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#451 -Sun_Tzu-
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[QUOTE="tocool340"]Those 4 Americans are practically in enemy territory...El_Zo1212o
Good point. Then why weren't there any marines stationed there watching over the civilians? Especially when they had specifically asked for protection long before the actual attack?

The request was for more security at the US embassy in Tripoli, not the US consulate in Benghazi. And it's doubtful that increased security in Benghazi would've made a difference.
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#452 tocool340
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[QUOTE="El_Zo1212o"][QUOTE="tocool340"]Those 4 Americans are practically in enemy territory...-Sun_Tzu-
Good point. Then why weren't there any marines stationed there watching over the civilians? Especially when they had specifically asked for protection long before the actual attack?

The request was for more security at the US embassy in Tripoli, not the US consulate in Benghazi. And it's doubtful that increased security in Benghazi would've made a difference.

If this is fact, I stand corrected then....

And yeah, I agree. I wonder if America would have been mad if few soldiers died along with the 4 Americans despite the added security. I think I'd rather have 4 dead than more. But that's my opinion...

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#453 DevilMightCry
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[QUOTE="DevilMightCry"][QUOTE="SteveTabernacle"] Factually incorrect, homosexual behavior is found all throughout nature.coolbeans90

Finding a very very small number of examples in terms of percentage does not make it "natural". Also engaging in homesexual/lesbian intercourse does not make someone a homosexual/lesbian.

Go fvck yourself.

Ignore yourself.
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#454 coolbeans90
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Anyways, here is a piece of history. Discuss.

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#455 chessmaster1989
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[QUOTE="coolbeans90"]

[QUOTE="DevilMightCry"] Finding a very very small number of examples in terms of percentage does not make it "natural". Also engaging in homesexual/lesbian intercourse does not make someone a homosexual/lesbian.DevilMightCry

Go fvck yourself.

Ignore yourself.

To be fair, you're a f*cking moron.
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#456 El_Zo1212o
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There was no imminent threat is my guess...tocool340
7 Americans would disagree. Except four of them are dead.

[QUOTE="-Sun_Tzu-"]The request was for more security at the US embassy in Tripoli, not the US consulate in Benghazi. And it's doubtful that increased security in Benghazi would've made a difference. tocool340

If this is fact, I stand corrected then....

And yeah, I agree. I wonder if America would have been mad if few soldiers died along with the 4 Americans despite the added security. I think I'd rather have 4 dead than more. But that's my opinion...

All the same, all of the reports I've read stated the request was for Benghazi, but the guy making the request was in Tripoli. And frankly, I think 15 or 20 marines could have ended the situation, or even given pause to the perpatrators in the first place. And I would also prefer to think that protecting our diplomats is more than a risk vs reward equation.
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#457 -Sun_Tzu-
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[QUOTE="El_Zo1212o"][QUOTE="tocool340"] 7 Americans would disagree. Except four of them are dead.

[QUOTE="-Sun_Tzu-"]The request was for more security at the US embassy in Tripoli, not the US consulate in Benghazi. And it's doubtful that increased security in Benghazi would've made a difference. tocool340

If this is fact, I stand corrected then....

And yeah, I agree. I wonder if America would have been mad if few soldiers died along with the 4 Americans despite the added security. I think I'd rather have 4 dead than more. But that's my opinion...

All the same, all of the reports I've read stated the request was for Benghazi, but the guy making the request was in Tripoli. And frankly, I think 15 or 20 marines could have ended the situation, or even given pause to the perpatrators in the first place. And I would also prefer to think that protecting our diplomats is more than a risk vs reward equation.

The requests were never for marines. And no, the requests were for embassy security in Tripoli.
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#458 coolbeans90
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The requests were never for marines. And no, the requests were for embassy security in Tripoli. -Sun_Tzu-

Iran, Iraq . . .

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#459 tocool340
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[QUOTE="tocool340"]There was no imminent threat is my guess...El_Zo1212o
7 Americans would disagree. Except four of them are dead.

Well, yeah after they were attacked, of course they wouldn't agree. But I still say they should have been well aware of the risk when they went to the embassy too. If you got reason to believe that the place would be attacked, best course of action would be to chill out at a alternative place til Washington decide to authorize more security as requested. But if Sun_Tzu is correct, that particular embassy never made any request for more security so its a moot point...

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Americans die everyday on the U.S soil. Your a cop right? Do I bash you for not preventing every murder that occurs under you or your precincts watch?... This Libya BS is getting on my nerves. Those 4 Americans are practically in enemy territory and your pissed off because they managed to get killed despite their location? Get over it already. Not everything will promptly get to the president in time. And even then, he's not the only one who's authorize to give an okay to beefing up security at the U.S. Consulate. Why not point the finger at those individuals as well?....tocool340

I'm not bashing Obama for not preventing it. I'm bashing him for not being very forthcoming about it.

I would point the finger at whoever was responsible. IF THE PRESIDENT TOLD US WHO IT WAS, which is what me and the rest of the country want to know.

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#461 tocool340
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[QUOTE="tocool340"]Americans die everyday on the U.S soil. Your a cop right? Do I bash you for not preventing every murder that occurs under you or your precincts watch?... This Libya BS is getting on my nerves. Those 4 Americans are practically in enemy territory and your pissed off because they managed to get killed despite their location? Get over it already. Not everything will promptly get to the president in time. And even then, he's not the only one who's authorize to give an okay to beefing up security at the U.S. Consulate. Why not point the finger at those individuals as well?....airshocker

I'm not bashing Obama for not preventing it. I'm bashing him for not being very forthcoming about it.

I would point the finger at whoever was responsible. IF THE PRESIDENT TOLD US WHO IT WAS, which is what me and the rest of the country want to know.

Even if you know, how exactly would it help anyone? What, you going to turn into a vigilante and pay that person a visit to deal your own justice? Plan on busting his head if you catch him walking down the street? What possible benefit do you get out of it?....

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#462 lx_theo
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[QUOTE="tocool340"]Americans die everyday on the U.S soil. Your a cop right? Do I bash you for not preventing every murder that occurs under you or your precincts watch?... This Libya BS is getting on my nerves. Those 4 Americans are practically in enemy territory and your pissed off because they managed to get killed despite their location? Get over it already. Not everything will promptly get to the president in time. And even then, he's not the only one who's authorize to give an okay to beefing up security at the U.S. Consulate. Why not point the finger at those individuals as well?....airshocker

I'm not bashing Obama for not preventing it. I'm bashing him for not being very forthcoming about it.

I would point the finger at whoever was responsible. IF THE PRESIDENT TOLD US WHO IT WAS, which is what me and the rest of the country want to know.

They are never going to say who's fault it was even if they nail down who's fault it was actually's. It was basically blacklist them and make them very much a public enemy. It could very well ruin their life if it goes badly. Its common policy by anyone, really. Expecting Obama to call out whatever official made the mistake is unreasonable.
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#463 El_Zo1212o
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[QUOTE="El_Zo1212o"]And frankly, I think 15 or 20 marines could have ended the situation, or even given pause to the perpatrators in the first place. And I would also prefer to think that protecting our diplomats is more than a risk vs reward equation.-Sun_Tzu-
The requests were never for marines. And no, the requests were for embassy security in Tripoli.

The request was for embassy security people, I know. But considering they were operating in an extremely hostile area with 9/11 coming up, the government should not only have granted the request, but should have sent the meanest sons of b!tches in our military. And have you seen the requests? Because I've looked around and I can't find them. So I go by the news reports which all seem to agree that the request was made from tripoli for benghazi.