Defense of Marriage Act Struck Down as Unconstitutional (5-4)

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alright, this is just like banging my head against a very stupid law.  Guess I'll just report all these comparisons of homosexuals to beastiality and pedophiles and hope the mods can sort his stupid ass out.  Good day

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in 30 years I will be a "stupid ass" for being against pedophilia and bestiality.

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#302 dave123321
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[QUOTE="jimkabrhel"]

[QUOTE="AHUGECAT"]

Homosexuality goes against human nature, just like it would for a cat. How many cats would exist if all were gay?

By the way, a 12 year old can get pregnant, so therefore there are BIGGER arguments for hebephilia than homosexuality. Soon the media will slowly but surely start sexualizing kids (it has already started)

AHUGECAT

"My arugment has fallen apart so I'll just try to go in a different direction, which also doesn't have merit."

Try again.

Um my argument makes perfect sense. If all cats were gay, would they continue to exist? No. Then it's not natural.

You just said that it being natural or unnatural shouldn't come into the discussion on rather or not we allow gay marriage
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#303 AHUGECAT
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[QUOTE="Bane_09"][QUOTE="GD1551"]

You know this how? The vast majority of humans are straight, so when a minority is isn't then obviously something isn't normal.

princeofshapeir

you dont understand abnormal behavior http://www.apa.org/helpcenter/sexual-orientation.aspx

Thank you for providing that link, and it's what will shut this entire argument down.

Is pedophilia a sexual orientation?

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Now he's linking to Narth. He really knows how to pick a credible source.
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#305 Bane_09
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[QUOTE="Bane_09"][QUOTE="GD1551"]

You know this how? The vast majority of humans are straight, so when a minority is isn't then obviously something isn't normal.

princeofshapeir
you dont understand abnormal behavior http://www.apa.org/helpcenter/sexual-orientation.aspx

Thank you for providing that link, and it's what will shut this entire argument down.

Not if he ignores it, which is the most likely outcome
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[QUOTE="princeofshapeir"][QUOTE="Bane_09"] you dont understand abnormal behavior http://www.apa.org/helpcenter/sexual-orientation.aspxAHUGECAT

Thank you for providing that link, and it's what will shut this entire argument down.

Is pedophilia a sexual orientation?

no, read the link moron
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[QUOTE="AHUGECAT"]

[QUOTE="jimkabrhel"]

"My arugment has fallen apart so I'll just try to go in a different direction, which also doesn't have merit."

Try again.

dave123321

Um my argument makes perfect sense. If all cats were gay, would they continue to exist? No. Then it's not natural.

You just said that it being natural or unnatural shouldn't come into the discussion on rather or not we allow gay marriage

I was referring to human nature. As I said, using animals as a blueprint for human behavior is irrational.

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Seems like there are people around who are afriad of catching "teh gayz". Sad.

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[QUOTE="AHUGECAT"]

[QUOTE="jimkabrhel"]

"My arugment has fallen apart so I'll just try to go in a different direction, which also doesn't have merit."

Try again.

dave123321

Um my argument makes perfect sense. If all cats were gay, would they continue to exist? No. Then it's not natural.

You just said that it being natural or unnatural shouldn't come into the discussion on rather or not we allow gay marriage

Hes like a rat backed into a corner
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[QUOTE="princeofshapeir"][QUOTE="Bane_09"] you dont understand abnormal behavior http://www.apa.org/helpcenter/sexual-orientation.aspxAHUGECAT

Thank you for providing that link, and it's what will shut this entire argument down.

Is pedophilia a sexual orientation?

You can read the first section of that article Bane_09 provided to find out.
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[QUOTE="AHUGECAT"]

[QUOTE="princeofshapeir"] Thank you for providing that link, and it's what will shut this entire argument down. Bane_09

Is pedophilia a sexual orientation?

no, read the link moron

Actually the APA is leading the charge into making pedophilia a "sexual orientation" (which has never NOT include pedophilia).

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[QUOTE="dave123321"][QUOTE="AHUGECAT"]

Um my argument makes perfect sense. If all cats were gay, would they continue to exist? No. Then it's not natural.

AHUGECAT

You just said that it being natural or unnatural shouldn't come into the discussion on rather or not we allow gay marriage

I was referring to human nature. As I said, using animals as a blueprint for human behavior is irrational.

