Debate Central- New Poll(read OP about options)

Waiting eagerly for the debate. Obama might win this debate since he might connect better with the audience than Romney.

I just don't see Obama underperforming again. It could be they are equally good with the crowd, and that's better for the voting public.

I hope someone presses Romney on gay rights just to see him squirm.

I just don't see Obama underperforming again. It could be they are equally good with the crowd, and that's better for the voting public.

jimkabrhel

Will be watching.

I hope someone presses Romney on gay rights just to see him squirm.

Aljosa23

[QUOTE="Aljosa23"]

I hope someone presses Romney on gay rights just to see him squirm.

LJS9502_basic

[QUOTE="Aljosa23"]

I hope someone presses Romney on gay rights just to see him squirm.

LJS9502_basic

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="Aljosa23"]

I hope someone presses Romney on gay rights just to see him squirm.

michaelP4

[QUOTE="Aljosa23"]

I hope someone presses Romney on gay rights just to see him squirm.

LJS9502_basic

Yes, but it's an issue where people are sitting on the fence might swing in one direction if they see compelling arguments on both sides, which is important because the race is fairly close. Independents are a bit more inclined to be pro-gay stuffs, and the Teavangelical base is not quite so, pitting Romney against two key constituencies that he has focused his entire campaign around swinging simultaneously. The real question is whether or not he would come out in support of civil unions on the spot when pressed, claim support of gay rights, and manage to squeeze in a few words about "freedom of religion" and "the sanctity of marriage" all in one breath. He's a hell of a rhetorical contortionist, and could probably swing it in a speech, but with a rival to slam him down with a rebuttal, it would be interesting to see if he walks out of the topic unscathed.

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="Aljosa23"]

I hope someone presses Romney on gay rights just to see him squirm.

coolbeans90

Yes, but it's an issue where people are sitting on the fence might swing in one direction if they see compelling arguments on both sides, which is important because the race is fairly close. Independents are a bit more inclined to be pro-gay stuffs, and the Teavangelical base is not quite so, pitting Romney against two key constituencies that he has focused his entire campaign around swinging simultaneously. The real question is whether or not he would come out in support of civil unions on the spot when pressed. claim support of gay rights, and manage to squeeze in a few words about "freedom of religion" and "the sanctity of marriage" all in one breath. He's a hell of a rhetorical contortionist, and could probably swing it in a speech, but with a rival to slam him down with a rebuttal, it would be interesting to see if he walks out of the topic unscathed.

[QUOTE="michaelP4"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"] I'll be honest with you....most voters are concerned with how a candidate impacts their economic status. Gay rights really isn't a big issue for most people.LJS9502_basic

Only in certain countries would favouring equal rights be considering a "progressive thinking", in many others, it would be a outdated and done issue.

[QUOTE="coolbeans90"]

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"] I'll be honest with you....most voters are concerned with how a candidate impacts their economic status. Gay rights really isn't a big issue for most people.LJS9502_basic

Yes, but it's an issue where people are sitting on the fence might swing in one direction if they see compelling arguments on both sides, which is important because the race is fairly close. Independents are a bit more inclined to be pro-gay stuffs, and the Teavangelical base is not quite so, pitting Romney against two key constituencies that he has focused his entire campaign around swinging simultaneously. The real question is whether or not he would come out in support of civil unions on the spot when pressed. claim support of gay rights, and manage to squeeze in a few words about "freedom of religion" and "the sanctity of marriage" all in one breath. He's a hell of a rhetorical contortionist, and could probably swing it in a speech, but with a rival to slam him down with a rebuttal, it would be interesting to see if he walks out of the topic unscathed.

A percentage point or two can sway the election, and people who are in between the two candidates on whose economics is better, often independents, other views could very well come into play. Both are trying very carefully to placate the concerns of these guys because they are the swing vote. Obviously the economy is key - but I think those voters are more decided as that has been the primary focus of discussion for a very long time.

