Debate: The legalization of marijuana

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#301 LJS9502_basic
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http://www.hightimes.com/ht/legal/content.php?aid=3&bid=340

There you go bud. Knock yourself out.

CleverResponse

Two problems bud....if it isn't linked I don't look. Second, hightimes is not what I'd call unbiased.

I also need tax projections, evaluation of the benefits to society, and again how much is sold per drug dealer vs. other drugs sold per drug dealer.

As to your edit....that doesn't prove your statement. The other drugs are imported. Marijuana can grow here.

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#302 CleverResponse
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I don't mean to insult you or anything, but you're pretty much an idiot when it comes to arguing.

"It's not linked wah wahhhhhhh wahhhhh I'm not clicking. Well I win this arguement because I was too lazy to hear your point of view."

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#303 SouL-Tak3R
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Also made legal because that would cut down on drugs trades and gun trades associated in the corrupt dealers on the streets and underground ...bad people lol. Plus not as bad as cigerettes, its natrual, not as dangerous as alcohol, doesn't cause problems except minor memory loss if you smoke it like everyday for years. and I dont see why not. But really, i dont care. I dont smoke it. so whatever.
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#304 LJS9502_basic
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I don't mean to insult you or anything, but you're pretty much an idiot when it comes to arguing.

"It's not linked wah wahhhhhhh wahhhhh I'm not clicking. Well I win this arguement because I was too lazy to hear your point of view."

CleverResponse

My main point was the site was biased. In addition, I read your edit which didn't provide the proof I asked for...and insulting another person is never going to allow you to win any argument. Zero crediblilty when you can't conduct yourself maturely.

Because it's a high cash crop does NOT mean it's the main drug sold by dealers.:)

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#305 CleverResponse
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Also made legal because that would cut down on drugs trades and gun trades associated in the corrupt dealers on the streets and underground ...bad people lol. Plus not as bad as cigerettes, its natrual, not as dangerous as alcohol, doesn't cause problems except minor memory loss if you smoke it like everyday for years. and I dont see why not. But really, i dont care. I dont smoke it. so whatever.SouL-Tak3R

Look out, LJ might totally own you by dismissing your view because it's not his own.

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#306 LJS9502_basic
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[QUOTE="SouL-Tak3R"]Also made legal because that would cut down on drugs trades and gun trades associated in the corrupt dealers on the streets and underground ...bad people lol. Plus not as bad as cigerettes, its natrual, not as dangerous as alcohol, doesn't cause problems except minor memory loss if you smoke it like everyday for years. and I dont see why not. But really, i dont care. I dont smoke it. so whatever.CleverResponse

Look out, LJ might totally own you by dismissing your view because it's not his own.

I haven't dismissed any views here.... I simply askeda few questions for which you couldn't provide details dude. Your opinion does not equal fact.Bring something more to the table than you think weed is the most popular.

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#307 tazzydnc
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yea MJ is probably safer than alchohol.  legalizing it would benefit the economy and elimineate the violent crimes associated with smuggling and selling it.
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#308 LJS9502_basic
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yea MJ is probably safer than alchohol. legalizing it would benefit the economy and elimineate the violent crimes associated with smuggling and selling it.tazzydnc

How?

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#309 SouL-Tak3R
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[QUOTE="tazzydnc"]yea MJ is probably safer than alchohol. legalizing it would benefit the economy and elimineate the violent crimes associated with smuggling and selling it.LJS9502_basic

How?

Taxes buddy, Taxes.

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#310 LJS9502_basic
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[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]

[QUOTE="tazzydnc"]yea MJ is probably safer than alchohol. legalizing it would benefit the economy and elimineate the violent crimes associated with smuggling and selling it.SouL-Tak3R

How?

Taxes buddy, Taxes.

I was referring to the first part of your sentence...however, fines bring in a lot of money so I couldn't say for sure which would make more money...fines that have to be 100% paid....or taxes which more often than not are not 100% paid.

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#311 deactivated-5f9e3c6a83e51
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[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]

[QUOTE="tazzydnc"]yea MJ is probably safer than alchohol. legalizing it would benefit the economy and elimineate the violent crimes associated with smuggling and selling it.SouL-Tak3R

How?

Taxes buddy, Taxes.

Generally, taxes don'thelp the economy.

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#312 SouL-Tak3R
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[QUOTE="SouL-Tak3R"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]

[QUOTE="tazzydnc"]yea MJ is probably safer than alchohol. legalizing it would benefit the economy and elimineate the violent crimes associated with smuggling and selling it.sonicare

How?

Taxes buddy, Taxes.

Generally, taxes don'thelp the economy.

No but when people buy, that helps the economy.