And your authority on discussing human nature is?
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[QUOTE="dave123321"][QUOTE="AHUGECAT"]

Um my argument makes perfect sense. If all cats were gay, would they continue to exist? No. Then it's not natural.

AHUGECAT

You just said that it being natural or unnatural shouldn't come into the discussion on rather or not we allow gay marriage

I was referring to human nature. As I said, using animals as a blueprint for human behavior is irrational.

You just seem to be jumping from argument to argument when your points are argued against.
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[QUOTE="AHUGECAT"]

[QUOTE="princeofshapeir"] Thank you for providing that link, and it's what will shut this entire argument down. princeofshapeir

Is pedophilia a sexual orientation?

You can read the first section of that article Bane_09 provided to find out.

Nowhere is pedophilia not mentioned. The APA is leading the charge in normalizing pedophilia btw.

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[QUOTE="lostrib"]

alright, this is just like banging my head against a very stupid law.  Guess I'll just report all these comparisons of homosexuals to beastiality and pedophiles and hope the mods can sort his stupid ass out.  Good day

AHUGECAT

in 30 years I will be a "stupid ass" for being against pedophilia and bestiality.

That's not what i said.  Stupid ass.

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#316 AHUGECAT
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[QUOTE="AHUGECAT"]

[QUOTE="dave123321"] You just said that it being natural or unnatural shouldn't come into the discussion on rather or not we allow gay marriage PannicAtack

I was referring to human nature. As I said, using animals as a blueprint for human behavior is irrational.

And your authority on discussing human nature is?

Not animal nature lmao.

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[QUOTE="AHUGECAT"]

[QUOTE="dave123321"] You just said that it being natural or unnatural shouldn't come into the discussion on rather or not we allow gay marriage dave123321

I was referring to human nature. As I said, using animals as a blueprint for human behavior is irrational.

You just seem to be jumping from argument to argument when your points are argued against.

You should've seen him like a year ago when he and blackregiment were spouting birther bullshit. Textbook circular argument.
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[QUOTE="PannicAtack"][QUOTE="AHUGECAT"]

I was referring to human nature. As I said, using animals as a blueprint for human behavior is irrational.

AHUGECAT

And your authority on discussing human nature is?

Not animal nature lmao.

That isn't an answer. You are unbelievably dense. Makes me pine for Laihendi.
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#319 AHUGECAT
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[QUOTE="dave123321"][QUOTE="AHUGECAT"]

I was referring to human nature. As I said, using animals as a blueprint for human behavior is irrational.

PannicAtack

You just seem to be jumping from argument to argument when your points are argued against.

You should've seen him like a year ago when he and blackregiment were spouting birther bullshit. Textbook circular argument.

You said that homosexuality is OK, I said that animals also commit ficilide and engage in cannibalism. What's your argument against that?

Oh wait, as usual, you don't have one (as you get all your arguments from your professors and the televits)

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[QUOTE="PannicAtack"][QUOTE="dave123321"] You just seem to be jumping from argument to argument when your points are argued against. AHUGECAT

You should've seen him like a year ago when he and blackregiment were spouting birther bullshit. Textbook circular argument.

You said that homosexuality is OK, I said that animals also commit ficilide and engage in cannibalism. What's your argument against that?

Oh wait, as usual, you don't have one (as you get all your arguments from your professors and the televits)

My argument against that? That those two points are completely unrelated. Also, you are delusional.

Nice making assumptions about me, dipshit.

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#321 AHUGECAT
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[QUOTE="AHUGECAT"]

[QUOTE="PannicAtack"]And your authority on discussing human nature is?PannicAtack

Not animal nature lmao.

That isn't an answer. You are unbelievably dense. Makes me pine for Laihendi.

Okay, I will make it easier for you: Sex is used for reproduction. Although humans are one of the few species that can have sex for pleasure, but the main thing is that sex is used for reproduction. A guy cannot reproduce via anal sex with another guy.

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#322 Bane_09
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[QUOTE="Bane_09"][QUOTE="AHUGECAT"]

Is pedophilia a sexual orientation?

AHUGECAT

no, read the link moron

Actually the APA is leading the charge into making pedophilia a "sexual orientation" (which has never NOT include pedophilia).