Yes. Gay rights extends to not just gay people but their friends and families as well. I'm sure it doesn't hurt to spend even a minute for both of them to clarify their positions on gay rights... after all, quite a lot of time is wasted anyway on mere theatrical rhetoric. Just out of curiosity, do you support gay rights?michaelP4

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="coolbeans90"]

Yes, but it's an issue where people are sitting on the fence might swing in one direction if they see compelling arguments on both sides, which is important because the race is fairly close. Independents are a bit more inclined to be pro-gay stuffs, and the Teavangelical base is not quite so, pitting Romney against two key constituencies that he has focused his entire campaign around swinging simultaneously. The real question is whether or not he would come out in support of civil unions on the spot when pressed. claim support of gay rights, and manage to squeeze in a few words about "freedom of religion" and "the sanctity of marriage" all in one breath. He's a hell of a rhetorical contortionist, and could probably swing it in a speech, but with a rival to slam him down with a rebuttal, it would be interesting to see if he walks out of the topic unscathed.

coolbeans90

A percentage point or two can sway the election, and people who are in between the two candidates on whose economics is better, often independents, other views could very well come into play. Both are trying very carefully to placate the concerns of these guys because they are the swing vote. Obviously the economy is key - but I think those voters are more decided as that has been the primary focus of discussion for a very long time.

Will not be watching it. Going to see a movie and will also be writing a paper instead.

[QUOTE="michaelP4"] Deficit, economy, jobs, out sourcing, health care, etc and you think that is a major issue for voters?LJS9502_basic

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[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]Eh. Social issues are more the stuff of feel good forum users. When it comes to voting most people do consider what the politician will do for them. Deep down people are very self oriented. It might be something they'd like in their candidate....depending on their stance...but I don't think it's an issue that will sway the election.LJS9502_basic

A percentage point or two can sway the election, and people who are in between the two candidates on whose economics is better, often independents, other views could very well come into play. Both are trying very carefully to placate the concerns of these guys because they are the swing vote. Obviously the economy is key - but I think those voters are more decided as that has been the primary focus of discussion for a very long time.

If there was a third party with their views, yes. However, third party candidates this round are the Green Party, Libertarian Party, and the Constitution Party - all of which are on the more extreme ends, not the center of the relative spectrum.

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="coolbeans90"]

Yes, but it's an issue where people are sitting on the fence might swing in one direction if they see compelling arguments on both sides, which is important because the race is fairly close. Independents are a bit more inclined to be pro-gay stuffs, and the Teavangelical base is not quite so, pitting Romney against two key constituencies that he has focused his entire campaign around swinging simultaneously. The real question is whether or not he would come out in support of civil unions on the spot when pressed. claim support of gay rights, and manage to squeeze in a few words about "freedom of religion" and "the sanctity of marriage" all in one breath. He's a hell of a rhetorical contortionist, and could probably swing it in a speech, but with a rival to slam him down with a rebuttal, it would be interesting to see if he walks out of the topic unscathed.

coolbeans90

A percentage point or two can sway the election, and people who are in between the two candidates on whose economics is better, often independents, other views could very well come into play. Both are trying very carefully to placate the concerns of these guys because they are the swing vote. Obviously the economy is key - but I think those voters are more decided as that has been the primary focus of discussion for a very long time.

Yeah, to say gay rights is a non-issue in this election is just being naive. It may not be the major issue, but trust me they're people talking about it, and Obama's pro-gay rights stance shifted a few people I know towards him, who likely would have otherwise voted third party.

Wait since when does Romney want to maintain or increase funding to the Pell grant programAbbeten

Wait since when does Romney want to maintain or increase funding to the Pell grant programAbbeten

It gives me a headache when a candidate (or a president) says he's going to create jobs.

There are numerous problems with education that ranges from costs to standards that are never going to be addressed.

Anywhoo, as I'm aware, Pell Grants wouldn't fare well under a Romney/Ryan plan or so I heard.

Voted early, but watching the debate nonetheless.

These people suck I hate this why am I watchingJML897

I'd say neither are winning so far. If I had to choose I'd say Mitt. Obama still seems disinterested.

[QUOTE="JML897"]These people suck I hate this why am I watchingDavesAlt

I hate most of them too and the people I do like don't win :(

I'd say neither are winning so far. If I had to choose I'd say Mitt. Obama still seems disinterested.

brucewayne69

I'd say neither are winning so far. If I had to choose I'd say Mitt. Obama still seems disinterested.

brucewayne69

I agree. Obama has no energy and it's like he's bothered. Not very inspired or inspiring.

But at least he isn't like a deer in headlights again. That was pathetic.

Does Obama ignore all the nuclear and coal plants China is throwing up everywhere when he talks about China's energy policy? Or is he simply unaware of them?