Disturbing Images from Iran you Don't see everyday!

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#1 rimnet00
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http://www.lucasgray.com/video/peacetrain.html

Watch the whole thing and then think about your position on attacking these people.

Think.

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#2 Uxal
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Demonizing supposed enemies has been going on for as long as war has existed. Dropping bombs and killing thousands of innocents cant be done with a totally empathic population.

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#3 SaintLeonidas
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I have no problem with the people or country, it is the government I have a problem with.
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So.....what does this have to do with attacking Iran? We shouldn't attack them because they have nice buildings and people. Yes....because that's the only thing that determines whether I should attack a country or not. You could of made a video like this for Nazi Germany......

Not that I'm saying we should invade Iran, but saying we shouldn't because of this is well.....naive.

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#5 omfg_its_dally
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I opened this topic expecting to see something disgusting, I was pleasently surprised. I love Cat Stevens.
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#6 Video_Game_King
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Some look fake. Like the guy with the accordian and the unibrow.
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#7 -Twilight-
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Holy ****! They're civilians in Iran like us!?
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#8 dreamdude
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Some look fake. Like the guy with the accordian and the unibrow.Video_Game_King

The dude looked awesome though.

Wish I could play the accordian...:(

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#9 thusaha
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I have no problem with the people or country, it is the government I have a problem with. SaintLeonidas
Same here.
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#10 -Jiggles-
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I never knew it snows in Iran.
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#11 Dethshoot
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I never knew it snows in Iran.-Jiggles-

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#12 monkeytoes61
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So they have pretty scenery, that suddenly makes the people nice? This is quite possibly the most stupid thing I have ever heard. Way to go TC :roll:.
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#13 stedtfeld
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Well I mean this is nice and everything but it doesn't really do much.
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#14 monkeytoes61
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[QUOTE="Video_Game_King"]Some look fake. Like the guy with the accordian and the unibrow.dreamdude

The dude looked awesome though.

Wish I could play the accordian...:(

I have an accordian, I am ok at playing it. Italian heritage, go figure.
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Looks like a nice place. Too bad Bush is an idiot.
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#16 carrot-cake
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I never knew it snows in Iran.-Jiggles-

Me either, and it looks quite nice in the winter time.
I really don't know why the Bush administrations and Mcain want to go and attack Iran aswell...There is seriously no benefit from doing so besides Iran not being able to posses WMDs....Last time America went into a country accusing them of having WMDs, they found NOTHING.
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#17 hokies1313
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I've never had a problem with the Iranian people. Their government however is quite another issue.
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Looks like a nice place. Too bad Bush is an idiot.Kikouken
Some people will use any excuse to say they don't like Bush, when most of them know absolutly nothing about the subject matter (hint: I'm talking about you).
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All is hear is Bush Bush Bush. Did anyone forget Hillary Clinton's little rant about how she would "obliterate" Iran?
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#20 JCblueside
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I never knew it snows in Iran.-Jiggles-

...at least you learned something new.

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#21 JCblueside
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http://www.lucasgray.com/video/peacetrain.html

Watch the whole thing and then think about your position on attacking these people.

Think.

rimnet00

But it isnt the Iranian Civis that has problems, its their leaders and government.

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#22 middito
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So they have pretty scenery, that suddenly makes the people nice? This is quite possibly the most stupid thing I have ever heard. Way to go TC :roll:.monkeytoes61

they may be different from us culturally and morally, but they're human. They laugh and love just like us, they have the right to live just as much as you or I. Imagine their beautiful country, invaded, annexed and plundered. it's senseless bloodshed if the only problem is their government.

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#23 fidosim
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It's a pretty country, populated mostly by joe schmoes like us. But that doesn't make their leadership better or their president any less of a dangerous buffoon.
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#24 camreeno360
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Whoever said we'd kill harmless civilians? You're saying if we attacked Iran, that would be implying we'd be purposely killing everything that moves, including it's poeple?
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#25 ImaPirate0202
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Yes, and the man leading that country thinks the holocaust was fake and we should wipe out the Jews.
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#26 Cube_of_MooN
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Whoever said we should attack them because of their people (civilains)?
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#27 blackacidevil96
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All is hear is Bush Bush Bush. Did anyone forget Hillary Clinton's little rant about how she would "obliterate" Iran?
monkeytoes61

bush is the president. hillary just slept with one. and i HIGHLY doubt she will make it to office

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#28 bman784
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It's too bad that their government is too stubborn to stop with the bravado, and it's also too bad that there has been so much government propaganda vilifying Iran. It's a bad situation on both sides.
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#29 ItalStallion777
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umm i'm not sure what your point is here. yes iran has many modern, beautiful places. what does this have to do with iran's government/military though? if we attack it would be a aerial assault on military targets and their nuclear plants, not innocent civilians. maybe you need to do the thinking...
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[QUOTE="Kikouken"]Looks like a nice place. Too bad Bush is an idiot.monkeytoes61
Some people will use any excuse to say they don't like Bush, when most of them know absolutly nothing about the subject matter (hint: I'm talking about you).