So, maybe it is? Doesnt make it right as a child cant consent you fool, how many times do people have to tell you that? Nothing you said means anything, the APA does not support pedophilia as you imply. Nice try you snake
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#323 AHUGECAT
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[QUOTE="AHUGECAT"]

[QUOTE="PannicAtack"]You should've seen him like a year ago when he and blackregiment were spouting birther bullshit. Textbook circular argument.PannicAtack

You said that homosexuality is OK, I said that animals also commit ficilide and engage in cannibalism. What's your argument against that?

Oh wait, as usual, you don't have one (as you get all your arguments from your professors and the televits)

My argument against that? That those two points are completely unrelated. Also, you are delusional.

Nice making assumptions about me, dipshit.

How are they unrelated?

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[QUOTE="princeofshapeir"][QUOTE="AHUGECAT"]

Is pedophilia a sexual orientation?

AHUGECAT

You can read the first section of that article Bane_09 provided to find out.

Nowhere is pedophilia not mentioned. The APA is leading the charge in normalizing pedophilia btw.

And that's derived from this extremely credible source: http://narth.com/

Truly brilliant, using articles from an anti-homosexual therapy center that prays the gay away. Why don't you post something credible that actually comes directly from the APA instead of using incredibly biased sources?

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#325 AHUGECAT
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[QUOTE="AHUGECAT"]

[QUOTE="Bane_09"]no, read the link moronBane_09

Actually the APA is leading the charge into making pedophilia a "sexual orientation" (which has never NOT include pedophilia).

So, maybe it is? Doesnt make it right as a child cant consent you fool, how many times do people have to tell you that? Nothing you said means anything, the APA does not support pedophilia as you imply. Nice try you snake

Gays could not consent in most of America until 50 years ago.

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#326 PannicAtack
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[QUOTE="PannicAtack"][QUOTE="AHUGECAT"]

Not animal nature lmao.

AHUGECAT

That isn't an answer. You are unbelievably dense. Makes me pine for Laihendi.

Okay, I will make it easier for you: Sex is used for reproduction. Although humans are one of the few species that can have sex for pleasure, but the main thing is that sex is used for reproduction. A guy cannot reproduce via anal sex with another guy.

So?

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[QUOTE="PannicAtack"][QUOTE="AHUGECAT"]

Not animal nature lmao.

AHUGECAT

That isn't an answer. You are unbelievably dense. Makes me pine for Laihendi.

Okay, I will make it easier for you: Sex is used for reproduction. Although humans are one of the few species that can have sex for pleasure, but the main thing is that sex is used for reproduction. A guy cannot reproduce via anal sex with another guy.

You just contradicted yourself. Sex is used for pleasure, so it is not always used for procreation. 

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[QUOTE="PannicAtack"][QUOTE="AHUGECAT"]

Not animal nature lmao.

AHUGECAT

That isn't an answer. You are unbelievably dense. Makes me pine for Laihendi.

Okay, I will make it easier for you: Sex is used for reproduction. Although humans are one of the few species that can have sex for pleasure, but the main thing is that sex is used for reproduction. A guy cannot reproduce via anal sex with another guy.

Girls get fvcked in te butt all the time, you gonna outlaw that too? Lol
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[QUOTE="AHUGECAT"]

[QUOTE="PannicAtack"] That isn't an answer. You are unbelievably dense. Makes me pine for Laihendi.Bane_09

Okay, I will make it easier for you: Sex is used for reproduction. Although humans are one of the few species that can have sex for pleasure, but the main thing is that sex is used for reproduction. A guy cannot reproduce via anal sex with another guy.

Girls get fvcked in te butt all the time, you gonna outlaw that too? Lol

the best birth control

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#330 AHUGECAT
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[QUOTE="AHUGECAT"]

[QUOTE="PannicAtack"] That isn't an answer. You are unbelievably dense. Makes me pine for Laihendi.PannicAtack

Okay, I will make it easier for you: Sex is used for reproduction. Although humans are one of the few species that can have sex for pleasure, but the main thing is that sex is used for reproduction. A guy cannot reproduce via anal sex with another guy.

So?

Would you say "So?" to a judge/defense/prosecution in a court room? No, because you'd get annihilated.

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[QUOTE="PannicAtack"]

[QUOTE="AHUGECAT"]

You said that homosexuality is OK, I said that animals also commit ficilide and engage in cannibalism. What's your argument against that?

Oh wait, as usual, you don't have one (as you get all your arguments from your professors and the televits)

AHUGECAT

My argument against that? That those two points are completely unrelated. Also, you are delusional.

