you deserve to live?

The rest of your quote had no relevance to my post. People deserve to live no matter what. For one thing, there's no such thing as "without a doubt;" there's ALWAYS the possibility, no matter how remote, that we have the wrong guy behind bars. Secondly, a punishment should be proportionate to the crime, not equal to it; we do not rape rapists, torture torturers, or set arsonists on fire, and there is no punishment more disproportionate to any crime than death.

So your for letting those 2 paroled felons that raped and killed the wife and daughter live?

I never said anything about parole.
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#37 T_P_O
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Opposed to it in any circumstance whatsoever.

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For if there is unquestionable proof of the person's guilt.

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#39 TheShadowLord07
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[QUOTE="TheShadowLord07"]

the one that cost less.

x8VXU6

killing them would, cuz if there alive our tax money would have to pay for them the rest of there life and that aint cheap. As long as they did it

Im pretty sure it cost more for the government to kill a person.

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#40 bloodling
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For or against? How about neither?

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[QUOTE="Theokhoth"][QUOTE="UnknownSniper65"]

I am for the death penalty in cases where there is no doubt of the person's guilt. I also think ,in such cases, the death penalty should be administered quickly and there should not be any way to draw out the sentencing through appeals.

UnknownSniper65

So anyone who could possibly be innocent (there's no such thing as "no doubt" of the person's guilt) would have no way of appealing for his life.

Yes there is

No there isn't. Every single jury conviction is based on "without reasonable doubt," not "without doubt." This is because juries can be and sometimes are wrong. There is absolutely no such thing as "no doubt" in the legal system.
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#42 Snipes_2
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I guess I'm against it...

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[QUOTE="Theokhoth"][QUOTE="Zyrokin"][QUOTE="Theokhoth"] They already lose the right to vote, the right to freedom, the right to bear arms, and the right to privacy. Why do they deserve losing the right to life in addition to it?

Way to quote my whole statement. Let me fix that for you. Ok... Now, they lose the right because they stole another life. Now, I feel intentional murder is more so the reason. And like I said, I think it should be proven with out a doubt. Accidents happen, but if you take a life why do you deserve to live?

The rest of your quote had no relevance to my post. People deserve to live no matter what. For one thing, there's no such thing as "without a doubt;" there's ALWAYS the possibility, no matter how remote, that we have the wrong guy behind bars. Secondly, a punishment should be proportionate to the crime, not equal to it; we do not rape rapists, torture torturers, or set arsonists on fire, and there is no punishment more disproportionate to any crime than death.

Ok, without a doubt of a reasonable man. There are certain situations that are just plain obvious. Well torture is considered inhumane, along with rape, and setting someone on fire. Death on the other hand, takes them out of this world, and I support doing it in the most painless way possible. Sorry, but if you destroy someone else, you lost your humanity, and the same rules don't apply(except for torture and inhumane acts).
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#44 markop2003
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The thing is, however, if you have some doubt then they shouldn't even be in prison in the first place. Our system isn't meant to punish those who are "probably guilty". It's suppose to punish those who's guilt is established beyond all reasonable doubt.

worlock77
Reasonable doubt in numerical terms means, for example, 98%. That is not 100% guilty, that is probably guilty, it's impossible to prove 100% guilt.
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#45 ghoklebutter
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[QUOTE="rawsavon"]In theory...FOR In practice...Against -not worth taking any chances of killing an innocent man/woman...ever -our system is too flawed and messes up too often to allow people to be put to death

Same here.
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#46 Cheesehead9099
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For in certain cases.

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[QUOTE="Zyrokin"][QUOTE="Theokhoth"][QUOTE="Zyrokin"] Way to quote my whole statement. Let me fix that for you. Ok... Now, they lose the right because they stole another life. Now, I feel intentional murder is more so the reason. And like I said, I think it should be proven with out a doubt. Accidents happen, but if you take a life why do you deserve to live?

The rest of your quote had no relevance to my post. People deserve to live no matter what. For one thing, there's no such thing as "without a doubt;" there's ALWAYS the possibility, no matter how remote, that we have the wrong guy behind bars. Secondly, a punishment should be proportionate to the crime, not equal to it; we do not rape rapists, torture torturers, or set arsonists on fire, and there is no punishment more disproportionate to any crime than death.

Ok, without a doubt of a reasonable man. There are certain situations that are just plain obvious. Well torture is considered inhumane, along with rape, and setting someone on fire. Death on the other hand, takes them out of this world, and I support doing it in the most painless way possible. Sorry, but if you destroy someone else, you lost your humanity, and the same rules don't apply(except for torture and inhumane acts).

That logic is not consistent. If they are not human, they are not entitled to any human rights, and if they are human, then they are entitled to all human rights. Death, which is eternal, is not proportionate to any finite crime, no matter how bad it may be. And reasonable men can be wrong.
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[QUOTE="UnknownSniper65"]

[QUOTE="Theokhoth"] So anyone who could possibly be innocent (there's no such thing as "no doubt" of the person's guilt) would have no way of appealing for his life.Theokhoth

Yes there is

No there isn't. Every single jury conviction is based on "without reasonable doubt," not "without doubt." This is because juries can be and sometimes are wrong. There is absolutely no such thing as "no doubt" in the legal system.

Plenty of people have commited crimes in full view of the public or cameras. In that case there is no doubt in a practical sense that they have commited the crime. Dozens of people saw them do it or they were caught on camera.

If you're going to split hairs on this argument then we have nothing to discuss.

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#49 x8VXU6
Member since 2008 • 3411 Posts

For, pop a round and get it done, if someone kills he ought to be killed its expensive keeping this inmate at 40k a year.

deniiiii21

some ppl dont even make 40k a year

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#50 Theokhoth
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[QUOTE="Theokhoth"][QUOTE="UnknownSniper65"]

Yes there is

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No there isn't. Every single jury conviction is based on "without reasonable doubt," not "without doubt." This is because juries can be and sometimes are wrong. There is absolutely no such thing as "no doubt" in the legal system.

Plenty of people have commited crimes in full view of the public or cameras. In that case there is no doubt in a practical sense that they have commited the crime. Dozens of people saw them do it or they were caught on camera.

If you're going to split hairs on this argument then we have nothing to discuss.

Film can be edited and people can be bribed, brainwashed, misled, or just mistaken.