Good for you, and I'm still convinced hes an idiot.

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umm i'm not sure what your point is here. yes iran has many modern, beautiful places. what does this have to do with iran's government/military though? if we attack it would be a aerial assault on military targets and their nuclear plants, not innocent civilians. maybe you need to do the thinking...ItalStallion777

So there is going to be absolutely no damage to ANY type of civilian structure? Obviously there would be because the Iranian army would want to put up a fight, and in doing so when the US would want to take Tehran, it would probably become a warzone, thus probably destroying quite a bit of it.
Its not like only military targets are destroyed, artillery and such arent 100% accurate...
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[QUOTE="ItalStallion777"]umm i'm not sure what your point is here. yes iran has many modern, beautiful places. what does this have to do with iran's government/military though? if we attack it would be a aerial assault on military targets and their nuclear plants, not innocent civilians. maybe you need to do the thinking...carrot-cake

So there is going to be absolutely no damage to ANY type of civilian structure? Obviously there would be because the Iranian army would want to put up a fight, and in doing so when the US would want to take Tehran, it would probably become a warzone, thus probably destroying quite a bit of it.
Its not like only military targets are destroyed, artillery and such arent 100% accurate...

the point is that the tc used pictures of average civilians as a reason not to attack when the issue lies within the iranian government, not their people. civilian casualties happen in war but in no way would we target them and with current technology they would be few and far between. and who said anything about taking tehran? that would require a ground invasion, something the US would not do. aerial bombings would likely be the only form of attack on iran, other than covert ops within the country.

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#33 CheeseGuardian
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you know.... the extremists groups kill eachother... then take pictures... then send it to their media... who then make sure it reaches the US liberals... right?
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you know.... the extremists groups kill eachother... then take pictures... then send it to their media... who then make sure it reaches the US liberals... right?CheeseGuardian
Of course all of Iran's citizens are a bunch of blood thirsty extremists. They're just taking time off from killing babies and kittens to act normal and trick those silly liberals into thinking they're human. Those fools! :evil: How do they not see? (/sarcasm if it wasn't apparent enough)
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[QUOTE="-Jiggles-"]I never knew it snows in Iran.carrot-cake

Me either, and it looks quite nice in the winter time.
I really don't know why the Bush administrations and Mcain want to go and attack Iran aswell...There is seriously no benefit from doing so besides Iran not being able to posses WMDs....Last time America went into a country accusing them of having WMDs, they found NOTHING.

Iran's technoligy is far behind to create WMDs. They simply dont have the money,technology or facilities that can handle making such a large scale of WMDs yet keep it so enclosed from the public =/

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[QUOTE="CheeseGuardian"]you know.... the extremists groups kill eachother... then take pictures... then send it to their media... who then make sure it reaches the US liberals... right?bman784
Of course all of Iran's citizens are a bunch of blood thirsty extremists. They're just taking time off from killing babies and kittens to act normal and trick those silly liberals into thinking they're human. Those fools! :evil: How do they not see? (/sarcasm if it wasn't apparent enough)

we must crush those blood thirsty pigs and the sand castles they live in! :twisted:

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#37 Ilived
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Yes, and the man leading that country thinks the holocaust was fake and we should wipe out the Jews.ImaPirate0202

Yeah and that's enough of a reason for western nations to bully other countries that are trying to become just a little bit powerful and economically stable.

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#38 RabidChocobo1
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zomg, theres like, noarmal people in iran? Who knew? i thought they were liek all evil and terrorists and stuff.
/sarcasm
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[QUOTE="ImaPirate0202"]Yes, and the man leading that country thinks the holocaust was fake and we should wipe out the Jews.Ilived

Yeah and that's enough of a reason for western nations to bully other countries that are trying to become just a little bit powerful and economically stable.

They hate us. Why would we want to let them become more powerful?

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Man i was born in Tehran, Iran

came to the U.S. at 9 years old, parents both Iranina, i visited Iran actually this summer. The people are incredible

Yes the people HHHHAATTTEEE the government, but i could never see my country attacked. All the family i have there, my cousin, what if they die.

Russia doesnt like the U.S. government, does that mean they can attack the U.S.?