Nice making assumptions about me, dipshit.

How are they unrelated?

It's a non-sequiter.

"There isn't anything wrong with homosexuality" "But animals eat their young!"

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[QUOTE="AHUGECAT"]

[QUOTE="PannicAtack"] That isn't an answer. You are unbelievably dense. Makes me pine for Laihendi.Bane_09

Okay, I will make it easier for you: Sex is used for reproduction. Although humans are one of the few species that can have sex for pleasure, but the main thing is that sex is used for reproduction. A guy cannot reproduce via anal sex with another guy.

Girls get fvcked in te butt all the time, you gonna outlaw that too? Lol

A guy naturally has feelings for a girl, not another hairy man.

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[QUOTE="Bane_09"][QUOTE="AHUGECAT"]

Actually the APA is leading the charge into making pedophilia a "sexual orientation" (which has never NOT include pedophilia).

AHUGECAT

So, maybe it is? Doesnt make it right as a child cant consent you fool, how many times do people have to tell you that? Nothing you said means anything, the APA does not support pedophilia as you imply. Nice try you snake

Gays could not consent in most of America until 50 years ago.

Theres a big difference between a grown man/woman and a child consenting you sick, sad little man.
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#334 PannicAtack
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[QUOTE="PannicAtack"]

[QUOTE="AHUGECAT"]

Okay, I will make it easier for you: Sex is used for reproduction. Although humans are one of the few species that can have sex for pleasure, but the main thing is that sex is used for reproduction. A guy cannot reproduce via anal sex with another guy.

AHUGECAT

So?

Would you say "So?" to a judge/defense/prosecution in a court room? No, because you'd get annihilated.

That implication puts me at a better position than you, as your position would simply get thrown out without being listened to. And it still stands - Okay. So you say that sex is used for reproduction, and that gays can't reproduce through anal sex. So?
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[QUOTE="Bane_09"][QUOTE="AHUGECAT"]

Okay, I will make it easier for you: Sex is used for reproduction. Although humans are one of the few species that can have sex for pleasure, but the main thing is that sex is used for reproduction. A guy cannot reproduce via anal sex with another guy.

AHUGECAT

Girls get fvcked in te butt all the time, you gonna outlaw that too? Lol

A guy naturally has feelings for a girl, not another hairy man.

Some guys naturally are attracted to other men. Women to women. Naturally.

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#336 PannicAtack
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[QUOTE="Bane_09"][QUOTE="AHUGECAT"]

Okay, I will make it easier for you: Sex is used for reproduction. Although humans are one of the few species that can have sex for pleasure, but the main thing is that sex is used for reproduction. A guy cannot reproduce via anal sex with another guy.

AHUGECAT

Girls get fvcked in te butt all the time, you gonna outlaw that too? Lol

A guy naturally has feelings for a girl, not another hairy man.

Prove it.
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#337 AHUGECAT
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It's a non-sequiter.

"There isn't anything wrong with homosexuality" "But animals eat their young!"

PannicAtack

Lol you didn't say that, you said "Animals also engage in homosexuality, therefore it is natural." I pointed out that filicide and cannibalism is also found in animal behavior.

Now you don't even know what you're talking about!

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[QUOTE="Bane_09"][QUOTE="AHUGECAT"]

Okay, I will make it easier for you: Sex is used for reproduction. Although humans are one of the few species that can have sex for pleasure, but the main thing is that sex is used for reproduction. A guy cannot reproduce via anal sex with another guy.

AHUGECAT

Girls get fvcked in te butt all the time, you gonna outlaw that too? Lol

A guy naturally has feelings for a girl, not another hairy man.

Some guys have feelings for other guys and same for women. Is it really that hard to believe people are different than you?
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#339 AHUGECAT
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[QUOTE="AHUGECAT"]

[QUOTE="Bane_09"] Girls get fvcked in te butt all the time, you gonna outlaw that too? LolPannicAtack

A guy naturally has feelings for a girl, not another hairy man.

Prove it.

Um for reproduction purposes? LOL are you actually saying it's NOT natural for a guy to have feelings for a girl?

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[QUOTE="AHUGECAT"]

[QUOTE="Bane_09"] Girls get fvcked in te butt all the time, you gonna outlaw that too? LolBane_09

A guy naturally has feelings for a girl, not another hairy man.