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[QUOTE="sonicare"][QUOTE="SouL-Tak3R"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]

[QUOTE="tazzydnc"]yea MJ is probably safer than alchohol. legalizing it would benefit the economy and elimineate the violent crimes associated with smuggling and selling it.SouL-Tak3R

How?

Taxes buddy, Taxes.

Generally, taxes don'thelp the economy.

No but when people buy, that helps the economy.

Yes. In general that is true, but it depends on what they are buying. If people are high on drugs then they're less productive and the economy can suffer from less production.

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#314 SouL-Tak3R
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[QUOTE="SouL-Tak3R"][QUOTE="sonicare"][QUOTE="SouL-Tak3R"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]

[QUOTE="tazzydnc"]yea MJ is probably safer than alchohol. legalizing it would benefit the economy and elimineate the violent crimes associated with smuggling and selling it.sonicare

How?

Taxes buddy, Taxes.

Generally, taxes don'thelp the economy.

No but when people buy, that helps the economy.

Yes. In general that is true, but it depends on what they are buying. If people are high on drugs then they're less productive and the economy can suffer from less production.

But why do you say they produce less? I would think they would produce more because a lot of people i'm sure cannot get enough. Look at the cigerette companies. People still buy those like crazy. I would imagine that mj would still do pretty well next to competitors if it were to be made a legal source of trade.

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#315 LJS9502_basic
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But why do you say they produce less? I would think they would produce more because a lot of people i'm sure cannot get enough. Look at the cigerette companies. People still buy those like crazy. I would imagine that mj would still do pretty well next to competitors if it were to be made a legal source of trade.

SouL-Tak3R

If the workforce is high they are less productive is what he's saying.

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#316 Eddie-Vedder
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I´ll smoke it either way, but it would be nice to see the world evolve and get the damn sterotype behind us, who the hell are these politicians to say what I can and can´t do if I´m not interfering with anyone else´s freedom, alcohol makes ppl much more agressive and stupid, weed you just get calm, and want to laugh teh evil! Holland made it legal and it worked out great.
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#317 MagnumPI
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Have enough trouble with people drinking and driving and just being stupid by natural disposition. So it's a bad idea. Whatever. Let them have their weed. On the plus side it would be something to ticket them for and more DUIs toissue.

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#318 LJS9502_basic
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Have enough trouble with people drinking and driving and just being stupid by natural disposition. So it's a bad idea. Whatever. Let them have their weed. On the plus side it would be something to ticket them for and more DUIs toissue.

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That occurs now as well...

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#319 Eddie-Vedder
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Have enough trouble with people drinking and driving and just being stupid by natural disposition. So it's a bad idea. Whatever. Let them have their weed. On the plus side it would be something to ticket them for and more DUIs toissue.

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Have you ever smoked and driven afterwards? When you drink you go really fast for some reason, even I do, that´s why Id on´t do it anymore, but when you smoke driving at 50km/h seems like 300. I granny drive when I smoke joints lol.

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#320 deactivated-5f9e3c6a83e51
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[QUOTE="MagnumPI"]

Have enough trouble with people drinking and driving and just being stupid by natural disposition. So it's a bad idea. Whatever. Let them have their weed. On the plus side it would be something to ticket them for and more DUIs toissue.

Eddie-Vedder

Have you ever smoked and driven afterwards? When you drink you go really fast for some reason, even I do, that´s why Id on´t do it anymore, but when you smoke driving at 50km/h seems like 300. I granny drive when I smoke joints lol.

Impaired judgment is impaired judgement. Certainly some people get more "mellow" after getting high, but others can get paranoid or even psychotic. Operating any vehicle while under the influence is very dangerous and irresponsible.

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#322 nirvana563
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By the same token...there isn'a any logical reason to legalize it.LJS9502_basic


What about get 2 million people of the US prison system, which would help get the prison system back together.
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#323 ajc_176
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Ban alcohol and legalize Marijuana,


How many stoned people do you see starting fights or vandalising stuff? :D they are too stoned to be bothered :P

Problem solved

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#324 thirstychainsaw
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[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"] By the same token...there isn'a any logical reason to legalize it.nirvana563


What about get 2 million people of the US prison system, which would help get the prison system back together.

The US prison system, oh boy thats a whole nother topic all together.

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#325 nirvana563
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Drugs are for losers. Marijuana should be use only of medicinal purposes.

It's a comfort thing and well as legality. Weed smells, makes you paranoid and gives you mental health problems. It also leads to srotnger drugs. If you want a society like that then your stupid.Total-KO



I never heard someone complain about the smell but if they where freaking that they where smelling of it, but for mental health problems and leading to hard drugs, I would like ask what your bases your facts on because I like to know who you know or have done.