U.S. have 10,000 nucleur weapons, so who is the terrorist here?

But i love the U.S., its much better than Iran, but the people in the U.S. are mostly, not all ignorant

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[QUOTE="Ilived"]

[QUOTE="ImaPirate0202"]Yes, and the man leading that country thinks the holocaust was fake and we should wipe out the Jews.fidosim

Yeah and that's enough of a reason for western nations to bully other countries that are trying to become just a little bit powerful and economically stable.

They hate us. Why would we want to let them become more powerful?

LMAO, my people love the U.S.

what are you talking about?

also he never said the holocaust never happened, he said the NUMBERS ARE MIS LEADING!!!!!!!

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[QUOTE="fidosim"][QUOTE="Ilived"]

[QUOTE="ImaPirate0202"]Yes, and the man leading that country thinks the holocaust was fake and we should wipe out the Jews.snoopeymaster

Yeah and that's enough of a reason for western nations to bully other countries that are trying to become just a little bit powerful and economically stable.

They hate us. Why would we want to let them become more powerful?

LMAO, my people love the U.S.

what are you talking about?

also he never said the holocaust never happened, he said the NUMBERS ARE MIS LEADING!!!!!!!

I'm saying the country's leadership is very anti-west.

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[QUOTE="snoopeymaster"][QUOTE="fidosim"][QUOTE="Ilived"]

[QUOTE="ImaPirate0202"]Yes, and the man leading that country thinks the holocaust was fake and we should wipe out the Jews.fidosim

Yeah and that's enough of a reason for western nations to bully other countries that are trying to become just a little bit powerful and economically stable.

They hate us. Why would we want to let them become more powerful?

LMAO, my people love the U.S.

what are you talking about?

also he never said the holocaust never happened, he said the NUMBERS ARE MIS LEADING!!!!!!!

I'm saying the country's leadership is very anti-west.

OK BUSH is very anti communist, KOREA AND RUSSIA MUST ATTACK THE U.S. AND KILL UNTOLD MILLIONS

makes a lot of sense now doesnt it?

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#44 fidosim
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[QUOTE="fidosim"][QUOTE="snoopeymaster"][QUOTE="fidosim"][QUOTE="Ilived"]

[QUOTE="ImaPirate0202"]Yes, and the man leading that country thinks the holocaust was fake and we should wipe out the Jews.snoopeymaster

Yeah and that's enough of a reason for western nations to bully other countries that are trying to become just a little bit powerful and economically stable.

They hate us. Why would we want to let them become more powerful?

LMAO, my people love the U.S.

what are you talking about?

also he never said the holocaust never happened, he said the NUMBERS ARE MIS LEADING!!!!!!!

I'm saying the country's leadership is very anti-west.

OK BUSH is very anti communist, KOREA AND RUSSIA MUST ATTACK THE U.S. AND KILL UNTOLD MILLIONS

makes a lot of sense now doesnt it?

If Korea and Russia were stronger, they would be more aggressive toward the US. And Russia has been transitioning to the free market for almost 20 years now. The Iranian president says Israel does not have the right to exist. We should take that very seriously. Wars have always been terrible for the common people, and diplomacy is always the favored route, But not when that translates into idleness and appeasement in the face of a very serious threat to the western world.

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[QUOTE="snoopeymaster"][QUOTE="fidosim"][QUOTE="snoopeymaster"][QUOTE="fidosim"][QUOTE="Ilived"]

[QUOTE="ImaPirate0202"]Yes, and the man leading that country thinks the holocaust was fake and we should wipe out the Jews.fidosim

Yeah and that's enough of a reason for western nations to bully other countries that are trying to become just a little bit powerful and economically stable.

They hate us. Why would we want to let them become more powerful?

LMAO, my people love the U.S.

what are you talking about?

also he never said the holocaust never happened, he said the NUMBERS ARE MIS LEADING!!!!!!!

I'm saying the country's leadership is very anti-west.

OK BUSH is very anti communist, KOREA AND RUSSIA MUST ATTACK THE U.S. AND KILL UNTOLD MILLIONS

makes a lot of sense now doesnt it?

If Korea and Russia were stronger, they would be more aggressive toward the US. And Russia has been transitioning to the free market for almost 20 years now. The Iranian president says Israel does not have the right to exist. We should take that very seriously. Wars have always been terrible for the common people, and diplomacy is always the favored route, But not when that translates into idleness and appeasement in the face of a very serious threat to the western world.

yah the people hate him

last time i was there, people were having a protest throwing rocks at his car, i was there it was funny

look our people dont like him.