Some guys have feelings for other guys and same for women. Is it really that hard to believe people are different than you?

Some 45 year old men have feelings for a 13 year old girl. is it really that hard to believe people are different than you?

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#341 PannicAtack
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[QUOTE="PannicAtack"]

It's a non-sequiter.

"There isn't anything wrong with homosexuality" "But animals eat their young!"

AHUGECAT

Lol you didn't say that, you said "Animals also engage in homosexuality, therefore it is natural." I pointed out that filicide and cannibalism is also found in animal behavior.

Now you don't even know what you're talking about!

You are mistaken. I never made an appeal to nature argument. You did, and I simply pointed out that you were factually incorrect. You should probably admit that, it's much more dignified that continuing your logical fallacies.

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#342 deactivated-5b78379493e12
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I like how my posts are completely ignored.

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#343 AHUGECAT
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[QUOTE="AHUGECAT"]

[QUOTE="Bane_09"] So, maybe it is? Doesnt make it right as a child cant consent you fool, how many times do people have to tell you that? Nothing you said means anything, the APA does not support pedophilia as you imply. Nice try you snakeBane_09

Gays could not consent in most of America until 50 years ago.

Theres a big difference between a grown man/woman and a child consenting you sick, sad little man.

The same people who were for gay rights are now aiming for pedophile rights.

With their friends in the media they will have you fighting for pedophile rights within 30 years.

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#344 AHUGECAT
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I like how my posts are completely ignored.

jimkabrhel

What's your argument?

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#345 PannicAtack
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[QUOTE="PannicAtack"][QUOTE="AHUGECAT"]

A guy naturally has feelings for a girl, not another hairy man.

AHUGECAT

Prove it.

Um for reproduction purposes? LOL are you actually saying it's NOT natural for a guy to have feelings for a girl?

No, I'm asking you to prove that it's not natural for a guy to have feelings for another guy.

Are you really this dense, or are you simply a troll?

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#346 princeofshapeir
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This guy posts articles taken from the most prolific conversion therapy center for homosexuals and expects us to take him seriously. "NARTH's leaders disagree with the global scientific consensus, the holding of the world's major mental health organizations, and scientific research into the topic which show that homosexuality is not a disorder."
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#347 deactivated-5b78379493e12
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[QUOTE="jimkabrhel"]

I like how my posts are completely ignored.

AHUGECAT

What's your argument?

Read the posts yourself. TL;DR version is that you have no leg to stand on, and you keep changing arguments when hit with a logical wall.

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#348 AHUGECAT
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[QUOTE="PannicAtack"]

It's a non-sequiter.

"There isn't anything wrong with homosexuality" "But animals eat their young!"

PannicAtack

Lol you didn't say that, you said "Animals also engage in homosexuality, therefore it is natural." I pointed out that filicide and cannibalism is also found in animal behavior.

Now you don't even know what you're talking about!

You are mistaken. I never made an appeal to nature argument. You did, and I simply pointed out that you were factually incorrect. You should probably admit that, it's much more dignified that continuing your logical fallacies.

No, you said animals behave in homosexuality, therefore it is natural.I never said anything about animal nature, nothing. It is as irrelevant as tree nature or rock nature.

Then you actually have the guts to say your argument was "There isn't anything wrong with homosexuality" and my reply to that was "But animals eat their young!"

Unbelievable

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#349 Bane_09
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[QUOTE="Bane_09"][QUOTE="AHUGECAT"]

A guy naturally has feelings for a girl, not another hairy man.

AHUGECAT

Some guys have feelings for other guys and same for women. Is it really that hard to believe people are different than you?

Some 45 year old men have feelings for a 13 year old girl. is it really that hard to believe people are different than you?

Two grown adults in a relationship that love each does not equal a 43 uear old man forcing himself on a 13 year old girl. Dude you seriously stupid as sh!t if you think tht argument holds any kind of weight
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#350 dave123321
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[QUOTE="PannicAtack"]

It's a non-sequiter.

"There isn't anything wrong with homosexuality" "But animals eat their young!"

AHUGECAT

Lol you didn't say that, you said "Animals also engage in homosexuality, therefore it is natural." I pointed out that filicide and cannibalism is also found in animal behavior.

Now you don't even know what you're talking about!

Again, you are the one who brought up the appeal to nature argument. And now you seem to have jumped to some human nature thing after refuting your first point