And in some sense Isreal doesnt have the right to exist, it took the land of palestanians, isreal has no right

please go visit palestain one day, I WILL PROMISE YOU, YOU WILL BECOME A FREEDOM FIGHTER(terrorist) yourself

just live there for one week, in ghaza, and tell me what you think

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#46 mikeg0788
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Some look fake. Like the guy with the accordian and the unibrow.Video_Game_King

Its simple flash photography. Doesn't look fake to me.

Thanks for the vid TC. Gives you a good look into a culture continually misrepresented here in the states.

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[QUOTE="fidosim"][QUOTE="snoopeymaster"][QUOTE="fidosim"][QUOTE="snoopeymaster"][QUOTE="fidosim"][QUOTE="Ilived"]

[QUOTE="ImaPirate0202"]Yes, and the man leading that country thinks the holocaust was fake and we should wipe out the Jews.snoopeymaster

Yeah and that's enough of a reason for western nations to bully other countries that are trying to become just a little bit powerful and economically stable.

They hate us. Why would we want to let them become more powerful?

LMAO, my people love the U.S.

what are you talking about?

also he never said the holocaust never happened, he said the NUMBERS ARE MIS LEADING!!!!!!!

I'm saying the country's leadership is very anti-west.

OK BUSH is very anti communist, KOREA AND RUSSIA MUST ATTACK THE U.S. AND KILL UNTOLD MILLIONS

makes a lot of sense now doesnt it?

If Korea and Russia were stronger, they would be more aggressive toward the US. And Russia has been transitioning to the free market for almost 20 years now. The Iranian president says Israel does not have the right to exist. We should take that very seriously. Wars have always been terrible for the common people, and diplomacy is always the favored route, But not when that translates into idleness and appeasement in the face of a very serious threat to the western world.

yah the people hate him

last time i was there, people were having a protest throwing rocks at his car, i was there it was funny

look our people dont like him.

And in some sense Isreal doesnt have the right to exist, it took the land of palestanians, isreal has no right

please go visit palestain one day, I WILL PROMISE YOU, YOU WILL BECOME A FREEDOM FIGHTER(terrorist) yourself

just live there for one week, in ghaza, and tell me what you think

It's unfortunate that Palestinians had to be uprooted, but they are generally well accepted and even romanticised in the Islamic world among extremeists, whereas Israel is not. And I would never live in Gaza.

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[QUOTE="monkeytoes61"]So they have pretty scenery, that suddenly makes the people nice? This is quite possibly the most stupid thing I have ever heard. Way to go TC :roll:.middito

they may be different from us culturally and morally, but they're human. They laugh and love just like us, they have the right to live just as much as you or I. Imagine their beautiful country, invaded, annexed and plundered. it's senseless bloodshed if the only problem is their government.

So, they're passively holding thier country hostage and that makes action against them wrong? Terrorists don't look at the people they kill as mothers and volunteers and elders, they see them as enemies.

I'm not saying we should bomb Iran into the ground and purge it with salt, but if we have to fight them, we aren't going to be killing boxes of kittens and babies in cute outfits.

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#49 xid32
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[QUOTE="snoopeymaster"][QUOTE="fidosim"][QUOTE="Ilived"]

[QUOTE="ImaPirate0202"]Yes, and the man leading that country thinks the holocaust was fake and we should wipe out the Jews.fidosim

Yeah and that's enough of a reason for western nations to bully other countries that are trying to become just a little bit powerful and economically stable.

They hate us. Why would we want to let them become more powerful?

LMAO, my people love the U.S.

what are you talking about?

also he never said the holocaust never happened, he said the NUMBERS ARE MIS LEADING!!!!!!!

I'm saying the country's leadership is very anti-west.

And whats your country's leadership like?

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#50 snoopeymaster
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[QUOTE="middito"]

[QUOTE="monkeytoes61"]So they have pretty scenery, that suddenly makes the people nice? This is quite possibly the most stupid thing I have ever heard. Way to go TC :roll:.SpidersRMe

they may be different from us culturally and morally, but they're human. They laugh and love just like us, they have the right to live just as much as you or I. Imagine their beautiful country, invaded, annexed and plundered. it's senseless bloodshed if the only problem is their government.

So, they're passively holding thier country hostage and that makes action against them wrong? Terrorists don't look at the people they kill as mothers and volunteers and elders, they see them as enemies.

I'm not saying we should bomb Iran into the ground and purge it with salt, but if we have to fight them, we aren't going to be killing boxes of kittens and babies in cute outfits.

Terrorist killed 20,000 iraqi citizens during the whole war, INNOCENT PEOPLE

the United States has killed 500,000 INOCCENT IRAQI CIVILAINS.

now who is the terrorist?